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Offline 12tone.

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Thout it was K, now it's KV?
« on: May 11, 2008, 12:37:50 PM »
I thought before when either you guys or on places like Amazon.com refered to works by Mozart the works' catalogue number was listed as 'K'.  Now everything seems to say 'KV'  ???  What's going on?

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Re: Thout it was K, now it's KV?
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2008, 12:44:46 PM »
KV = Køchel Verzeichnis (?) = Køchel Catalogue

BWV = Bach Werke Verzeichnis, etc

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Re: Thout it was K, now it's KV?
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2008, 12:47:24 PM »
I don't think I get it...

So K is the English way and KV is German?

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Re: Thout it was K, now it's KV?
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2008, 12:48:14 PM »
I thought before when either you guys or on places like Amazon.com refered to works by Mozart the works' catalogue number was listed as 'K'.  Now everything seems to say 'KV'  ???  What's going on?

The Köchel-Verzeichnis is a complete, chronological catalogue of compositions by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart (born 1756) which was originally created by Ludwig von Köchel. It is abbreviated K or KV.

And if I may add something: "K" is usually used in English, but in German "KV" is used.

EDIT:

So K is the English way and KV is German?

So, yes.

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Re: Thout it was K, now it's KV?
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2008, 12:51:24 PM »
Thanks Que!   :)

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Re: Thout it was K, now it's KV?
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2008, 12:04:23 PM »
Sometimes, after works of Ives, you also see a KV number. In this case, the abbreviation stands for Kirkpatrick verzeichnis!

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Re: Thout it was K, now it's KV?
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2008, 11:11:01 PM »
And isn't there a catalogue of Domenico Scarlatti's works that also begin with a K? I ask this because in a CD I have there is a K number and an L number.
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Re: Thout it was K, now it's KV?
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2008, 07:35:55 AM »
And isn't there a catalogue of Domenico Scarlatti's works that also begin with a K? I ask this because in a CD I have there is a K number and an L number.

Yep.  K = Kirkpatrick, L = Longo.  Here's a page that gives the #s for both systems, plus a third (P = Pestelli):

http://www.karadar.com/Cataloghi/scarlatti_domenico.html

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Re: Thout it was K, now it's KV?
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2008, 07:36:02 AM »
Does it really matter if it's K or KV?

Hell, why not K-Tel, or KY?  :D

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Re: Thout it was K, now it's KV?
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2008, 07:41:18 AM »
Thanks for the link, Wendell_E. :)
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Re: Thout it was K, now it's KV?
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2008, 08:21:28 AM »
Does it really matter if it's K or KV?

Hell, why not K-Tel, or KY?  :D

True, it could be any letter or combination.  What matters is that folks connect the letter(s) with the right composer.  I would be very confused if Mozart was all of a sudden BWV.