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Offline sTisTi

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Re: Bach Goldberg Variations
« Reply #140 on: August 05, 2010, 07:45:36 AM »
Now on sale at jpc: Bonizzoni's Goldberg Variations on Glossa:



http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Johann-Sebastian-Bach-Goldberg-Variationen-BWV-988/hnum/3563935

Now for 4.99€  instead of 17.99€ (and only today even free shipping within Germany!)

Does anyone know whether it's any good, even at that price?
The samples sound good enough to me, so maybe I should risk it anyway  :-\

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Re: Bach Goldberg Variations
« Reply #141 on: August 05, 2010, 07:57:01 AM »
Now on sale at jpc: Bonizzoni's Goldberg Variations on Glossa:



http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Johann-Sebastian-Bach-Goldberg-Variationen-BWV-988/hnum/3563935

Now for 4.99€  instead of 17.99€ (and only today even free shipping within Germany!)

Does anyone know whether it's any good, even at that price?
The samples sound good enough to me, so maybe I should risk it anyway  :-\

It's very good, you like the samples and the price is right.  Get it!

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Re: Bach Goldberg Variations
« Reply #142 on: August 08, 2010, 08:45:07 AM »
It's very good, you like the samples and the price is right.  Get it!
Thank you, I've done so. A note for Bonizzoni fans: His disc with late Scarlatti Keyboard Sonatas (also on Glossa) is also available for just 4.99€ right now, I've already ordered it   :)
(http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Domenico-Scarlatti-Klaviersonaten/hnum/4781723)

I've noticed that the number of Goldberg versions I now have is 13. So I guess I'll need to add a 14th soon to avert bad luck ;D

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Re: Bach Goldberg Variations
« Reply #143 on: April 05, 2011, 12:28:05 PM »
BUMP

I was browsing through my 2008 Penguin Guide when I came across something striking: they reward Gould's '55 Goldbergs only 2/4 stars (note that anything below 3/4 is quite rare throughout the book). The review is indeed quite scathing, particularly this part: "There is too much that is wilful and eccentric for this to be a straightforward recommendation, but it is a remarkable performance nevertheless."

For a guide that purports to be authoritative, I must say I find this a little, er, eccentric, considering that a lot of people consider this a great, classic piano recording. For what it's worth, their top recommendation is Rosalyn Tureck's (which I am not familiar with).

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Re: Bach Goldberg Variations
« Reply #144 on: April 05, 2011, 04:46:35 PM »
BUMP

I was browsing through my 2008 Penguin Guide when I came across something striking: they reward Gould's '55 Goldbergs only 2/4 stars (note that anything below 3/4 is quite rare throughout the book). The review is indeed quite scathing, particularly this part: "There is too much that is wilful and eccentric for this to be a straightforward recommendation, but it is a remarkable performance nevertheless."

For a guide that purports to be authoritative, I must say I find this a little, er, eccentric, considering that a lot of people consider this a great, classic piano recording. For what it's worth, their top recommendation is Rosalyn Tureck's (which I am not familiar with).
Both of those assessments (Gould and Tureck) seem right on the mark to me. (Well, depends on which Tureck they picked; the 1989[ish] DG studio recording is my favorite.)
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Re: Bach Goldberg Variations
« Reply #145 on: April 09, 2011, 06:27:49 PM »
Pierre Hantai (Opus 111 and Mirage) and Celine Frisch (alpha) are my favorites so far. Both to me capture the excitement and fun of the Goldbergs and both play harpsichords.

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Re: Bach Goldberg Variations
« Reply #146 on: February 06, 2012, 04:27:18 PM »
I recently acquired this recording and like it quite a lot:



No, not for keyboard, but Fretwork does an admirable job with their arrangements.  I prefer this one to their take on the Art of Fugue.  But YMMV.

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Re: Bach Goldberg Variations
« Reply #147 on: February 06, 2012, 10:04:50 PM »
Pierre Hantai (Opus 111 and Mirage) and Celine Frisch (alpha) are my favorites so far. Both to me capture the excitement and fun of the Goldbergs and both play harpsichords.

I've never heard Hantai's 2003 recording. I like the first record very much. Which one do you prefer? What are the main differences? (Basically I'm asking whether I should buy the second recording, given that I have the first.)
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Re: Bach Goldberg Variations
« Reply #148 on: February 07, 2012, 06:49:55 PM »
I just bought Burkard Schliessmann's two disc SACD version--wonderful playing and sound. It has certainly stirred up utterly opposed opinions!

http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2008/May08/Bach_Goldberg_br100326.htm

http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2008/Apr08/Bach_Goldberg_br100326.htm

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Re: Bach Goldberg Variations
« Reply #149 on: February 15, 2012, 09:56:16 AM »


Thoughts on this recording?

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Re: Bach Goldberg Variations
« Reply #150 on: February 15, 2012, 02:30:42 PM »


Thoughts on this recording?

