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Re: Sviatoslav Richter
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2007, 01:09:23 PM »
Maybe you can ask Tom Deacon on rmcr? ;)

He's actually been a big help to me, when he wants to be.  ;)

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Re: Sviatoslav Richter
« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2007, 07:38:44 AM »

Can you tell the difference between Richter and Gavrilov?

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=45732805cf458166b4e0c5efb3960d797c1ffb30fb167974

The above 4 tracks have been renamed to disguise their identity.

Listen to them in order and try to guess how many (and which) are Richter and which are Gavrilov.

To be fair, I have included at least one from each pianist.  :)

I will post the results in a few days. 

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Re: Sviatoslav Richter
« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2007, 01:05:22 AM »
Can you tell the difference between Richter and Gavrilov?

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=45732805cf458166b4e0c5efb3960d797c1ffb30fb167974

The above 4 tracks have been renamed to disguise their identity.

Listen to them in order and try to guess how many (and which) are Richter and which are Gavrilov.

To be fair, I have included at least one from each pianist.  :)

I will post the results in a few days. 

George, I can't participate as I have the recordings you've uploaded. However, Richter did say that friends did have problems differentiating between them in these recordings
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Re: Sviatoslav Richter
« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2007, 01:21:52 AM »
I prefer the story of Richter being duped when the producer(s) (or friends?) switched around the recordings of his and Gavrilov's Prokofiev 8 sonatas.

George

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Re: Sviatoslav Richter
« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2007, 05:21:22 AM »
George, I can't participate as I have the recordings you've uploaded. However, Richter did say that friends did have problems differentiating between them in these recordings

He did, but orbital and I can't seem to understand why they had problems differentiating. Their styles are very different.  :-\

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Re: Sviatoslav Richter
« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2007, 05:46:19 AM »
I haven't listened to much Gavrilov, but none of what I heard bore any resemblance to Richter  ::)

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Re: Sviatoslav Richter
« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2007, 07:05:50 PM »

I would like to begin a discussion about our favorite recordings of Schubert sonatas by Richter.

I understand that he recorded the following sonatas:

D 566
D 575 (Philips, Decca Florence - 1966)
D 625
D 664
D 784
D 840
D 845
D 850
D 894 (Brilliant Classics - Moscow, 1978)
D 958
D 960 (Regis, Olympia - Salzburg, 1972)

I have indicated my favorites in the cases where I have more than one recording and I have a clear preference for a particular performance. I am interested to hear what your favorite performances are as well.

I am also very curious about the fact that Richter chose not to record (and perform?) D 959. It seems strange to me that he would neglect this work.

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Re: Sviatoslav Richter
« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2007, 12:24:36 AM »
In a lot of cases Richter chose not to record a work that he thought someone had played superbly and that he couldn't better. Schnabel's D959 is peerless IMO and no doubt Richter had already heard that. However, whether this is the case or not is open to conjecture.
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George

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Re: Sviatoslav Richter
« Reply #28 on: September 15, 2007, 05:11:16 AM »
In a lot of cases Richter chose not to record a work that he thought someone had played superbly and that he couldn't better.

Yes, I have heard this before. However, I think that since his approach to Schubert was very different than Schnabel's (or really just about anyone's) perhaps there is another reason.

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Re: Sviatoslav Richter
« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2007, 01:12:29 PM »
I don't like Schubert's sonatas very much but I always keep Richter's D958 from Budapest nearby (not near enough to check what year it was recorded in though). There's also a superb D850 on the same disc which I think was released elsewhere.

Same goes for Sofronitsky's D960

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Re: Sviatoslav Richter
« Reply #30 on: September 15, 2007, 05:29:46 PM »
George,

Have you heard Fiorentino's Schubert on APR?




Veit Bach-a baker who found his greatest pleasure in a little cittern which he took with him even into the mill and played while the grinding was going on. In this way he had a chance to have the rhythm drilled into him. And this was the beginning of a musical inclination in his descendants. JS Bach

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Re: Sviatoslav Richter
« Reply #31 on: September 15, 2007, 05:36:04 PM »
According to MDT, the next three volumes in Richter: The Master come out in October:



Richter - The Master Volume 7


CD 1

Johannes Brahms (1833-1897)

Piano Sonata No.1 in C major, Op.1

1 I Allegro 12:15

2 II Andante 6:33

3 III Scherzo 6:55

4 IV Finale: Allegro con fuoco 7:30

Piano Sonata No.2 in F sharp minor, Op.2

5 I Allegro non troppo, ma energico 6:14

6 II Andante con espressione 5:12

7 III Scherzo: Allegro 3:54

8 IV Finale: Introduzione: Sostenuto - Allegro non troppo e rubato 12:00

 

CD 2

Johannes Brahms Variations on a Theme by Paganini, Op. 35

1 Book 1 13:17

2 Book 2 10:30

3 Ballade in G minor, Op.118 no.3 3:14

4 Rhapsody in E flat, Op.119 no.4 3:49

5 Intermezzo in E minor, Op.116 no.5 3:31

6 Capriccio in C, Op.76 no.8 2:47

Robert Schumann (1810-1856)

7-9 Fantasie in C major, Op.17 32:59



Richter The Master Volume 8

J. S. Bach (1685 - 1750)

CD 1

1-6 English Suite No.3 in G minor, BWV808

7-12 English Suite No.4 in F major, BWV 809

13-18 English Suite No.6 in D minor, BWV 811

 

CD 2

1-6 English Suite No.2 in C minor, BWV 813

7-14 English Suite No.6 in E flat major, BWV 815a

15-22 French Suite No.6 in E major, BWV 817

23 Toccata in D minor, BWV 913

24 Toccata in G major, BWV 916

25 Fantasia (and unfinished Fugue) in C minor, BWV 906


Richter The Master Volume 9

 

