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The Back Room => The Diner => Topic started by: lescamil on January 13, 2012, 02:37:42 PM

Title: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: lescamil on January 13, 2012, 02:37:42 PM
I decided to give this its own thread, since most people probably won't see it in the chat thread (just a copy-paste):

Hey, if anyone is actually interested in joining a real classical chatroom, I'm an operator at an IRC channel that is originally affiliated with another music forum, but we just invite everyone now from anywhere (since its now kinda dead). If anyone knows how to use IRC and is interested, we are on the PSIGenix network (irc.psigenix.net) at the #concerthall channel. Stop by if you want! I'm trying to get it going, and we can use more musically interested people.

If you want to chat, but don't know much about IRC, here is a quick link to a web-based version so you don't have to download anything and just want to pop in:

http://mibbit.com/#concerthall@irc.psigenix.net

My nick there is Buckwalt (in case you're having trouble finding me).
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room!!!!
Post by: lescamil on January 13, 2012, 08:48:55 PM
Really? Must not be working correctly. There are people in there and I have been watching it the whole time. I'll check out that link. There might be something wrong.

EDIT: Everything is fine on both ends. There are people in here. Come on in! If you don't see anyone talking, or anyone there, say something and see what happens. There are always at least 5-10 people in.
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room!!!!
Post by: Mirror Image on January 13, 2012, 09:45:28 PM
When I use that link: 1. what do I choose to connect to? and 2. what channel do I type in? I'm pretty clueless as to what to do.
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room!!!!
Post by: John Copeland on January 13, 2012, 09:52:15 PM
Quote from: lescamil on January 13, 2012, 08:48:55 PM
Really? Must not be working correctly. There are people in there and I have been watching it the whole time. I'll check out that link. There might be something wrong.

EDIT: Everything is fine on both ends. There are people in here. Come on in! If you don't see anyone talking, or anyone there, say something and see what happens. There are always at least 5-10 people in.

I was in, I left 10 lonley notes to myself over the hour, then left.  So I did say something.  I said 10 things!  I will try again, but if no-one is there I will boil all my Saint saens symphonies in fury.   >:(
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room!!!!
Post by: lescamil on January 13, 2012, 10:03:28 PM
Quote from: Mirror Image on January 13, 2012, 09:45:28 PM
When I use that link: 1. what do I choose to connect to? and 2. what channel do I type in? I'm pretty clueless as to what to do.

Just click the link, set your nick, and hit Go. Don't touch any other settings. It will open it up in a few seconds, you'll see all the users on the right side, and you can just chat away.

Trust me, it IS working correctly. I have been chatting in it for the past while nonstop and I've been watching to see if anyone comes in.
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room!!!!
Post by: John Copeland on January 13, 2012, 11:52:57 PM
I have cancelled the meeting with the Quakers.  That chat is working.   0:)
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room!!!!
Post by: lescamil on January 14, 2012, 02:01:57 PM
Bumping this thread. Come one, come all!

PS. Can a mod please sticky this? I'd like everyone to see this.


EDIT: Who is NorthStar? I saw you go in and exit before I had a chance to say anything.
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room!!!!
Post by: John Copeland on January 14, 2012, 03:28:43 PM
I have removed some posts from this which I made - they were inaccurate.  That chatroom is working fine, and I suspect it needs some support!  I for one think its great chatting realtime about music, and there is a 'jukebox' function on to which you can add from your music for all to listen to.
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room!!!! (Sticky This Please)
Post by: Opus106 on January 14, 2012, 09:22:11 PM
Yes, it really works, people!
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room!!!!
Post by: Mirror Image on January 14, 2012, 10:37:50 PM
Quote from: lescamil on January 13, 2012, 10:03:28 PM
Just click the link, set your nick, and hit Go. Don't touch any other settings. It will open it up in a few seconds, you'll see all the users on the right side, and you can just chat away.

Trust me, it IS working correctly. I have been chatting in it for the past while nonstop and I've been watching to see if anyone comes in.

It's not working for me. I chose my nick name and I hit "connect" but nothing is happening.
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room!!!! (Sticky This Please)
Post by: Opus106 on January 14, 2012, 11:18:59 PM
Quote from: Mirror Image on January 14, 2012, 10:37:50 PM
It's not working for me. I chose my nick name and I hit "connect" but nothing is happening.

Not connect, John, you have to click on the Go button which is to the right of channel's name. Connect is the tab within which you are currently located.

Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room!!!! (Sticky This Please)
Post by: lescamil on January 14, 2012, 11:28:23 PM
I've seen a few people come in for a minute and leave. Is there a problem with mibbit? I can look for another online IRC client if need be. Keep trying, though! If you come in and no one says anything, wait a few minutes. There are some idle times. Say something and someone will say something back!
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room!!!!
Post by: North Star on January 15, 2012, 01:48:50 AM
Quote from: lescamil on January 14, 2012, 02:01:57 PM
Bumping this thread. Come one, come all!

PS. Can a mod please sticky this? I'd like everyone to see this.


EDIT: Who is NorthStar? I saw you go in and exit before I had a chance to say anything.
I am. Just as I had logged in, a friend came for a visit.
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room!!!! (Sticky This Please)
Post by: lescamil on January 15, 2012, 01:53:01 PM
Just bumping this again (until it can get stickied), with hopes that more people come in!
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room!!!! (Sticky This Please)
Post by: Lethevich on January 15, 2012, 02:00:05 PM
I did propose a chatbox a while back, but the admittedly logical response was "isn't that what the forum is for?". Consequently I'm not too sure that this will be stickied, although as it's linked in your sig, it should still get some exposure.
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room!!!! (Sticky This Please)
Post by: lescamil on January 15, 2012, 03:15:16 PM
Well, I am hoping that this will do until there is a chatbox. I am glad that the people that have tried it out have enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: lescamil on January 18, 2012, 06:38:15 PM
Been a while since any GMG'ers have come in. Don't be afraid to just drop by for a bit to say a brief hello!
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: Mirror Image on January 18, 2012, 07:30:40 PM
Okay, so I'm the only one who ever goes in the chatroom late at night (it's 11:30 pm now).
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: lescamil on January 18, 2012, 07:57:43 PM
Quote from: Mirror Image on January 18, 2012, 07:30:40 PM
Okay, so I'm the only one who ever goes in the chatroom late at night (it's 11:30 pm now).

I haven't ever seen you come in. Are you sure you're joining correctly? Also don't worry about coming in late. I am a bit of a night owl, as are a few others in the chatroom.
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: Mirror Image on January 18, 2012, 08:02:29 PM
Quote from: lescamil on January 18, 2012, 07:57:43 PM
I haven't ever seen you come in. Are you sure you're joining correctly?

I have no idea what I'm doing. I go and type in my user name and in under channel I type in #concerthall and click connect because there is NO go button.
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: lescamil on January 18, 2012, 08:07:55 PM
Quote from: Mirror Image on January 18, 2012, 08:02:29 PM
I have no idea what I'm doing. I go and type in my user name and in under channel I type in #concerthall and click connect because there is NO go button.

All you need to do is click this link: http://mibbit.com/#concerthall@irc.psigenix.net

When it loads, just enter your nick. It should say "Channel: #concerthall" next to that. The GO button is right next to it. Hit GO, then wait a few seconds (it will show another page). The channel should pop up. You can then start chatting immediately. If it doesn't work, try using a different browser.
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: Mirror Image on January 18, 2012, 08:11:35 PM
Quote from: lescamil on January 18, 2012, 08:07:55 PM
All you need to do is click this link: http://mibbit.com/#concerthall@irc.psigenix.net

When it loads, just enter your nick. It should say "Channel: #concerthall" next to that. The GO button is right next to it. Hit GO, then wait a few seconds (it will show another page). The channel should pop up. You can then start chatting immediately. If it doesn't work, try using a different browser.

Okay, but there's nothing called a "go" button it's called "connect." Well I've entered the chatroom many times and there's nobody in there.
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: lescamil on January 18, 2012, 09:56:35 PM
Quote from: Mirror Image on January 18, 2012, 08:11:35 PM
Okay, but there's nothing called a "go" button it's called "connect." Well I've entered the chatroom many times and there's nobody in there.

You must be having the same problem John was having. I assure you that it has never been empty since I have created this thread. There are always at least 7-8 people in there at all hours of the day (it is an international chatroom).

Make sure that the server you are connected to is irc.psigenix.net and that the channel you are joining is #concerthall. That is basically all you need.
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: Opus106 on January 18, 2012, 10:22:45 PM
Quote from: lescamil on January 18, 2012, 08:07:55 PM
then wait a few seconds (it will show another page).

Could this other page be the source of this confusion? Although it comes up only for a fraction second before the channel page comes up (with a fast connection), it does have a couple of fields with a "Connect" button next to them. (And it also appears when you close the channel and server tabs.)
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: lescamil on January 18, 2012, 10:26:10 PM
Quote from: Opus106 on January 18, 2012, 10:22:45 PM
Could this other page be the source of this confusion? Although it comes up only for a fraction second before the channel page comes up (with a fast connection), it does have a couple of fields with a "Connect" button next to them. (And it also appears when you close the channel and server tabs.)

