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Re: Last Movie You Watched
« Reply #26780 on: November 04, 2017, 08:16:30 PM »
No, but might actually have been better without dialogue, or at least with a more realistic language barrier, as the strength of the film is entirely in its visuals.

Drink every time someone says "apostatize". That'll help.

Lol, thanks for your reply Simon. ;D
I like beautiful/arty visuals but I need the story to develop and move forward at a reasonable rate too.
Martin Scorcese is (was?) cool but I think I'm going to take your advice and avoid this one. :)

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« Reply #26781 on: November 04, 2017, 08:33:52 PM »
Lol, thanks for your reply Simon. ;D
I like beautiful/arty visuals but I need the story to develop and move forward at a reasonable rate too.
Martin Scorcese is (was?) cool but I think I'm going to take your advice and avoid this one. :)

Its not that the story is bad, though they treat the need to convert the Japanese to Christianity as an obvious given, never with any sense of historical curiosity or context or argument - apart from the same six or seven dumbed down constantly professed articles of faith. The film also seems to enjoy its prolonged depictions of torture far more than it should.

I'm left wondering if these elements were handled better in Endo's source novel.
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« Reply #26782 on: November 04, 2017, 08:47:14 PM »
Its not that the story is bad, though they treat the need to convert the Japanese to Christianity as an obvious given, never with any sense of historical curiosity or context or argument - apart from the same six or seven dumbed down constantly professed articles of faith. The film also seems to enjoy its prolonged depictions of torture far more than it should.

I'm left wondering if these elements were handled better in Endo's source novel.

Thanks Simon, I think I see where you're coming from now.
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« Reply #26783 on: November 04, 2017, 09:11:30 PM »
Thanks Simon, I think I see where you're coming from now - I remember seeing a couple of other "Missionary" type films; the one that sticks in my mind is Black Robe and I think I watched The Mission at some point as well.
I remember liking (maybe like's not the right word) Black Robe a lot - whats your thoughts on this one?.

I seem to remember liking Black Robe, but I havent't seen it since it came out back in '91.

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« Reply #26784 on: November 04, 2017, 09:38:35 PM »
I'm actually looking forward to seeing Silence, it will probably be one of the next three or four Blu-Rays I'll be picking up.

For one thing, Japan has been holding my interest for a good part of this year. But while I've educated myself somewhat on Japanese history over the last eighty years, I've yet to delve deeply into the Edo Period, which is the setting for Scorsese's film. ( I'm also intending to watch the TV adaptation for Clavell's Shogun, which I've not seen since the original broadcast. )

I do pretty well with slow-paced, visually-structured films. My all-time favorite movie is, after all, 2001: A Space Odyssey.

So for me, Silence should be golden.

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« Reply #26785 on: November 04, 2017, 09:47:11 PM »
I'm actually looking forward to seeing Silence, it will probably be one of the next three or four Blu-Rays I'll be picking up.

For one thing, Japan has been holding my interest for a good part of this year. But while I've educated myself somewhat on Japanese history over the last eighty years, I've yet to delve deeply into the Edo Period, which is the setting for Scorsese's film. ( I'm also intending to watch the TV adaptation for Clavell's Shogun, which I've not seen since the original broadcast. )

I do pretty well with slow-paced, visually-structured films. My all-time favorite movie is, after all, 2001: A Space Odyssey.

So for me, Silence should be golden.

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2001 is a classic :) - I think I have been able to forgive it for being pretty slow moving (and with little plot or dialogue) because I love the Sci-Fi/Fantasy genre.
Good music too! (it's what got me interested in R. Strauss and Ligeti).

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« Reply #26786 on: November 04, 2017, 10:07:59 PM »
Its the poor script that makes Silence a tedious (for me) film, rather than anything to do with pacing of the narrative or the length of scenes or shots.

I'd be interested in hearing the reactions of others here who have seen it.

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« Reply #26787 on: November 04, 2017, 11:38:50 PM »
Its the poor script that makes Silence a tedious (for me) film, rather than anything to do with pacing of the narrative or the length of scenes or shots.

I'd be interested in hearing the reactions of others here who have seen it.

I'll certainly post my thoughts once I've acquired the bluray and viewed it.

In truth, anything could happen. While l respect Scorcese's achievements over the years, this film's descriptions and attendant reactions seem somewhat reminiscent of the creations of another director whom l avoid at all cost, Terrence Malick.

If Silence is anything at all like The Thin Red Line, chances of me getting beyond the first hour will be slight indeed.

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« Reply #26788 on: November 04, 2017, 11:56:01 PM »
2001 is a classic :) - I think I have been able to forgive it for being pretty slow moving (and with little plot or dialogue) because I love the Sci-Fi/Fantasy genre.
Good music too! (it's what got me interested in R. Strauss and Ligeti).

Ah, the beauties of Kubrick's most subtle-yet-cosmic opus. And he even put a musical keyboard in the Discovery set!