CD 1

J. S. Bach (1685-1750)

1-3 Italian Concerto in F major, BWV971 13:25

4-11 Partita (French Ouverture) in B minor, BWV 831 39:43

12-15 4 Duets, BWV 805 10:40

Recorded Germany 1991


CD 2

Frederic Chopin (1810-1849)

10 Etudes, Op. 10

1-8 Nos. 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 10, 11 & 12 20:03

10 Etudes, Op. 25

9-14 Nos. 5, 6, 8, 11, 12 & 7 19:27

15 Polonaise No. 1 in C sharp minor, Op. 26 No. 1 9:33

16 Polonaise No. 4 in C minor, Op. 40 No. 2 7:35

Recorded 1988-1991
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Re: Sviatoslav Richter
« Reply #32 on: September 15, 2007, 06:54:07 PM »
I don't like Schubert's sonatas very much but I always keep Richter's D958 from Budapest nearby (not near enough to check what year it was recorded in though).

That's easy to remember, 1958.  8)

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There's also a superb D850 on the same disc which I think was released elsewhere.

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Same goes for Sofronitsky's D960

Sounds good, I'll keep an eye out.

George

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Re: Sviatoslav Richter
« Reply #33 on: September 15, 2007, 06:59:51 PM »
According to MDT, the next three volumes in Richter: The Master come out in October:



Richter - The Master Volume 7


CD 1

Johannes Brahms (1833-1897)

Piano Sonata No.1 in C major, Op.1


Piano Sonata No.2 in F sharp minor, Op.2


CD 2

Johannes Brahms Variations on a Theme by Paganini, Op. 35



My mouth is watering for this one!  8)

BTW, are these the same as the Brahms Sonatas released on Decca?

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Richter The Master Volume 8

J. S. Bach (1685 - 1750)

CD 1

1-6 English Suite No.3 in G minor, BWV808

7-12 English Suite No.4 in F major, BWV 809

13-18 English Suite No.6 in D minor, BWV 811

 

CD 2

1-6 English Suite No.2 in C minor, BWV 813

7-14 English Suite No.6 in E flat major, BWV 815a

15-22 French Suite No.6 in E major, BWV 817

23 Toccata in D minor, BWV 913

24 Toccata in G major, BWV 916

25 Fantasia (and unfinished Fugue) in C minor, BWV 906

Excellent, I haven't heard his Bach in these works before. It will be a treat!  :D

Any idea when these were recorded?

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Richter The Master Volume 9

CD 1

J. S. Bach (1685-1750)

1-3 Italian Concerto in F major, BWV971 13:25

4-11 Partita (French Ouverture) in B minor, BWV 831 39:43

12-15 4 Duets, BWV 805 10:40

Recorded Germany 1991


CD 2

Frederic Chopin (1810-1849)

10 Etudes, Op. 10

1-8 Nos. 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 10, 11 & 12 20:03

10 Etudes, Op. 25

9-14 Nos. 5, 6, 8, 11, 12 & 7 19:27

15 Polonaise No. 1 in C sharp minor, Op. 26 No. 1 9:33

16 Polonaise No. 4 in C minor, Op. 40 No. 2 7:35

Recorded 1988-1991

Great, so that just leaves the Liszt works and Chopin Preludes, Baracarolle, Nocturne, Polonaise Fantasie from the "Authorised Recordings" series.
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Re: Sviatoslav Richter
« Reply #34 on: September 15, 2007, 07:03:54 PM »
George,

Have you heard Fiorentino's Schubert on APR?

I haven't.  :-\

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« Reply #35 on: September 15, 2007, 07:08:57 PM »
BTW, are these the same as the Brahms Sonatas released on Decca?

The Decca sonatas are actually from a year or two earlier.




Veit Bach-a baker who found his greatest pleasure in a little cittern which he took with him even into the mill and played while the grinding was going on. In this way he had a chance to have the rhythm drilled into him. And this was the beginning of a musical inclination in his descendants. JS Bach

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« Reply #36 on: September 15, 2007, 07:12:53 PM »
I haven't.  :-\

Me, neither.

I'd like to change that, though. Looks like BRO has several from that APR Fiorentino edition in stock. Might just pull the trigger...




Veit Bach-a baker who found his greatest pleasure in a little cittern which he took with him even into the mill and played while the grinding was going on. In this way he had a chance to have the rhythm drilled into him. And this was the beginning of a musical inclination in his descendants. JS Bach

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Re: Sviatoslav Richter
« Reply #37 on: September 15, 2007, 07:17:02 PM »
The Decca sonatas are actually from a year or two earlier.

That explains why the timings are different.

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Re: Sviatoslav Richter
« Reply #38 on: September 15, 2007, 07:17:44 PM »
Me, neither.

I'd like to change that, though. Looks like BRO has several from that APR Fiorentino edition in stock. Might just pull the trigger...

Ooooooo.  8)

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Re: Sviatoslav Richter
« Reply #39 on: September 15, 2007, 07:18:09 PM »
I'd like to change that, though. Looks like BRO has several from that APR Fiorentino edition in stock. Might just pull the trigger...


I see they have his Chopin 3 / Schubert D960 for sale. Steve (Molman) considered that a top disc and Herman really likes the Chopin 3. I thought both were excellent, just not top choices for me. I doubt you'd find it anything less than enjoyable though (it isFiorentino after all).

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Sounds good, I'll keep an eye out.

It's on Japanese Denon only as far as I know. There's an earlier live recording on a rare Alrecchino CD but I haven't heard it (apparently the sound is awful). I'll happily upload the Sofronitsky. It won't be to everyone's taste but it is my favourite performance and is considered top at RMCR too.

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