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Haydn op.76
« on: October 20, 2007, 01:44:51 PM »
Everyone must buy this, it has to be the best cd I have ever heard. Anyone know more about this string quartet?


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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2007, 03:09:02 PM »
Everyone must buy this, it has to be the best cd I have ever heard. Anyone know more about this string quartet?



I have had it since it first came out!  Quatuor Mosaiques, despite of their French(ified) name, is largely an Austrian HIP group (the cellist, Christophe Coin, is French), consisting of first desk players from Nikolaus Harnoncourt's ensemble Concentus Musicus Wien.  They specialise in Viennese Classical repertories - Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert - but also records other music from the period: Boccherini, Hyacinthe Jardin etc. 
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2007, 03:16:45 PM »
Thanks for the heads-up. I thought I owned the Op. 76, but it's Ops. 71 and 74 that I've got. :)

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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2007, 07:15:09 PM »
I have had it since it first came out!  Quatuor Mosaiques, despite of their French(ified) name, is largely an Austrian HIP group (the cellist, Christophe Coin, is French), consisting of first desk players from Nikolaus Harnoncourt's ensemble Concentus Musicus Wien.  They specialise in Viennese Classical repertories - Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert - but also records other music from the period: Boccherini, Hyacinthe Jardin etc. 

They are amazing, do you know if they happened to have done Mozart's quintets (with a 5th guy?), I would love to see if they can compete with my Salomon quartet recording.

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Thanks for the heads-up. I thought I owned the Op. 76, but it's Ops. 71 and 74 that I've got. Smiley

Buy it :) I'll put a movement up on youtube so you can check it out.
Damn I ripped the cd as m4a...and windows movie maker doesn't support the filetype...

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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2007, 08:09:40 PM »
Here you go

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/G90xWkeM7X0" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/G90xWkeM7X0</a>

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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2007, 11:12:13 PM »
They are amazing, do you know if they happened to have done Mozart's quintets (with a 5th guy?), I would love to see if they can compete with my Salomon quartet recording.

They have recorded Mozart's Clarinet Quintet (w/Wolfgang Meyer) but not the ones for strings as far as I know.   In HIP Mozart string quintets, I have had all four late ones recorded by Hausmusik London (Virgin/EMI), but they are eclipsed in K. 515 and 516 by L'Archibudelli (sony) and especially by Ensemble 415 (harmonia mundi, lst violin: Chiara Banchini)   
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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2007, 02:22:24 AM »
I never got on with this ensemble, found their playing to be fussy and lethargic. Exceptionally well-recorded though...
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Re: Haydn op.76
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2007, 04:43:29 AM »
I am also a QM fan, even in the op.76 where there is a lot of competition. Their slow-ish tempos are quite refreshing for this style, and they are so amazingly refined. The #2 quartet in this set is my favourite by them, the way the main theme is played would make Mozart cry with joy (it sure as hell "flows like oil" :D).
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Re: Haydn op.76
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2007, 05:04:49 AM »
Here you go

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/G90xWkeM7X0" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/G90xWkeM7X0</a>

Thanks, I realize I need to buy this ASAP.

P.S. The girl doesn't spin, does that mean I am mindless?  :(

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« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2007, 11:31:31 AM »
Thanks, I realize I need to buy this ASAP.

P.S. The girl doesn't spin, does that mean I am mindless?  :(


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Re: Haydn op.76
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2007, 11:16:27 PM »
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Everyone must buy this, it has to be the best cd I have ever heard. Anyone know more about this string quartet?



I have this version, and it is very good, perhaps the best. They recorded other Quartets from Haydn, in special the opus 20 and 77. I don't like them very much in the opus 33.



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Re: Haydn op.76
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2007, 01:20:43 PM »



I have this version, and it is very good, perhaps the best. They recorded other Quartets from Haydn, in special the opus 20 and 77. I don't like them very much in the opus 33.



What's different in the Opus 33?

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« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2007, 12:12:56 AM »
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What's different in the Opus 33?


In the opus 33 I prefer a version with more dynamic and contrasts. It is one of the most light cycles of Haydn's Quartets. I prefer the Lindsays or even the Weller. As an example: the first theme of the opus 33/3 has much more exuberance with the Lindsays and seems a little pale with the Mosaiques, too heavy.

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« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2007, 07:37:34 AM »

In the opus 33 I prefer a version with more dynamic and contrasts. It is one of the most light cycles of Haydn's Quartets. I prefer the Lindsays or even the Weller. As an example: the first theme of the opus 33/3 has much more exuberance with the Lindsays and seems a little pale with the Mosaiques, too heavy.
Well yes, but you did not answer my question.  You are saying there is another recording of Op 33 that you like better, what I was asking is whether the M. quartet performances of Op 33 are noticeably different than their other Haydn recordings.

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« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2007, 11:28:29 PM »
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Well yes, but you did not answer my question.  You are saying there is another recording of Op 33 that you like better, what I was asking is whether the M. quartet performances of Op 33 are noticeably different than their other Haydn recordings.

No, the Mosaiques remain the same. But the works of the opus 33 are different. As I said, they are light, more contrasted. The opus 20 is a work still under the influence of the aesthetic of the Sturm und Drang, and the two last opus are already turned to the 19th century, with a greater density of the sound. 

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« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2007, 09:06:27 AM »
No, the Mosaiques remain the same. But the works of the opus 33 are different. As I said, they are light, more contrasted. The opus 20 is a work still under the influence of the aesthetic of the Sturm und Drang, and the two last opus are already turned to the 19th century, with a greater density of the sound. 
I see, thanks.

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Re: Haydn op.76
« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2007, 10:31:27 AM »
String Quartet Op. 76 N. 2 in D minor ("Fifths") is one of my faves .......  0:)

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« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2007, 01:05:54 PM »
No, the Mosaiques remain the same. But the works of the opus 33 are different. As I said, they are light, more contrasted. The opus 20 is a work still under the influence of the aesthetic of the Sturm und Drang, and the two last opus are already turned to the 19th century, with a greater density of the sound. 

In Op. 33, I prefer the Coull's less raw intonation and approach.

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« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2018, 07:35:17 AM »
After 11 years, it's time to revive this one.

I've been satisfied with the Kodaly, but hearing the Pacifica Quartet play 76/1 a couple weeks ago made me curious about other versions. Recommendations?
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Re: Haydn op.76
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2018, 10:25:08 AM »
Tak√°cs Quartet (Decca) probably the best, Doric Quartet (Chandos) an alternative choice