Yeah, that is the page I was speaking of. It does have some other buttons, but ignore them and just wait for the channel to pop up automatically. That is why I told Mirror Image to switch browsers, for I wasn't sure how different browsers would handle that page.
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: Mirror Image on January 19, 2012, 06:55:13 PM
It finally worked, but everybody is idling right now. :(
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: TheGSMoeller on January 19, 2012, 07:13:27 PM
Chatting.  ;D
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: Mirror Image on January 19, 2012, 09:07:23 PM
It was good chatting with you guys tonight. 8)
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: Ataraxia on July 18, 2012, 07:07:59 AM
I have 60 iTunes bucks burning a hole in my cyber-pocket.
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: Ataraxia on July 24, 2012, 02:46:20 PM
(http://chzhistoriclols.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/funny-pictures-history-classical-music.jpg)
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: Karl Henning on September 09, 2013, 10:25:21 AM
No, no. I could never die for a late-Romantic wallow.
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: Henk on September 22, 2013, 04:07:03 AM
How is Frescobaldi, Karl?
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: Karl Henning on September 22, 2013, 04:09:22 AM
I like him. He's his own man, in some ways "in between" . . . sometimes he can dance like Scarlatti, sometimes his music has the rarefied vision of Bach.
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: lescamil on September 25, 2013, 12:35:50 PM
You know, my invitation for using the IRC channel still stands. I'm there most days, and it generally always has a few people in it.
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: mn dave on October 14, 2013, 05:09:27 AM
I found this quote and I'm not sure if it agrees with me.

"Beethoven tells you what it's like to be Beethoven and Mozart tells you what it's like to be human. Bach tells you what it's like to be the universe." ― Douglas Adams
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: kishnevi on December 09, 2013, 08:16:13 AM
I've located a pianistic Francophonic hobbit.
(http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_400/MI0003/245/MI0003245834.jpg?partner=allrovi.com)(http://www.signumrecords.com/products/images/categories/PR%20VERY%20HI%20RES%20credit%20Nick%20Granito.jpg)
[Pascal Roge--and apparently the photographs of his younger days only emphasize his origins in the shire]
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/production.mediajoint.prx.org/public/piece_images/71219/Pascal_Roge_for_PRX_medium.jpg)
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: Karl Henning on December 09, 2013, 10:37:51 AM
Quote from: Mn Dave on October 14, 2013, 05:09:27 AM
I found this quote and I'm not sure if it agrees with me.

"Beethoven tells you what it's like to be Beethoven and Mozart tells you what it's like to be human. Bach tells you what it's like to be the universe." ― Douglas Adams

Like all similes, it has its limitations . . . .
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: Karl Henning on January 07, 2014, 04:43:15 AM
Quote from: snyprrr on January 06, 2014, 10:09:04 AM
gaaah- Elgar and Brian claw their way back to top o'the heap. No wonder I've been in The Diner all day! :laugh:
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room: Gee, Guess What?!
Post by: Cato on January 09, 2014, 11:10:46 AM
This hit the news today: for the "Water is WET!!!" type of "study" plaguing us today.

QuotePlaying classical music such as Beethoven and Mozart to young children boosts their concentration and self-discipline, a new study suggests.

Youngsters also improve their general listening and social skills by being exposed to repertoires from composers including Ravel, Shostakovich and Mendelssohn.

In addition, they are likely to appreciate a wider range of music in later years, according to a study from the Institute of Education, (IoE), University of London....

Meanwhile a study from the University of St Andrews, Fife, Scotland, last September suggested that musicians have sharper minds and are less likely to suffer a mental decline.

Researchers said that mastering instruments such as the piano, flute or violin improves people's ability to pick up mistakes and fix them quickly.

They perform tasks faster and do not allow occasional slip-ups to derail them due to their hours of practice.

The study indicated that playing an instrument could protect against a deterioration in mental abilities through age or illness.

See:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2536032/Playing-classical-music-baby-improve-listening-skills-later-life.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2536032/Playing-classical-music-baby-improve-listening-skills-later-life.html)
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: Karl Henning on January 09, 2014, 11:16:24 AM
Nice! I'm sharing that with my employer . . . .
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: lescamil on January 10, 2014, 11:46:36 AM
Looks like many of you missed the point of the thread. Please check my original post:

http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,19772.0.html

New users are always welcome!
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: snyprrr on April 02, 2014, 08:38:07 AM
Ooo... this is a cozy little room, nice and quiet in here! I could just stretch out and relax in here all by myself for a while. Ahhhh...

Maybe I'll put a little music on... hm hmm hm...
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: snyprrr on August 29, 2014, 11:36:31 AM
Quote from: snyprrr on April 02, 2014, 08:38:07 AM
Ooo... this is a cozy little room, nice and quiet in here! I could just stretch out and relax in here all by myself for a while. Ahhhh...

