Just for a bit of fun - what CD from your collection should be an absolute no brainer for someone building a collection? It must be an absolute personal gem, and one you would be willing to give to someone if they could only hear one piece of music in their entire life.
Please only recommend one, otherwise the fun is spoiled! Though I think we can and ought to accept cycles.
For me:
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For me that would be the Dvorak Symphonies, conducted by Rafael Kubelik. :)
This is actually 2 CD's . . . . . .
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One single CD?
Easy:
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Probably the greatest Beethoven performance committed to disc.
All Mahlerian's should own this, even if you have 30 Resurrections....you really should own this too ;D
Well, I'm taking notes,
Tony 8)
Quote from: Harry on May 09, 2007, 09:46:35 AM
For me that would be the Dvorak Symphonies, conducted by Rafael Kubelik. :)
I wondered how you might choose, for purposes of this thread,
Harry! -- and I might have guessed that your choice would be, not
the one recording, but a small parcel of recordings ;D
Quote from: karlhenning on May 09, 2007, 10:05:10 AM
Well, I'm taking notes, Tony 8)
Hmmm...You still not endulged yet Karl?
Never mind, I will add it to your list ;D
Gonna have to force you!!
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This:
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Que's Tahra LVB 9th with Furt....what a classic, I have...and boy it deserves its place in this thread ;)
Not an easy question.
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I could choose any one of a hundred or so, but this one fits the bill admirably:
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Helmut Walchas recording of the Art of Fugue, available separately now:
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/hnum/8784091/rk/classic/rsk/hitlist
Quote from: karlhenning on May 09, 2007, 10:18:38 AM
Not an easy question.
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I have just acquired this, not yet fully digested it.
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Quote from: Todd on May 09, 2007, 10:54:14 AM
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It's that good? I have Biret and Helffer, plus Pollini in the 2nd, and I think of these works as good rather than great.
Tureck's DG set of the Well-Tempered Clavier.
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The Haydn Cello Concertos as performed by Hogwood/Coin. The closest to perfect classical music CD of my collection.
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Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on May 09, 2007, 09:57:58 AM
One single CD?
Easy:
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Probably the greatest Beethoven performance committed to disc.
I second this.
Quote from: edward on May 09, 2007, 11:02:59 AM
It's that good? I have Biret and Helffer, plus Pollini in the 2nd, and I think of these works as good rather than great.
I have Pollini in the 2nd and he really is amazing. I don't know quite how I would rank the sonata itself.
The first thing that popped into my mind:
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or perhaps
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(http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/414RHXNZ1RL._AA240_.jpg)
Granted, I'm a bit of a classical music novice, but I
couldn't imagine not having Part's Da Pacem in my
collection. It was a close call because I enjoy
Belohlavek's reading of Dvorak's Stabat Mater, but
nothing moves me as much as this collection...
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Carlos Kleiber, Brahms Symphony No. 4
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Nice choice Boris! :)
Lots of interesting preferances, and some archaic discs worth noting down, I think.
Rubio, thanks for your point about Hogwood; I have a number of his discs, although not that one in particular, and they are all quite special and highly recommended.
Quote from: BorisG on May 09, 2007, 12:42:14 PM
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It pales next to the Michelangeli I listed earlier. The master is still better than the student.
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Frank Martins Der Cornet in this stunning recording.
Frankly, I find it absolutely impossible to choose. I have no favorite disc, or at least my favorites change all the time. For a while I thought I'd just post what I have been listening to the most over the last year or so (that would be a DG set of Simoneau and Alarie - my greatest discovery of the past year) but finally decided I should post the disc that most amazed me when I first heard it and still remains a favorite. So here it is:
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Bach's Keyboard Concertos (played on the piano!) Gould, CSO, Bernstein, Golschmann
Maciek
Quote from: Michel on May 09, 2007, 09:41:34 AM
Just for a bit of fun - what CD from your collection should be an absolute no brainer for someone building a collection? It must be an absolute personal gem, and one you would be willing to give to someone if they could only hear one piece of music in their entire life.
My first thoughts were that Kleiber
Beethoven 5 and 7, and the
Boulez sonatas with Jumppanen is an intriguing choice.
By these criteria, I would pick my favorite CD, and hope that any one of the three works on it would appeal to a listener. I do think that everyone should have one version of each of these pieces in his or her library, even if on another recording, but this is an excellent trio, all composed at roughly the same time.
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Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra
Riccardo Chailly, conductor
Mosolov:
Iron Foundry (1928)
Varèse:
Arcana (1925-27)
Prokofiev:
Symphony No. 3 (1928)
--Bruce
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Probably still this one.
I could make 3 or 4 different replies but here goes:-
Choose from any one of these below:-
1) Michael Rabin - EMI 6 CD box set (most fantastic St Saens Op 28)
2) Leonid Kogan - Tchaikovsy VC (EMI with Silvestri - blows every other violinist
out of the water)
3) Mendelssohn VC - Campoli, Boult, LPO on Beulah (still my fav. over all others)
4) Rimsky-Korsakov - Cap Espagnole Op 34 BPO , Maazel on earth shattering form
(DG Originals)
Yikes! What a question.
Sticking to classical...
I'll go out on a limb and...
Choose this one...
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I'm probably wrong though. :-\
Quote from: dtwilbanks on May 09, 2007, 02:31:17 PM
Yikes! What a question.
Sticking to classical...
I'll go out on a limb and...
Choose this one...
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I'm probably wrong though. :-\
Only in doubting yourself. :)
I almost put that one, I am glad someone did!
Quote from: dtwilbanks on May 09, 2007, 02:31:17 PM
Yikes! What a question.
Sticking to classical...
I'll go out on a limb and...
Choose this one...
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I'm probably wrong though. :-\
You certainly could do alot worse
Thanks, men. :)
Hard to pick just one, but I'll go with this:
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Quote from: AnthonyAthletic on May 09, 2007, 10:16:33 AM
Que's Tahra LVB 9th with Furt....what a classic, I have...and boy it deserves its place in this thread ;)
Tahra has re-released that performance on a 4 CD set with the 1942 Berlin and 1951 Bayreuth performances of the 9th. The fourth CD is a fascinating comparison of the three performances by Sami Habra. Another must have; it could have been my choice in this thread.
