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« Reply #820 on: August 10, 2019, 03:54:44 AM »


Very pleased to have this one. Characterful organ well recorded, rare very early music played with brio and lots of variety so you can listen for a long time without feeling saturated,  short but scholarly essay on the process of turning the score into music. Apparently it was common to play these motet transcriptions  in services when there was no choir to sing them. Some are quite substantial. 
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« Reply #821 on: August 10, 2019, 05:08:08 PM »


Very pleased to have this one. Characterful organ well recorded, rare very early music played with brio and lots of variety so you can listen for a long time without feeling saturated,  short but scholarly essay on the process of turning the score into music. Apparently it was common to play these motet transcriptions  in services when there was no choir to sing them. Some are quite substantial.

I'm familiar with this one, but not the one you posted earlier by Reinhard Jaud. Where can I find it?
I think Reinhard Jaud also has some recordings on the Ebert organ in the NM Sweelinck set.

I remember that one of the main authorities on early keyboard (Willi Apel?) once described all old keyboard tablulatures to be "littered" with uninteresting intabulations. But I think we really should be paying much more attention to them, often times I find them to be more interesting than original compositons! (E.g. in the Jan z Lublin book, where it's probably 30% original and 70% intabulations)
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« Reply #822 on: August 10, 2019, 05:15:34 PM »
I've been thinking of getting this one, just based on the meagre samples on CDbaby.


Gwendolyn Toth also has recordings at the early 16th-century Oosthuilzen and Krewerd organs, Schnitger at Noordbroek, some other ones that are quite wonderful. She also doesn't shy away from vocal intabulations.

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« Reply #823 on: August 10, 2019, 08:13:32 PM »
I'm familiar with this one, but not the one you posted earlier by Reinhard Jaud. Where can I find it?
I think Reinhard Jaud also has some recordings on the Ebert organ in the NM Sweelinck set.

I remember that one of the main authorities on early keyboard (Willi Apel?) once described all old keyboard tablulatures to be "littered" with uninteresting intabulations. But I think we really should be paying much more attention to them, often times I find them to be more interesting than original compositons! (E.g. in the Jan z Lublin book, where it's probably 30% original and 70% intabulations)

Yes it was the Sweelinck which alerted me to him. I’ll send you the orf disc later, it looks like it’s become rareish. He has an  LP which hasn’t been ever transferred, all on the Innsbruck Ebert - he must work there I suppose.

That comment about old tablatures sounds like the sort of thing Willi Apel would have written and in a sense it’s true - I mean if you look from the point of view of harmony and counterpoint. But some of them are not uninteresting melodically and rhythmically - like troubadour sequences in that respect.
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« Reply #824 on: August 10, 2019, 08:29:10 PM »
I've been thinking of getting this one, just based on the meagre samples on CDbaby.


Gwendolyn Toth also has recordings at the early 16th-century Oosthuilzen and Krewerd organs, Schnitger at Noordbroek, some other ones that are quite wonderful. She also doesn't shy away from vocal intabulations.

They’re on Spotify, and I remember enjoying the  Oosthuilzen and Krewerd CD. Part of the problem is the Spotify sound, I maybe should download it from CD baby, the CD itself is quite expensive. Have you heard her Scheidemann?. And more importantly have you heard Hans van Nieuwkoop at Oosthuizen, I like that one very much!

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/KVHGcgYTX5Q" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/KVHGcgYTX5Q</a>

This looks as though it could be interesting, but too steep for me

https://www.amazon.com/Hans-van-Nieuwkoop-live-Contrapunctus/dp/B000LH6XJ4
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« Reply #825 on: August 11, 2019, 07:13:02 PM »
They’re on Spotify, and I remember enjoying the  Oosthuilzen and Krewerd CD. Part of the problem is the Spotify sound, I maybe should download it from CD baby, the CD itself is quite expensive. Have you heard her Scheidemann?. And more importantly have you heard Hans van Nieuwkoop at Oosthuizen, I like that one very much!

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/KVHGcgYTX5Q" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/KVHGcgYTX5Q</a>

This looks as though it could be interesting, but too steep for me

https://www.amazon.com/Hans-van-Nieuwkoop-live-Contrapunctus/dp/B000LH6XJ4

I have only heard the recordings on Spotify (Noordbroek with a memorable BWV 544, and Omlandia Allegra or something like that - Zeerijp and Krewerd). But the other CDs seem even more promising.
It's a shame that CD baby is mp3 quality only for downloads.

I've heard both van Niewkoop recordings before, the Alkmaar recording via Organroxx - somehow, the Oosthuizen one sort of bored me. But the Weckmann magnificat on the Alkmaar recording is one of the best I've heard - played with so much urgency and fire. I'd like to find the disc too.

I would be interested in the Reinhard Jaud. I don't know if you've seen this video before https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Paxp2weMy8
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« Reply #826 on: August 11, 2019, 11:37:28 PM »
There's also this - it's available affordably in amazon.de but they won't ship out of Germany

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Re: The Organ, Master of them all - general organ thread
« Reply #827 on: Today at 06:39:00 AM »
Dunno if I posted this clip earlier, but here's a very easy to understand (for everyone) demonstration of an organ.
Sietze de Vries demonstrating, in his own relaxed way, the Schnitger et al organ of the Martinikerk, Groningen, NL.
Includes English subtitles.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/7mDf2JgQei0" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/7mDf2JgQei0</a>
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Re: The Organ, Master of them all - general organ thread
« Reply #828 on: Today at 07:45:26 AM »
There's also this - it's available affordably in amazon.de but they won't ship out of Germany



I’ve just ordered this, thanks to a kind friend in Germany. I like what I’ve heard of Erbach - Leonhardt recorded a piece as did Tachezi - so a whole CD of his music sounds like it could be a good thing - it’ll be a good opportunity to  renew acquaintance with Hans Leo Hassler too, since according to wiki they were connected, I check what Abel has to say about Erbach later.
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