Maybe I'll put a little music on... hm hmm hm...

You still here? :laugh:
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on September 24, 2014, 05:49:50 AM
Thought some of us might relate to this quote from Ned Rorem, whose writing is full of such things :  a well-worn cliché ?  I think so, still I could relate in part.   

"The shock in growing up - that everyone wasn't like me!  I'd assumed the world was made of Hawthorne readers, Ravel listeners, Duchamp lookers, or of little boys who cut gym class to write music."

That first sentence is universal in any case, even among those who have never ever heard of Ravel.  The greater shock is in discovering that everyone is like you in thinking like that!
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: Karl Henning on September 24, 2014, 06:46:38 AM
It's one of life's paradoxes:  people are alike all over;  and everyone is an individual.
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on September 24, 2014, 07:40:01 AM
WELL SAID, Karl.
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: North Star on September 24, 2014, 07:47:50 AM
People are all the same, just in different ways.
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: Karl Henning on September 24, 2014, 07:51:26 AM
Indeed.  There is probably no one thing in which I am completely unique.
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: kishnevi on September 24, 2014, 08:56:06 AM
But the sum of those things makes you completely unique.  [This of course goes for all people in their different selves.]
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: kishnevi on September 24, 2014, 09:02:24 AM
From the Mishnah, Tractate Sanhedrin Chapter 4

Therefore, humans were created singly, to teach you that whoever destroys a single soul [of Israel], Scripture accounts it as if he had destroyed a full world; and whoever saves one soul of Israel, Scripture accounts it as if he had saved a full world. And for the sake of peace among people, that one should not say to his fellow, "My father greater than yours;" and that heretics should not say, "There are many powers in Heaven." Again, to declare the greatness of the Holy One, blessed be God, for one stamps out many coins with one die, and they are all alike, but the King, the King of kings, the Holy One, blessed be God, stamped each person with the seal of Adam, and not one of them is like his fellow. Therefore each and every one is obliged to say, "For my sake the world was created."
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: Karl Henning on September 24, 2014, 09:41:54 AM
That is beautiful.
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: Karl Henning on January 29, 2015, 07:33:31 AM
What if snypsss suddenly developed an enthusiasm for Havergal Brian?

You're welcome.
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: Karl Henning on January 30, 2015, 06:40:18 AM
The composer, and not any one performer (how brilliant soever) owns the piece.
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: Karl Henning on March 25, 2015, 06:33:27 AM
Just noticed a quote in our Andrei's signature:

Quote from: Luigi BoccheriniMusic without passions and feelings is meaningless.

Well, I wonder.

If music of absolute calm be music without passions (and I think it might), then I don't believe it is meaningless.  The calm is itself the meaning.

Music without feelings . . . well, I almost want to ask, Is music without feelings possible?  Again, I think it reverts to the idea that music excites or resonates with feelings, but the precise nature of those feelings is a question.
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: kishnevi on April 25, 2015, 10:59:03 AM
A family of Mizrachi origin (that is,  originally from Arabic or Persian speaking countries, the Sassoon family of England being the best known example) has recently joined my synagogue.

The family name is Bassoon.
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: San Antone on June 04, 2015, 08:02:27 AM
Back in 1960 three friends, all students at UCLA, invented minimalism:  La Monte Young, Terry Jennings and Dennis Johnson (Terry Riley would soon join them but he was not at UCLA).  Of these, Dennis Johnson is credited with writing the very first piece of music that later came to be called Minimalist: his four (to six) hour work for piano called November.

RTRH (https://musicakaleidoscope.wordpress.com/2015/06/04/dennis-johnsons-november-minimalism-before-minimalism-was-cool/)

(http://www.thewire.co.uk/img/scale/460/355/2013/04/05/JohnsonNovember-ms-1.jpg)
Title: Lowell Liebermann Dead at Age 66
Post by: Cato on February 15, 2016, 08:58:21 AM
I am not sure if this is the right place for such an announcement, but:

http://slippedisc.com/2016/02/a-major-american-composer-has-died-at-66/ (http://slippedisc.com/2016/02/a-major-american-composer-has-died-at-66/)
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: nathanb on May 07, 2016, 06:23:52 PM
Anyone use this much? I would love a chat room style discussion here and there :)
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: zamyrabyrd on September 03, 2016, 09:10:34 PM
Quote from: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on September 24, 2014, 05:49:50 AM
Thought some of us might relate to this quote from Ned Rorem, whose writing is full of such things :  a well-worn cliché ?  I think so, still I could relate in part:   
"The shock in growing up - that everyone wasn't like me!  I'd assumed the world was made of Hawthorne readers, Ravel listeners, Duchamp lookers, or of little boys who cut gym class to write music."