On the subject of Furtie, is it true that, when the CD was being developed by Sony, the reason they decided it should hold 75 minutes of music was so that the Bayreuth 9th could fit on a single disc?
Quote from: Harry on May 09, 2007, 09:46:35 AM
For me that would be the Dvorak Symphonies, conducted by Rafael Kubelik. :)
You mean the 7-8-9 2CD set? Because I cannot
stand his performances of 1-2-3-4.
Steve - you almost stole my choice. However, my choice is this CD:
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Which contains not only the Brahms 4, but also the Schubert Unfinished and two tracks from
Tristan und Isolde. I own both of these discs ;D , and when I saw this thread title I knew the Brahms-Schubert-Wagner CD was my choice (it's subtitled "Tribute to a Unique Artist", if I remember correctly). It's a CD that everyone -
everyone - should own. I've given it to friends who don't listen to classical.
If it can be any kind of music then this:
(http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/4563/sexpressoriginalsoundtrpp7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
S'Express - Original Soundtrack - Rhythm King Records 1989
If it has to be classical then this:
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Elgar - The Apostles - Sir Adrian Boult - EMI Classics
Quote from: O Mensch on May 09, 2007, 01:22:19 PM
It pales next to the Michelangeli I listed earlier. The master is still better than the student.
Well I am not surprised you think that. Put it this way, there are virtuosi, and then there is A. B. Michaelangeli...
Martin Frost's Mozart CD:
This one's for you David (Ross) :):
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Quote from: Bogey on May 09, 2007, 06:04:57 PM
This one's for you David (Ross) :):
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Am I the only one who heard Barry Manilow's voice when I read the above?
Quote from: George on May 09, 2007, 07:48:40 PM
Am I the only one who heard Barry Manilow's voice when I read the above?
Yes. ;D
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And seeing as we're on a Miles kick, The Complete Jack Johnson Sessions box set:
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Quote from: George on May 09, 2007, 07:48:40 PM
Am I the only one who heard Barry Manilow's voice when I read the above?
Quote from: George on May 09, 2007, 07:52:52 PM
Yeah, but now its in your head too! 8)
Nope....my natural defenses would never allow such a thing, even if I tried to,....but let me give it a whirl....................................................nope, still nada 8)
Quote from: Bogey on May 09, 2007, 07:56:49 PM
Nope....my natural defenses would never allow such a thing, even if I tried to,....but let me give it a whirl....................................................nope, still nada 8)
Same here. $:)
Liars.
Quote from: donwyn on May 09, 2007, 07:56:08 PM
And seeing as we're on a Miles kick, The Complete Jack Johnson Sessions box set:
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Don,
You are truly a "styler".
Quote from: Bogey on May 09, 2007, 08:03:01 PM
Don,
You are truly a "styler".
Thanks,
Bill Bogey!
Back at ya, man!
Quote from: bwv 1080 on May 09, 2007, 11:38:47 AM
The first thing that popped into my mind:
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Have to bring BWV's to the table as well....ok, now I'm done.
For Miles fans:
Miles circa Kind of Blue. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4FAKRpUCYY)
Electric Miles. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnFhnscKRXQ)
Quote from: brianrein on May 09, 2007, 03:03:15 PM
You mean the 7-8-9 2CD set? Because I cannot stand his performances of 1-2-3-4.
Steve - you almost stole my choice. However, my choice is this CD:
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Which contains not only the Brahms 4, but also the Schubert Unfinished and two tracks from Tristan und Isolde. I own both of these discs ;D , and when I saw this thread title I knew the Brahms-Schubert-Wagner CD was my choice (it's subtitled "Tribute to a Unique Artist", if I remember correctly). It's a CD that everyone - everyone - should own. I've given it to friends who don't listen to classical.
I'm glad that we both share a proclivity for Kleiber with Brahms. As for the Schubert's Unfinished, I've actually never heard it with Kleiber. I will certainly make an effort to acquire this one!
You're a man of good taste. :)
As far as classical:
Rachmaninov Les Vêpres Op. 37 Alexandre Svechnikov/Chœur National de l'URSS (1965)
Quote from: Shrunk on May 09, 2007, 02:46:28 PM
On the subject of Furtie, is it true that, when the CD was being developed by Sony, the reason they decided it should hold 75 minutes of music was so that the Bayreuth 9th could fit on a single disc?
I've indeed understood that when Philips (which invented the CD btw) and Sony negotiated on the future standard, the Japanese indeed insisted on a duration of 74 minutes (which was later increased a few minutes by using some extra space in the center of the disc) so LvB's 9th symphony could fit on a single CD!
But I doubt that it was a recording by Furtwängler, Sony doesn't have his recordings.
Q
P.S. You were absolutely right: it was Furtwängler's Bayreuth recording!
From the Philips site:
t was not always the technical arguments that won when choices had to be made. For example, the playing time of the CD was determined posthumously by Ludwig van Beethoven. Philips engineers had always based their work on a playing time of an hour, a few minutes longer than a double-sided LP. This meant that the existing repertoire could easily be issued on CD and, with a diameter of 11.5 cm, the CD would come very close to achieving Lou Otten's ideal compactness.
However, Sony vice-president Norio Ohga, who was responsible for the project, did not agree. "Let us take the music as the basis," he said. He hadn't studied at the Conservatory in Berlin for nothing. Ohga had fond memories of Beethoven's Ninth Symphony ('Alle Menschen werden Brüder'). That had to fit on the CD. There was room for those few extra minutes, the Philips engineers agreed. The performance by the Berlin Philharmonic, conducted by Herbert von Karajan, lasted for 66 minutes. Just to be quite sure, a check was made with Philips' subsidiary, PolyGram, to ascertain what other recordings there were. The longest known performance lasted 74 minutes. This was a mono recording made during the Bayreuther Festspiele in 1951 and conducted by Wilhelm Furtwängler. This therefore became the playing time of a CD. A diameter of 12 centimeters was required for this playing time.
