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Re: Last Movie You Watched
« Reply #27240 on: January 11, 2018, 03:05:33 PM »
Masterful storytelling. My reservation, that it attributes honor and nobility to people who are, in reality, degenerate killers.

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Re: Last Movie You Watched
« Reply #27241 on: January 11, 2018, 06:29:57 PM »
Masterful storytelling. My reservation, that it attributes honor and nobility to people who are, in reality, degenerate killers.
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« Reply #27242 on: January 11, 2018, 08:45:03 PM »
Masterful storytelling. My reservation, that it attributes honor and nobility to people who are, in reality, degenerate killers.

Your reservation is totally understandable. But l think that in Coppola's tale, these characters simply obey the cultural mores of their filmic universe. If their intentions, actions and interactions were " normal", the only credible story which could take place would show the family's destruction, since the other criminal organizations would interpret such normalcy as weakness.

But it's certainly true that none of the principal characters are Boy Scouts, though at the beginning Michael seems closer to someone a viewer might actually know, a starting point for the character's evolution over the course of the first two films.

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Re: Last Movie You Watched
« Reply #27243 on: January 12, 2018, 04:07:29 AM »
Masterful storytelling. My reservation, that it attributes honor and nobility to people who are, in reality, degenerate killers.

Your reservation is totally understandable. But l think that in Coppola's tale, these characters simply obey the cultural mores of their filmic universe. If their intentions, actions and interactions were " normal", the only credible story which could take place would show the family's destruction, since the other criminal organizations would interpret such normalcy as weakness.

But it's certainly true that none of the principal characters are Boy Scouts, though at the beginning Michael seems closer to someone a viewer might actually know, a starting point for the character's evolution over the course of the first two films.

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Agreed that it does not, in fact, glamorize the goons.  I do not think it attributes honor or nobility to them, but it impartially tells the story of degenerate killers who themselves believe they possess a kind of honor.
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« Reply #27244 on: January 12, 2018, 04:08:20 AM »
And the heart of the story is, the progress of degeneration.
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Re: Last Movie You Watched
« Reply #27245 on: January 12, 2018, 06:20:34 AM »
And the heart of the story is, the progress of degeneration.

Culminating in a man killing his brother because family.

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« Reply #27246 on: January 12, 2018, 06:36:00 AM »
Culminating in a man killing his brother because family.

But not while mum's alive, don't want her losing another son!
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Re: Last Movie You Watched
« Reply #27247 on: January 12, 2018, 07:21:22 AM »
Only paranthetical to the topic . . . no, I didn't read the "article," as the headline was one of a posy of clickbait 8)
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« Reply #27248 on: January 12, 2018, 07:27:45 AM »
Only paranthetical to the topic . . . no, I didn't read the "article," as the headline was one of a posy of clickbait 8)

Budget   $150–185 million[6][7][8][9]
Box office   $259 million[6]

according to Wikipedia

I quite liked the movie, other than the fact at the late showing I attended in midtown Manhattan a guy in the back row was snoring loudly.
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Re: Last Movie You Watched
« Reply #27249 on: January 12, 2018, 07:30:37 AM »
Budget   $150–185 million[6][7][8][9]
Box office   $259 million[6]

according to Wikipedia

I quite liked the movie, other than the fact at the late showing I attended in midtown Manhattan a guy in the back row was snoring loudly.

The assertion that it "totally flopped" did not sort at all with much of the reaction I've seen here.  So I had my salt at the ready.
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« Reply #27250 on: January 12, 2018, 11:31:31 PM »

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On its own terms, moderately bad. As a follow up to the earlier two, a shithole.

While l might not be willing to blast Part III quite so much, I'd agree that FFC should have quit while he was way ahead.

The final scene of Part II is possessed of an emotional complexity which ranks with ( imho ) any scene in any other film ever made...

Michael sits alone, reminiscing. The Christmas-eve dinner scene fades in, and runs its course. At the end, with the camera slowly pushing in on Al Pacino, we know we're looking at a man who has become morally empty.

Trying to follow that, trying to recapture the lightning in a bottle years later... It was a mistake, and I've always suspected that Coppola knew it on some level.

So l watch parts I & II. There is more than enough beautiful acting, humor, story and filmic beauty to go around.

Part III... well, if it's on and l happen to lstumble across it, l can watch a few minutes of it. Beyond that l become painfully aware of what's missing.

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Re: Last Movie You Watched
« Reply #27251 on: January 12, 2018, 11:38:08 PM »

An enjoyable interpretation of the novel. Knightley is charming; Donald Sutherland and Judi Dench add a necessary dash of seasoning to the affair. This satisfies my intermittent need to consume a period drama and check in with the contemporary A-listers.

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Re: Last Movie You Watched
« Reply #27252 on: January 13, 2018, 03:52:20 AM »
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Re: Last Movie You Watched
« Reply #27253 on: January 13, 2018, 04:38:20 AM »
Again, last night: Seven Psychopaths. (And Donnie makes eight!)
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Re: Last Movie You Watched
« Reply #27254 on: January 13, 2018, 06:37:48 AM »
Thanks.

I never saw Good Fellas for the same reason. I assumed they were movies for a certain kind of man. And that I was/am a different kind of man.

Joe Pesci does amazing job in Goodfellas. He even improvised during my favorite scene of the movie!
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Re: Last Movie You Watched
« Reply #27255 on: January 13, 2018, 08:05:45 AM »
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Loved that!

Again, last night: Seven Psychopaths. (And Donnie makes eight!)

Loved that too!
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Re: Last Movie You Watched
« Reply #27256 on: January 13, 2018, 08:52:36 AM »
Again, last night: Seven Psychopaths. (And Donnie makes eight!)

Is that the Darmstadt documentary?
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« Reply #27257 on: January 13, 2018, 08:58:35 AM »
Is that the Darmstadt documentary?

Or Kürten 51515  8)
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Re: Last Movie You Watched
« Reply #27258 on: January 13, 2018, 09:31:53 AM »
   
An enjoyable interpretation of the novel. Knightley is charming; Donald Sutherland and Judi Dench add a necessary dash of seasoning to the affair. This satisfies my intermittent need to consume a period drama and check in with the contemporary A-listers.

Agree - enjoy the Knightley performance, especially for a standard movie length - own the 3 'versions' below, and like all although the TV miniseries w/ Ehle & Firth is my favorite when in the mood for an 'extended' story - for those interested, check HERE for a listing of 17 films, TV miniseries, and 'adaptations' (some far-fetched) of this Jane Austen classic.  Dave :)

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« Reply #27259 on: January 13, 2018, 07:55:47 PM »
Agree - enjoy the Knightley performance, especially for a standard movie length - own the 3 'versions' below, and like all although the TV miniseries w/ Ehle & Firth is my favorite when in the mood for an 'extended' story - for those interested, check HERE for a listing of 17 films, TV miniseries, and 'adaptations' (some far-fetched) of this Jane Austen classic.  Dave :)
I think I'm going to rewatch the BBC versions of Sense and Emma. I did see the miniseries of Pride but don't remember anymore for comparison. I really want to show my wife the last film version of Bronte's Jane Eyre. Now that I think was good stuff if I remember right.

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