Author Topic: The Worst First!  (Read 27912 times)

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m_gigena

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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2007, 01:23:56 PM »
I must say that I remain in entire ignorance of Gounod's First . . . .

Now you also know there's at least a second.






EDIT: That being said, I'll check Amazon.com to order Debussy's second rhapsody for clarinet.
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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2007, 01:25:50 PM »
Mozart.  8)
We audiophiles don't really like music, but we sure love the sound it makes

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« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2007, 01:26:46 PM »
Now you also know there's at least a second.

Yikes, and five recordings of each available at Arkivmusic.com!


Quote from: Manuel
EDIT: That being said, I'll check Amazon.com to order Debussy's second rhapsody for clarinet.

That is a lovely, lovely piece.

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« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2007, 01:27:14 PM »
Mozart.  8)

Aw, give an 11-year-old a break!  8)

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« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2007, 01:27:37 PM »
Mozart.  8)

Mozart Sym 1 is cute .......

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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2007, 01:28:15 PM »
I must say that I remain in entire ignorance of Gounod's First . . . .
You're not missing anything of substance. :-\
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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2007, 01:28:49 PM »
Aw, give an 11-year-old a break!  8)

He was 8

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« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2007, 01:29:37 PM »
Woops.

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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #28 on: December 11, 2007, 01:31:19 PM »
I don't know any truly awful first symphonies by significant composers, but Ives' and Carter's first symphonies are certainly unrepresentative of their mature style.

I confess to finding Scriabin's first symphony a total bore, so I'll nominate it.
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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #29 on: December 11, 2007, 01:40:57 PM »
I confess to finding Scriabin's first symphony a total bore, so I'll nominate it.

And yet, that first movement is so lovely. He ought to have stopped there, perhaps...  ;D

And does anyone truly like Rachmaninov's First?

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« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2007, 01:42:39 PM »
And does anyone truly like Rachmaninov's First?

I should give that a listen . . . .

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« Reply #31 on: December 11, 2007, 01:43:34 PM »
I must say that I remain in entire ignorance of Gounod's First . . . .
somehow that seems like a blessing
(me too)

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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #32 on: December 11, 2007, 01:43:53 PM »
And does anyone truly like Rachmaninov's First?

Of course!

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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #33 on: December 11, 2007, 01:44:09 PM »
I should give that a listen . . . .

It's truly tragic... in multiple ways.

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« Reply #34 on: December 11, 2007, 01:45:12 PM »
Rachmaninov's first was a total flop (but, as we all know, that happened at the premiere of many, many good works)

Personally, I can't sit through the finale of Dvorak's first. I get too annoyed.

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« Reply #35 on: December 11, 2007, 01:45:35 PM »
It's truly tragic... in multiple ways.

And it's in D Minor ......

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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #36 on: December 11, 2007, 01:46:52 PM »
And it's in D Minor ......

That's the least of its tragedies.  :)

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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #37 on: December 11, 2007, 01:52:18 PM »
The Rach is always awesome, even when he's awry: the First is repetitious and is full of preening adolescent Todesangst mixed with 20-something tragedy.

But I don't mind!    0:)

And should we wonder about C.M. von Weber, Mendelssohn, and Wagner in this topic?
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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #38 on: December 11, 2007, 01:55:40 PM »
...And does anyone truly like Rachmaninov's First?
YES!!  It's intense and atmospheric, and the ending is a great musical tragic catharsis, almost on a Mahlerian level.
And should we wonder about C.M. von Weber, Mendelssohn, and Wagner in this topic?
I've heard them all, and none of them are at all in the running for "wurst." ;) Weber's is theatrical and dramatic in the best senses; Mendelssohn's is lots of fun and beautifully crafted, like all his other music; and Wagner's, while by no means his best work, has some real substance.  (Always IMHO.)
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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #39 on: December 11, 2007, 01:56:21 PM »
And should we wonder about C.M. von Weber, Mendelssohn, and Wagner in this topic?

No.  Well, you can.

 

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