BEETHOVEN Sonatas by Friedrich Gulda.
Quote from: Bogey on May 09, 2007, 06:04:57 PM
This one's for you David (Ross) :):
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I'd probably agree with this....
From a Classical perspective, at the moment I'd say
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His reading of the 4th is unmatchable.
Quote from: Bogey on May 09, 2007, 06:04:57 PM
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Agreed.
Almost no vocal music. I need this and I would give it to others if I had lots of money enabling me to do so. One singer to a part in the chorus work, but full of drama and getting to the essence of the piece.
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Good idea for a thread, interesting to see what people choose.
Mike
The following is one of my all-time favorite cds, this recording is worth its weight gold (including the casing):
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marvin
Are these some more one to a part performances?
Mike
Quote from: knight on May 10, 2007, 04:52:33 AM
Almost no vocal music.
I agree in principle with the lament,
Mike . . . in my own case, I suspect it is because I was a clarinetist before I was a chorister . . . .
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To explain my choice, I will post a review I wrote last year on amazon:
Easily one of the greatest Beethoven sets available, July 11, 2006
I happen to know for a fact that there are a number of you out there who are finding it hard to decide to pay the asking price for this set. Therefore, I shall try to explain why you should do so, immediately.
First of all, I will say that I own complete cyles by Gulda, Fischer, Schnabel, Kempff (mono), Kovacevich and Backhaus (stereo). Of these, Annie's is my favorite complete set. Easily. I also own single/double discs by Serkin, Richter, Moravec, Horowitz, Gilels, Goode, O'Conor, Pollini, Kempff (stereo), Arrau, Brendel, Jando and Rubinstein. Annie also trumps many of these as well.
Secondly, I must say that Annie's cycle is remarkably consistent, I think she does excellent or superb on 25 of the 32. In the others, she is fair or good. In my experience, this is no small feat, in fact only Gulda equals her in consistency, though not in quality. Gulda tends to rush through these works, something which doesn't always come off well and even when it does, he still lack's Fischer's depth. Schnabel's legendary set, now available on Naxos from European sellers with excellent transfers by Mark Obert-Thorn, is of course very consistent and superbly played. However, many will likely pass on this set due to the historical sound. Kempff plays these works on a smaller scale that doesn't always work for me, though few can match his tone and beauty. Backhaus's more masculine approach is more to my liking, though his fast slow movements, like Gulda, lack depth. Kovacevich's set is more agressive than even Annie's, who is surprisingly agressive when needed and deeply touching and sensitive when appropriate. She handles all three of the main periods of Lvb's works with equal achievement, an incredible feat.
Third, the quality of her playing simply has to be heard to be believed. The opening to her Appassionata sonata dispels all worries that you might have that she isn't up the job. You can listen here at Amazon on the page that hold the single disc from this set. It sounds like thunder from the heavens, as does the finale here and in the Moonlight Sonata. She finds young energy in the early works and confident strength and power in the heroic middle sonatas. Her Op. 31 is easily my favorite, combining a great sense of rhythm, drama and beauty. Her Late Sonatas are incredibly profound and gorgeous. Without resorting to some of the more extreme tempo choices others have made, she finds a style all her own that works magnificently. In fact, her tempo choices are almost always just right, never rushing, nor letting the tempo sag.
Fourth, when compared to her closest rivals, Schnabel, Gulda, and Kempff, her set has superior sound. She plays a gorgeously dark sounding Bosendorfer that was recorded remarkably well. Her recordings were made in the 70's and 80's and the close miking accurately conveys her sweet tone and powerful fortes. Sure, Goode and Kovacevich may have better sound, but IMO they don't play at her level. Goode's interpretations lack excitement at times, while Kovacevich seems to focus a bit too much on excitement.
Fifth, you will notice that the price changes from time to time by some of the marketplace sellers, buying it now saves you from paying more for it later. More importantly, there may not even be a later, for this set is hard to find as it is. This can certainly suggest that it may not stay in print. With talent like this, why gamble? This is mostly a matter of taste of course, I suggest that you listen to the samples here and compare for yourself. I really don't think that you'll be sorry if you choose Annie, though!
Link to amazon review (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/B00005YK81/sr=8-1/qid=1178802789/ref=cm_rev_sort/104-9940619-5277532?customer-reviews.sort_by=-HelpfulVotes&x=11&y=11&s=music)
Quote from: George on May 10, 2007, 05:24:25 AM
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Hah! I knew it! . . . . . .
Quote from: George on May 10, 2007, 05:24:25 AM
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Secondly, I must say that Annie's cycle is remarkably consistent, I think she does excellent or superb on 25 of the 32.
According to you, does D minor No:17 belong in the 25 or is it in the dreaded 7 :o ?
Quote from: D Minor on May 10, 2007, 05:33:36 AM
Hah! I knew it! . . . . . .
Only the price and availability kept me from picking her first. Then I decided that y'all deserve the best, whatever the cost.
Quote from: orbital on May 10, 2007, 05:41:33 AM
According to you, does D minor No:17 belong in the 25 or is it in the dreaded 7 :o ?
The Tempest, right? She remains my favorite out of 15+ versions.
Quote from: knight on May 10, 2007, 04:52:33 AM
Almost no vocal music.
True! So this would be my second choice: my favorite recording of Strauss'
Four Last Songs,
Death and Transfiguration and
Metamorphosen, with Karajan, Berlin and Gundula Janowitz. Even non-classical listeners tend to like it.
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--Bruce
Quote from: bhodges on May 10, 2007, 06:05:26 AM
True! So this would be my second choice: my favorite recording of Strauss' Four Last Songs, Death and Transfiguration and Metamorphosen, with Karajan, Berlin and Gundula Janowitz. Even non-classical listeners tend to like it.
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--Bruce
Oooh, yes! Desert island material.
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Amazed this hasn't cropped up yet. If you had never heard a note of classical music in your life this could not fail to move you.
Hurray my image worked. I can use the interweb at last!
