This will become GMG's most popular thread, ever.
The Boselands from down the street are out back sniffing my wheat and I don't much care for it.
Harpsichords are really quite loud.
Quote from: Mahlerian on September 18, 2017, 10:03:33 AM
Harpsichords are really quite loud.
Yes, this may be their soft spot. :P
Scriabin was a much better composer than Chopin! :P
Never argue; repeat your assertion.
This sentence is false.
A generalisation is never true.
Schrödinger's cat suffers from anxiety.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 18, 2017, 09:56:22 AM
This thread needs clarification, I know.
Is it intended that one should make an assertion that no one could rationally argue against, or that one should feel no fear when positing an assertion (whatever it may be).
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on September 18, 2017, 11:12:24 AM
Never argue; repeat your assertion.
There are two kinds of people--those who try to win, and those who try to win arguments. They are never the same.
- Nassim Taleb
You are A-number-one!
The moon is made of cheese.
My cheese is sharper than your cheese.
George Lucas is the only worthy writer ever nominated for an Academy Award.
(He actually was, though)
Whatever may have been true in the past, the Academy Awards, the Emmys, &c. are now a farce.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 19, 2017, 08:46:20 AM
Whatever may have been true in the past, the Academy Awards, the Emmys, &c. are now a farce.
I don't think you need to fear contradiction there!
There's more German chauvinism in one measure of Ein deutsches Requiem than in the whole of Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg.
There are three kinds of people: those who think and those that don't think.
The ale you quaff that's insufficient to quench your thirst, makes an ocean when spilt; the Kleenex that's too tiny to accommodate your sinal drips becomes endless when pulled from the dryer in scraps.
There are two kinds of people: Those who divide humanity into two groups and those who don't.
I shall go against the premise of this thread.
*Fears contradiction*
There is no such thing as obsessive-compulsive CD purchasing disorder.
This thread will never die.
Someone will contradict this post.
Elvis is alive.
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The health care system is really great in Nigger. I myself am making a lot of money out of it from those loser Niggerians.
Everyone invents countries, sometime or other.
Continuing on the Bach blitz. Janowitz is esp. strong in this recording. RE: HvK, I love the variation here on the two-hand baton clutch, an affectation normally used to convey intensity and commitment to the music. (Or simply a conductor's unwillingness to share his/her stick). This version is actually stronger, more graceful, suggesting not just the aforementioned, but also latency, power about to be unleashed. Capable hands those.
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(This thread is already starting to subsume other threads and WILL take over). "What are you currently listening to" will acquiesce and wither...
Wozzeck really was the best opera of the 20th century.
No conductor who has not mastered the two-hand baton clutch is any use!
My thoughts think me.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 22, 2017, 08:34:46 AM
No conductor who has not mastered the two-hand baton clutch is any use!
Uncontradictable that, even if it were contradictable which it is not because of the thread wherein we live. Hermann Bäumer here demonstrating the
relaxed two-hand baton clutch:
This thread frightens me to no end.
Pigs live in trees.
The cult of Beethoven (for which he himself bears little responsibility) had a stifling and deleterious influence on subsequent composers.
The Austrian-German Canon (for which the composers themselves bear little responsibility) had a stifling and deleterious influence on subsequent composers.
The contemporary concert life has not yet fully recovered from the stifling and deleterious influence of both the cult of Beethoven and the Austrian-German Canon.
EDIT: Some people will never recover from the stifling and deleterious influence of both the cult of Beethoven and the Austrian-German Canon. They are not even aware of the problem.
Quote from: Florestan on September 23, 2017, 05:39:27 AM
The cult of Beethoven (for which he himself bears little responsibility) had a stifling and deleterious influence on subsequent composers.
The Austrian-German Canon (for which the composers themselves bear little responsibility) had a stifling and deleterious influence on subsequent composers.
The contemporary concert life has not yet fully recovered from the stifling and deleterious influence of both the cult of Beethoven and the Austrian-German Canon.
EDIT: Some people will never recover from the stifling and deleterious influence of both the cult of Beethoven and the Austrian-German Canon. They are not even aware of the problem.
A Romanian in my circle of acquaintance has the same opinion.
QuoteWhen one is loved, one has no doubt. When one loves, everything is source of doubt.
Colette
Quote from: Mirror Image on September 22, 2017, 08:21:21 PM
This thread frightens me to no end.
This thread amuses me to some end.
Sound the TRUMPets thread is finally on page two, woo-hoo!!!
A day at the beach is a day better spent than a day at the office.
CLAMS GOT LEGS!
I assert I don't fear contradiction.
Coca-Cola is evil
Evil is high fructose corn syrup
At least one person who has claimed "atonal music" is bad because "no one can hear a wrong note" has listened to this performance (by far the most popular version on YouTube!) without flinching:
https://www.youtube.com/v/6z4KK7RWjmk
Musicians are the worst.
