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Re: Havergal Brian.
« Reply #6080 on: March 21, 2014, 11:25:12 AM »
Symphony #10

Well, of course, that's the 'famous' one I've enjoyed on YT. I'd like to try something really oddball, or problematic- more hairballs please!!
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« Reply #6081 on: March 21, 2014, 01:07:31 PM »
Well, try number 4!

Some people round here can't stand it, others think it is very clever, but vulnerable to being misunderstood.

It's a setting one of the more militaristic psalms, in German, lasts about 45 minutes and in places is unbearably loud and overbearing. One school of though holds it is simply a mistake with Brian unwisely revelling in the worship of 'Macht und Kraft', others that it is a clever parody of German militarism intended to warn German audiences of the dangers of rising Nazism. Others simply dislike the entire concept whatever its purpose.

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Re: Havergal Brian.
« Reply #6082 on: March 21, 2014, 02:09:42 PM »
Well, of course, that's the 'famous' one I've enjoyed on YT. I'd like to try something really oddball, or problematic- more hairballs please!!
Have you tried No3? It's on a big scale. It started off as a piano concerto,I believe,and then Brian turned it into a symphony. The piano concerto bits are still there;so it's a bit like a huge symphony with a concerto gatecrashing bits. It's actually my favourite Brian symphony! The Pope recording,available at the AMF forum,is much,much better than the Hyperion one.

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Re: Havergal Brian.
« Reply #6083 on: March 21, 2014, 03:55:15 PM »
Great news about both the Naxos and Dutton projects,

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but 2013 passed without the Testament issue of The Tigers. Is this 1983 broadcast still planned for release or has it been shelved?

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Hi, John! The latest HBS Newsletter had an apology and update re The Tigers: due to 'unforeseen circumstances' the release date has had to be pushed back into 2014. But The Tigers will roar!
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Re: Havergal Brian.
« Reply #6084 on: March 27, 2014, 09:43:55 AM »
Thanks, Johan. It's great news that the project hasn't hit the buffers - I'm sure that many of us are greatly looking forward to this commercial release later in the year which will surprise many who regard Brian as an intractable prospect. The Toccata release gave us a superlative account the orchestral symphonic variations Has anyone here seen Kelly?, but this music really demands to be heard in it's operatic context.

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Re: Havergal Brian.
« Reply #6085 on: April 06, 2014, 12:21:14 PM »
Will read immediately!!!


Update: I DID read it before!
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Re: Havergal Brian.
« Reply #6086 on: April 06, 2014, 12:22:49 PM »
Don't worry,I'll give you time to read! ;D

(Update 23:32 I have removed the IRR review which Johan refers to!)
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Re: Havergal Brian.
« Reply #6087 on: April 06, 2014, 12:24:18 PM »
How are things, cilgwyn? I have been enjoying listening to the Recordings Library of the HBS, which is now online (for members). A sort of Brian jukebox. Very handy!
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Re: Havergal Brian.
« Reply #6088 on: April 06, 2014, 02:27:34 PM »
Apologies Johan,I was phoning my father!
I wish they had juke boxes like that in the pub!! I was a bit late with this review upload;but I've got a new printer/scanner. I had to find something to do with it!! ;D

 An enthusiastic review (IRR March edition) but it would be difficult not to be. I notice he describes Garry Walker's reading of the Fifth English Suite as "a more precise and cohesive reading". Apart from that minor quibble the LSSO still reign supreme in these scores;although I know John has some reservations about Alexander Walker's No 22!
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Re: Havergal Brian.
« Reply #6089 on: April 06, 2014, 02:38:27 PM »
Incidentally,has anyone seen Gramophone Magazine since it (recently) changed hands? Is there any sign of improvement?

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Re: Havergal Brian.
« Reply #6090 on: April 06, 2014, 02:39:18 PM »
Check your Inbox, cilgwyn...
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Re: Havergal Brian.
« Reply #6091 on: April 06, 2014, 03:24:41 PM »
Thank you Johan! I just looked there,now! :)
I just had a look at the Gramophone website. With Pavarotti on the front (can't stand him!) I'm not holding my breath! Although they say they have a much expanded review section. Of course that won't help if they're dumb and short!!

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Re: Havergal Brian.
« Reply #6092 on: April 06, 2014, 03:27:47 PM »
I don't think Gramophone will ever be as good as it once was. The whole industry has changed, and so has the culture. But now - to bed! Bye!
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Re: Havergal Brian.
« Reply #6093 on: April 06, 2014, 05:12:03 PM »
I don't think Gramophone will ever be as good as it once was. The whole industry has changed, and so has the culture. But now - to bed! Bye!

hope and change :(
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