Quote from: George on May 10, 2007, 05:42:46 AM
The Tempest, right? She remains my favorite out of 15+ versions.
Yes sir The Tempest. I find her 1st movement a little weak, almost tired. She misses a few key note durations in the begining, and it appears to me as if the later two movements were recorded at a later (or earlier) time.
(http://www.resmusica.com/images/delius_beecham.jpg)
Quote from: SimonGodders on May 10, 2007, 06:50:07 AM
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Nice. My wife always knows when springtime has arrived because I put on Brigg Fair. Just in case it hadn't twigged with the family, I always put on Sleigh Ride on Christmas day.
Even though Lenny isn't my absolute favorite conductor of Mahler, these middle symphonies and the two song cycles are superbly performed here. This is the heart of Mahler, I think, and everyone should hear them.
(http://photos.imageevent.com/sgtrock/mahler/2356198.jpg)
Sarge
Quote from: canninator on May 10, 2007, 07:06:21 AM
Nice. My wife always knows when springtime has arrived because I put on Brigg Fair. Just in case it hadn't twigged with the family, I always put on Sleigh Ride on Christmas day.
The crying shame is that EMI in their wisdom ( ::)) decided not to re-master the 2 CD original:
(http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/s172450.jpg)
The whole of the Florida suite is fantastic and would have benefited greatly from the improvement in sound, but instead they cherry picked items for a single CD. Such a missed opportunity... :'(
Ahhh! some really good stuff washing up on the shoreline. Keep them coming!
Mike
Quote from: orbital on May 10, 2007, 06:44:18 AM
Yes sir The Tempest. I find her 1st movement a little weak, almost tired. She misses a few key note durations in the begining, and it appears to me as if the later two movements were recorded at a later (or earlier) time.
She can be sloppy, but weak is one of the last adjectives that I'd use to describe her playing. :-\
Quote from: knight on May 10, 2007, 05:05:16 AM
Are these some more one to a part performances?
Mike
I am assuming you refer to the Rifkin set I recommended. The answer is YES they are one to a part performances: 1 Soprano, 1 countertenor, 1 tenor and 1 bass. The instruments used are authentic. These recordings are remarkably enjoyable.
marvin
Quote from: marvinbrown on May 10, 2007, 04:03:05 PM
I am assuming you refer to the Rifkin set I recommended. The answer is YES they are one to a part performances: 1 Soprano, 1 countertenor, 1 tenor and 1 bass. The instruments used are authentic. These recordings are remarkably enjoyable.
marvin
My sentiments as well. Rifkin also put out a more recent Bach Cantatas disc for the Dorian label that I was thrilled to receive a few years ago. Unfortunately, that recording was much less rewarding. Don't get the Dorian, cover below.
Quote from: karlhenning on May 09, 2007, 10:05:10 AM
Well, I'm taking notes, Tony 8)
I wondered how you might choose, for purposes of this thread, Harry! -- and I might have guessed that your choice would be, not the one recording, but a small parcel of recordings ;D
I've burned a Dvorak symphony cycle on cd before-- by the way of mp3 so it's alright. :)
Quote from: Bogey on May 09, 2007, 06:04:57 PM
This one's for you David (Ross) :):
(http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov250/drc900/c903/c90369l6uc6.jpg)
Bill, that's the only jazz recording in my collection! :D
Quote from: DavidW on May 10, 2007, 05:15:49 PM
Bill, that's the only jazz recording in my collection! :D
And if you finish up with only
this one, you still made the cut my friend. :)
(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/41XA4HX6HPL._AA240_.jpg)
The first generation Netherlands Wind Ensemble on 2 cds. Spectacular.
I can't pick just one.
I agree with the Annie Fischer set of the Beethoven piano sonatas.
Then, the Fleisher/Szell/Cleveland Orch set of the Beethoven Piano Concerti.
The 9 CD Rudolf Kempe box of the complete orchestral works of Richard Strauss.
The 1960 Bohm DGG recording of the Brahms First Symphony with the Berlin Phil. NOT his recording of all 4 with the Wiener Phil, though it is very good. Don't confuse the two. The one I am talking about is not available from US sources, but you can get it from Buywell in Australia on the Eloquence label for a little under $7 USD.
Quote from: Michel on May 09, 2007, 09:41:34 AM
Just for a bit of fun - what CD from your collection should be an absolute no brainer for someone building a collection? It must be an absolute personal gem, and one you would be willing to give to someone if they could only hear one piece of music in their entire life.
Please only recommend one, otherwise the fun is spoiled! Though I think we can and ought to accept cycles.
For me:
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ahhh...exquisite!
dj
What perfect taste most of you have.
As I was about to put my choice I find somebody has beaten me to it.
Therefore, Ludwig, Vickers, Frick, Berry in Klemperer's 'Fidelio', matched, arguably, surpassed, never!
Quote from: Hector on May 11, 2007, 06:22:31 AM
Therefore, Ludwig, Vickers, Frick, Berry in Klemperer's 'Fidelio', matched, arguably, surpassed, never!
I second, third, and fourth this nomination!
Quote from: Anne on May 11, 2007, 08:11:54 PM
I second, third, and fourth this nomination!
I got this one today. Boy do I love this thread. :)
Thanks everybody.
I love this thread, too. :) I'd like to mention Schubert's "Unfinished" conducted by Sinopoli
Quote from: Anne on May 12, 2007, 03:19:49 PM
I love this thread, too. :) I'd like to mention Schubert's "Unfinished" conducted by Sinopoli
That may still be unfinished, Anne. It seemed to go on forever. ;)
Quote from: BorisG on May 12, 2007, 03:25:30 PM
That may still be unfinished, Anne. It seemed to go on forever. ;)
(I won't tell anyone you said that.) ;D, 0:)
Hey BORIS,
If you really believe that the Sinopoli/Schubert/Unfinished "went on forever", then I may be "nuts", but YOU are an emotionless, heartless, automaton. And I'm glad I've never (and hopefully will never) made/make, your acquaintance.
