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« Reply #3700 on: February 12, 2012, 05:36:15 PM »
I think the issue of drug-taking is underestimated in psychological studies. Unless you actually confine someone, you can't be sure that their schizophrenic symptoms aren't the result of just being stoned all the time :)

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« Reply #3701 on: February 12, 2012, 05:46:46 PM »
I think the issue of drug-taking is underestimated in psychological studies. Unless you actually confine someone, you can't be sure that their schizophrenic symptoms aren't the result of just being stoned all the time :)

Unfortunately it was prescribed drugs in my case. No fun at all! :(
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« Reply #3702 on: February 12, 2012, 06:26:39 PM »
Interestingly they diagnosed me with that once before realising it was the drugs and just leaving it as Schizotypal (they had me down for both). :)

Depersonalisation is, well, bizarre. One of the clearest experiences I had of it was having a conversation with another person and feeling like someone else was controlling my half of the conversation. That was strange.
I'm confused about the discussion on this first paragraph, but the second one... is it anything similar to when you work too hard too long and you feel like your mind is completely gone, or is it specifically like someone else is controlling you?



Out of curiousity, I did a test:
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Paranoid   34%   49%
Schizoid   90%    53%
Schizotypal   58%   53%
Antisocial  38%   47%
Borderline  54%   47%
Histrionic  30%    43%
Narcissistic  62%   41%
Avoidant  34%   39%
Dependent  14%   37%
Obsessive-Compulsive  54%   40%
left=mine right=average

hmmm.... well, here's the link for that. Kinda interesting:
http://similarminds.com/cgi-bin/newpd.pl

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« Reply #3703 on: February 12, 2012, 06:43:26 PM »
I'm confused about the discussion on this first paragraph, but the second one... is it anything similar to when you work too hard too long and you feel like your mind is completely gone, or is it specifically like someone else is controlling you?

Not really, it was for me more like observing my own voice coming from between me and the other person and hearing it this way in my right ear. It was very disconcerting. But it didn't feel like an out of body experience in that I didn't have a sensation of being outside my body or anything like that.



Out of curiousity, I did a test:left=mine right=average

hmmm.... well, here's the link for that. Kinda interesting:
http://similarminds.com/cgi-bin/newpd.pl



Quote
Paranoid      82%   49%
Schizoid      58%   53%
Schizotypal   74%   53%
Antisocial      46%   47%
Borderline   54%   47%
Histrionic     62%   43%
Narcissistic   30%   41%
Avoidant      50%   39%
Dependent   66%   37%
Obsessive-Compulsive   38%   40%

I be odd. :)

But these online tests are very, very unreliable though.
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« Reply #3704 on: February 12, 2012, 07:12:03 PM »
Not really, it was for me more like observing my own voice coming from between me and the other person and hearing it this way in my right ear. It was very disconcerting. But it didn't feel like an out of body experience in that I didn't have a sensation of being outside my body or anything like that.
Yep, that's something I've never experienced before.
Actually, the weirdest thing I've experienced WILD (wake induced lucid dreaming). Observing stuff like your body going into sleep paralysis or your mind going from a waking state to a dreaming state and stuff- not sure you can get much weirder than that without drugs. But that's another story.



But these online tests are very, very unreliable though.
I suppose they can be, but they are entertaining, at least.

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« Reply #3705 on: February 13, 2012, 02:57:32 AM »
 Quote from: Greg on February 12, 2012, 11:12:03 PM
I suppose they can be, but they are entertaining, at least.
 
I think you've got the verb modes reversed: they are unreliable, but they can be entertaining, at least ; )
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« Reply #3706 on: February 13, 2012, 03:15:05 AM »
Just curious, Karl: did you post the above from a hand-held device?
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« Reply #3707 on: February 13, 2012, 03:30:08 AM »
Just curious, Karl: did you post the above from a hand-held device?

No, Nav, that one was from a computer.

This one, though, from a Droid.
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« Reply #3708 on: February 13, 2012, 04:51:59 AM »
Interesting how the quotes work differently between the two media . . . .
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« Reply #3709 on: February 13, 2012, 04:53:03 AM »
Rumor has it... Adele swept the grammys.  This is cool because she is cool, and 21 is my favorite album of the year. :)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/at-grammys-musicians-honor-each-other--and-salute-houston/2012/02/12/gIQA0Lyj9Q_story.html

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« Reply #3710 on: February 13, 2012, 05:09:01 AM »
No, Nav, that one was from a computer.

This one, though, from a Droid.

Danke. I've seen the different 'quote formats' from two computers, on different browsers. I thought it was the (side-)effect of TapaTalk.
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« Reply #3711 on: February 13, 2012, 05:11:43 AM »
Might be; I am using Tapatalk on the Droid. (I mean, generally; right now I'm posting from a computer.)
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« Reply #3712 on: February 13, 2012, 05:22:51 AM »
>walked 45 mins into town to catch bus to work
>left bus pass at home
>didn't have enough money in wallet
>no cash-point nearby
>walked 45 mins back home

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Re: The Chat Thread
« Reply #3713 on: February 13, 2012, 09:41:36 AM »
1 hour's sleep, 7 hours awake, 1 hour asleep, 2 hours psychotherapy interview, 8 hours of child minding. This was my night and day today. :/

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« Reply #3714 on: February 13, 2012, 09:56:09 AM »
Oh, look! A new post to the thread! Must be somebody posting how he actually prefers something other than the thread topic!  How interesting!
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« Reply #3715 on: February 13, 2012, 10:09:30 AM »
Apologies.
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« Reply #3716 on: February 13, 2012, 10:11:30 AM »
What is the thread topic?
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« Reply #3717 on: February 13, 2012, 10:16:50 AM »
Apologies.

Karl is not attacking you.  He is passive-aggressively attacking MI for his post on the Bullwinkle thread. :)

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« Reply #3718 on: February 13, 2012, 10:35:06 AM »
 Quote from: nesf on Today at 02:09:30 PM
Apologies.
 
What Davey said. I was just chatting . . . .
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« Reply #3719 on: February 13, 2012, 01:30:06 PM »
Oh, look! A new post to the thread! Must be somebody posting how he actually prefers something other than the thread topic!  How interesting!

I believe the curious case of Socrates can shed light on this phenomenon. Apparently one day he suggested a thread topic (in the Athenian Forum, I guess) and then asked all the wisest men in Athens to post a response using their computers. Turns out that everyone posted about something other than the thread topic, and that's how he realised he was actually himself the wisest man in Athens because he was the only one who didn't have a computer. Of course he never realised what amazing CD bargains* he was missing, but that's another story.

I may have got the details of this wrong here and there, but I'm pretty sure the gist of it is right.



*Of course in those olden days it would have been vinyl LPs.
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