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The future of this forum
« on: July 11, 2018, 03:23:20 AM »
Dear all

My apologies for not posting updates or explanations. Usual excuses - busy with work, family, other projects. But mainly, a bit ashamed I stuffed up the server transfer.

I realise the forum its not working as it should. Some people can't access, nobody can register, and many other issues. Either the forum software or the database didn't transfer fully. I'm not sure which. I fiddled with some parameters and settings, patched a few patches, and used a lot of duct tape, but still some problems persist. I'm human. I got discouraged. I abandoned you. Shame on me. But I simply don't know how to fix it.

But I do have a cunning plan. Currently this forum runs on Simple Machines Forum version 2.0.15. The next version will be 2.1.0, and is currently in a beta 3 stage. When it is a release version, I can completely overhaul the software to the new version. Along with that, there is usually a database update tool which upgrades the database to the new software. I am hoping that will give us a fresh start (while keeping all the data preserved) and get things running smoothly again.  ETA for 2.1.0 unknown.

If that fails, we have 2 options:
1. Pay somebody who knows more about these things than I do to try to fix it. The paying part is easy, the finding somebody part is the tricky bit.
2. Put this forum into retirement, or read-only mode, and start afresh with a new one. I had to do this once before. It would be a last-resort option.

 
cheers from winter in Canberra
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Re: The future of this forum
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2018, 03:31:39 AM »
Dear all

My apologies for not posting updates or explanations. Usual excuses - busy with work, family, other projects. But mainly, a bit ashamed I stuffed up the server transfer.

I realise the forum its not working as it should. Some people can't access, nobody can register, and many other issues. Either the forum software or the database didn't transfer fully. I'm not sure which. I fiddled with some parameters and settings, patched a few patches, and used a lot of duct tape, but still some problems persist. I'm human. I got discouraged. I abandoned you. Shame on me. But I simply don't know how to fix it.

But I do have a cunning plan. Currently this forum runs on Simple Machines Forum version 2.0.15. The next version will be 2.1.0, and is currently in a beta 3 stage. When it is a release version, I can completely overhaul the software to the new version. Along with that, there is usually a database update tool which upgrades the database to the new software. I am hoping that will give us a fresh start (while keeping all the data preserved) and get things running smoothly again.  ETA for 2.1.0 unknown.

If that fails, we have 2 options:
1. Pay somebody who knows more about these things than I do to try to fix it. The paying part is easy, the finding somebody part is the tricky bit.
2. Put this forum into retirement, or read-only mode, and start afresh with a new one. I had to do this once before. It would be a last-resort option.

 
cheers from winter in Canberra
Rob

Rob,
Such a pleasure hearing from you. Actually, I think most of us were more concerned about you than we were the Forum.

Other than the bit about not letting in new members, which sort of has us in a stranglehold, the rest of it seems to be something we have managed to live with. There has also been some discussion about finding someone to help you fix it, so now we know you aren't rotting in some Outback sinkhole, bold adventurer that you are, maybe someone will follow up with ideas about helping find a who...

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Re: The future of this forum
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2018, 03:47:45 AM »
Winter in Canberra, why does it seem so inviting?

Pleased almost beyond endurance to hear from you and to know that you're well, Rob.
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Re: The future of this forum
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2018, 04:10:52 AM »
Winter in Canberra, why does it seem so inviting?

Pleased almost beyond endurance to hear from you and to know that you're well, Rob.

Amen!   0:)
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Re: The future of this forum
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2018, 05:14:17 AM »
Other than the bit about not letting in new members, which sort of has us in a stranglehold, the rest of it seems to be something we have managed to live with.
Worth pointing out that according to forum stats, June 2018 was the fewest new posts written since May 2016, and there is a chance that our current month may become the lowest-posted month in New GMG history. (September 2015 is the competition.) June 2018 saw the fewest new topics created in New GMG history, and July is on pace to be slightly lower. However, overall page views haven't been affected to the same degree - people are still reading the forum, but participation is nearing a historic low, perhaps because no new members have been able to register since April 1 exactly.

(Rob, is it any sort of clue that new member registration worked on March 31 but ceased on April 1?)

I will ask around if anyone I know has experience about this.

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Re: The future of this forum
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2018, 07:13:33 AM »
Hi Rob - glad to see you posting again and happy that you are fine - sorry about the forum issues - hoping for good news in the near future!  Dave :)

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Re: The future of this forum
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2018, 07:32:32 AM »
Hi Rob,
Good to hear something from Canberra. That´s already good news!
Fingers crossed that the 2.1.0 option is gonna work.
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Re: The future of this forum
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2018, 08:08:33 AM »
I am so glad that you are healthy and well. Honestly, you've relieved my mind on that score.

We all make mistakes and we all understand that you do this out of love. SO you made a mistake - big deal. Mistakes are fixable, though I admit I am unable to help you on that score. Still, I will ask around to see if there is anyone who can help.