I haven't heard this one for a few years but remember it as being about in the middle of the pack.  I wouldn't recommend it for those on a tight budget.

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« Reply #151 on: February 15, 2012, 02:34:46 PM »
I've never heard Hantai's 2003 recording. I like the first record very much. Which one do you prefer? What are the main differences? (Basically I'm asking whether I should buy the second recording, given that I have the first.)

I find the major differences between Hantai's two versions to be mood-painting.  Hantai's first version is quite exuberant and upbeat.  The latter version is more introverted and thought provoking.  I prefer the latter version, but the first one is certainly superb as well.  The differences between the two versions is strong enough to warrant owning both.

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Re: Bach Goldberg Variations
« Reply #152 on: February 15, 2012, 02:43:55 PM »
I haven't heard this one for a few years but remember it as being about in the middle of the pack.  I wouldn't recommend it for those on a tight budget.

Thank you.  His Bach Pedal Harpsichord works was excellent, but reviews of his other recordings indicate that they're middle-of-the-road.  I was afraid that this might also fall into that category, too.

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« Reply #153 on: February 15, 2012, 04:02:36 PM »
Thank you.  His Bach Pedal Harpsichord works was excellent, but reviews of his other recordings indicate that they're middle-of-the-road.  I was afraid that this might also fall into that category, too.

Yes, it's interesting how an okay artist can sound so much better when the pedal harpsichord is the instrument of choice.

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Re: Bach Goldberg Variations
« Reply #154 on: February 15, 2012, 04:15:37 PM »
Yes, it's interesting how an okay artist can sound so much better when the pedal harpsichord is the instrument of choice.

Not to mention, he was interpreting organ repertoire rather than harpsichord repertoire on that disc.

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Re: Bach Goldberg Variations
« Reply #155 on: February 15, 2012, 11:42:44 PM »
Is this Blandine Verlet's first record of the Goldberg's -- not on CD AFAIK?

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/X9bpkJd2rNI" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/X9bpkJd2rNI</a>

SHe's a musician I'm exploring right now, I want to hear everything she recorded. She's like a force of nature -- in some ways she reminds me of musicians like Sofronitsky and Jon Vickers and Yudina.
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Re: Bach Goldberg Variations
« Reply #156 on: February 16, 2012, 06:26:38 AM »
I just received Zhu Xiao-Mei's account of the Goldberg, I've heard good things about it. I look forward to listening soon.


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Re: Bach Goldberg Variations
« Reply #157 on: February 17, 2012, 08:48:46 PM »
I have owned the following recording by Jill Crossland for some times and find the performance quite good ...


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Re: Bach Goldberg Variations
« Reply #158 on: February 21, 2012, 09:56:00 AM »
He's a review for the BBC's Building a Library by Nicholas Kenyon:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01bzp53#synopsis

He says at the start the the GVs is one of Bach’s most outgoing works. Later on he makes it clear the variety and exuberance is a main criterion of interpretation He discards introspective approaches like Leonhardt2 and every one by Tureck.

This made the conclusions of the  review of limited interest to me since my tastes are almost the polar opposite.

Shame that Leonhardt 3 isn’t discussed – this is a very distinctive and important one IMO. Also he was too dismissive of Hantai (it’s not even clear whether he was talking about Hantai 1 or Hantai 2)

Very good that he singles out Blandine Verlet for praise especially for the final quarter of the music. She is really special there IMO.

I also thought he was very fair in his comments on  McGregor and Egarr.
 
Also a shame that he didn’t review any Busoni transcriptions, since IMO these are some of the best records on piano.

Interesting that Schiff 1 is given a pivotal position (the recording which made Bach on the piano acceptable again)

The review made me really want to hear Koopman’s (despite the reviewer’s negative feelings about the ornamentation – but I want to judge for myself) Also the taste and description of Lars Ulri  Mortensen’s record makes me want to hear the whole thing. I love the good humoured style of the partitas and the review leads me to look forward to more of the same in the Goldbergs.

On piano, I certainly wouldn’t mind hearing Kempff’s with that strange unornamented aria sounds so quirky that I want to hear the whole thing.

But really the review on piano had some major lacunae, like Schliessmann and Buechner.
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Re: Bach Goldberg Variations
« Reply #159 on: February 21, 2012, 10:22:21 AM »
He's a review for the BBC's Building a Library by Nicholas Kenyon:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01bzp53#synopsis

He says at the start the the GVs is one of Bach’s most outgoing works. Later on he makes it clear the variety and exuberance is a main criterion of interpretation He discards introspective approaches like Leonhardt2 and every one by Tureck.

This made the conclusions of the  review of limited interest to me since my tastes are almost the polar opposite.

The Goldbergs well handle both an exuberant and introspective approach.  Any reviewer who discards either of them isn't worth much.