Didn't Prince Charles (when he was a kid) think that everyone lived in a castle?
(Slow as molasses thread, maybe this will revive it?)
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: Hilltroll73(Ukko) on September 23, 2016, 06:04:05 AM
Just read a report stating that Ivan Fischer and his crew have recorded Tchaikovsky's 6th, and were both lively and under control doing it. The reviewer gives the impression that there is more to the symphony than its finale. Who knew?
Title: Ohio Priest Goes to Cleveland Orchestra Concert - Hilarity Ensues!
Post by: Cato on April 02, 2017, 11:36:02 AM
Our parish priest today related the following anecdote about himself:

For Christmas, he had received a ticket to an "All-American Concert" with the Cleveland Orchestra.  Bernstein's On the Waterfront SuiteCopland's Symphony #3, and the Violin Concerto #3 by Augusta Thomas.

So on the courtesy bus from the hotel to Severance Hall, Father X  0:) is starting to discuss the works with another priest, who has not heard any of them ever before.   Father X says that, to prepare himself, he found the Thomas work on YouTube.  A woman sitting in front of them overhears the conversation, turns, and asks: "What did you think of Jugglers in Paradise ?

Father X: "Oh, it was one of these noisy modern things.  It sounded like a bunch of First-Graders were given instruments and were told to bang and beat on them and destroy them."

She: "Didn't you like any of the violin melodies?"

Father X: "So you're acquainted with the work?"

She: "Oh yes!" 

Father X: "Well, now and then maybe, but they were just all over the place most of the time, really hard to follow."

She: "Oh, okay.  Well, maybe you'll change your opinion of it after today's performance."

Father X: "You seem to be a fan of the piece."

She: (winking) "I have to be.  I'm Augusta Thomas."

The congregation, of course, caught on where this was going well before he had caught on!  He said that he was 50 Shades of Red and both feet and both hands were in his mouth.  Augusta Thomas took it very well, and said it was fine if he did not like it.  He then politely asked about the premise, and she began to explain it, which he said was a little bit of a help.  Father X thanked her for her patience with an unwilling listener, and she simply commented: "I'm just hoping to roll away the rock."

In this case, not from the tomb of Lazarus, but from the ears of the audience.  And her comment explains why he used the anecdote in his sermon for today's Mass! :laugh:


Title: Re: Ohio Priest Goes to Cleveland Orchestra Concert - Hilarity Ensues!
Post by: Karl Henning on April 02, 2017, 01:15:19 PM
Quote from: Cato on April 02, 2017, 11:36:02 AM
Our parish priest today related the following anecdote about himself:

For Christmas, he had received a ticket to an "All-American Concert" with the Cleveland Orchestra.  Bernstein's On the Waterfront SuiteCopland's Symphony #3, and the Violin Concerto #3 by Augusta Thomas.

So on the courtesy bus from the hotel to Severance Hall, Father X  0:) is starting to discuss the works with another priest, who has not heard any of them ever before.   Father X says that, to prepare himself, he found the Thomas work on YouTube.  A woman sitting in front of them overhears the conversation, turns, and asks: "What did you think of Jugglers in Paradise ?

Father X: "Oh, it was one of these noisy modern things.  It sounded like a bunch of First-Graders were given instruments and were told to bang and beat on them and destroy them."

She: "Didn't you like any of the violin melodies?"

Father X: "So you're acquainted with the work?"

She: "Oh yes!" 

Father X: "Well, now and then maybe, but they were just all over the place most of the time, really hard to follow."

She: "Oh, okay.  Well, maybe you'll change your opinion of it after today's performance."

Father X: "You seem to be a fan of the piece."

She: (winking) "I have to be.  I'm Augusta Thomas."

The congregation, of course, caught on where this was going well before he had caught on!  He said that he was 50 Shades of Red and both feet and both hands were in his mouth.  Augusta Thomas took it very well, and said it was fine if he did not like it.  He then politely asked about the premise, and she began to explain it, which he said was a little bit of a help.  Father X thanked her for her patience with an unwilling listener, and she simply commented: "I'm just hoping to roll away the rock."

In this case, not from the tomb of Lazarus, but from the ears of the audience.  And her comment explains why he used the anecdote in his sermon for today's Mass! :laugh:
Cracking fun!

Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Ohio Priest Goes to Cleveland Orchestra Concert - Hilarity Ensues!
Post by: Cato on April 03, 2017, 04:08:58 AM
Quote from: Cato on April 02, 2017, 11:36:02 AM
Our parish priest today related the following anecdote about himself:

For Christmas, he had received a ticket to an "All-American Concert" with the Cleveland Orchestra.  Bernstein's On the Waterfront SuiteCopland's Symphony #3, and the Violin Concerto #3 by Augusta Thomas.

So on the courtesy bus from the hotel to Severance Hall, Father X  0:) is starting to discuss the works with another priest, who has not heard any of them ever before.   Father X says that, to prepare himself, he found the Thomas work on YouTube.  A woman sitting in front of them overhears the conversation, turns, and asks: "What did you think of Jugglers in Paradise ?

Father X: "Oh, it was one of these noisy modern things.  It sounded like a bunch of First-Graders were given instruments and were told to bang and beat on them and destroy them."

She: "Didn't you like any of the violin melodies?"

Father X: "So you're acquainted with the work?"

She: "Oh yes!" 

Father X: "Well, now and then maybe, but they were just all over the place most of the time, really hard to follow."

She: "Oh, okay.  Well, maybe you'll change your opinion of it after today's performance."

Father X: "You seem to be a fan of the piece."

She: (winking) "I have to be.  I'm Augusta Thomas."

The congregation, of course, caught on where this was going well before he had caught on!  He said that he was 50 Shades of Red and both feet and both hands were in his mouth.  Augusta Thomas took it very well, and said it was fine if he did not like it.  He then politely asked about the premise, and she began to explain it, which he said was a little bit of a help.  Father X thanked her for her patience with an unwilling listener, and she simply commented: "I'm just hoping to roll away the rock."

In this case, not from the tomb of Lazarus, but from the ears of the audience.  And her comment explains why he used the anecdote in his sermon for today's Mass! :laugh:

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on April 02, 2017, 01:15:19 PM

Cracking fun!


The congregation felt the cringe effect  :-[  fairly early in the story!  0:)
Title: Re: Ohio Priest Goes to Cleveland Orchestra Concert - Hilarity Ensues!
Post by: Cato on April 04, 2017, 03:28:23 AM
Quote from: Cato on April 02, 2017, 11:36:02 AM
Our parish priest today related the following anecdote about himself:

For Christmas, he had received a ticket to an "All-American Concert" with the Cleveland Orchestra.  Bernstein's On the Waterfront SuiteCopland's Symphony #3, and the Violin Concerto #3 by Augusta Thomas.



Quote from: Cato on April 03, 2017, 04:08:58 AM
The congregation felt the cringe effect  :-[  fairly early in the story!  0:)

For those who would like to hear what appalled our parish priest: the Violin Concerto #3 ("Juggler in Paradise") by Augusta Thomas.

Frank-Peter Zimmermann is the soloist.

https://www.youtube.com/v/EUvD0mjlEuA
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: Karl Henning on April 04, 2017, 06:17:45 AM
Say what you like, love it or hate it, it doesn't sound anything like what would happen if a bunch of First-Graders were given instruments and were told to bang and beat on them and destroy them  0:)

The priest really did set himself up there;  and perhaps it is an accident of his structuring the conversation for storytelling, but So you're acquainted with the work? is some distance from a retraction   :laugh:

I understand that she is again Composer-in-Residence for the Chicago Symphony, so she's got a steady gig (and good for her).  At the time of an earlier residency, a friend on the West Coast (one who has commissioned a few works of mine) suggested that I send her White Nights (she was curating some new music concerts).  Her response was (I only mildly paraphrase) "Why don't you listen to more new music?"  So "Gusty" has her own pet prejudices, it seems.
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room: Augusta Thomas
Post by: Cato on April 04, 2017, 06:32:46 AM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on April 04, 2017, 06:17:45 AM
Say what you like, love it or hate it, it doesn't sound anything like what would happen if a bunch of First-Graders were given instruments and were told to bang and beat on them and destroy them  0:)

Yes, I was surprised that the work had such a placid and meditative feel most of the time, and there is even a Mahlerian touch now and then in the last 6 or 7 minutes.

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on April 04, 2017, 06:17:45 AM
So "Gusty" has her own pet prejudices, it seems.

Too bad: perhaps she should "roll away the rock" from her own ears!   0:)  Did she not understand the background and nature of your ballet?   Her loss!
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: Karl Henning on April 04, 2017, 06:46:55 AM
It had much the same feel as the University at Buffalo vibe:  if you write music, but it is not The Right Kind of new music, you're almost a worse enemy than the symphony-goers who have to have their steady diet of Beethoven and Tchaikovsky . . . .
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: eljr on July 28, 2017, 02:30:28 PM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on April 04, 2017, 06:46:55 AM
It had much the same feel as the University at Buffalo vibe:  if you write music, but it is not The Right Kind of new music, you're almost a worse enemy than the symphony-goers who have to have their steady diet of Beethoven and Tchaikovsky . . . .

