Author Topic: Georges Enescu  (Read 24560 times)

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Re: Georges Enescu
« Reply #60 on: June 05, 2011, 07:57:59 PM »
Feeling OK, Snyprrr?  ;D :o

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Re: Georges Enescu
« Reply #61 on: June 05, 2011, 08:04:03 PM »
So, what are Enescu's best pieces?

All I have is the VS3, which is wowzy zowzy,... and the aforementioned Piano Quartet No.2 I heard.

Guido makes the CSs sound good,... I'm thinking of CSs by Ginastera for some reason??


I remember hearing the famous Octet, though, and wondering what all the fuss what about. Obviously we need to get to the bottom of this Composer!

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« Reply #62 on: June 05, 2011, 08:13:12 PM »
I have the Arte Nova box, which I haven't listened to for a while but which didn't make a very positive impression. I recall the sound being mostly quite distant and reverberant, which wouldn't have helped. Can anyone give a direct comparison with the other recordings of the symphonies and suites?

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Re: Georges Enescu
« Reply #63 on: June 06, 2011, 02:57:02 AM »
'Distant and reverberant'? Not sure I like the 'sound' of that. I must say the Olympia performances sounded pretty good to me,with the benefit of authenticity. I only sold them because I was a bit hard up at the time. I suppose they're deleted and expensive now. Herrenberg appears happy with them and I get the feeling he's usually a pretty good judge.
Wait a minute. Are the Arte Nova cd's reissues of the Olympia recordings?

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Re: Georges Enescu
« Reply #64 on: June 06, 2011, 04:25:34 PM »
Wait a minute. Are the Arte Nova cd's reissues of the Olympia recordings?

No.
 

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Re: Georges Enescu
« Reply #65 on: June 06, 2011, 11:26:29 PM »
The (very good) Andreescu performances are on a label called Electrecord. But I got the symphonies in digital form from a friend...


http://www.cduniverse.com/sresult.asp?style=music&HT_Search=xlabel&HT_Search_Info=Electrecord

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Re: Georges Enescu
« Reply #66 on: August 26, 2011, 10:22:47 AM »
(More egg on my face! Enescu should have definately been on my 'list!') I have never heard the First Symphony. Which recording should be at the top of my list? The Arte Nova cd's are very good VFM,but would I be better off shelling out a little more for,say,the Chandos cd?

Well, I have the 2-CD set that was recommended at the beginning of this thread - a review from MusicWeb HERE - cannot personally make any 'comparison' comments having not hear the others.




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Re: Georges Enescu
« Reply #67 on: August 26, 2011, 10:45:11 AM »
Well, I've not added to my Enescu collection in a while, but a 'new' arrival shown below:

Piano Quartets 1 & 2 w/ the Tammuz Piano Quartet (Oliver Triendl on piano) (recorded 2008 & 09) - composed about 35 yrs apart (1909 & 1944) but both serious and virtuosic works clocking in at 65+ minutes.  My purchase was prompted by an excellent review by Jerry Dubins in Fanfare, reprinted HERE - his bottom line was a candidate for the 2011 Want List!  Scott Morrison on his Amazon review left a 4*/5* review HERE, not liking the earlier work as much.  The music indeed is serious in both works but George E. not only one of the most famous violinists of his time was also a superb piano playing - obvious from these recordings.

Also as expected from CPO, superb sound & liner notes - another great quote (a few I left a couple of pages ago) mentioned from his pupil Menuhin ".. reports that during a lesson with Enescu, Maurice Ravel arrived with his freshly composed Violin Sonata.  After reading through the piece on sight, Enescu put the music aside and played it from memory."  Continually amazed by the genius of this human being -  :)



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Re: Georges Enescu
« Reply #68 on: August 26, 2011, 07:50:16 PM »
Well, I've not added to my Enescu collection in a while, but a 'new' arrival shown below:

Piano Quartets 1 & 2 w/ the Tammuz Piano Quartet (Oliver Triendl on piano) (recorded 2008 & 09) - composed about 35 yrs apart (1909 & 1944) but both serious and virtuosic works clocking in at 65+ minutes.  My purchase was prompted by an excellent review by Jerry Dubins in Fanfare, reprinted HERE - his bottom line was a candidate for the 2011 Want List!  Scott Morrison on his Amazon review left a 4*/5* review HERE, not liking the earlier work as much.  The music indeed is serious in both works but George E. not only one of the most famous violinists of his time was also a superb piano playing - obvious from these recordings.

Also as expected from CPO, superb sound & liner notes - another great quote (a few I left a couple of pages ago) mentioned from his pupil Menuhin ".. reports that during a lesson with Enescu, Maurice Ravel arrived with his freshly composed Violin Sonata.  After reading through the piece on sight, Enescu put the music aside and played it from memory."  Continually amazed by the genius of this human being -  :)




Tell me about No.2. I heard some esoteric movement on YouTube that had harmonic sleights of hand that were sheer misty rocks.

