Quiz: Mystery scores

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lukeottevanger

Quote from: Greta on June 12, 2008, 11:11:14 AM
#7 - And why wouldn't that look like Grainger...?  ;)



Well, it seems I am wrong and it is Grainger, but FWIW my reasons for thinking not include: print style doesn't match any of my other Grainger scores (though they are all piano music) and has an American look which I haven't seen on his music before; and there are no convincingly extreme 'Graingerisms' which one would expect at such a dramatic conclusion - 'slow off' is pretty Grainger-y, but not to the extent that I can't see someone else using it; I'd expect at least a 'louden lots' somewhere round here!  ;D

lukeottevanger

Quote from: Maciek on June 12, 2008, 11:14:40 AM
You know, it had just dawned on me that this had to be the Czajkowski score you mentioned, and you had to come and ruin it all by revealing it before time! >:(

::)

:)

Yes, sorry 'bout the Chikeoffskee

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: lukeottevanger on June 12, 2008, 12:25:41 PM
Yes, sorry 'bout the Chikeoffskee

I might have gotten it eventually. I really have heard it, but it's the kind of piece that goes in one ear and out the other . . . .  :D
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

lukeottevanger

Quote from: Sforzando on June 12, 2008, 01:41:28 PM
I might have gotten it eventually. I really have heard it, but it's the kind of piece that goes in one ear and out the other . . . .  :D

Not if the first time you heard it was Gilels.  :o

Greta

Luke is very perceptive! It is an American critical edition of that score. It was so big I could only get one page which didn't have so much "Grainger-speak" going on! Any idea what piece/mvmt?  :)

Chrone

Mystery7 is Grainger, Lincolnshire Posy.

Chrone

Specifically, 5th movement, "Lord Melbourne"

lukeottevanger

I get the slightest hint that things are rather stuck. So here are some more clues to mine, though following Sforzando's practice, this time the clues aren't numbered.

One is a bit of a state. Not a state such as a funk, however, no....

One, very difficult but nearly easy, is in fact relatively so.  Belgian, so interesting clues are difficult to find  ;D ;D >:D >:D , though he died two days before Debussy.

One is an arrangement, by a composer with mental difficulties who tried to drown himself.

One is by the composer arranged

One is Shakespearean; it requires some heavenly music (and perhaps it gets it)

One is by a composer whose surname shares a monosyllable with the arranger, and three more syllables with a rampant horse.

(poco) Sforzando

#2928
Quote from: lukeottevanger on June 15, 2008, 11:47:39 AM
I get the slightest hint that things are rather stuck. So here are some more clues to mine, though following Sforzando's practice, this time the clues aren't numbered.

One is a bit of a state. Not a state such as a funk, however, no....

One, very difficult but nearly easy, is in fact relatively so.  Belgian, so interesting clues are difficult to find  ;D ;D >:D >:D , though he died two days before Debussy.
- Théophile Ysaÿe. Théophile who?

One is an arrangement, by a composer with mental difficulties who tried to drown himself.
- Tchaikovsky arranged the Prize Song?

One is by the composer arranged
- Is that barless piano piece by Wagner?

One is Shakespearean; it requires some heavenly music (and perhaps it gets it)
- I'm wondering if 297 is the Ariel music from Egon Wellesz's Prospero's Spells. I must check with my CD. If so, I'd love to get a score to this work.

One is by a composer whose surname shares a monosyllable with the arranger, and three more syllables with a rampant horse.
- Too equine for me.

"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

lukeottevanger

Quote from: Sforzando on June 15, 2008, 12:33:55 PM
- Théophile Ysaÿe. Théophile who?

;D Yes, younger brother of the more famous one, but no mean composer himself.

Quote from: Sforzando on June 15, 2008, 12:33:55 PM
Tchaikovsky arranged the Prize Song

Did he? Not here he didn't...

Quote from: Sforzando on June 15, 2008, 12:33:55 PM
- Is that barless piano piece by Wagner?

Yes, it is.

Quote from: Sforzando on June 15, 2008, 12:33:55 PM
- I'm wondering if 297 is the Ariel music from Egon Wellesz's Prospero's Spells. I must check with my CD. If so, I'd love to get a score to this work.

No, it's not.

(poco) Sforzando

#2930
Quote from: lukeottevanger on June 15, 2008, 12:51:24 PM

Is Sibelius's Tempest here?

Mental difficulties - drown himself - did Schumann arrange the Prize Song?

Wagner wrote an f# minor piano fantasy in 1831.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: Sforzando on June 15, 2008, 01:09:41 PM
Is Sibelius's Tempest here?

Mental difficulties - drown himself - did Schumann arrange the Prize Song?

Impossible. Schumann was dead before the Prize Song was composed.
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

lukeottevanger

But we know he had music dictated to him by angels.... 0:)


All these composers who tried to drown themselves.... >:D

Not Sibelius's Tempest either (you've got the right play, obviously)

The Wagner F# minor Fantasy is correct. An odd work...

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: Jezetha on June 15, 2008, 01:13:52 PM
Impossible. Schumann was dead before the Prize Song was composed.

Yes, that does create a problem.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

lukeottevanger

Maybe Wagner appropriated it from Schumann  :o

J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: Sforzando on June 15, 2008, 01:24:11 PM
Yes, that does create a problem.

;D

Quote from: lukeottevanger on June 15, 2008, 01:20:56 PM
But we know he had music dictated to him by angels.... 0:)

The solution.  ;D
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: lukeottevanger on June 15, 2008, 01:26:16 PM
Maybe Wagner appropriated it from Schumann  :o

That F minor orchestral piece must be the start of Tchaikovsky's The Tempest, op. 18. Will check my CDs, I don't think I have that score.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: lukeottevanger on June 15, 2008, 01:26:16 PM
Maybe Wagner appropriated it from Schumann  :o

Is that a hint?! (A handbag!)
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

lukeottevanger

#2938
No, I'm just being mischievous. It's not Schumann, or Tchaikovsky. Another who attempted drowning.

Quote from: Sforzando on June 15, 2008, 12:33:55 PM
- Too equine for me.

It's an Italian rampant horse if that helps.

lukeottevanger

Quote from: Sforzando on June 15, 2008, 01:27:13 PM
That F minor orchestral piece must be the start of Tchaikovsky's The Tempest, op. 18. Will check my CDs, I don't think I have that score.

Yes! And that's the last Tchaikovsky one, you'll be pleased to hear. The atmospheric string figuration you see continues for quite some time - the sea/storm, obviously.