QFT
Title: Re: Ohio Priest Goes to Cleveland Orchestra Concert - Hilarity Ensues!
Post by: San Antone on December 05, 2017, 08:28:21 AM
Quote from: Cato on April 04, 2017, 03:28:23 AM

https://www.youtube.com/v/EUvD0mjlEuA

I think it is a very good work.   I have never trusted priests.   :P
Title: Re: Ohio Priest Goes to Cleveland Orchestra Concert - Hilarity Ensues!
Post by: dissily Mordentroge on November 28, 2019, 01:34:22 PM
Quote from: Cato on April 02, 2017, 11:36:02 AM
Our parish priest today related the following anecdote about himself:

For Christmas, he had received a ticket to an "All-American Concert" with the Cleveland Orchestra.  Bernstein's On the Waterfront SuiteCopland's Symphony #3, and the Violin Concerto #3 by Augusta Thomas.

So on the courtesy bus from the hotel to Severance Hall, Father X  0:) is starting to discuss the works with another priest, who has not heard any of them ever before.   Father X says that, to prepare himself, he found the Thomas work on YouTube.  A woman sitting in front of them overhears the conversation, turns, and asks: "What did you think of Jugglers in Paradise ?

Father X: "Oh, it was one of these noisy modern things.  It sounded like a bunch of First-Graders were given instruments and were told to bang and beat on them and destroy them."

She: "Didn't you like any of the violin melodies?"

Father X: "So you're acquainted with the work?"

She: "Oh yes!" 

Father X: "Well, now and then maybe, but they were just all over the place most of the time, really hard to follow."

She: "Oh, okay.  Well, maybe you'll change your opinion of it after today's performance."

Father X: "You seem to be a fan of the piece."

She: (winking) "I have to be.  I'm Augusta Thomas."

The congregation, of course, caught on where this was going well before he had caught on!  He said that he was 50 Shades of Red and both feet and both hands were in his mouth.  Augusta Thomas took it very well, and said it was fine if he did not like it.  He then politely asked about the premise, and she began to explain it, which he said was a little bit of a help.  Father X thanked her for her patience with an unwilling listener, and she simply commented: "I'm just hoping to roll away the rock."

In this case, not from the tomb of Lazarus, but from the ears of the audience.  And her comment explains why he used the anecdote in his sermon for today's Mass! :laugh:

Reminds me of a rehearsal of a Stockhausen chamber work I attended where the leader told the flautist she'd played the wrong note.
"How  the f**k can you tell" she hit back, "To me they all sound wrong".
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: San Antone on November 28, 2019, 01:48:37 PM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on April 04, 2017, 06:46:55 AM
It had much the same feel as the University at Buffalo vibe:  if you write music, but it is not The Right Kind of new music, you're almost a worse enemy than the symphony-goers who have to have their steady diet of Beethoven and Tchaikovsky . . . .

I know that feeling. 

When I was studying composition, in the 1970s, atonality was still de rigueur at the small school I attended in Louisiana.  My music was entirely too mild, after all I had admitted to liking the music of Poulenc - and was told to try again.  But when I wrote two solo pieces, one for clarinet and one for cello, then had them play them together as a duet, my comp prof didn't appreciate my attempt at stretching the boundaries of form.

8)
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: dissily Mordentroge on November 28, 2019, 02:35:39 PM
Quote from: San Antone on November 28, 2019, 01:48:37 PM
I know that feeling. 

When I was studying composition, in the 1970s, atonality was still de rigueur at the small school I attended in Louisiana.  My music was entirely too mild, after all I had admitted to liking the music of Poulenc - and was told to try again.  But when I wrote two solo pieces, one for clarinet and one for cello, then had them play them together as a duet, my comp prof didn't appreciate my attempt at stretching the boundaries of form.

8)
Even though I've enjoyed a few atonal works I often have the feeling the composer is throwing a tantrum by refusing to make sense as young children sometimes do to annoy adults. For some reason I find atonalism hardest to cope with in choral works.
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: San Antone on November 28, 2019, 02:48:51 PM
Quote from: dissily Mordentroge on November 28, 2019, 02:35:39 PM
Even though I've enjoyed a few atonal works I often have the feeling the composer is throwing a tantrum by refusing to make sense as young children sometimes do to annoy adults. For some reason I find atonalism hardest to cope with in choral works.

