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Re: The unimportant news thread
« Reply #2560 on: January 12, 2018, 10:15:17 AM »
Even Trump should be quoted accurately. The not their best remark was about those applying in the lottery.

Not true. Trump made no reference to the immigration lottery when he made that remark in his campaign announcement.

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When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. And now they are beating us economically. They are not our friend, believe me. But they’re killing us economically.

The U.S. has become a dumping ground for everybody else’s problems.

Thank you. It’s true, and these are the best and the finest. When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting. And it only makes common sense. It only makes common sense. They’re sending us not the right people.

It’s coming from more than Mexico. It’s coming from all over South and Latin America, and it’s coming probably— probably— from the Middle East. But we don’t know. Because we have no protection and we have no competence, we don’t know what’s happening. And it’s got to stop and it’s got to stop fast.

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Re: The unimportant news thread
« Reply #2561 on: January 12, 2018, 10:55:50 AM »
Not true. Trump made no reference to the immigration lottery when he made that remark in his campaign announcement.

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https://historymusings.wordpress.com/2015/06/16/full-text-campaign-buzz-2016-june-16-2015-donald-trumps-presidential-announcement-speech-transcript/

The problem with that is the Mahlerian was referring to African immigrants. And Trump *did* say something about not the best that would apply to Africans, but in *that* case it referred to the lottery. So Mahlerian was indeed quoting Trump inaccurately.
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« Reply #2562 on: January 12, 2018, 11:17:27 AM »
The whole "Haiti is a shithole" thing is particularly telling given that Haiti is a country created by a slave revolution, which the US refused to have any relations with or allow any Haitians entry until the 1860s because they feared Haitians would incite revolts among American slaves, and which only won international recognition by taking out loans to pay back the slaveholders for their lost property, and then when they couldn't pay back the loans the US invaded Haiti in order to seize its financial reserves.... and later on the US backed a brutal dictator who essentially destroyed Haiti's wealth because of its own geopolitical interests in the Caribbean.... so when Trump claims Haiti is a shithole, guess who played the biggest role in making Haiti an awful place to live for the past 200 years.

Naomi Klein has talked about how the US is doing something similar in Puerto Rico (she calls it the shock doctrine) with the end goal of essentially depopulating the island in order to drive land values down and turn it into a tax haven/free market paradise/upmarket vacation home island for the wealthy. Estimates are that more than 300,000 Puerto Ricans have migrated to the mainland US since September, which is about ten percent of the entire population of the island. If the US still occupied Haiti it would probably be doing the same thing there.

True about Haiti, but unless Klein thinks the US government controls hurricanes, her speculation is more fantasy than anything else.  And in the interim, those three hundred thousand emigrants are immediately eligible to vote, which means Florida might get much bluer by the November election.

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Re: The unimportant news thread
« Reply #2563 on: January 12, 2018, 12:42:38 PM »
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Re: The unimportant news thread
« Reply #2564 on: January 15, 2018, 11:46:13 AM »
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Re: The unimportant news thread
« Reply #2565 on: January 15, 2018, 11:50:56 AM »
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Re: The unimportant news thread
« Reply #2568 on: January 16, 2018, 04:13:17 AM »
Oh, my . . . .
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« Reply #2571 on: January 16, 2018, 12:35:11 PM »
Oh, lawd:

(“Oregon’s weather is uniquely adverse”— i.e., it rains there.)


Oregon's state government is controlled by Dems, and Dems being Dems, the change mostly affects parts of the state that receive little rain.  Of course, many service stations in low population counties don't have modern pumps that accept point of service payment, so implementation will take years.  All in all, it's about as good a law as one can expect from the Oregon legislature. 
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Re: The unimportant news thread
« Reply #2572 on: January 16, 2018, 12:40:56 PM »
I was just having a debate on another site. A normally sensible Brit complaining bout those who stand on escalators. Everyone should stand on escalators! At least in crowded condidtions. (The fundamental reason is that laminar flow beats turbulent flow, and the only achievable laminar flow is everyone stands.)

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/04/us/escalators-standing-or-walking.html
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« Reply #2573 on: January 16, 2018, 12:45:49 PM »
Comedy News Network HLN's Ashleigh Banfield, doing her part to keep public discourse elevated: "The only sentence a guy like that [Aziz Ansari] deserves is a bad case of blue balls..."
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Re: The unimportant news thread
« Reply #2574 on: January 16, 2018, 05:08:23 PM »
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Re: The unimportant news thread
« Reply #2576 on: January 18, 2018, 10:16:57 AM »
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Re: The unimportant news thread
« Reply #2577 on: January 19, 2018, 01:54:57 AM »
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Re: The unimportant news thread
« Reply #2578 on: January 19, 2018, 02:49:36 AM »
True about Haiti, but unless Klein thinks the US government controls hurricanes, her speculation is more fantasy than anything else.  And in the interim, those three hundred thousand emigrants are immediately eligible to vote, which means Florida might get much bluer by the November election.

Not unless the Haitians have short memories for how the Clinton Foundation screwed them.
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Re: The unimportant news thread
« Reply #2579 on: January 19, 2018, 03:03:52 PM »
Not unless the Haitians have short memories for how the Clinton Foundation screwed them.

? How could the Clinton Foundation have "screwed" them?