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Offline JoshLilly

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Carl Reinecke
« on: May 18, 2007, 10:39:38 AM »
I'm not the biggest Reinecke fan in the world, which is odd considering how much of his music I have. I guess I keep coming back because I mildly like a lot of it, and I kept hoping for something to really grab me. I started with the Undine Sonata (for flute and piano), which seems to be his most popular work... I just didn't really like it that much. I didn't dislike it either. That ended up being something I felt for other things of his, like the Flute Concerto, a serenade for strings, some chamber music.

I like all three of his symphonies. I like the harp concerto quite a bit. I really like the Piano Concerto #3. Up until a couple of weeks ago, it was far and away my favourite work of Reinecke's. But I'm making this thread since a new cpo CD came out recently with his Violin Concerto in G minor, Op.141. I think it's his second Violin Concerto, but not sure what happened to the first. As far as I know, this is the first CD to come out with either of them on it. Finally, Reinecke blew me away. I love this thing. Based on my Internet hunting, it looks like a lot of non-Reinecke fans are won over by this piece.

Anyway, maybe Reinecke deserves a fresh chance, and a fresh thread. Sorry if I'm not supposed to create such one, please delete it if this is inappropriate.

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Re: Carl Reinecke
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2007, 10:58:31 AM »
Anyway, maybe Reinecke deserves a fresh chance, and a fresh thread. Sorry if I'm not supposed to create such one, please delete it if this is inappropriate.

You are encouraged to create threads on whatever topic(s) interest you, and this is certainly appropriate!  :D

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Re: Carl Reinecke
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2007, 10:59:33 AM »
I'm not familiar with this composer but a 'harp concerto' certainly sounds interesting. Is there any 'definitive' recording(s)?

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Re: Carl Reinecke
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2007, 11:19:22 AM »
Unfortunately, I only know of one. Luckily, it's on Naxos, so the price isn't a killer! You can check out some 1 minute sound samples: http://tinyurl.com/yrxqw6

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Re: Carl Reinecke
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2007, 05:49:55 PM »
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Anyway, maybe Reinecke deserves a fresh chance, and a fresh thread. Sorry if I'm not supposed to create such one, please delete it if this is inappropriate.

Josh - I'm not sure if you're trying to start a Reinecke thread or to discourage one?  ::)  But for those who may be interested in this composer, check out this SHORT THREAD in the old forum (actually started by me!  :o) - appears that Harry & I were the only contributors; but there are pics of a half dozen or so CDs of this composer's work; Harry did not seem to like the Naxos disc, but this might be worth further posting!

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Re: Carl Reinecke
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2007, 08:07:30 AM »
There are a few works by Reinecke that a lot more people might enjoy, if they were familiar with them: Piano Concerto #3, Violin Concerto in G minor, Symphonies 2&3. The 2nd and 3rd symphonies are on a great disc from the Chandos label, with Howard Shelley conducting the Tasmanian Symphony Orchestra. I'd never heard that orchestra before, but they do a great job here, and as always, Chandos has excellent sound quality. As for the symphonies themselves, I revisted them recently after my wonderful experience with the G minor Violin Concerto. I really like them both, more than I remembered. I used to hear the first movement of the 3rd symphony in my head, and couldn't remember what it was! It's always a relief when you finally hear that piece that you couldn't place. Both of them have very attractive themes and nice emotional impact.

On that Naxos CD, I was lured by price and that I wanted that Harp Concerto. I've found a couple of other recordings of it, but never heard them. I wasn't that disappointed with it, but then, I have nothing with which to compare it. Which of the others is best?

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Re: Carl Reinecke
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2007, 05:48:45 AM »
I know what you mean.

A sort of Mendelssohn composed by Brahms or is it Brahms composed by Mendelssohn.

His works wend there sweet way along to there  affable endings and always sounds like the composer looks.

I'm not knocking him, just a tad puzzled but I will persevere as better men than me, Gunga Din, seem to "rate" him.

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Re: Carl Reinecke
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2008, 08:35:59 AM »
A piano roll made by Reinecke of Beethoven's Ecossaise in E-Flat. It's interesting that Reinecke was already about 3 years old before Beethoven even died. I doubt there is any other recording of any sort of Beethoven music made by someone who was alive while Beethoven was. Also, keep in mind that Reinecke was past 80 when he made this!

http://www.reinfrank.plus.com/music/ecossaise.mp3

Over the past year, I've grown somewhat obsessed with Reinecke. I'd have to say he's among my favourite composers these days.
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Re: Carl Reinecke
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2008, 11:27:35 AM »
Reinecke is a very good composer, and the Chandos cd with the symphonies is on its way to me!
Thanks for reminding me.
I had it before but lost if during a internal re shifting of my boxes. ;D

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Re: Carl Reinecke
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2008, 11:29:51 AM »
I had it before but lost if during a internal re shifting of my boxes. ;D

Did that hurt, Harry?

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Re: Carl Reinecke
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2008, 07:17:44 PM »
The Flute concerto didn't really grab me either, but he's certainly a figure to return to.

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Re: Carl Reinecke
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2008, 10:12:09 PM »
Did that hurt, Harry?
The theme of disappearing CDs is interesting; I've had a few CDs probably misplaced in the wrong box, never to be seen again. I always hope for them to unexpectedly pop up when I open an album, but no....my collection is too large.

The one argument for ripping to hard disc I think.

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Re: Carl Reinecke
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2017, 08:51:55 AM »
Of the handful of pieces by Reinecke I have heard, the most interesting for me are the trios with winds and piano: oboe, horn, piano and clarinet, horn, piano. There is another one for the "Kegelstatt" ensemble clarinet, viola, piano that is also good but a not quite as colorful and varied. I'll probably try the symphonies on Chandos at some stage.
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