Quote from: Iago on May 12, 2007, 05:58:30 PM
Hey BORIS,
If you really believe that the Sinopoli/Schubert/Unfinished "went on forever", then I may be "nuts", but YOU are an emotionless, heartless, automaton. And I'm glad I've never (and hopefully will never) made/make, your acquaintance.
Iago is calling me heartless. LOL
One can never quite tell, but I think he was trying to be nice.
Mike
Mahler: Symphony No. 6; Eiji Oué; Osaka Philharmonic Orchestra (Fontec) -- Live performance recording. Awesome.
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Quote from: johnshade on May 13, 2007, 09:24:42 AM
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Nick pick!
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I know that we are only allowed one recommendation and I have already had my chance, but I feel a desperate need to recommend the following recording on the basis of the following loop holes I have found in the one recommendation rule:
1) I can not claim credit for discovering this recording, it has been inspired by the following GMG members although I can not remember exactly who drew my attention to it first: Sarge, Don or Que perhaps even 71dB
2) My ever growing fascination with Bach's music
3) The wonderful clarity and energy of this recording
4) Personally I believe it to be a sin not to own this recording
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I promise no more recommendations after this one 0:).
marvin
Don't worry Marvin, I am sure Michel is the forgiving kind...just don't move to Mexico or leave any ice picks lying about.
Mike
Or hang around artists named Frida.
:D thanks guys
marvin
Quote from: BorisG on May 12, 2007, 03:25:30 PM
That may still be unfinished, Anne. It seemed to go on forever. ;)
Hey,
Boris, I fell of my chair laughing and, having read some of the following comments, can't get up ;D ;D ;D ;D.
Thank you!
Does this qualify? ;D I don't have it yet but am lusting after it...
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Quote from: Greta on May 15, 2007, 07:34:52 AM
Does this qualify? ;D I don't have it yet but am lusting after it...
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Maybe you should get it then. I don't think it is terribly expensive :)
De los Angeles, Amara, Bjoerling, Merrill, Tozzi, Reardon, Corena and of course, Sir Thomas. What a cast! What a performance!
But of course, I don't really think there is any one recording everyone should have.
Quote from: Xenophanes on May 15, 2007, 08:01:41 AM
But of course, I don't really think there is any one recording everyone should have.
I know, I know!
All the same, this week I am close to thinking that this is the recording everyone must own:
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Quote from: marvinbrown on May 14, 2007, 07:31:44 AM
I can not remember exactly who drew my attention to it first: Sarge, Don or Que perhaps even 71dB
It was not me. I don't know this set, unfortunately according to your words.
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Quote from: Greta on May 15, 2007, 07:34:52 AM
Does this qualify? ;D I don't have it yet but am lusting after it...
(http://img.hmv.co.jp/image/jacket/190/18/1/0/539.jpg)
You should give in to your lustful desires. ;D
Seriously, this is a marvelous recording. Szell knew he was dying, and so did the orchestra, and the emotion they poured into the Sibelius
Second Symphony is palpable. I'm not even that much of a fan of this particular Sibelius (I just like some of the other symphonies more) but this recording is quite special.
--Bruce
This one:
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Quote from: Mark on May 16, 2007, 05:52:33 AM
This one:
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Excellent call my friend.....and welcome back.
http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,809.40.html
Hey, it's that Vespers guy! ;D Seriously, welcome back...
--Bruce
Hello chaps. Nice to be back. :)
Quote from: karlhenning on May 15, 2007, 08:18:44 AM
All the same, this week I am close to thinking that this is the recording everyone must own:
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I was quite disappointed by this cycle, not least due to an orchestra that seemed to lack any real power. The first movement of the 8th was a bit of a wimper compared to others I have heard and the scherzo of the 11th was not particularly visceral. However, many of the other symphonies (1,4,6,9,10,14,15) did seem a lot better but my favourite symphonies (5,8,11,13) were not so enjoyable. Perhaps not then a recording that
everyone should own.
Quote from: Mark on May 16, 2007, 06:01:52 AM
Hello chaps. Nice to be back. :)
Hello
Mark! Nice to see you again! :)
Quote from: from the new world on May 16, 2007, 06:07:43 AM
I was quite disappointed by this cycle, not least due to an orchestra that seemed to lack any real power. The first movement of the 8th was a bit of a wimper compared to others I have heard and the scherzo of the 11th was not particularly visceral. However, many of the other symphonies (1,4,6,9,10,14,15) did seem a lot better but my favourite symphonies (5,8,11,13) were not so enjoyable. Perhaps not then a recording that everyone should own.
Well,
naturalmente, "everyone" in the subject heading is a rhetorical exaggeration :)
I'm still in the process of marshaling my thoughts, and listening, and listening some more, and will report at tedious (well, I hope not, really) length later. You must admit that "many of the other symphonies (1,4,6,9,10,14,15)" makes an impressively substantial "however"! Neither will I yield ground on Nos. 5, 8, 13 or 11 (of which, the first three I list are certainly among favorites of my own, as well); in fact, I was signally impressed with the
Fifth, particularly.
Chacun à ses oreilles, to be sure; by my ears, there is not a weak account among the 15, and each of them has significant strengths.
More Later™
Quote from: karlhenning on May 16, 2007, 06:21:51 AM
Well, naturalmente, "everyone" in the subject heading is a rhetorical exaggeration :)
I'm still in the process of marshaling my thoughts, and listening, and listening some more, and will report at tedious (well, I hope not, really) length later. You must admit that "many of the other symphonies (1,4,6,9,10,14,15)" makes an impressively substantial "however"! Neither will I yield ground on Nos. 5, 8, 13 or 11 (of which, the first three I list are certainly among favorites of my own, as well); in fact, I was signally impressed with the Fifth, particularly. Chacun à ses oreilles, to be sure; by my ears, there is not a weak account among the 15, and each of them has significant strengths.
More Later™
I'm also quite taken with Maxim's set. My basic motivation for buying it was that I wasn't going to let interpretations by the composer's son pass me by.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Myaskovsky-Symphony-No-Kirill-Kondrashin/dp/B000OGYNEE/ref=sr_1_26/026-0945451-0042845?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1179326759&sr=1-26
Quote from: marvinbrown on May 14, 2007, 07:31:44 AM
4) Personally I believe it to be a sin not to own this recording
I'm a sinner . . . . . .