Xylitol is people!
Long red ties are a sign of intelligence.
I'm the smartest person I know!
The Earth is definitely flat.
Never.
Jesus wants all His children to have guns.
Quote from: zamyrabyrd on October 03, 2017, 03:10:41 AM
Oh, really?
Do you know, I think that person I am quoting really believes it. Anyway, he wants us all to believe it.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 03, 2017, 03:58:18 AM
Do you know, I think that person I am quoting really believes it. Anyway, he wants us all to believe it.
"Lock him up."
Among his friends, Franz Peter Schubert was addressed as "Schube." Usually with an exclamation mark: SCHUBE!
Peanut butter M&Ms are the most addictive substance in the known universe.
Quote from: Omicron9 on October 03, 2017, 06:48:28 AM
Among his friends, Franz Peter Schubert was addressed as "Schube." Usually with an exclamation mark: SCHUBE!
Franz was commonly referred to by his friends as "little mushroom". or Schwammerl.
Fish tacos are an aphrodisiac.
For all its impact on race relations in the U.S. "affirmative action" might just as well have been devised by the Ku Klux Klan.
Franz Schubert was commonly referred to by his friends as "Kannewas".
Quote from: zamyrabyrd on October 03, 2017, 08:07:09 AM
Franz was commonly referred to by his friends as "little mushroom". or Schwammerl.
At least one of his friends addressed him as "The Schoobulizer," and two other friends were known to address him as "Schoobster." One friend addressed him as "Schube." All entirely true, of course.
I am having a great day.
All Henningmusick is composed by Andrea Luchesi.
Whatever else I do besides think, I therefore am.
All mutant girls are adorable.
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My poop smells heavenly.
Connecticut is north of Massachusetts.
Nothing doesn't exist.
What is, is.
Rats live on no evil star.
Quote from: San Antonio on October 27, 2017, 11:06:18 AM
Hah!
Did you read the book Gödel, Escher, Bach, by any chance?
Not yet; I did sit in on one of the author's lectures, a few years ago.
Quote from: San Antonio on October 27, 2017, 11:06:18 AM
Did you read the book Gödel, Escher, Bach, by any chance?
I did it on purpose.
(http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/Smileys/classic/smiley.gif)
1. Democratic party head-honchos were very gleeful about a Hillary vs Trump match in 2016 because they were very hopeful that a whole lot of Republicans would find Donald Trump unacceptable, BUT...
2. They completely discounted all the disaffected voters who were tired off both parties. People who would have voted for Bernie Sanders gave Donald Trump the edge he needed.
/fin
I saw Bernie get off a plane at the Washington airport.
Hot apple cider is always better with a sprinkle of pumpkin pie spice mix.
The world needs more superhero movies.
Kale is evil.
My one and only Spy Novel Queen is a Unitarian atheist with a turtle as a spirit animal.
There are no assertive statements!
Only on the Internet does anyone care about what camera, lens, software, triggers, computer etc is used when you take photos. And the same applies about how much you can bench press.
I don't fear contradiction no matter what I assert. A translucent lobster controls the internet. Annihilation energy could power the globe for a month from a grain of sand. Hawking says we have 600 years to get off the planet or we go extinct. I take a trolly to the 7-11 to get mixed nuts and Polar cream soda. I have never been the caretaker.
Vladimir Putin is a heckuva guy.
It is impossible to make a contradiction and I will prove it. Fear is a trait of assertion, making it possible.
Beethoven was a space alien.
Richard Taruskin was right: the true heir of Mozart was Rossini, not Beethoven.
Quote from: (: premont :) on November 29, 2017, 12:11:58 AM
I do not know what "isn't" is.
Is "it" or "isn't" a thing? Or is it not?
The Universe is Electrical in Nature,not Gravitational
Your shirt is wet.
Quote from: snyprrr on November 29, 2017, 08:34:47 PM
The Universe is Electrical in Nature,not Gravitational
Some assertions are sufficiently vague as to be uncontradictable.
a TRUMP is a load of hot air...
Quote from: Andante on November 30, 2017, 03:07:45 PM
a TRUMP is a load of hot air...
Indeed it is, and no prizes as to the place of origin of that air.......................
Quote from: jessop on November 30, 2017, 06:42:42 PM
Indeed it is, and no prizes as to the place of origin of that air.......................
Hi jessop I have been hearing a bit about you on TC.... gone but not forgotten eh ;)
Jessop plays a four-string guitar.
Trump has only one testicle.
Sibelius' 8th symphony probably stunk.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 06, 2018, 04:55:51 AM
Trump has only one testicle.
So do all self respecting plumbers it's called a "Ball" cock.
