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Offline zenpmd

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Chopin Nocturnes in best possible audio quality
« on: May 26, 2015, 12:55:17 PM »
I bought Nelson Freire and while I like the playing there is too much background hiss for a modern recording. If I want audiophile perfection, what do I shoot for?

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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2015, 01:27:47 PM »
Probably Kazune Shimizu or Masako Ezaki on Triton.  I've not heard either, but everything I've heard from Triton is in SOTA sound.

Of the sets I have heard, Yukio Yokoyama on Sony is probably in the best sound.  Of course, I have no issues with the Freire set, so I'm not exactly sure what it is you are listening for.
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« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2015, 04:06:11 AM »
How about Maria Tipo's set on EMI? 1994, DDD.

Performance-wise, I don't like Freire's nocturnes at all. And I have tried numerous times to get into them. 
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« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2015, 04:35:28 AM »
Aldo Ciccolini on Cascavelle is nicely recorded, to best of my recollection.
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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2015, 04:41:20 AM »
Aldo Ciccolini on Cascavelle is nicely recorded, to best of my recollection.

Agreed. Nice performances, too. Unfortunately, it appears to be out of print. 
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« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2015, 08:20:39 AM »
I bought Nelson Freire and while I like the playing there is too much background hiss for a modern recording. If I want audiophile perfection, what do I shoot for?

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Well there's more to a good recording than absence of hiss. Try Moravec. On my hifi - Quad valve amp and electrostatics, some American DA converter that cost an arm and a leg -  it sounds well balanced, truthful.
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« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2015, 08:59:18 AM »
Well there's more to a good recording that absence of hiss. Try Moravec. On my hifi - Quad valve amp and electrostatics, some American DA converter that cost an arm and a leg -  it sounds well balanced, truthful.

I think Arrau's sound and performance are better.
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« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2015, 09:35:38 AM »
I'd opt for the classic Morevec performances from the 60s, on the Supraphon remastered cds.

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« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2015, 11:06:49 AM »
Now I am very curious to hear the Freire: I want to know what background hiss in a 2010 recording sounds like.

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« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2015, 11:16:36 AM »
Now I am very curious to hear the Freire: I want to know what background hiss in a 2010 recording sounds like.

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Re: Chopin Nocturnes in best possible audio quality
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2015, 11:26:25 AM »
I bought Nelson Freire and while I like the playing there is too much background hiss for a modern recording. If I want audiophile perfection, what do I shoot for?

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If you want less hiss, I'd shoot the snake. The sound of the Freire is more than fine to me.
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« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2015, 11:27:57 AM »
Now I am very curious to hear the Freire: I want to know what background hiss in a 2010 recording sounds like.


I cannot recall hearing any hiss.  Occasionally, with some smaller label recordings, I will hear some low-level hiss in even new-ish recordings, indicating the use of analog somewhere in the chain, but it is rare, and I can't recall hearing hiss in any Decca recording recorded after about 1980.  The sound for the Freire Nocturnes is superb.  (The performances are flawless in their own way, but they don't float my boat.)  Slightly better sound is available based on my experience. 
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« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2015, 12:08:27 PM »
Maybe the OP was listening to poor mp3, there is no hiss on the CD or on the spotify stream that I can hear.

This is a bad way to find out you've got a problem with your playback equipment.

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« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2015, 02:04:14 PM »
I cannot recall hearing any hiss.  Occasionally, with some smaller label recordings, I will hear some low-level hiss in even new-ish recordings, indicating the use of analog somewhere in the chain, but it is rare, and I can't recall hearing hiss in any Decca recording recorded after about 1980.  The sound for the Freire Nocturnes is superb.  (The performances are flawless in their own way, but they don't float my boat.)  Slightly better sound is available based on my experience.

I appreciate this response, even though my post was largely tongue-in-cheek. Hiss is very low on the list of things I care about. I don't think I've ever noticed it in a digital recording. Even on older recordings where it's plainly audible, my ears usually adjust after a few seconds.

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« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2015, 10:41:08 PM »
Get yourself a decent turntable, arm, and cartridge and buy a clean copy of the Maryla Jonas LPs on Columbia (ca late 1940s - early 1950s!!). You will be amazed at how natural and present these old monos sound. Then, in addition to incredible sound quality you'll also have some of the best performances these works have ever enjoyed.


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« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2015, 02:28:43 AM »
I appreciate this response, even though my post was largely tongue-in-cheek. Hiss is very low on the list of things I care about. I don't think I've ever noticed it in a digital recording. Even on older recordings where it's plainly audible, my ears usually adjust after a few seconds.

Yes, my ears adjust remarkably quick to hiss.

My understanding is that the hiss is due to the analog tape, and that with digital recordings there should be no hiss at all.
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Chopin Nocturnes in best possible audio quality
« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2015, 02:58:57 AM »
Arguably, Daniel Barenboim / Maria-Joao-Pires / Maurizio Pollini

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