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Re: Stravinsky Has Ruined Ravel for Me
« Reply #240 on: June 21, 2017, 07:23:44 AM »
Yeah, well I will ruin Ravel for you if you don't ***** *****  because you'll ***** ***** back to the Xenakis thread this instant!

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Re: Ravel's Rotunda
« Reply #241 on: June 21, 2017, 08:15:59 AM »
i  just recently discovered the Piano Concerto for Left Hand. What a mind-blowingly work, pitting the left hand of the piano against a very large orchestra. I swear if you don't know the work and just listen to it you will never know it is for the left hand alone. The contrabasson solo at the beginning sounds like it is from some primordial bowel of the earth and not from a musical instrument.

Anyway I rather like this performance here. Miss Wang's steely left fingers displaying some pyrotechnics !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbEtk1kdYx4

My favorite however is this classic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Sxpi0zybzA

(And how is it that Ravel only has 12 pages in this thread?)


I agree. It's Ravel at his most direct, urgent self. Yet his bittersweet harmonies and orchestrational brilliance still shine through. I'll take the first 5 minutes of that work over almost anything.

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Re: Stravinsky Has Ruined Ravel for Me
« Reply #242 on: July 03, 2017, 08:28:44 AM »
This Alien is contemplating a mass invasion of Snyprrr land. Our race will take all your Stravinsky CDs off you and deport you back to HOME  ;)

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Re: Ravel's Rotunda
« Reply #243 on: August 11, 2017, 02:17:50 AM »
I concur, he's my favorite post-baroque composer at the moment for some reason.
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Serious Question About Ravel's Violin Sonata: Blues
« Reply #244 on: November 29, 2017, 09:01:48 PM »
I really have some stylistic issues with Ravel's... Masterpiece. On one hand, it's as refined and cosmopolitan and...hip as anything from the last forty years, but I also feel that Ravel is trying to hard, or maybe the technology wasn't in place yet for better notation, or...

or maybe it's genius.

SO, HERE'S MY QUESTION: In the 'Blues' middle movement, there is a section where the violin plays these jaunty chords, and the piano just doesn't seem to be in the same... tempo,... or,... but,... I've listened to a couple of reliable sources, and I guess it's in the score, though I can't read it very well.

What's going on here? It's sounds terrible to me...
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Re: Ravel's Rotunda
« Reply #245 on: February 11, 2018, 08:18:12 AM »
Quite a wonderful mini-documentary:

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/oFxySK-GePM" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/oFxySK-GePM</a>
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Re: Serious Question About Ravel's Violin Sonata: Blues
« Reply #246 on: February 11, 2018, 08:21:51 AM »
I really have some stylistic issues with Ravel's... Masterpiece. On one hand, it's as refined and cosmopolitan and...hip as anything from the last forty years, but I also feel that Ravel is trying to hard, or maybe the technology wasn't in place yet for better notation, or...

or maybe it's genius.

SO, HERE'S MY QUESTION: In the 'Blues' middle movement, there is a section where the violin plays these jaunty chords, and the piano just doesn't seem to be in the same... tempo,... or,... but,... I've listened to a couple of reliable sources, and I guess it's in the score, though I can't read it very well.

What's going on here? It's sounds terrible to me...

I didn't know Daphnis et Chloé had a "Blues" middle movement...and I'm sure it doesn't call for a piano.

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Re: Serious Question About Ravel's Violin Sonata: Blues
« Reply #247 on: February 11, 2018, 08:53:17 AM »
I really have some stylistic issues with Ravel's... Masterpiece. On one hand, it's as refined and cosmopolitan and...hip as anything from the last forty years, but I also feel that Ravel is trying to hard, or maybe the technology wasn't in place yet for better notation, or...

or maybe it's genius.

SO, HERE'S MY QUESTION: In the 'Blues' middle movement, there is a section where the violin plays these jaunty chords, and the piano just doesn't seem to be in the same... tempo,... or,... but,... I've listened to a couple of reliable sources, and I guess it's in the score, though I can't read it very well.

What's going on here? It's sounds terrible to me...

Well, the Violin Sonata isn’t Ravel’s only masterpiece. To make the assertion that it is doesn’t seem like a fair judgment on your part. What about works like the String Quartet, Miroirs, Gaspard de la nuit, the Piano Trio, Le tombeau de Couperin, Jeux d’eau, L'enfant et les sortilèges, Chansons madécasses, the piano concerti, Daphnis et Chloé, or Shéhérazade? These works certainly more than hold up to the idea of a ‘masterpiece’.

Oh and there’s nothing wrong with the Violin Sonata or the way it was constructed. That’s just your ears failing to make a connection.
« Last Edit: February 11, 2018, 08:55:30 AM by Mirror Image »
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Re: Ravel's Rotunda
« Reply #248 on: February 12, 2018, 02:20:29 PM »
Quite a wonderful mini-documentary:

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/oFxySK-GePM" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/oFxySK-GePM</a>

Has anyone seen this? It’s great!
« Last Edit: February 12, 2018, 02:26:21 PM by Mirror Image »
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