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Re: Prokofiev's Paddy Wagon
« Reply #40 on: April 15, 2007, 02:55:43 PM »
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I haven't heard much Prokofiev but he is definitely one to explore. He has a bit Elgarian qualities in his music. I guess his symphonies are good.
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Re: Prokofiev's Paddy Wagon
« Reply #41 on: April 15, 2007, 03:25:51 PM »


I haven't heard much Prokofiev but he is definitely one to explore. He has a bit Elgarian qualities in his music.

No he doesn't. Stop it already will you ? Not every great composer has an Elgarian quality, especially Prokofiev. Prokofiev's music is about simplicity, wit, clarity, and unrelenting drive and rhythm. His music is angular and provacative. Whatever merits might be in Elgar's music, none of them are in Prokofiev's.

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Re: Prokofiev's Paddy Wagon
« Reply #42 on: April 15, 2007, 03:48:24 PM »
No he doesn't. Stop it already will you ? Not every great composer has an Elgarian quality, especially Prokofiev. Prokofiev's music is about simplicity, wit, clarity, and unrelenting drive and rhythm. His music is angular and provacative. Whatever merits might be in Elgar's music, none of them are in Prokofiev's.

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Re: Prokofiev's Paddy Wagon
« Reply #43 on: April 15, 2007, 04:37:36 PM »
No he doesn't. Stop it already will you ? Not every great composer has an Elgarian quality, especially Prokofiev. Prokofiev's music is about simplicity, wit, clarity, and unrelenting drive and rhythm. His music is angular and provacative. Whatever merits might be in Elgar's music, none of them are in Prokofiev's.

Can't say I've ever made the connection either.  Were you thinking of something in particular?

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Re: Prokofiev's Paddy Wagon
« Reply #44 on: April 15, 2007, 04:55:24 PM »
What he said...

Can't say I've ever made the connection either.  Were you thinking of something in particular?

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Re: Prokofiev's Paddy Wagon
« Reply #45 on: April 16, 2007, 12:58:19 PM »
"Single greatest Prokofiev work" would be a futile exercise, of course.

But some days, that's just how I feel about the F Minor Violin Sonata. And I can't fight this feeling anymore . . . .

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Re: Prokofiev's Paddy Wagon
« Reply #46 on: April 17, 2007, 08:06:42 AM »
"Single greatest Prokofiev work" would be a futile exercise, of course.

But some days, that's just how I feel about the F Minor Violin Sonata. And I can't fight this feeling anymore . . . .
uh-oh! Karl is going to surrender to saying that he has a favorite!  :o
no way, i never thought he had a favorite anything.......
now hell's gonna freeze over! it's the apocalypse!

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Re: Prokofiev's Paddy Wagon
« Reply #47 on: April 17, 2007, 09:10:04 AM »
uh-oh! Karl is going to surrender to saying that he has a favorite!  :o
no way, i never thought he had a favorite anything.......
now hell's gonna freeze over! it's the apocalypse!

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Re: Prokofiev's Paddy Wagon
« Reply #48 on: April 17, 2007, 09:14:03 AM »
"Single greatest Prokofiev work" would be a futile exercise, of course.

But some days, that's just how I feel about the F Minor Violin Sonata. And I can't fight this feeling anymore . . . .

I agree with this one. :)

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Re: Prokofiev's Paddy Wagon
« Reply #49 on: April 17, 2007, 09:21:27 AM »
it's the apocalypse!

Thank goodness for Standard Disclaimers  0:)

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Re: Prokofiev's Paddy Wagon
« Reply #50 on: April 17, 2007, 10:11:44 AM »
Call me crazy, but I love the D Major Violin Sonata more.  I just love that piece..................but both are sublime.

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Re: Prokofiev's Paddy Wagon
« Reply #51 on: April 18, 2007, 08:36:47 AM »
Call me crazy, but I love the D Major Violin Sonata more.  I just love that piece..................but both are sublime.
i guess it's cuz you're the only non-gothic here then  >:D  ;)

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Re: Prokofiev's Paddy Wagon
« Reply #52 on: April 18, 2007, 09:36:53 AM »
i guess it's cuz you're the only non-gothic here then  >:D  ;)

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Re: Prokofiev's Paddy Wagon
« Reply #53 on: April 18, 2007, 09:41:29 AM »
Run...........................its the debil! :P
in that case, no need to run since he'll already be weak enough to knock out with a single blow  ;)

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Re: Prokofiev's Paddy Wagon
« Reply #54 on: April 18, 2007, 11:22:12 AM »
Danny, I don't think it is at all crazy to prefer the D Major Sonata  0:)

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Re: Prokofiev's Paddy Wagon
« Reply #55 on: April 19, 2007, 05:24:48 AM »
Danny, I don't think it is at all crazy to prefer the D Major Sonata  0:)
me neither, and i was just kidding about the gothic thing  ;D
but still the F Minor Sonata does have a sort of dark charm to it- they did play it at his funeral. Maybe they should've played it at Stalin's, too- wait........

what did they actually play at Stalin's funeral? They shoulda played something like Joy to the World, the 2nd movement of Shostakovich's 10th, or maybe Peter and the Wolf. That last one would be completely bizarre.

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Re: Prokofiev's Paddy Wagon
« Reply #56 on: April 19, 2007, 10:32:20 AM »
Danny, I don't think it is at all crazy to prefer the D Major Sonata  0:)

Amen to that!  Its one of my favorite pieces by any composer.   0:)   0:)   0:)

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Re: Prokofiev's Paddy Wagon
« Reply #57 on: April 19, 2007, 10:33:58 AM »
me neither, and i was just kidding about the gothic thing  ;D
but still the F Minor Sonata does have a sort of dark charm to it- they did play it at his funeral. Maybe they should've played it at Stalin's, too- wait........

what did they actually play at Stalin's funeral? They shoulda played something like Joy to the World, the 2nd movement of Shostakovich's 10th, or maybe Peter and the Wolf. That last one would be completely bizarre.

I hear the second movement to Shosty's Tenth was supposed to represent Stalinism. 

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Re: Prokofiev's Paddy Wagon
« Reply #58 on: April 20, 2007, 05:46:15 AM »
I hear the second movement to Shosty's Tenth was supposed to represent Stalinism. 
exactly, that's why i mentioned it  ;)

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Re: Prokofiev's Paddy Wagon
« Reply #59 on: April 20, 2007, 07:19:36 AM »
That's what Volkov said . . . and (surprise, surprise) that remark has gotten a lot of play.

I have a hard time believing that the brilliant, blistering second movement is, simply, "a portrait of Stalin."

For only one thing, how does the movement end?  With a triumphant major chord.  What does that mean?  The triumph of Stalin?  Oh. maybe not, maybe not . . .

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