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Re: Tchaikovsky's Manfred Symphony
« Reply #80 on: March 12, 2017, 06:54:39 AM »
I actually heard the Manfred a few weeks ago by the New York Phil. here in NYC.  The audience went wild thinking they had heard a great performance but I felt it dragged in spots and the slow movement seemed endless although it was exciting in spots.  It certainly was great to hear it live.  The conductor was S, Bychkov.  It received a poor review from the NY Times critic who complained about sloppy playing and timing problems.  I own the Muti and Plentev (?) versions.  I am still looking for a better recording and understanding version of this great but sprawling work.

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Re: Tchaikovsky's Manfred Symphony
« Reply #81 on: March 12, 2017, 07:03:51 AM »
I rather like Ashkenazy and Chailly, especially Chailly. The Concertgebouw just has the right chops and flair to pull this one off.

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Re: Tchaikovsky's Manfred Symphony
« Reply #82 on: March 12, 2017, 07:53:48 AM »
Kitayenko, Rostropovich, and Svetlanov are wonderful.  Excellent sound and performances.

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Re: Tchaikovsky's Manfred Symphony
« Reply #83 on: March 13, 2017, 08:46:24 AM »
Great to read more thoughts on this work  :)
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Re: Tchaikovsky's Manfred Symphony
« Reply #84 on: March 13, 2017, 12:44:32 PM »
My favourite is still the Svetlanov with the bogus ending (used years ago in a TV dramatisation of Anna Karenina along with Glazunov's 'Finnish Fantasy'). I also still like the Goossens recording with the original ending.
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Re: Tchaikovsky's Manfred Symphony
« Reply #85 on: March 22, 2017, 12:49:15 PM »
I actually heard the Manfred a few weeks ago by the New York Phil. here in NYC.  The audience went wild thinking they had heard a great performance but I felt it dragged in spots and the slow movement seemed endless although it was exciting in spots.  It certainly was great to hear it live.  The conductor was S, Bychkov.  It received a poor review from the NY Times critic who complained about sloppy playing and timing problems.  I own the Muti and Plentev (?) versions.  I am still looking for a better recording and understanding version of this great but sprawling work.

Great to read more thoughts on this work  :)

I have mentioned this earlier, but one of the greatest recordings of it is a version (there is a cut in the finale, which some say is warranted) by Toscanini with the NBC Orchestra:

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/IbPKC2ii9W0&amp;index=2&amp;list=PLAjaJgK3Be--OwoE6LEkAczfScMWep-I9" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/IbPKC2ii9W0&amp;index=2&amp;list=PLAjaJgK3Be--OwoE6LEkAczfScMWep-I9</a>
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Re: Tchaikovsky's Manfred Symphony
« Reply #87 on: March 25, 2017, 02:28:33 AM »
I have mentioned this earlier, but one of the greatest recordings of it is a version (there is a cut in the finale, which some say is warranted) by Toscanini with the NBC Orchestra:

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/IbPKC2ii9W0&amp;index=2&amp;list=PLAjaJgK3Be--OwoE6LEkAczfScMWep-I9" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/IbPKC2ii9W0&amp;index=2&amp;list=PLAjaJgK3Be--OwoE6LEkAczfScMWep-I9</a>

Unfortunately this video is not available to me.
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Re: Tchaikovsky's Manfred Symphony
« Reply #89 on: March 25, 2017, 10:12:28 AM »

I have mentioned this earlier, but one of the greatest recordings of it is a version (there is a cut in the finale, which some say is warranted) by Toscanini with the NBC Orchestra:

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/IbPKC2ii9W0&amp;index=2&amp;list=PLAjaJgK3Be--OwoE6LEkAczfScMWep-I9" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/IbPKC2ii9W0&amp;index=2&amp;list=PLAjaJgK3Be--OwoE6LEkAczfScMWep-I9</a>

Unfortunately this video is not available to me.

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Re: Tchaikovsky's Manfred Symphony
« Reply #90 on: March 25, 2017, 12:21:11 PM »
Strange: no idea about the problem!
Seems like it's just available in the US.
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Re: Tchaikovsky's Manfred Symphony
« Reply #91 on: March 26, 2017, 01:21:46 AM »
Strange: no idea about the problem!

Don't worry, it can be a common enough problem around here. Thanks for posting anyway  :)
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Re: Tchaikovsky's Manfred Symphony
« Reply #92 on: April 16, 2017, 02:43:19 AM »
... Has the main Manfred theme of the symphony ever been used in a film score? Or maybe for a TV series a long time ago? I've got a feeling I've heard it somewhere...

Anyone? I feel so sure I've heard this in a movie a long time ago, but have had no luck searching for what it might be online.
(Or perhaps I'm just going senile  :-\)

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Re: Tchaikovsky's Manfred Symphony
« Reply #93 on: April 16, 2017, 03:14:24 AM »
Unfortunately I cannot help here. Don't worry about the senility though  ;D
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Re: Tchaikovsky's Manfred Symphony
« Reply #94 on: April 21, 2017, 08:07:37 AM »
Hi guys ! Are you aware, there is a new recording of Tchaikovsky's Manfred by V. Petrenko (Royal Liverpool Philharmonic Orchestra).



http://www.naxos.com/feature/Tchaikovsky_Manfred_Symphony_CD.asp

The performance is excellent in my opinion. One of the very best recording of the piece.

Completely agree with this.

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