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Kullervo

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Composers whose legacy will grow
« on: August 26, 2007, 05:05:25 AM »
What composers of today will people be talking about in 100 years? Is there anyone you feel that has created art that will last well after their lifetime?

I nominate Per Nørgård as someone whose legacy will only grow as time wears on. Nørgård's music posesses a depth of expression that hasn't been seen since the beginning of the 20th century. The balance he strikes between chaos and order reflects to me a musical language influenced by an ever-optimistic worldview, and seems to be very relevant to our modern times. Sergiu Celibidache himself said of Nørgård, "Only the mind of a new time in the new millennium will be able to understand the scope of Nørgård's music." I'm inclined to agree.
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Re: Composers whose legacy will grow
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2007, 06:16:36 AM »
I agree completely with Norgard.

I also nominate Einojuhani Rautavaara.

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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2007, 08:29:23 AM »
Another vote for Rautavaara.
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Re: Composers whose legacy will grow
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2007, 08:47:53 AM »
i also agree with Norgard.  :)
as for other composer.... hm, i think the only minimalist composers whose legacy will grow is John Adams. After that, others: Saariaho, Lindberg, Penderecki, Ligeti, to name a few.... and probably Rautavaara, though i haven't heard much of his stuff

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Re: Composers whose legacy will grow
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2007, 08:54:43 AM »
I like Dr. Karl.

greg

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Re: Composers whose legacy will grow
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2007, 08:58:43 AM »
I like Dr. Karl.
me too!
i've seen the future............

and good things are in store for Mr.Henning  8)

greg

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Re: Composers whose legacy will grow
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2007, 09:00:40 AM »
oh yeah, not to mention that Schoenberg will become a household name in 100 years, alongside Mozart, Beethoven, Bach, and Tchaikovsky......

it's a process that developed which is hard to explain but..... eventually pop music realized that it all sounded the same and couldn't make up anything new, so it looked back to Schoenberg and pop music became atonal  0:) 0:) 0:)

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Re: Composers whose legacy will grow
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2007, 09:12:04 AM »
oh yeah, not to mention that Schoenberg will become a household name in 100 years, alongside Mozart, Beethoven, Bach, and Tchaikovsky......

it's a process that developed which is hard to explain but..... eventually pop music realized that it all sounded the same and couldn't make up anything new, so it looked back to Schoenberg and pop music became atonal  0:) 0:) 0:)





I agree here. Also, I realize that Schnittke isn't necessarily "today", but I feel that his Viola Concerto, late Symphonies, and String Quartets will be very highly regarded in the future.

greg

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Re: Composers whose legacy will grow
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2007, 09:13:34 AM »
and in the future, there will be old ladies who are disappointed if "their" Schnittke isn't played

Kullervo

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Re: Composers whose legacy will grow
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2007, 09:25:33 AM »
and in the future, there will be old ladies who are disappointed if "their" Schnittke isn't played

Schnittke becomes salon music? Salon music makes a comeback? Will we have another fin de siècle period? ;D

greg

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Re: Composers whose legacy will grow
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2007, 09:38:52 AM »
Schnittke becomes salon music? Salon music makes a comeback? Will we have another fin de siècle period? ;D
it's a lot more complex than you will ever imagine  :o

Kullervo

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Re: Composers whose legacy will grow
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2007, 11:16:20 AM »
All right, back on topic now.  $:)

greg

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Re: Composers whose legacy will grow
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2007, 11:52:05 AM »
All right, back on topic now.  $:)
Ferneyhough?..........

Kullervo

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Re: Composers whose legacy will grow
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2007, 12:01:40 PM »
Ferneyhough?..........

Okay, why do you think so?

greg

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Re: Composers whose legacy will grow
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2007, 12:02:30 PM »
Okay, why do you think so?
i don't know, i just took a wild guess, is it right?

longears

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Re: Composers whose legacy will grow
« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2007, 12:22:11 PM »
Steve Reich & John Adams.

Kullervo

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Re: Composers whose legacy will grow
« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2007, 12:22:53 PM »
i don't know, i just took a wild guess, is it right?

Don't be an ass.

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Re: Composers whose legacy will grow
« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2007, 01:23:23 PM »
Amongst the recently (last 20 years) deceased, Ligeti and Lutoslawski are I think likely to become mainstream, as I think will some Feldman.

Composers whose profile may rise: Ustvolskaya, Scelsi and Nono, all very distinctive personalities who pushed musical limits.

I don't like making judgement calls on living composers, so I won't. ;)
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Re: Composers whose legacy will grow
« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2007, 01:36:42 PM »
Composers whose profile may rise: Ustvolskaya, Scelsi and Nono, all very distinctive personalities who pushed musical limits.

I don't know... they seem too ascetic to really be acknowledged by more than a devoted few. I myself find Ustvolskaya painful to listen to, but that says more about me than about her.  :)


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Re: Composers whose legacy will grow
« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2007, 01:42:17 PM »
I don't know... they seem too ascetic to really be acknowledged by more than a devoted few. I myself find Ustvolskaya painful to listen to, but that says more about me than about her.  :)


I wouldn't expect any to become mainstream, but they have pretty much no profile right now (at least compared to the Boulezes and Stockhausens of the world) and I don't think that'll remain the case.
"I don't at all mind actively disliking a piece of contemporary music, but in order to feel happy about it I must consciously understand why I dislike it. Otherwise it remains in my mind as unfinished business."
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