In ref to Donald Trump:
"It is not the tail that moves the dog"
Quote from: Baron Scarpia on March 08, 2018, 10:00:12 AM
Sibelius' 8th symphony probably stunk.
Right! Why else would he have destroyed it?!
Quote from: Baron Scarpia on March 08, 2018, 10:00:12 AM
Sibelius' 8th symphony probably stunk.
Not contradicting you (staying on topic)...but the 8th is a smell I'd've liked to inhale ;D
Sarge
Well, after he burned it, obviously! :)
Quote from: Baron Scarpia on March 08, 2018, 01:23:00 PM
Well, after he burned it, obviously! :)
Ah, the bouquet of burnt symphony...
Sarge
Nothing like marshmallows melted over the coals of a burnt symphony!
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 08, 2018, 01:54:33 PM
Nothing like marshmallows melted over the coals of a burnt symphony!
Sibelius S'mores...nothing better!
Jessop plays a banjo
The Universe is beige.
I will make the last post before the site goes down.
Kale is evil.
The Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra is the Sacred Cow of classical music.
Cruise tourists are generally ignorant and lazy, a burden to try to help.
Everyone should own a gun. Preferably two.
Spelling errors in geographical names should result in a week's prison sentence for adults.
Spelling errors in geographical names should result in renaming of said geographical names.
There are no geogaphical spelling errfors.
A spelling error turns Rasputin into gas Putin. Or maybe it is just a question of language.
Pre-packed sliced cheese should be forbidden.
Don't even start with aerosol cheese.
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Dvorak's socks never matched. Ever.
Yesterday while driving I listened to Beethoven's 7th, live recording with Carlos Kleiber and the Bavarian RSO. Halfway through the final movement I suddenly remembered, and quite agreed with*, Weber's remark upon hearing it: Beethoven is ripe for the madhouse.
* in the sense that, this is indeed music that can drive one crazy.
And to think that 30 years ago this was one of my favorite symphonies. Truly and inescapably tempora mutantur, nos et mutamur in illis. :(
Quote from: Florestan on June 30, 2018, 05:38:16 AM
Yesterday while driving I listened to Beethoven's 7th, live recording with Carlos Kleiber and the Bavarian RSO. Halfway through the final movement I suddenly remembered, and quite agreed with*, Weber's remark upon hearing it: Beethoven is ripe for the madhouse.
That is strange indeed coming from
Weber. I would think that the 7th Symphony would be at the top of his like list.
Don't get me wrong, Beethoven is and forever will be on my Top 10 list*. It's just that I much prefer his chamber and concertante output to his symphonies, and of the latter I much prefer the even-numbered ones.
* Although not the first and foremost, as he was 30 years ago. :D
Quote from: Florestan on June 30, 2018, 07:06:16 AM
Don't get me wrong, Beethoven is and forever will be on my Top 10 list*. It's just that I much prefer his chamber and concertante output to his symphonies, and of the latter I much prefer the even-numbered ones.
* Although not the first and foremost, as he was 30 years ago. :D
I meant
Weber's, in so far as he was a melodist, but nevermind.
My attitude towards
Beethoven has changed over the years.
I think his best work may be in the string quartets.
I am not so sure about his fugal writing at the end of his career as in Op. 110 piano sonata (which I continue to break my head over) and the
Grosse Fuge leaves me cold. In fact there are patches of his earlier piano sonatas that seem to me like filler. In contrast to a musician in a school where I was teaching, I don't think every note he wrote was divinely inspired. It's difficult for me to sit through 5 minutes of the
Chorale Fantasy, for instance.
The 7th Symphony for me definitely emanates from Elysium, however.
The 4th and 5th piano concerti are very special and so is his violin concerto.
I appreciate deeply several of his violin and piano sonatas, and those for 'cello, especially the later ones.
Quote from: zamyrabyrd on June 30, 2018, 08:19:26 AM
I meant Weber's, in so far as he was a melodist, but nevermind.
Well, I think
Beethoven's 7th is not among his most melodious works.
QuoteIt's difficult for me to sit through 5 minutes of the Chorale Fantasy, for instance.
Hah! I'd rather sit through the CF than through the whole 9th. :)
Beethoven is the origin of much that was excellent in 19th century music, but also of much that was execrable.
Quote from: Florestan on June 30, 2018, 08:34:18 AM
Hah! I'd rather sit through the CF than through the whole 9th. :)
Funny, I know another Romanian who thinks this way. When I was teaching music history to high school conservatory students, I realized that the
9th Symphony first performed in 1824 was already a dinosaur, out of sync with the times. It really belonged together with the "Ode to Joy", to the revolutionary spirit of the end of the 18th century
Quote from: Florestan on June 30, 2018, 08:34:18 AM
Beethoven is the origin of much that was excellent in 19th century music, but also of much that was execrable.