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Re: Georges Enescu
« Reply #69 on: August 27, 2011, 05:09:26 AM »
Tell me about No.2. I heard some esoteric movement on YouTube that had harmonic sleights of hand that were sheer misty rocks.

Hi Snyprrr - well, I can't do much better than Dubins & Morrison - did you check out my links?  Scott's 2nd paragraph is quite descriptive; he also recommends a Naxos recording (check HERE) w/ the Piano Quartet No.2/Piano Quintet w/ further discussion (some of the other comments might be of interest).  Dave :)

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« Reply #70 on: August 27, 2011, 05:44:51 AM »
Hi Snyprrr - well, I can't do much better than Dubins & Morrison - did you check out my links?  Scott's 2nd paragraph is quite descriptive; he also recommends a Naxos recording (check HERE) w/ the Piano Quartet No.2/Piano Quintet w/ further discussion (some of the other comments might be of interest).  Dave :)

That last one you mentioned, that's the one I'd like to try.

I was just listening to VS 3, the famous one. Wow, you will most certainly OD on the gypsy thing here, haha. All that ornamentation is pretty 'OldWorld' sounding,... I like it, but it iS very rich!

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Re: Georges Enescu
« Reply #71 on: June 02, 2012, 07:40:03 PM »
Interestingly, a new Enescu orchestral cycle begins:



Am I the only one looking forward to it?
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Re: Georges Enescu
« Reply #72 on: June 02, 2012, 07:47:21 PM »
Interestingly, a new Enescu orchestral cycle begins:



Am I the only one looking forward to it?

No, I'll be getting it also.

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Re: Georges Enescu
« Reply #73 on: June 05, 2012, 02:04:12 PM »
I don't suppose anybody would know if the new Ondine series will include the Pascal Bentoiu completions of the fourth and fifth symphonies?

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Re: Georges Enescu
« Reply #74 on: June 05, 2012, 06:05:12 PM »
I don't suppose anybody would know if the new Ondine series will include the Pascal Bentoiu completions of the fourth and fifth symphonies?

Highly unlikely, Brian, but, then again, Ondine has been known to pull a few surprises out of its hat from time to time. I just hope we get a better performance of Poème Roumain. I wasn't too fond of the performance on Arte Nova. It was serviceable, but so much more could be done with it.
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« Reply #75 on: August 22, 2013, 05:40:10 PM »
I don't suppose anybody would know if the new Ondine series will include the Pascal Bentoiu completions of the fourth and fifth symphonies?

Sorry I didn't respond to your post earlier, Brian. Yes, I, too hope Ondine records those Bentoiu completions as well his four Study Symphonies. Olympia recorded the first and fourth Study Symphonies and I found the latter to be a very fine work with nothing "academic" or juvenilia" about it. In case you weren't aware, the completions of nos. 4 and 5 (which I haven't listened to yet, for some reason) can be found on YouTube, but, of course, they're no replacement for a CD recording.

P.S. Just curious, are you BrianA from the Art-Music Forum? Forgive me if you're not. :)

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« Reply #76 on: August 23, 2013, 03:24:15 AM »
I am he, Kyle, like you a hopeless addict just looking to get my musical fix wherever and when ever I can.  I do indeed have downloaded performances of the Bentoiu completions of nos 4 & 5, but as per another discussion on AMF I am seldom able to pass up the opportunity of replacing a downloaded performance, however good, with a decent studio performance.  I think I've read somewhere recently that one of the unrecorded student symphonies may in fact be lost?

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« Reply #77 on: August 23, 2013, 05:58:04 AM »
I am he, Kyle, like you a hopeless addict just looking to get my musical fix wherever and when ever I can.  I do indeed have downloaded performances of the Bentoiu completions of nos 4 & 5, but as per another discussion on AMF I am seldom able to pass up the opportunity of replacing a downloaded performance, however good, with a decent studio performance.  I think I've read somewhere recently that one of the unrecorded student symphonies may in fact be lost?

Good to see you here, Brian. :) Yes, the Second and Third Study Symphonies may very well be lost, but I don't have any confirmation of that. We could definitely still use modern recordings of nos. 1 and 4, though!

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Re: Georges Enescu
« Reply #78 on: September 27, 2013, 03:01:51 PM »
Due out soon from Ondine:



Should be interesting to hear another take on the masterful Symphony no. 3.

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Re: Georges Enescu
« Reply #79 on: September 27, 2013, 10:57:46 PM »
Yes, the Second and Third Study Symphonies may very well be lost, but I don't have any confirmation of that. We could definitely still use modern recordings of nos. 1 and 4, though!

According to this excellent and comprehensive biography by Alain Cophignon (in French) http://www.fayard.fr/georges-enesco-9782213623214 study symphonies 2 is known by several fragments and it seems that symphony 3 exists but it is not analysed in detail in the book. A lot of work is still needed to make available the many unknown works by this extraordinary master of the 20th century.
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