Chin up. You've done a wonderful job over the years. Don't let the immediate challenge overwhelm or discourage you. We're all on your side - we've always been so.
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Re: The future of this forum
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2018, 12:05:38 PM »
I've talked to a couple of friends in IT.

One has offered to help. He has run SMF before and works in IT and thinks he may be able to sort things if he can get internal access. Please feel free to PM me and I can set up the introduction.

Another did not offer to help but did give me the following comments:

"it's using two NS - ns1.gasbag.net and ns2.gasbag.net. I'm 90% sure that the problem is one of the NS has incomplete records."
"don't think it's the board access that's needed. it's access to gasbag.net
the easy way to test it is www.whatsmydns.net
just check the A record for www.good-music-guide.com and good-music-guide.com - when it's broken, its because the record is just missing for half the NS in the country"

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Re: The future of this forum
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2018, 06:39:58 PM »
If its any consolation Talk Classical is completely down again.
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Re: The future of this forum
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2018, 12:23:54 AM »
For me, it's GMG, or it's nowhere  8)
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Re: The future of this forum
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2018, 05:17:08 AM »
Winter in Canberra, why does it seem so inviting?

The last couple of mornings it's been anything but. Brrrr.

Though we do get exquisite blue skies in the afternoon as compensation.
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Re: The future of this forum
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2018, 06:05:28 AM »
Put a sweater on and wait a few days  8)
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Re: The future of this forum
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2018, 06:50:31 AM »
Dear all

My apologies for not posting updates or explanations. Usual excuses - busy with work, family, other projects. But mainly, a bit ashamed I stuffed up the server transfer.

I realise the forum its not working as it should. Some people can't access, nobody can register, and many other issues. Either the forum software or the database didn't transfer fully. I'm not sure which. I fiddled with some parameters and settings, patched a few patches, and used a lot of duct tape, but still some problems persist. I'm human. I got discouraged. I abandoned you. Shame on me. But I simply don't know how to fix it.

But I do have a cunning plan. Currently this forum runs on Simple Machines Forum version 2.0.15. The next version will be 2.1.0, and is currently in a beta 3 stage. When it is a release version, I can completely overhaul the software to the new version. Along with that, there is usually a database update tool which upgrades the database to the new software. I am hoping that will give us a fresh start (while keeping all the data preserved) and get things running smoothly again.  ETA for 2.1.0 unknown.

If that fails, we have 2 options:
1. Pay somebody who knows more about these things than I do to try to fix it. The paying part is easy, the finding somebody part is the tricky bit.
2. Put this forum into retirement, or read-only mode, and start afresh with a new one. I had to do this once before. It would be a last-resort option.

 
cheers from winter in Canberra
Rob

Thanks, Rob! Sorry this has turned into such a headache, and adding my public appreciation for all that you do.

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Re: The future of this forum
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2018, 09:20:40 AM »
For me, it's GMG, or it's nowhere  8)

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All the technical talk flies 35000 feet above my head, up there with jetliners  :). Whatever the outcome, thanks for all you’ve done Rob.  ;)

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Re: The future of this forum
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2018, 11:41:14 AM »
Rob is fine. That's all I care for, honestly. I am relieved.
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« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2018, 02:03:17 PM »
Rob is fine. That's all I care for, honestly. I am relieved.


So am I. I think all of us are.
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Re: The future of this forum
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2018, 12:34:45 PM »


But I do have a cunning plan. Currently this forum runs on Simple Machines Forum version 2.0.15. The next version will be 2.1.0, and is currently in a beta 3 stage. When it is a release version, I can completely overhaul the software to the new version. Along with that, there is usually a database update tool which upgrades the database to the new software. I am hoping that will give us a fresh start (while keeping all the data preserved) and get things running smoothly again.  ETA for 2.1.0 unknown.

 

This can only work if the forum doesn’t die before the new release - ie enough people can access it who are willing to keep it a lively melting pot of ideas. Those forum satatistics that Brian quoted are sobering.
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« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2018, 12:41:55 PM »
GMG will not die.
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Re: The future of this forum
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2018, 12:51:10 PM »
Worth pointing out that according to forum stats, June 2018 was the fewest new posts written since May 2016, and there is a chance that our current month may become the lowest-posted month in New GMG history. (September 2015 is the competition.) June 2018 saw the fewest new topics created in New GMG history, and July is on pace to be slightly lower. However, overall page views haven't been affected to the same degree - people are still reading the forum, but participation is nearing a historic low, perhaps because no new members have been able to register since April 1 exactly.

(Rob, is it any sort of clue that new member registration worked on March 31 but ceased on April 1?)

I will ask around if anyone I know has experience about this.
And if you subtract the posts in the Trump thread from that count?
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