A couple of years back, it was remastered and subsequently shown in 4k, in England. I'm hoping that will translate into a 4k UHD 50th-Anniversary release next year. If that happens, it'll be sufficient motivation for me to invest in the new hardware ( I've been holding out, waiting for 8k to develop and arrive for the consumer market ).

But as much as I'd love to create a long, musing love-letter to Clarke & Kubrick, it is time now for Moonwatcher to hide from the leopard and sleep... Perhaps a Monolith will greet me in the morning.

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« Reply #26789 on: November 05, 2017, 12:00:43 AM »
Its not much like Terrence Malick, you'll be pleased to hear (though I wish it were - I like Malick more than you seem to).

Curiously I kept thinking of Mel Gibson's Passion Of The Christ while i was watching Silence. There's there's this odd sense I havent seen in Scorsese before that he's going well beyond his occasional bit of Catholic symbolism in a few of his films into a much more explicit expression of belief, and in the certainty of rightness of that belief. And also because of the torture-porn.

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« Reply #26790 on: November 05, 2017, 03:50:35 AM »
The Haunting....





An old one but certainly worth a watch as it holds ones attention well.
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« Reply #26791 on: November 05, 2017, 04:44:11 AM »
I have this one on Bluray and it did absolutely nothing for me and I think it's dated. I'll try it again at some point.

Watch The Innocents from 1961, it's so much better, Criterion's got it.


Yes, The Haunting definitely is dated but not in a "corny" way for me and I thought that it held up well.
Thank you for recommending The Innocents.
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« Reply #26792 on: November 05, 2017, 11:47:48 AM »
Naturally I was pretty psyched when they announced the release of Silence. On paper the premise seemed very promising, but then it hit me, especially after seeing it's initial ho-hum trailer, it's one of those religion-oriented films; solemn, serious, dull .. and I just don't care about watching those. More often than not they just bore the piss out of me and are often forgettable. Even Scorsese's other religion films don't come anywhere near his best stuff - and Silence was the worst religious film he has done.

     It didn't occur to me that Silence was a religious film as much as one about the problematic nature of religious imperialism. Then the last scene (I think it was the last) comes along as a kind of get out of jail card for believers.

     I got this from a review:

It’s likely some audiences will have trouble with the last part of Silence, unused to hearing that the Christian missionaries with whom they’ve been identifying operate as much out of colonialist arrogance as true devotion. They’ll doubtless prefer the doubtless Thomas More of A Man for All Seasons, who sentenced hundreds of Protestants to be burned and beheaded but stuck to his principles and became a saint. To be fair to those audiences, it’s easier to dramatize certainty than ambivalence, and books like Endo’s can chart internal tug-of-wars more lucidly than films — even films with narration. Some members of Japan’s Catholic community denounced Silence when it was published, and the movie will generate a fair amount of controversy, too. Excellent!

     
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« Reply #26793 on: November 05, 2017, 03:38:58 PM »
I seem to remember liking Black Robe, but I havent't seen it since it came out back in '91.

     I think it's outstanding FWIW.
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Re: Last Movie You Watched
« Reply #26794 on: November 05, 2017, 04:09:09 PM »
Thor: Ragnarok
2017 ‧ Fantasy/Science fiction film ‧ 2h 10m

Imprisoned on the other side of the universe, the mighty Thor finds himself in a deadly gladiatorial contest that pits him against the Hulk, his former ally and fellow Avenger. Thor's quest for survival leads him in a race against time to prevent the all-powerful Hela from destroying his home world and the Asgardian civilization.


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« Reply #26795 on: November 05, 2017, 07:30:44 PM »
Roy Andersson - A Pigeon Sat on a Branch Reflecting on Existence

I don't have words for how amazing this film is.....woah  :o



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« Reply #26796 on: November 06, 2017, 06:11:04 AM »
We saw Loving Vincent tonight.  A really wonderful film.  Essentially what they've done is make the movie, and then frame by frame paint over the actors and scenery in the style of Van Gogh.  The script follows the Steven Naifeh and‎ Gregory White Smith biography, which presents evidence of him dying from being shot instead of a self-inflected wound.  But the film makers also leave it up in the air offering credible evidence of a suicide as well.

I would recommend the film, especially for those who have a special interest in the paintings and life of Van Gogh.  It is definitely not gimmicky, at least not imo.


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« Reply #26797 on: November 06, 2017, 06:40:18 AM »
This week end, together with my 4-year-8-month son, on repeat mutiple times by his request:

Laurel & Hardy: The Final Touch and Busy Bodies

Give me them any day and night over what passes today as "comedy", by watching most of which not even my a$$ laughs, as we say in Romanian about something that pretends to be funny but isn't.  ;D
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« Reply #26798 on: November 06, 2017, 09:16:06 AM »
Screened "Denial" (2016) yesterday.  I liked it quite a lot; very well-done.

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« Reply #26799 on: November 06, 2017, 04:33:31 PM »
This is just a circular play on words ... what you are saying is derived from crap you've read - but what you are saying is that it is a religious film, or a film about religious oriented topics which was what I was meaning to begin with.

     Not really, I derived my view from watching the film.
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