Author Topic: Alberic Magnard(1865-1914)  (Read 17710 times)

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Re: Alberic Magnard(1865-1914)
« Reply #80 on: January 16, 2016, 09:42:56 AM »
Thanks mszczuj and Camphy.

From a quick search it seems that the Timpani set, that CPO release and the Quatuor YSaye discs are the only easy ways to acquire some of this stuff, lot of out of print items otherwise.

On to the wishlist they go.

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« Reply #81 on: January 26, 2017, 07:50:39 PM »
This composer is magnificent. It's a real shame that he died relatively 'young', he had great gifts in composition. I think the 4th symphony is his best orchestral work. I'm playing 'Hymne à la Justice', it has a heroic rush that generates some tension (which I love). Also I have listened to the String Quartet in E minor: elegant and somewhat elegiac. I think Magnard knew how to express sad feelings in music very effectively.

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« Reply #82 on: January 27, 2017, 12:20:08 AM »
This composer is magnificent. It's a real shame that he died relatively 'young', he had great gifts in composition. I think the 4th symphony is his best orchestral work. I'm playing 'Hymne à la Justice', it has a heroic rush that generates some tension (which I love). Also I have listened to the String Quartet in E minor: elegant and somewhat elegiac. I think Magnard knew how to express sad feelings in music very effectively.
I agree - the Fourth and Third symphonies and Chant Funebre are my favourite works by Magnard. I often find his work moving.
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Re: Alberic Magnard(1865-1914)
« Reply #83 on: January 27, 2017, 02:26:20 AM »
Anyone who loves Magnard's music can count on my gratitude. Ever since hearing the Ansermet Third, Magnard is among the greats for me. His music has tenderness and severity. I love all of his orchestral music, but the Chant funèbre, the Hymne à la Justice and the Third and Fourth symphonies rank highest in my estimation.
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« Reply #84 on: January 27, 2017, 02:55:00 AM »
Anyone who loves Magnard's music can count on my gratitude. Ever since hearing the Ansermet Third, Magnard is among the greats for me. His music has tenderness and severity. I love all of his orchestral music, but the Chant funèbre, the Hymne à la Justice and the Third and Fourth symphonies rank highest in my estimation.
Ansermet's Third is a wonderful performance - only discovered it recently:

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« Reply #85 on: May 13, 2018, 07:07:19 PM »
Just discovered Magnard's 4th Symphony (Sanderling recording on BIS) and have been utterly blown away by it! Like other compositions of his, it sounds unlike no-one else and its style is difficult to describe, with grand, quasi-Brucknerian paragraphs alongside fresh, unhackneyed imitations of folk music. It's all held together by Magnard's masterly and unique sense of harmony and orchestration. I found the ending, with its awesomely majestic chorale dying away into tranquility, to be particularly moving. Magnard's 3rd Symphony is often thought of as his finest but I prefer the 4th overall.
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« Reply #86 on: May 14, 2018, 07:31:29 PM »
Just discovered Magnard's 4th Symphony (Sanderling recording on BIS) and have been utterly blown away by it! Like other compositions of his, it sounds unlike no-one else and its style is difficult to describe, with grand, quasi-Brucknerian paragraphs alongside fresh, unhackneyed imitations of folk music. It's all held together by Magnard's masterly and unique sense of harmony and orchestration. I found the ending, with its awesomely majestic chorale dying away into tranquility, to be particularly moving. Magnard's 3rd Symphony is often thought of as his finest but I prefer the 4th overall.

The 4th is also my favorite. I think it's the most eloquent and profound among the 4. Magnard was reaching a more developed style with this work. I have the recording by Ossonce and BBC Scottish S.O. (Hyperion). A great performance too.

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« Reply #87 on: May 14, 2018, 07:47:45 PM »
The 4th is a great symphony. I like the 3rd just as much, though. But as a musical edifice, the 4th is stronger and more cogent. I think Ossonce is better in the final movement. The sense of heroic desperation, of only just getting safely on the other side of the abyss is more compellingly communicated.
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« Reply #88 on: May 14, 2018, 08:11:44 PM »
The 4th is a great symphony. I like the 3rd just as much, though. But as a musical edifice, the 4th is stronger and more cogent. I think Ossonce is better in the final movement. The sense of heroic desperation, of only just getting safely on the other side of the abyss is more compellingly communicated.

Interesting. What about the rendition under Plasson? I'm not familiar with that performance yet.

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« Reply #89 on: May 14, 2018, 08:20:32 PM »
Neither am I. It's on YouTube. All the reviews agree that it was superseded by the Sanderling and Ossonce recordings. Still, worth a try!
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Re: Alberic Magnard(1865-1914)
« Reply #90 on: May 14, 2018, 09:35:53 PM »
I'm loyal to the Plasson, which has a special quality to it. I have his boxed set of the symphonies.mmaybe I'm influenced by my first encounter with Magnard which was with Plasson's LP of Symphony 4 on EMI coupled with the moving 'Chant Funebre' - a wonderful LP. No.4 is my favourite but No.3 is excellent as well and I like Ansermet's recording (see above).
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« Reply #91 on: May 15, 2018, 08:42:38 AM »
I very much like the opening of the 3rd symphony (so austere and mysterious!) as well as the middle two movements, but I found the finale to be a bit of a let-down. Also deserving of praise is the dramatic Hymne à la justice, with its thrillingly impetuous opening.
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« Reply #92 on: May 15, 2018, 09:58:49 AM »
I very much like the opening of the 3rd symphony (so austere and mysterious!) as well as the middle two movements, but I found the finale to be a bit of a let-down. Also deserving of praise is the dramatic Hymne à la justice, with its thrillingly impetuous opening.
We think alike... The finale of No. 3 is the weakest of the lot. That's why I said No. 4 is more cogent. And that Hymn to Justice is terrific.
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