I prefer the Takacs and Borodin renditions of op.132, and the Quartetto Italiano op.59, but overall this set is fantastic, well worth having alone if you want only one set.
Bending the rules a bit--sorry:
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Why? Collectively, a pinnacle of Western culture that any lover of art and beauty should experience, and this particular set is amazing for its combination of overall quality and comically low price.
As for just one disc, I have to affirm what others have suggested:
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A sublime album by one of the twentieth century's key musicians. It's a landmark in jazz, America's great indigenous art form and contribution to world culture.
Quote from: Haffner on May 16, 2007, 07:34:57 AM
I prefer the Takacs and Borodin renditions of op.132, and the Quartetto Italiano op.59, but overall this set is fantastic, well worth having alone if you want only one set.
Yes, the stereo Vegh is another fine recording that I have found as a result of my membership here.
Strongly seconded! :)
This one
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Quote from: Bruckner is God on May 16, 2007, 08:25:33 AM
This one
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Yes ! And these this:
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and this:
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Quote from: George on May 16, 2007, 08:20:39 AM
Yes, the stereo Vegh is another fine recording that I have found as a result of my membership here.
Strongly seconded! :)
If I were on a desert island, I doubt I could do any better. I'd have op.135 to fuel my decision making on the island; op.59 as a selfishly restrained amount of bliss; op.132 which has alternating incidences and degrees of both the former String Quartets'.
Morning renewal and redemption with the Quartetto Serioso, also opps.18 and 127.
Afternoon gratitude and wonder. Opps.59 and 132.
Evening starting with the Harp Quartet, into the depths of op.131. Play the Hym of Thanksgiving before bed time.
I could think of worse life on a desert island.
Quote from: Haffner on May 16, 2007, 08:48:16 AM
If I were on a desert island, I doubt I could do any better. I'd have op.135 to fuel my decision making on the island; op.59 as a selfishly restrained amount of bliss; op.132 which has alternating incidences and degrees of both the former String Quartets'.
Morning renewal and redemption with the Quartetto Serioso, also opps.18 and 127.
Afternoon gratitude and wonder. Opps.59 and 132.
Evening starting with the Harp Quartet, into the depths of op.131. Play the Hym of Thanksgiving before bed time.
I could think of worse life on a desert island.
That desert island life sounds positively tempting. I understand that I need that set! ;D
Quote from: Haffner on May 16, 2007, 08:48:16 AM
If I were on a desert island, I doubt I could do any better. I'd have op.135 to fuel my decision making on the island; op.59 as a selfishly restrained amount of bliss; op.132 which has alternating incidences and degrees of both the former String Quartets'.
Morning renewal and redemption with the Quartetto Serioso, also opps.18 and 127.
Afternoon gratitude and wonder. Opps.59 and 132.
Evening starting with the Harp Quartet, into the depths of op.131. Play the Hym of Thanksgiving before bed time.
I could think of worse life on a desert island.
You should write reviews. :)
Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on May 16, 2007, 08:34:41 AM
Yes ! And these this:
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and this:
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I would like to know what you think of Celi's 5th, as I have just bought it for around £13 (wheras it normally apperas for £50 or more ;D)
I have the 8th, and it is my favourite performance, although I rarely have the stamina to listen to it completely.
Quote from: from the new world on May 16, 2007, 10:47:42 AM
I would like to know what you think of Celi's 5th, as I have just bought it for around £13 (wheras it normally apperas for £50 or more ;D)
I have the 8th, and it is my favourite performance, although I rarely have the stamina to listen to it completely.
Sorry, I have only the 4th, 7th and 8th. From what I gather from reviewers #9 and #6 are also must-hears.
Actually #8 once you start listening to it doesn't sound THAT long, certainly doesn't feel like it's over 100 minutes long.
Yeah Celi's Bruckner is expensive.
For just a moment there, I thought you meant "expansive" 0:)
bruckner #6, bongartz/gewandhaus :)
dj
Quote from: karlhenning on May 16, 2007, 11:50:35 AM
For just a moment there, I thought you meant "expansive" 0:)
That would be an understatement.
I'd personally recommend this one:
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:)
PS : edited for numerical abuse ;D
Celibidache's Bruckner 9 is a waste of space.
Quote from: papy on May 16, 2007, 12:59:48 PM
I'd personally recommend those two :
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Actually, two is cheating $:), so I left the one I know and second the recommendation. A wonderful disc (mine has a different cover though)...
Maciek
Quote from: MrOsa on May 16, 2007, 01:18:01 PM
Actually, two is cheating $:), so I left the one I know and second the recommendation. A wonderful disc (mine has a different cover though)...
Maciek
I've edited my original post to stay on topic 0:) ...and kept this one too !! ;)
Aw, you didn't have to. I was just joking. Many people have committed numerical abuse on earlier pages and got away with it.
Maciek
Quote from: MrOsa on May 16, 2007, 01:34:16 PM
Aw, you didn't have to. I was just joking. Many people have committed numerical abuse on earlier pages and got away with it.
Maciek
No worries, i'll post more in later pages ;)
[subliminal message]
Buy : Tallis - Spem in Alum / Naxos / Oxford Camerata - Jeremy Summerly
;D
[/subliminal message]
Quote from: Michel on May 16, 2007, 01:12:57 PM
Celibidache's Bruckner 9 is a waste of space.
No, that's where it should be sent:"Beam me up Scottie."
The 4th is essential, though.
Quote from: MrOsa on May 16, 2007, 01:34:16 PM
Many people have committed numerical abuse on earlier pages and got away with it.
Where's the outrage? ;)
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Oh, did Dvořák write a tango? ;D
Quote from: karlhenning on May 17, 2007, 06:53:48 AM
Oh, did Dvořák write a tango? ;D
Or Appalachian washboard? ;D
Quote from: BorisG on May 17, 2007, 09:12:44 AM
Or Appalachian washboard? ;D
If we're going to talk world music, there are three CDs everyone should own:
Simon Shaheen and al-Qantara Blue Flame
Finjan Crossing Selkirk Avenue
Chen Jun Erhu Classics
:)
How's that for numerical abuse?
