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Offline Archaic Torso of Apollo

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Re: Bach Goldberg Variations
« Reply #260 on: March 13, 2018, 07:09:55 AM »

Third recording (DHM). Not dissimilar to the second in conception but a bit more independent and expressive voicing and on a more beautiful  harpsichord, better recorded and I think more inspired playing, with more interesting articulation and "textures" This is the best one.

I've been doing some back-&-forth comparative YouTube-ing of Leonhardt III vs. Pinnock. I chose Pinnock as a comparison because his seems to be a well-regarded standard version. While Pinnock is good and solid, I have to say I find Leonhardt III a lot more interesting - there just seems to be "more going on" in the individual variations.

I've seen this Leonhardt described as eccentric by some, or even "perverse." I guess that's what I like about it!
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Re: Bach Goldberg Variations
« Reply #261 on: March 13, 2018, 08:24:26 AM »

I've seen this Leonhardt described as eccentric by some, or even "perverse." I guess that's what I like about it!

I'd be interested to know what the perverse elements are - perverse means persistent in error. Maybe his attitude to repeats was perverse.

Eccentric is also a bit puzzling, If you look at the recordings prior to it, there just is no stylistic centre to deviate from. We had recordings by Landowska, Gould, Verlet, Martins, Kempff, Tureck, Landowska  . . .  this was a time of great freedom and experimentation, more so than today. I think if anything Leonhardt's final recording was instrumental in creating a mainstream of opinion about how to read the score.

I think that Leonhardt plays this music better than Pinnock.
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Re: Bach Goldberg Variations
« Reply #262 on: March 13, 2018, 08:29:47 AM »
I think that Leonhardt plays this music better than Pinnock.

I (might) agree. Pinnock seems a bit blunt, Leonhardt more free and subtle in phrasing. I also prefer the sound of Leonhardt's harpsichord, tho' it's difficult to judge off YouTube.

As for "perverse," that's just one guy's opinion, out there on the Internet. I wouldn't read too much into it.
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Re: Bach Goldberg Variations
« Reply #263 on: June 09, 2018, 03:36:30 PM »
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Re: Bach Goldberg Variations
« Reply #264 on: June 10, 2018, 03:25:16 AM »
I'd be interested to know what the perverse elements are - perverse means persistent in error. Maybe his attitude to repeats was perverse.


Many keyboard players leave out some of the repeats in the GV to make the work fit into one CD. Leonhardt is at least consequent - ooh wait -  as far as I recall, he does one of the repeats in one of the short variations, maybe thinking it would be too short otherwise.

I am convinced, that Leonhardt left out the repeats in the GV and in the EMI English suites and partitas, because he felt a pressure to do variations in the repeats and didn't want to do variations, which might risk to achieve authoritary status, given his central role in the HIP movement.


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Offline Mr. Minnow

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Re: Bach Goldberg Variations
« Reply #265 on: June 17, 2018, 04:07:57 PM »
Any thoughts on this?



There's a very negative review here:

http://culturecatch.com/music/june-2012-classical-review-roundup

On the other hand, a couple of customer reviews on Amazon France are much more positive. I haven't found much else about this one; it seems to have largely flown under the radar.