Quiz: Mystery scores

Started by Sean, August 27, 2007, 06:49:47 AM

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lukeottevanger

But bear in mind that's only the genre, it doesn't answer the question of the composer of 284. It does complete the Schreker one, though...

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: lukeottevanger on June 04, 2008, 05:41:19 AM
Ja

Schreker wrote a Chamber Symphony in 1916 (which I have not heard; actually I know none of his music). John Adams also wrote one, and the presence of a synthesizer, as well as the heavy presence otherwise of Adams here of late, lead me to think it could be by our second President.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

lukeottevanger

Yes it is - I think I may have hinted that it was by the same composer as the adjacent 283, didn't I?

Those pealing horns recall the end of Schoenberg op 9 to my ears, at any rate, as if Adams wants to cap this crazy, cartoon-influenced score with a little reminder of his forbears. He emphasizes the way this piece makes  what is effectively a union of Schoenberg and Carl Stalling in his notes at the front of the score.

lukeottevanger


(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: lukeottevanger on June 04, 2008, 05:53:48 AM
Only four left now!

Before we get to the next round. I'll have to listen to that Adams tonight; I think it's in the Earbox set but I haven't heard that one yet. Of course, if you misread the clue and your mind goes off on the wrong direction, then you get totally confused.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

lukeottevanger

So how was it?

Can't believe we're stalled on these last four - all by major composers.

lukeottevanger

Well, I suppose I'll need to give more clues, but I'll do it bit by bit.

276 and 277 are by the same composer - I thought that (and more beside...) was clear from my previous clue.  My new clue is the beginning of the first of the pieces of which 277 is the second and last. Ought to make it easy.

lukeottevanger

#2768
[In reply to Johan's first Brahms guess, now deleted]

No, you don't, but that's thinking along the right lines.

J.Z. Herrenberg

#2769
I removed my suggestion, because I knew it wasn't right. Brahms - String Quintet No. 1?
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

lukeottevanger

Well, you are right and wrong. This obviously isn't a piece for string quintet, is it! But at the same time, this is essentially the same music as forms the slow movement of the F major quintet op 88.

Well done for picking up on its Brahmsian qualities so quickly!

BTW - all four of that set of scores are therefore by Brahms. Sforzando spotted that the first two were Brahms immediately, but didn't follow through to these two - despite my hint at this being a Maciek-like set (as with The Pole's all-Szymanowsky sets of scores, for instance)

J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: lukeottevanger on June 07, 2008, 06:25:50 AM
Well, you are right and wrong. This obviously isn't a piece for string quintet, is it! But at the same time, this is essentially the same music as forms the slow movement of the F major quintet op 88.

Well done for picking up on its Brahmsian qualities so quickly!

BTW - all four of that set of scores are therefore by Brahms. Sforzando spotted that the first two were Brahms immediately, but didn't follow through to these two - despite my hint at this being a Maciek-like set (as with The Pole's all-Szymanowsky sets of scores, for instance)

Yes, it's obvious this isn't a string quintet, and it isn't in the same key as that slow movement either, but I thought 'perhaps it's some simplified piano reduction'... Those two mystery pages are from movements with variations, late Brahms, piano pieces I don't yet know...
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

lukeottevanger

Quote from: Jezetha on June 07, 2008, 06:30:54 AM
Those two mystery pages are from movements with variations, late Brahms, piano pieces I don't yet know...

No, not variations - they don't share that with the other two Brahms scores. Not late either, even though op 88 draws on the one I just posted.

J.Z. Herrenberg

#2773
Sarabande, WoO.5 no.1.

Out of the Gavotte in A minor for piano, WoO.3 no.2 and this Sarabande, parts of an early Suite, Brahms built the slow movement of his String Quintet op. 88.
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

lukeottevanger

Yes. So strictly speaking, the mystery score itself is Sarabande no 2

And the other piece. Pretty similar in origin... or put another way, if the one you identified looks like a Sarabande, what does the remaining one look like?


J.Z. Herrenberg

#2775
WoO 4, Gigue No. 2 in B minor
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

lukeottevanger

 :)

Two left. Clues later, if they are really necessary.

lukeottevanger

#2777
Tell you what - here are two incredibly easy ones. Think of them as a couple of free gifts, first come first served.  ;D They're just to push up the total number of scores to 600, leaving on a nice round number at the end of this second big session of the quiz.

LO 291, 292

Mark G. Simon

If 291 isn't Fratres, it's got to be something else by Pärt.

lukeottevanger

If it wasn't it would but it is so it isn't.  ;D