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Re: Tchaikovsky's Manfred Symphony
« Reply #100 on: November 29, 2017, 06:29:08 PM »
I have Symeonov, Muti and Petrenko. I like the first two a lot, but in reading André's review, the Sylvestri is making me want to listen. :)

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Re: Tchaikovsky's Manfred Symphony
« Reply #101 on: November 29, 2017, 07:02:21 PM »
I have Symeonov, Muti and Petrenko. I like the first two a lot, but in reading André's review, the Sylvestri is making me want to listen. :)

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Re: Tchaikovsky's Manfred Symphony
« Reply #102 on: November 29, 2017, 07:22:31 PM »
Thanks for that, Cato:). This is much appreciated !

I made a mistake in my previous post: the Svetlanov I have is the Pathétique, not Manfred. I had planned to listen to it after the Rozhdestvensky, and almost had a heart attack at the beginning, realising my mistake  :'(.

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Re: Tchaikovsky's Manfred Symphony
« Reply #103 on: November 29, 2017, 07:24:57 PM »
Thanks for that, Cato:). This is much appreciated !

I made a mistake in my previous post: the Svetlanov I have is the Pathétique, not Manfred. I had planned to listen to it after the Rozhdestvensky, and almost had a heart attack at the beginning, realising my mistake  :'(.

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Re: Tchaikovsky's Manfred Symphony
« Reply #104 on: November 29, 2017, 07:26:56 PM »
Here it is on YouTube:

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/M4aQJGjHHos" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/M4aQJGjHHos</a>

Super, thanks!  I only bookmarked it for now, by the time it's done I will be sound asleep!  :)

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Re: Tchaikovsky's Manfred Symphony
« Reply #105 on: November 29, 2017, 07:27:07 PM »
?? Lemme see....... :laugh:

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Re: Tchaikovsky's Manfred Symphony
« Reply #106 on: November 29, 2017, 07:31:46 PM »
Listening to the Bychkov now on Tidal.  I don't think I can avoid being seduced by the sheer gorgeousness of the playing and sonics.

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Re: Tchaikovsky's Manfred Symphony
« Reply #107 on: November 29, 2017, 11:26:14 PM »
Listening to the Bychkov now on Tidal.  I don't think I can avoid being seduced by the sheer gorgeousness of the playing and sonics.

I can imagine, the reason I posted the recording was, besides the positive review, the Czech Philharmonic..... :)

Anyway, my current favourites are Markevitch and.... a dark horse: Chailly with the Concertgebouw Orchestra.

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Re: Tchaikovsky's Manfred Symphony
« Reply #108 on: November 29, 2017, 11:39:55 PM »
I like the Svetlanov where he brings back the magnificent end of the first movement at the end of the symphony - substituting Tchaikovsky's original ending.  :o ::)
Sacrilegious I know but I really prefer it.

As to the 'original' version I like Goossens's performance.
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Re: Tchaikovsky's Manfred Symphony
« Reply #109 on: November 30, 2017, 09:54:28 AM »
I like the Svetlanov where he brings back the magnificent end of the first movement at the end of the symphony - substituting Tchaikovsky's original ending.  :o ::)
Sacrilegious I know but I really prefer it.

I must hear that, sacreligious as it is, as I find the original ending of the work to be sorely disappointing! Aside from the ending, I think the Manfred Symphony is a great, underrated work. I find it a shame that Bernstein thought it was "garbage" and never recorded it :(
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Re: Tchaikovsky's Manfred Symphony
« Reply #110 on: November 30, 2017, 03:20:19 PM »
I must hear that, sacreligious as it is, as I find the original ending of the work to be sorely disappointing! Aside from the ending, I think the Manfred Symphony is a great, underrated work. I find it a shame that Bernstein thought it was "garbage" and never recorded it :(

Toscanini was undoubtedly standing at the pearly gates and waiting for Lenny with what Grandma called a "switch," and electricity was not involved!  :o 8)

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Re: Tchaikovsky's Manfred Symphony
« Reply #111 on: November 30, 2017, 05:13:27 PM »
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Re: Tchaikovsky's Manfred Symphony
« Reply #112 on: November 30, 2017, 07:17:56 PM »
Just listened to the Svetlanov ending...now, that's more like it! 8) Sorry, Pyotr!

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Re: Tchaikovsky's Manfred Symphony
« Reply #113 on: November 30, 2017, 11:10:59 PM »
Just listened to the Svetlanov ending...now, that's more like it! 8) Sorry, Pyotr!
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Re: Tchaikovsky's Manfred Symphony
« Reply #114 on: December 01, 2017, 07:56:41 AM »
Just listened to the Svetlanov ending...now, that's more like it! 8) Sorry, Pyotr!
Hey that was good - I liked the gratuitous tam-tam strikes too. 

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Re: Tchaikovsky's Manfred Symphony
« Reply #115 on: December 02, 2017, 03:37:35 PM »
Hey that was good - I liked the gratuitous tam-tam strikes too.

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Re: Tchaikovsky's Manfred Symphony
« Reply #116 on: December 02, 2017, 03:38:21 PM »
Hey that was good - I liked the gratuitous tam-tam strikes too.

Here is a review of the CD on Amazon UK. I very much agree with the first reviewer:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Overture-Leonore-Manfred-Beethoven/dp/B00BUL97H0
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