Author Topic: Mieczysław Weinberg (1919-1996)  (Read 52648 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline kyjo

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 1352
  • Kurt Atterberg (1887-1974)
  • Location: United States
Re: Mieczysław Weinberg (1919-1996)
« Reply #400 on: October 18, 2017, 04:45:11 PM »
Anyone else here an admirer of Weinberg's Symphony no. 3 (recorded by Chandos)? It's decidedly more Romantic in feel than most of his music that I've heard. I love the magical opening - it reminds me of an updated version of the opening of Tchaikovsky's Symphony no. 1. If I recall correctly, the ending of the first movement is reprised at the end of the work - a spellbinding moment.

https://youtu.be/MonyQhLY0Qo

« Last Edit: October 18, 2017, 04:49:47 PM by kyjo »
"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is not enough for music" - Sergei Rachmaninoff

Offline Mirror Image

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 44277
  • Bohuslav Martinů (1890 - 1959)
  • Location: Northeast GA, US
  • Currently Listening to:
    The Opening of the Wells on Magic Nights
Re: Mieczysław Weinberg (1919-1996)
« Reply #401 on: October 18, 2017, 06:32:23 PM »
It’s a fantastic symphony, Kyle. Love it! I’d say my favorite Weinberg symphony, however, is the 5th.
“It must be beautiful, or it wouldn't be worth the effort.” - Bohuslav Martinů

Offline SurprisedByBeauty

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 1973
  • Back. Hello!
    • Surprised by Beauty
  • Currently Listening to:
    anything from Monteverdi to Widmann and well beyond in either direction and everything in the middle!
Re: Mieczysław Weinberg (1919-1996)
« Reply #402 on: October 28, 2017, 04:17:24 AM »


A new challenger to Linus Roth on Challenge in the VC.

Offline relm1

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 709
  • Location: California
Re: Mieczysław Weinberg (1919-1996)
« Reply #403 on: October 28, 2017, 04:43:46 PM »
Anyone else here an admirer of Weinberg's Symphony no. 3 (recorded by Chandos)? It's decidedly more Romantic in feel than most of his music that I've heard. I love the magical opening - it reminds me of an updated version of the opening of Tchaikovsky's Symphony no. 1. If I recall correctly, the ending of the first movement is reprised at the end of the work - a spellbinding moment.

https://youtu.be/MonyQhLY0Qo



I hadn't heard this symphony before but that was gorgeous!  Thanks for recommending. 

Offline kyjo

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 1352
  • Kurt Atterberg (1887-1974)
  • Location: United States
Re: Mieczysław Weinberg (1919-1996)
« Reply #404 on: October 28, 2017, 09:13:56 PM »
I hadn't heard this symphony before but that was gorgeous!  Thanks for recommending.

 :)
"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is not enough for music" - Sergei Rachmaninoff

Offline vandermolen

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 11707
  • Location: Rotherfield, Sussex, UK
Re: Mieczysław Weinberg (1919-1996)
« Reply #405 on: October 29, 2017, 01:14:49 AM »
Anyone else here an admirer of Weinberg's Symphony no. 3 (recorded by Chandos)? It's decidedly more Romantic in feel than most of his music that I've heard. I love the magical opening - it reminds me of an updated version of the opening of Tchaikovsky's Symphony no. 1. If I recall correctly, the ending of the first movement is reprised at the end of the work - a spellbinding moment.

https://youtu.be/MonyQhLY0Qo



Yes,yes,yes - great work! (Symphony 3). I also like symphonies 1,5 (his masterpiece I think) and 6 as well as the eloquent Piano Quintet.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).


Baron Scarpia

  • Guest
Re: Mieczysław Weinberg (1919-1996)
« Reply #407 on: April 17, 2018, 01:19:04 AM »
Yes,yes,yes - great work! (Symphony 3). I also like symphonies 1,5 (his masterpiece I think) and 6 as well as the eloquent Piano Quintet.

Fantatic. And the Ballet is also a very fine work. The only irritation, relatively short program on that CD.

Offline PaulR

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 2484
Re: Mieczysław Weinberg (1919-1996)
« Reply #408 on: May 15, 2018, 05:37:23 PM »
Weinberg's Solo Double Bass Sonata Op. 108 will be performed at Tanglewood this summer by Edwin Barker.  Might have to see that...

Offline k a rl h e nn i ng

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 50733
  • Et quid amabo nisi quod ænigma est?
    • Henningmusick
  • Location: Boston, Mass.
  • Currently Listening to:
    Shostakovich, Frescobaldi, Stravinsky, JS Bach, Liszt, Chopin, Haydn, Henning
Re: Mieczysław Weinberg (1919-1996)
« Reply #409 on: May 16, 2018, 12:07:26 AM »
Trés cool.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Offline kyjo

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 1352
  • Kurt Atterberg (1887-1974)
  • Location: United States
Re: Mieczysław Weinberg (1919-1996)
« Reply #410 on: May 16, 2018, 07:40:17 AM »
If we were to start a thread on “creepiest openings”, that of Weinberg’s 5th Symphony would surely be a prime candidate!
"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is not enough for music" - Sergei Rachmaninoff

Offline vandermolen

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 11707
  • Location: Rotherfield, Sussex, UK
Re: Mieczysław Weinberg (1919-1996)
« Reply #411 on: May 16, 2018, 08:00:03 AM »
If we were to start a thread on “creepiest openings”, that of Weinberg’s 5th Symphony would surely be a prime candidate!

