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Offline North Star

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Re: Your 5 favorite musical forms
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2019, 11:00:52 AM »
String Quartets

Janáček No. 2
Beethoven Op. 131
Schubert D. 887
Bartók No. 5
Dutilleux



Sonatas for piano & violin

Prokofiev no. 1
Brahms no. 1
Enescu no. 3
Ravel no. 2
Janáček



Concertos

Sibelius Violin Concerto
Ravel Piano Concerto
Berg Violin Concerto
Mozart Piano Concerto no. 24 in c minor K. 491
Martinů Double Concerto H. 271 for 2 string orchestras, piano & timpani




Piano Sonatas

Beethoven Op. 111
Schubert D. 960
Liszt B minor
Chopin no. 3
Schumann no. 1



Non-sonata solo piano

Ravel Gaspard de la nuit
Janáček In the mist
Liszt Troisième années de pelerinage S. 163
Godowsky Passacaglia
Debussy Préludes
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Re: Your 5 favorite musical forms
« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2019, 10:14:03 AM »
Piano Sonatas

Mozart - KV 310
Beethoven - Pathetique
Schubert - D 960
Chopin - Op. 58
Medtner -Night Wind

Piano Music

Mozart - Variations on "Salve tu domine"
Schubert - Moments Musicaux D 780
Chopin - Etudes Op. 10
Schumann - Kinderszenen
Tchaikovsky - The Seasons

Piano Trios

Haydn - Hob XV:28
Mozart - KV 254
Beethoven - Archduke
Schubert - Notturno D 897
Brahms / Chopin - Op. 8

Serenades

Mozart - Posthorn
Brahms - Op. 11
Dvorak - Op. 22
Tchaikovsky - Op. 48
Fuchs - Op. 21

Lieder / Ballads / Art Songs

Schubert - Die Sterne
Schumann - Im wunderschonen Monat Mai
Loewe - Fridericus Rex
Faure - Le papillon et la fleur
Satie - Je te veux

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Re: Your 5 favorite musical forms
« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2019, 03:35:37 PM »
Serenades

Mozart - Posthorn
Brahms - Op. 11
Dvorak - Op. 22
Tchaikovsky - Op. 48
Fuchs - Op. 21

Lieder / Ballads / Art Songs

Schubert - Die Sterne
Schumann - Im wunderschonen Monat Mai
Loewe - Fridericus Rex
Faure - Le papillon et la fleur
Satie - Je te veux

Unusual and interesting musical forms. This is one reason why I find these threads alluring and fun. You always see something different and contrasting with your choices, and you always learn from others.

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Re: Your 5 favorite musical forms
« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2019, 09:28:09 PM »
Really interesting lists!  Plenty of homework for me to do

My choices for a few forms (not static, of course... all are subject to considerable change over time)

5 Piano Concerto:

Grieg A minor
Bartok no. 2
Mozart no. 20
Rachmaninoff no. 2
Liszt no. 1

5 Symphonies:
Beethoven 5
Shostakovich 1
Schubert 9 (Great C Major)
Dvorak 8
Brahms 2

5 Tone Poems (only 5?? I adore Tone poems) :
Prometheus (Scriabin)
Prélude à l'après-midi d'un faune (Debussy)
A Midsummer Night's Dream (Mendelssohn)
Death and Transfiguration (R. Strauss)
Romeo and Juliet (Tchaikovsky)

Ballet Music/incidental Opera music (ok, an admittedly arbitrary category) :

Daphnis et Chloe (Ravel)
Tristan und Isolde (Wagner)
The Firebird (Stravinsky)
Il Barbiere de Siviglia (Rossini)
The Nutcracker (Tchaikovsky --- I know, I know... your tone deaf neighbor likes it so therefore we must rage against it... whatever, I find it delightful and ingenious in its suite form)

Piano Sonata:

Schubert no 20
Schubert no 21
Prokofiev no 8
Liszt B Minor
Chopin no 2

Other long form solo piano works:

Iberia (Albeniz)
Variations on a Theme of Corelli (Rachmaninoff)
Gaspard de la nuit (Ravel)
Nocturnes (Chopin)
Preludes (Debussy)

None of these is strict... there's dozens of pieces I could happily substitute and quite a few of my favorite composers neglected ... fun, but difficult topic


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Re: 5 favourite musical forms
« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2019, 09:35:30 AM »
Lists for today - one work per composer:

Piano Concerti:

Beethoven 4 (with Medtner's cadenzas)
Mozart 20 (with Alkan's cadenzas)
Scriabin
Medtner 1
Brahms 1
Tchaikovsky 2
Ravel in D for the left hand
Korngold in C-sharp for the left hand
Dvořák
Henselt
Hummel in A minor (op.85)
Tovey
R. Strauss Burleske
Busoni
Schumann op.92 - or op.134
Skalkottas 2
Scharwenka 4
Rachmaninov 4
Prokofiev 2
Liszt 2
Foulds Dynamic Triptych


Violin Concerti

Beethoven
Brahms
Schumann
Elgar
Dvořák
Sibelius


Violin Sonatas

Beethoven 9
Brahms 1
Alkan Grand Duo Concertant
Elgar
Medtner 2

Symphonies

Beethoven 3
Brahms 1 - or 2 - or 4
Bruckner 9 (with finale)
Debussy La mer
Messiaen Turangalîla-Symphonie
Schmidt 2 - or 1
Mahler 10 - or 8 - or Das Lied von der Erde
Mozart 38
Nielsen 4
Berlioz Symphonie fantastique
Korngold Sinfonietta
Schreker Kammersymphonie
Schubert 8 - or 9
Schumann 2
Shostakovich 10
Sibelius 7 - or Kullervo
Vaughan Williams 1
Elgar 2
Dvořák 8
Liszt Dante-Symphonie


Piano Sonatas

Beethoven op.110
Brahms 3
Schumann 2
Schubert D.960
Liszt B minor
Alkan Grande Sonate "Les quatre âges"
Janáček "1.X.1905"
Medtner op.25/2 "Night Wind"
Scriabin 4
Chopin 3






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« Reply #25 on: July 21, 2019, 09:58:38 AM »
Overtures!

Beethoven "Die Weihe des Hauses" - or Leonore 2
Wagner Lohengrin - or Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg - or Tristan und Isolde - or Die Walküre
Mozart Die Zauberflöte - or Le nozze di Figaro - or Die Entführung aus dem Serail
Mendelssohn "Meeresstille und glückliche Fahrt"
R. Strauss Festliches Präludium

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Re: Your 5 favorite musical forms
« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2019, 01:41:22 AM »
I have a question about the musical forms that have been mentioned so far--how many of them are musical forms?

Seems to me that many of them are categories not forms, several are categories of instrumentation.

I stumbled across this idea when I was considering offering some pieces that were sui generis as my favorite pieces tend to be their own forms as well. But one of those was an octet, and according to this thread, an octet is a form. But "octet" denotes the number of players, not a form. Same with quartets or trios or duets and so forth.

There are forms. Theme and variations. Sonata allegro. Rondo. Ternary form (which a fair number of scherzos use). But that doesn't seem to be what this thread has elicited at all.

Quartet is not a form, however, but a designation of the number of players. The forms that those four people play could be anything.

Sure, many of the categories mentioned so far, like piano concerto, do have a fair number of items that follow similar structures. But that's just tradition. Doesn't mean a piano concerto is a form. And certainly doesn't mean a piano concerto is a different form from a violin concerto. And a piano sonata is a sonata played by a piano, not a different form from a sonata played by a cello.

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Re: Your 5 favorite musical forms
« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2019, 05:10:42 PM »
I have a question about the musical forms that have been mentioned so far--how many of them are musical forms?

Seems to me that many of them are categories not forms, several are categories of instrumentation.

I stumbled across this idea when I was considering offering some pieces that were sui generis as my favorite pieces tend to be their own forms as well. But one of those was an octet, and according to this thread, an octet is a form. But "octet" denotes the number of players, not a form. Same with quartets or trios or duets and so forth.

There are forms. Theme and variations. Sonata allegro. Rondo. Ternary form (which a fair number of scherzos use). But that doesn't seem to be what this thread has elicited at all.

Quartet is not a form, however, but a designation of the number of players. The forms that those four people play could be anything.

Sure, many of the categories mentioned so far, like piano concerto, do have a fair number of items that follow similar structures. But that's just tradition. Doesn't mean a piano concerto is a form. And certainly doesn't mean a piano concerto is a different form from a violin concerto. And a piano sonata is a sonata played by a piano, not a different form from a sonata played by a cello.

Thanks for the enlightening comment. Since I'm not a musician or anything like that but a mere aficionado listener, I wasn't clear about the differences between those terms, so the main idea comes to be kinds of musical compositions. Nevertheless, I found this on Wikipedia that kind of agrees with my criterion, at least about Piano Trio:

E.g. Piano Trio: «... It is one of the most common forms found in classical chamber music...»