I don't know about that. So much was different after the turn of the 19th century. Even
Schubert who admired
Beethoven, did not follow in his footsteps.
Quote from: zamyrabyrd on June 30, 2018, 08:57:23 AM
Funny, I know another Romanian who thinks this way.
Must be in our genes. :laugh:
Quote from: zamyrabyrd on June 30, 2018, 08:57:23 AM
Even Schubert who admired Beethoven, did not follow in his footsteps.
Fortunately.
Trumpets are traders.
I know this is not something that anyone reasoned would take issue with but i posted it here for the challenged.
Hope this helps!
For the way most people employ it, the 85mm focal length does not make a 'good portrait lens' on a cropped sensor. And somewhat related -
- Flickr is just the Internet equivalent of a refrigerator door.
Quote from: eljr on June 30, 2018, 02:19:29 PM
Trumpets are traders.
I know this is not something that anyone reasoned would take issue with but i posted it here for the challenged.
Hope this helps!
The free marketplace of ideas and goods, sounds OK to me!
A hologram is no different from a real being.
Anagrams can be made from alphabet soup.
Quote from: zamyrabyrd on June 30, 2018, 10:15:00 PM
The free marketplace of ideas and goods, sounds OK to me!
LOL :)
Got me.
Rap is not even music.
It's all music.
It's all mathematics.
The Vanilla slice is a sweet thing
The Internet causes cancer.
Duke does indeed love you madly.
Them what love me, loves me madly.
I want my ashes ejected into Uranus Orbit with a 4'33" period
Then I'd be a Ring playing Cage for as long as possible ;)
I am the Goddess of Contradictions and horrible at asserting
Saint Saens was the first to remix music.
The harder to spell named composers have amazing music.
The earth is flat. But septagonal.
I get "younger" the faster I go...... :P
Dvorak's socks never matched.
Brahms snatched the odd Dvořák sock, and sniggered.
The Earth is flat...ter than some other planets.
The Earth is not a planet!
Earth is Dirt simple
People are people.
Everybody loves Chopin.
Chopin' wood is easy
Axes never need sharpening.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 25, 2018, 09:07:27 AM
The Earth is not a planet!
Wait... that sounds like contradiction to the preceding post.
Quote from: Omicron9 on September 27, 2018, 02:26:12 AM
Wait... that sounds like contradiction to the preceding post.
Ach! My bad.
Sorry,
Heavy Metal Dave!
The burden of proof is on the one who claims, not on the one who denies the claim.
I'm the best!
Yorkshire is God's own county.
I have eleven toes.
I once came to face to face with George Harrison outside the Royal Albert Hall - but he didn't recognise me. :(
I have Elven toes.
I come from Downunder
ich bin ein auslander
A number of Prokofiev's Visions Fugitives wear winklepickers.
Quote from: Iota on September 28, 2018, 03:40:31 PM
.. winklepickers.
I had to look that up. Didn't know they had a name (though pictures were more helpful than description: "a shoe with a long pointed toe, popular in the 1950s")...
Quote from: mc ukrneal on September 28, 2018, 11:24:06 PM
I had to look that up. Didn't know they had a name (though pictures were more helpful than description: "a shoe with a long pointed toe, popular in the 1950s")...
I don't know where you are, but perhaps it's just a UK thing. It's a description I've known since childhood, I always imagined the idea was that the toes are sharp enough to prise winkles (seashells) off the rocks, but there may be a more widely accepted genealogy out there I haven't come across.
Quote from: Iota on September 29, 2018, 03:42:35 AM
I don't know where you are, but perhaps it's just a UK thing. It's a description I've known since childhood, I always imagined the idea was that the toes are sharp enough to prise winkles (seashells) off the rocks, but there may be a more widely accepted genealogy out there I haven't come across.
Not 'off the rocks' - or at least, I always assumed it's because boiled winkles were sold as a food-item on stalls (e.g. at Whitby) and we were each issued with a pin to get the varmint
out of its shell.
Snacks were rare so as a child, I would eat these - as an adult, no thanks. As I remember, the winkles experience was of salt-cum-viscosity.
Quote from: Rosalba on September 29, 2018, 03:48:46 AM
Not 'off the rocks' - or at least, I always assumed it's because boiled winkles were sold as a food-item on stalls (e.g. at Whitby) and we were each issued with a pin to get the varmint out of its shell.
Snacks were rare so as a child, I would eat these - as an adult, no thanks. As I remember, the winkles experience was of salt-cum-viscosity.
Aha, yes that sounds far more likely. I've never eaten a winkle, nor worn a winklepicker, and your description of the former confirms my feeling that things are probably best left that way. :)
Assertion: Listen to all the classical music you can, because nobody has ever seen a U-Haul attached to the Bach of a hearse. :-[
But U-Haul are Offenbach 8)
Nancy Pelosi is awesome!