Quiz: Mystery scores

Started by Sean, August 27, 2007, 06:49:47 AM

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The most obvious ones for me right now:

310 Bloch Macbeth
350 Orff Carmina Burana
347 Saint-Saens Organ Symphony
353 Bizet Symphony
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

lukeottevanger

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Quote from: Sforzando on July 13, 2008, 08:14:13 AM
The most obvious ones for me right now:

310 Bloch Macbeth
350 Orff Carmina Burana
347 Saint-Saens Organ Symphony
353 Bizet Symphony

Correct except 310 - I didn't say this was from an opera called Macbeth, I said its composer had written such an opera. Yes, it is Bloch, however.

I was hoping 347 might fool people into thinking it was a piano concerto....  ;D ;D >:D >:D  >:( >:( >:(

So - one is Carmina Burana! As I said, some 'popular classics' here, of the 'Teresa' type. At least one more remaining, possibly more depending on your classifications of such things.

Mark G. Simon

I'm going to guess that 352 is the next to last page of Tchaikovsky's Capriccio Italian.

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: Mark G. Simon on July 13, 2008, 10:22:20 AM
I'm going to guess that 352 is the next to last page of Tchaikovsky's Capriccio Italian.

I think you're right. 360 is from the ballet music to Verdi's Aida, Act 2.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

(poco) Sforzando

305 - if this is piano music, the most likely guess is Berlioz. But what? I wonder if it's from one of those more obscure works like Lelio. Kind of a wild guess at this point.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

lukeottevanger

Mark's right on the Tchaikovsky, and Sforz is right on the Verdi. He's also correct that 305 is Berlioz, but it isn't from Lelio.

greg

Quote from: lukeottevanger on July 13, 2008, 06:10:18 AM

34 - palindromic. Who does that sort of thing....? I has a piece by him a ling time ago, which was also partly palindromic; my sample showed the middle point of the palindrome. That score was guessed by someone from the same country as this composer. And he won't let us forget it....
gee, could this be Berg?

(or if not, Webern?)



lukeottevanger

No, and no. Berg may be music's most famous palindromist (palindromedary?), but this guy was even more obsessed by this and similar methods of construction. He used to live quite near to me when I was a little boy, but I don't claim to have had a huge influence on him  ;D ;D ;D ;D :P :P

Come to think of it, a 'palindromedary' would be this, wouldn't it....


J.Z. Herrenberg

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# 318 is Chausson, Poème, op. 25 for violin and orchestra.

# 323 is Peter Maxwell Davies, "The Lighthouse"
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

greg

Quote from: lukeottevanger on July 13, 2008, 12:49:54 PM
No, and no. Berg may be music's most famous palindromist (palindromedary?), but this guy was even more obsessed by this and similar methods of construction. He used to live quite near to me when I was a little boy, but I don't claim to have had a huge influence on him  ;D ;D ;D ;D :P :P
ummm...... Ronald McDonald?

greg

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here's one, i was following along while listening, so i decided hey why not.......



(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: GGGGRRREEG on July 13, 2008, 01:39:59 PM
here's one, i was following along while listening, so i decided hey why not.......

That's from the first movement to one of the Haydn London symphonies, 99 if I recall correctly.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

greg

Quote from: Sforzando on July 13, 2008, 01:48:52 PM
That's from the first movement to one of the Haydn London symphonies, 99 if I recall correctly.
Man, you're good!
The very first symphony i started listening to (along with Schubert's 8th) and got into.

lukeottevanger

Quote from: Jezetha on July 13, 2008, 01:18:27 PM
# 318 is Chausson, Poème, op. 25 for violin and orchestra.

# 323 is Peter Maxwell Davies, "The Lighthouse"


Both correct - anyone else admire this opera as I do?

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Quote from: lukeottevanger on July 13, 2008, 01:52:21 PM
Both correct - anyone else admire this opera as I do?

Don't know it. I believe your Bloch could be the Concerto Grosso No.1, for String Orchestra with Piano Obbligato.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

(poco) Sforzando

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Quote from: lukeottevanger on July 13, 2008, 12:27:12 PM
Mark's right on the Tchaikovsky, and Sforz is right on the Verdi. He's also correct that 305 is Berlioz, but it isn't from Lelio.

Didn't really think it was, but too lazy to verify. At least my guess told me I had the composer right. Berlioz wrote almost nothing for solo piano, so unless this is an arrangement, it could be the one solo piano piece in Groves's work list, an Album Leaf from 1844.

The resemblance of part of this piece to "He shall feed his flock" from Messiah must be coincidental (I hope).
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

Guido

LO349 is Tavener's Protecting Veil. Must give that another listen soon!
Geologist.

The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away

Chrone

LO 359 is Ultimos Ritos by John Tavener. (the quotation of the basso ostinato from the Crucifixus from Bach's B-minor Mass at the end was a big clue).

lukeottevanger

These are all correct. I'll give Chrone the Tavener, although the score I have, technically, isn't that piece but is Coplas. This went on to become the 5th movement of Ultimos Ritos, so Chrone is nevertheless right.

Sforzando, the Berlioz piece does contain a direct quotation, but it isn't of Handel, it's of a Neapolitan folktune also found in a sonata of Scarlatti's, though Berlioz's treatment of it is more extensive.

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: lukeottevanger on July 13, 2008, 07:06:25 PM
These are all correct. I'll give Chrone the Tavener, although the score I have, technically, isn't that piece but is Coplas. This went on to become the 5th movement of Ultimos Ritos, so Chrone is nevertheless right.

Sforzando, the Berlioz piece does contain a direct quotation, but it isn't of Handel, it's of a Neapolitan folktune also found in a sonata of Scarlatti's, though Berlioz's treatment of it is more extensive.

Is it the piano part to a vocal piece?
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."