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Re: Shostakovich Symphonies, Cycles & Otherwise
« Reply #1500 on: March 09, 2018, 02:50:16 PM »
Kondrashin's coupling of No 9 and The Execution of Stepan Razin is probably my favourite Shostakovich album. I first heard it over 40 years ago but couldn't afford to buy it at the time and it has slipped on and off my radar for years. I finally bought a near mint LP online a couple of years ago at a very reasonable price. I also bought the Melodiya/Gozman recording of No 14 from the same source - fine performance but also complete with texts. One drawback with the Barshai cycle is the complete absence of texts.

+ 1 . One of the very best single issues of Shostakovich ever issued (had it on lp, now have it in the cd box set). Among ‘orphan releases’ I also treasure Boult’s LPO 6th (Everest) and Ormandy’s 15th (RCA).

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« Reply #1501 on: March 09, 2018, 04:41:37 PM »
Among ‘orphan releases’ I also treasure Boult’s LPO 6th (Everest) and Ormandy’s 15th (RCA).

Yeah, those are both great. I've got the Boult coupled with another fine "orphan," Malcolm Sargent's 9th.
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Re: Shostakovich Symphonies, Cycles & Otherwise
« Reply #1502 on: March 09, 2018, 05:16:42 PM »
Nothing beats this!



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Re: Shostakovich Symphonies, Cycles & Otherwise
« Reply #1503 on: March 09, 2018, 05:29:40 PM »
I have Mrawinsky’s 15th and it’s indeed excellent. But it must yield pride of place to Ormandy  0:)

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Re: Shostakovich Symphonies, Cycles & Otherwise
« Reply #1504 on: March 10, 2018, 01:48:27 AM »
I've seen the Leningrad PO in action, with Rozhdestvensky waving the stick.  'Well-drilled' would be apt, but an understatement. 

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« Reply #1505 on: March 10, 2018, 02:31:29 AM »
Ageist!  8)

Well - Petrenko was born after DSCH died and would have been about 15 at the time of the dissolution of the USSR.  I question whether he can really have stored up enough angst and bile  :D 

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Since you suggest that you will only consider a Russian conductor, I'll go ahead and mention one of my favorite cycles:  Maksim Shostakovich.

Well the question was about cycles, and really it's more that I'm not a cycles person - there are at least 5, probably 7, DSCH symphonies that don't interest me at all.  (And I would say similar of almost any composer.)  So the recordings I know are all as a result of le cherry-picking (a word that appears to have newly entered the French vocabulary  ;)).  I do rather like Caetani - he does at least have a direct connection back to Mravinsky, is my excuse for that.  But I also like (in contrast) Wigglesworth, and I guess he is about as westernised as you can get - and maybe the best-recorded that I've heard.  But neither of those is bargain price.

Confession time, the truth is, surveying my collection of the 8 symphonies I do like, and my favoured versions of them, only one Soviet-era conductor figures - Svetlanov (10th).  Sanderling (15th) and De Priest (11th) come close, I suppose.  Ormandy (1st) of course did collaborate with the composer.  I still favour Previn for the 5th!  ???   And yes, Kondrashin for that 9th/Stepan Razin issue, outstanding.

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« Reply #1506 on: March 10, 2018, 03:01:46 AM »
If one requires that kind of cultural connection in order to perform music, one is going to be in serious trouble finding a Beethoven recording that meets such criteria.
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« Reply #1507 on: March 10, 2018, 03:08:26 AM »
+ 1 . One of the very best single issues of Shostakovich ever issued (had it on lp, now have it in the cd box set). Among ‘orphan releases’ I also treasure Boult’s LPO 6th (Everest) and Ormandy’s 15th (RCA).

The Kondrashin version of "Stenka Razin" has never been bettered I think.  An important work too but one that rather lives in the shadow of Babi Yar.  Odd that it has not had more/better recordings.  The recent Paavo Jarvi is the best I've heard of the newer/digital recordings

but I rather like the old Phillips East German performance too


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« Reply #1508 on: March 10, 2018, 03:22:03 AM »
The recent Paavo Jarvi is the best I've heard of the newer/digital recordings


Isn't this the one where they didn't include the texts because of issues with people being upset?
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« Reply #1509 on: March 10, 2018, 03:32:51 AM »
I do rather like Caetani - he does at least have a direct connection back to Mravinsky, is my excuse for that.

What connection?

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« Reply #1510 on: July 27, 2018, 03:40:54 PM »
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/shostakovich-symphony-no-5/1377649478

This is a very beautiful performance of Shostakovich No. 5.  But for me, I prefer intensity over beauty for this work.  For example, the bass trombone is very muted in the first movement which should really be forceful.  This certainly isn't a bad performance, just slightly tame for a war symphony.  Much more intensity would serve this interpretation well. The final movement is very good but I found the first movement less intense, the scherzo was lethargic, the largo was too quick and lacking intensity.  The finale was good and precise.

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Re: Shostakovich Symphonies, Cycles & Otherwise
« Reply #1511 on: July 28, 2018, 03:30:50 AM »
What connection?

Oleg Caetani is the son of Igor Markevitch.  Who was also a Russian conductor with a name starts with an M?

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Re: Shostakovich Symphonies, Cycles & Otherwise
« Reply #1512 on: July 28, 2018, 12:44:40 PM »
Hah!  My bad  :-[