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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #11760 on: February 22, 2018, 06:07:15 AM »
I think you have to learn performance style all over again with each new piece, because you can't perform any two pieces in the exact same way, and certainly you can't perform the music of different time periods in exactly the same way (even on a modern instrument).

Other successful modern keyboard players who also developed a HIP style would include Alexei Lubimov & Peter Serkin.
...also Brautigam.

Yes, I agree with that, performing the music of different periods in the same style is something that has always bothered me. You hear it in all sorts of instrumental combinations including full orchestra. This is exactly what sent me over the HIP cliff 25 years ago!

I didn't know Lubimov as a modern pianist, nor do I really know Serkin as a PI player. I'll have to see what I can find by him.

Yes, Brautigam too. IIRC, I have a Mendelssohn concertos disk by him on modern piano (??).

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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #11761 on: February 22, 2018, 06:16:07 AM »
Yes, Brautigam too. IIRC, I have a Mendelssohn concertos disk by him on modern piano (??).

He recorded the complete Songs without Words on a 2010 Paul McNulty copy of a 1830 Pleyel



and Rachmaninoff's complete preludes on a presumably modern piano (no details are offered in the booklet)

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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #11762 on: February 22, 2018, 06:38:21 AM »
Those SWW's look interesting. This is the one I was talking about though, they are careful to always call it a piano, no forte involved anywhere. It is a Fazioli, which I know nothing about.



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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #11763 on: February 22, 2018, 06:43:45 AM »
That looks quite interesting, actually.

Go figure, Brautigam also recorded Schnittke and Shostakovich.  :)
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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #11764 on: February 22, 2018, 06:47:22 AM »
That looks quite interesting, actually.

Go figure, Brautigam also recorded Schittke and Shostakovich.  :)

Ouch!  Please: Schnittke, Schnittke.
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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #11765 on: February 22, 2018, 06:50:49 AM »
Ouch!  Please: Schnittke, Schnittke.

Typo, Karl, just a typo.
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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #11766 on: February 22, 2018, 06:53:12 AM »


What a fantastic hair has always had Brautigam!  :D
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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #11767 on: February 22, 2018, 06:53:43 AM »
Typo, Karl, just a typo.

Oh, I know.

But, an unfortunate one  0:)
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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #11768 on: February 22, 2018, 06:54:06 AM »
What a fantastic hair has always had Brautigam!  :D

Indeedie.
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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #11769 on: February 22, 2018, 06:54:41 AM »
Oh, I know.

But, an unfortunate one  0:)

Corrected.
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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #11770 on: February 22, 2018, 06:57:36 AM »
I thank thee.
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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #11771 on: February 22, 2018, 06:59:05 AM »
Jörg Demus, an old glory, and almost an exact contemporary of Badura-Skoda, should mentioned too.  :)
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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #11772 on: February 22, 2018, 07:19:48 AM »
Jörg Demus, an old glory, and almost an exact contemporary of Badura-Skoda, should mentioned too.  :)

Yes, absolutely. One of my favorite disks of the last couple of years (2011, but I just got it last year) is JD and PBS playing Mozart 4-hand. Just 2 really old guys, playing with the best of them!



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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #11773 on: February 22, 2018, 07:43:35 AM »
and Rachmaninoff's complete preludes on a presumably modern piano (no details are offered in the booklet)



27 preludes? That's really complete.  ;D

I did some googling and found another (likely correct) image:

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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #11774 on: February 22, 2018, 07:46:29 AM »
27 preludes? That's really complete.  ;D

I did some googling and found another (likely correct) image:



Hah! I hadn't noticed that.  :D
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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #11775 on: February 22, 2018, 09:20:24 AM »
27 preludes? That's really complete.  ;D

I did some googling and found another (likely correct) image:



Not to too far afield, but Rachmaninoff did in fact write 27 preludes
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_compositions_by_Sergei_Rachmaninoff

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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #11776 on: February 22, 2018, 12:51:12 PM »
Not to too far afield, but Rachmaninoff did in fact write 27 preludes
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_compositions_by_Sergei_Rachmaninoff

The Brautigam disc has only 24, though: op. 3 no. 2, op. 23 and op. 32. At least my copy has. Now this is a mistery: could there be a release with the same cover which has all 27 of them?  ???

EDIT: Yes, a Google search show this to be the case. There are actually two different releases with the same cover, one supercomplete with all 27, one with only 24.
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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #11777 on: February 23, 2018, 04:31:25 AM »
EDIT: Yes, a Google search show this to be the case. There are actually two different releases with the same cover, one supercomplete with all 27, one with only 24.

Thanks; I rather suspected so  :)
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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #11778 on: February 23, 2018, 02:40:41 PM »
IMO this is fantastic, even if you're an incorruptible PI fan (are you there, Gurn? :)

<a href="https://youtu.be/PulffEOx1W4" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://youtu.be/PulffEOx1W4</a>

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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #11779 on: February 23, 2018, 02:54:59 PM »
IMO this is fantastic, even if you're an incorruptible PI fan (are you there, Gurn? :)

<a href="https://youtu.be/PulffEOx1W4" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://youtu.be/PulffEOx1W4</a>

Good try, Mr. Herreweghe. What a finding is miss Hecker!  8)

Wonderful playing! I have never heard of her before, which is no surprise, but maybe will hear more one day. :)

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