I love that opening - and the closing for that matter. I think that it's the only symphony, along with Popov's First Symphony I know which bears comparison with Shostakovich's cataclysmic 4th Symphony.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

Offline Maestro267

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 1387
  • Location: Wales
Re: Mieczysław Weinberg (1919-1996)
« Reply #412 on: May 17, 2018, 08:41:30 AM »
I love that opening - and the closing for that matter. I think that it's the only symphony, along with Popov's First Symphony I know which bears comparison with Shostakovich's cataclysmic 4th Symphony.

Well that's got my attention right away!

Offline vandermolen

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 11707
  • Location: Rotherfield, Sussex, UK
Re: Mieczysław Weinberg (1919-1996)
« Reply #413 on: May 17, 2018, 08:48:56 AM »
Well that's got my attention right away!

Oh, it's a fine work which you should hear if you don't know it.

Just listened to his Piano Quintet which I think is one of his greatest works (Olympia).
« Last Edit: May 17, 2018, 10:12:10 AM by vandermolen »
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

Offline Mirror Image

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 44277
  • Bohuslav Martinů (1890 - 1959)
  • Location: Northeast GA, US
  • Currently Listening to:
    The Opening of the Wells on Magic Nights
Re: Mieczysław Weinberg (1919-1996)
« Reply #414 on: May 17, 2018, 07:23:06 PM »
I love that opening - and the closing for that matter. I think that it's the only symphony, along with Popov's First Symphony I know which bears comparison with Shostakovich's cataclysmic 4th Symphony.

Don’t tell anyone this, but...[in whispering voice] I like Weinberg’s 5th better than Shostakovich’s 4th. There...I feel better now. ;)
“It must be beautiful, or it wouldn't be worth the effort.” - Bohuslav Martinů

Offline vandermolen

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 11707
  • Location: Rotherfield, Sussex, UK
Re: Mieczysław Weinberg (1919-1996)
« Reply #415 on: May 17, 2018, 08:17:56 PM »
Don’t tell anyone this, but...[in whispering voice] I like Weinberg’s 5th better than Shostakovich’s 4th. There...I feel better now. ;)

Haha - and why not?
Popov's 1st is pretty sensational as well.
I like the Weinberg just as much as both of them.
 :)
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

Offline Mirror Image

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 44277
  • Bohuslav Martinů (1890 - 1959)
  • Location: Northeast GA, US
  • Currently Listening to:
    The Opening of the Wells on Magic Nights
Re: Mieczysław Weinberg (1919-1996)
« Reply #416 on: May 18, 2018, 04:22:18 AM »
Haha - and why not?
Popov's 1st is pretty sensational as well.
I like the Weinberg just as much as both of them.
 :)

For me, the slow movement (Adagio sostenuto) from Weinberg’s 5th is enough to catapult this symphony into the hierarchy of greatest Soviet Russian symphonies. This movement haunts me for days after hearing it, so I have to be ready for this anytime I listen to it.
“It must be beautiful, or it wouldn't be worth the effort.” - Bohuslav Martinů

Offline vandermolen

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 11707
  • Location: Rotherfield, Sussex, UK
Re: Mieczysław Weinberg (1919-1996)
« Reply #417 on: May 18, 2018, 06:13:12 AM »
For me, the slow movement (Adagio sostenuto) from Weinberg’s 5th is enough to catapult this symphony into the hierarchy of greatest Soviet Russian symphonies. This movement haunts me for days after hearing it, so I have to be ready for this anytime I listen to it.
+1
I love the beginning and end as well.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

Offline Maestro267

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 1387
  • Location: Wales
Re: Mieczysław Weinberg (1919-1996)
« Reply #418 on: August 24, 2018, 09:52:55 AM »
I picked up the Naxos recording of Symphony No. 12 today. Just finished listening to it. I've heard a few of his symphonies now (Nos. 8, 12, 17 & 18) and it's clear to me that his soundworld is far more intimate than, say, Shostakovich and Prokofiev, who prefer (in the main) far thicker and heavier textures. With Weinberg, it's almost like chamber music, even though he often deploys sizable orchestral forces.

Offline vandermolen

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 11707
  • Location: Rotherfield, Sussex, UK
Re: Mieczysław Weinberg (1919-1996)
« Reply #419 on: August 24, 2018, 11:44:24 AM »
I picked up the Naxos recording of Symphony No. 12 today. Just finished listening to it. I've heard a few of his symphonies now (Nos. 8, 12, 17 & 18) and it's clear to me that his soundworld is far more intimate than, say, Shostakovich and Prokofiev, who prefer (in the main) far thicker and heavier textures. With Weinberg, it's almost like chamber music, even though he often deploys sizable orchestral forces.

You must hear No.5 - his greatest I think, although not on Naxos.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).