I do too.  But I have also found much pleasure in listening to some works considered atonal.  Schoenberg's solo piano works, e.g., as well as much of the music by Webern.  I listen to a fair amount of new music, and am not one to denigrate atonal or dissonant music globally; it entirely depends upon the specifics of a work and how a composer handles that style in general.
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: milk on February 05, 2020, 01:21:25 PM
My son (second boy) born yesterday 2/5/20 morning by c-section. I'm very relieved everyone is healthy. 2 weeks before due for a planned birth and much relief he's so bouncy and not too small (about 7 lbs and change).
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: San Antone on February 05, 2020, 01:23:00 PM
Quote from: milk on February 05, 2020, 01:21:25 PM
My son (second boy) born yesterday 2/5/20 morning by c-section. I'm very relieved everyone is healthy. 2 weeks before due for a planned birth and much relief he's so bouncy and not too small (about 7 lbs and change).

Congratulations!   ;D
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: Karl Henning on February 05, 2020, 03:45:37 PM
Quote from: milk on February 05, 2020, 01:21:25 PM
My son (second boy) born yesterday 2/5/20 morning by c-section. I'm very relieved everyone is healthy. 2 weeks before due for a planned birth and much relief he's so bouncy and not too small (about 7 lbs and change).

Congratulations!
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: j winter on February 05, 2020, 05:00:50 PM
Outstanding!   :)
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: steve ridgway on February 05, 2020, 09:07:42 PM
Quote from: milk on February 05, 2020, 01:21:25 PM
My son (second boy) born yesterday 2/5/20 morning by c-section. I'm very relieved everyone is healthy. 2 weeks before due for a planned birth and much relief he's so bouncy and not too small (about 7 lbs and change).

Good news! That must have been very stressful.
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: pjme on February 05, 2020, 11:42:29 PM
Quote from: milk on February 05, 2020, 01:21:25 PM
My son (second boy) born yesterday 2/5/20 morning by c-section. I'm very relieved everyone is healthy. 2 weeks before due for a planned birth and much relief he's so bouncy and not too small (about 7 lbs and change).

Heel hartelijk gefeliciteerd! Congratulations. Felicitations!

https://www.youtube.com/v/u-tDjTXiu5I

Good luck...

Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: milk on February 06, 2020, 03:19:20 AM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on February 05, 2020, 03:45:37 PM
Congratulations!
Quote from: j winter on February 05, 2020, 05:00:50 PM
Outstanding!   :)
Quote from: steve ridgway on February 05, 2020, 09:07:42 PM
Good news! That must have been very stressful.
Quote from: pjme on February 05, 2020, 11:42:29 PM
Heel hartelijk gefeliciteerd! Congratulations. Felicitations!

https://www.youtube.com/v/u-tDjTXiu5I

Good luck...


Quote from: San Antone on February 05, 2020, 01:23:00 PM
Congratulations!   ;D
Thanks so much everybody! I'm exhausted from trying to manage our 2-year old with mama away. Yikes I'm exhausted! Gotta make it until Monday when my wife comes home with the new little guy. Hmmm...then I gotta figure out how to cook something for my wife too! Anyway, thanks all!
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: Iota on February 06, 2020, 04:15:30 AM
Terrific, congratulations! 

Quote from: milk on February 06, 2020, 03:19:20 AM
...then I gotta figure out how to cook something for my wife too!

Your wife's the mother of your new boy, necessity's the mother of invention.  8)
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: mc ukrneal on February 06, 2020, 04:56:31 AM
Quote from: milk on February 06, 2020, 03:19:20 AM
Thanks so much everybody! I'm exhausted from trying to manage our 2-year old with mama away. Yikes I'm exhausted! Gotta make it until Monday when my wife comes home with the new little guy. Hmmm...then I gotta figure out how to cook something for my wife too! Anyway, thanks all!
Congratulations! Super news! Enjoy this special time!

Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: milk on February 08, 2020, 02:57:57 AM
Quote from: mc ukrneal on February 06, 2020, 04:56:31 AM
Congratulations! Super news! Enjoy this special time!


Quote from: Iota on February 06, 2020, 04:15:30 AM
Terrific, congratulations! 

Your wife's the mother of your new boy, necessity's the mother of invention.  8)
Thanks so much. I'm exhausted beyond measure from taking care of our first boy Sam. He's 2. I've never been so tired.
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: milk on March 02, 2022, 03:46:23 PM
I wonder why all my unread topics suddenly disappeared. There were something like ten. Then there were none. These are thread I was following. I mean "new replies."
Title: Re: Classical Music Chat Room
Post by: JBS on April 12, 2022, 08:29:45 AM
Today's Google Doodle honors Montserrat Caballe on her birthday. She would have been 89 today.
(https://www.google.com/logos/doodles/2022/montserrat-caballes-89th-birthday-6753651837109386-m.png)