On jazz I like Davis' Kind of Blue but If I were to pick one jazz album I'd go for this:
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Its quite different to A Love Supreme which often gets cited as his 'best'. [I find it too busy/exhausting]
I think Ballads is a gorgeous gem with the only criticism being thats its too short.
Quote from: Solitary Wanderer on May 17, 2007, 07:09:57 PM
On jazz I like Davis' Kind of Blue but If I were to pick one jazz album I'd go for this:
Its quite different to A Love Supreme which often gets cited as his 'best'. [I find it too busy/exhausting]
I think Ballads is a gorgeous gem with the only criticism being thats its too short.
I do not have the Ballads album.....heard snippits here and there. I am guessing that if I grabbed one 'Trane cd it would be with this line-up, but it would be one of their live recordings. However, I will check into the Ballads a bit more due to your post.
I'm torn between two (both of the same composer's music), but I'll go with:
Vaughan Williams (http://"http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/details/66420.asp"): Serenade to Music, Five Mystical Songs, Fantasia on Christmas Carols, and Flos Campi; Corydon Singers and English Chamber Orchestra (+ many soloists), Matthew Best, on Hyperion.
I pick this only because it contains what has to be the best recording of my favorite musical "moment" of all time: the magical climax at "And draw her home with music" about two-thirds of the way through the piece. I first heard this on a tape of a radio recording--I can't even tell you who was singing. But that moment was so overwhelming and astonishing--who ever dared to write a piece with 16 soloists as a chorus?--that even with that bad recording, that it cemented RVW as my favorite composer. I've strayed here and there, but he's always the composer I turn to when I need to raise flagging spirits.
Plus, it doesn't hurt that it features great recordings of the other three pieces (particularly Flos Campi, a pseudo-concerto for viola in which VW somehow manages to wring more emotion out of a wordless choir in twenty minutes than most composers get out of a chorus in their entire oeuvres).
Also, when did this thread get filled full of Jazz jizz?
Quote from: Michel on May 19, 2007, 11:55:33 PM
Also, when did this thread get filled full of Jazz jizz?
Oh, it started several pages back...
Pretty cool, huh?
"Jazz is America's classical music."
Quote from: dtwilbanks on May 20, 2007, 08:35:34 AM
"Jazz is America's classical music."
That's what I learned in school. :-\
Quote from: George on May 20, 2007, 08:37:09 AM
That's what I learned in school. :-\
Go listen to some hard bop, George.
Quote from: dtwilbanks on May 20, 2007, 08:38:02 AM
Go listen to some hard bop, George.
Instead I shall start a new Rock Thread in the diner: you guessed it: "The one Rock album that you think everyone should own." (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,995.new.html#new)
AND soon: get outside with my guitar in the park. Last year I could play "Mad World" by Tears for Fears, I hope I still got it.
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OK, it's a DVD but it's still a recording. However, if you want a CD then this
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or this:
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and this is all because someone already recommended ABM/Ravel G major/Rach PC 4!
Quote from: Holden on May 20, 2007, 01:27:45 PM
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OK, it's a DVD but it's still a recording. However, if you want a CD then this
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and this is all because someone already recommended ABM/Ravel G major/Rach PC 4!
Schwarzkopf singing the last movment of Mahler's 4th? Now that is a must heard. It must have exactly the opposite effect Mahler is after.
Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on May 20, 2007, 02:35:43 PM
Schwarzkopf singing the last movment of Mahler's 4th? Now that is a must heard. It must have exactly the opposite effect Mahler is after.
It does.
The first three movements are excellent, though.
Quote from: edward on May 20, 2007, 03:55:47 PM
It does.
The first three movements are excellent, though.
The concept of the beautiful childlike voice in this movement is somewhat specious to say the least. All you have to do is look at the sopranos that Bruno Walter used to confirm that and he was Mahler's understudy. Imagine a child breathlessly trying to tell you what she/he imagines everyday life in heaven is like and you'll see why the Schwarzkopf performance is so inspired.
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Quote from: sidoze on June 07, 2007, 02:48:37 PM
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It doesn't get much better than this cd, dreamcast, dream cd!!
The other couple I have heard along with the 5th from this series too are winners, as far as to say downright better performances than that old famous DG box set ;D
Hmm - I haven't got any of the recordings pictured in this thread...
I suppose anyone faintly interested in post-romantic symphonies ought to have the Barshai Shostakovich set for the overall quality of performance, playing and sound and the incredible lack of money you have to splash out on it!
Quote from: sidoze on June 07, 2007, 02:48:37 PM
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My copy arrived last week and it is everything I had hoped for. That said, I wouldn't want to be without Ferrier/Walter. Luckily I don't have to be.
Here is my review of the above recording from the old site....
Das Lied von der Erde (1907)
I have been listing to my newly acquired Kubelik recording of Mahler's The Song of the Earth, bought on recommendation from several posters; for which MANY thanks. I have been sampling some of my other versions along side and am sharing the following thoughts.
Although stated to be live, unlike the Leppard version, there are no chronic coughers. In that performance several of the audience are well recorded for posterity along with Janet Baker and a strenuous John Mitchinson. But, despite the audience being silent for Kubelik, it cannot have been through boredom. This is a version that grips and penetrates deep into this mysterious world.
The ancient Chinese poems were filtered first through French and then German adaptations and Mahler made some additional alterations. The final song, lasting around half an hour, is as long as all the other five songs put together. The work includes despair, resignation, observations on youth, friendship and on parting. There is a song by a drunk, bitter in his isolation. Mahler again highlights his preoccupation with death. By 1907 his own fatal heart disease had been diagnosed. He described the work as a 'symphony with voices'; it was unnumbered, but came after the Eighth Symphony. Mahler was in part avoiding the omen of completing a ninth symphony; the total produced by Beethoven and Bruckner, two giants whose output Mahler was afraid he would not exceed before death claimed him. Despite this attempt to cheat fate, he did die before completing his tenth symphony.
I have been running the new version up against the other two with Janet Baker, Haitink and Leppard and Tennstedt, Klemperer and Levine.
Several times I heard Janet Baker sing in this work, she never had a tenor partner who came up to her standard and neither the Leppard nor the Haitink seemed to me to measure up to my memories of how she communicated when I heard her. The Kubelik certainly makes up for that. But we are nowhere without the conductors, so what of them.
Tennstedt is about the slowest, that does not mean much on its own. He and Levine each take 67 minutes, Klemperer and Kubelik 62, Haitink 64. ( Walter's famous Decca version is shortest at 60 minutes) However I feel there are two basic approaches. There is a detached stoic approach best epitomised by Klemperer and there is a more overt grief laden path taken by Tennstedt, Levine and Kubelik.
In the past I have found Kubelik a bit cool, sane and under emotional for how I like my Mahler. Though his version of the First Symphony is my favourite. However here, live, he fuels the music with energy and emotion. The extended orchestral passage in the middle of the final song is like a full symphony compressed and ultra expressive. The orchestra sound great with expressive playing from the soloists at various points. The first song is unleashed upon us and the lonely one in Autumn, the Alto's first song, is tender. He races Janet Baker through the imagery of the galloping horses in the fourth song and she only just hold on. I think that is the only tempo I would change, and it is over in a few seconds.
Tennstedt to my mind relaxes the pace when he wants to draw our attention to detail and I feel the piece slows too often. Levine's is a version I am constantly surprised that I like. I have said the orchestral sound it too fat, but I was wrong, it is glossy. Beautiful playing, the sound is glamorous. I am not suggesting that is wrong, just that it is a different sound world from Klemperer. His version sounds hewn in stone, unyielding, stoic but not at all disinterested. It has long been one of my favourites despite the lack of obvious emotion. He has the best equipped tenor in Fritz Wunderlich who launches himself against the mountains of sound in the first song. It is terrifically exciting. He has sweetness of tone in his third song. But, his word pointing is not detailed and those singers with lesser equipment work harder with the words. Waldemar Kmentt for Kubelik is clearly strained by the high lying passages of his second song, but he uses the words to create three dimensional characters, especially in the bitterness of 'The Drunk Man in Spring'. An intelligent singer. King for Haitink is in better voice, but he is faceless. That epitomises Haitink's approach, famous for not getting in the way of the composer, I don't respond in my guts to his detachment. Baker sings well for him, but there is a lot more variation in tone colour to her performance with Kubelik, despite it having been recorded earlier. I like the placing of the voices in the Kubelik, they have presence and they are forward rather than integrated. Personal taste, but that's how I like it so I can hear all the expression. Baker is wonderful, she dares threads of tone and has heft to deal thrillingly with appropriate passages.
Ludwig for Klemperer is a different kind of singer and in any case she is according with the restrained approach of Klemperer. She never deployed the variety of tone that was Baker's hallmark, but the voice is grave and beautiful. Jessye Norman for Levine is as good as any and the music sounds as though it was written for her voice. Supposedly a soprano, she plumbs the ledger lines with the tone of a contralto. She has a tendency to slide expressively up to notes, but although it may disturb some, it does not disturb me. Her Abschied is terrific. She is partnered by Siegfried Jerusalem, he is nearest to Wunderlich, but with more word painting. He manages all kinds of full, half and soft tone in that strenuous second song. Levine, despite being slower than some is not sluggish. He pushes Norman exactly where Kubelik pushed Baker, a bit less hectic and the song gains from it. Baltsa is the alto for Tennstedt. Going straight from Norman to Baltsa is a shock. Her sound seems to come from the mask, forward, not much resonance a focused but acidic sound. Not much to my taste. It was recorded in 1984 and the voice is loosening by then, the glamour gone.
So, so many riches, I have not been looking for an outright winner as this masterwork yields to different approaches. I have not used all the versions I have, I would never part with the Walter. There has only been one looser, Haitink. What I now have however is a version that excites me and replicates my memories of the beauty and expressiveness of Janet Baker's singing, introduces me to an intelligent tenor I did not know and makes me think I need to listen to more live Kubelik Mahler.
Mike
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A recording I immediately fell for, still enjoy much the same as at first hearing. A classic.
Quote from: Bogey on May 09, 2007, 08:54:41 PM
As far as classical:
Rachmaninov Les Vêpres Op. 37 Alexandre Svechnikov/Chœur National de l'URSS (1965)
Since Mark has the above covered, and then some, I will go with:
Beethoven Cello Sonatas+ Casals/Horszowski et. al. (Pearl)
Dvorak's Stabat Mater conducted by Sinopoli.
Quote from: Philoctetes on June 10, 2007, 02:58:54 PM
Dvorak's Stabat Mater conducted by Sinopoli.
Thanks for posting this. I had not known about it.
Schubert's "Unfinished" Sym. by Sinopoli is not to be missed either!
Beethoven's violin concerto, Slovak Philharmonic/Kenneth Jean with Takako Nishizaki on the violin. Naxos.
Brilliant violin playing...
Quote from: Bonehelm on June 10, 2007, 10:18:57 PM
Beethoven's violin concerto, Slovak Philharmonic/Kenneth Jean with Takako Nishizaki on the violin. Naxos.
Brilliant violin playing...
Y'know, I really like this, too. Beats the pants off that awful Vengerov/Rostropovich recording ...
This is an all-time great. The atmosphere Reiner conjures up in "Pines" and "Fountains" is palpable.
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Y'know, I really like this, too. Beats the pants off that awful Vengerov/Rostropovich recording ...
Mark, I especially liked the cadenza in the rondo movement. It's gorgeous. Not as off-showy as Perlman. Very lyrical and romantic.
Quote from: Bonehelm on June 13, 2007, 07:59:58 PM
Mark, I especially liked the cadenza in the rondo movement. It's gorgeous. Not as off-showy as Perlman. Very lyrical and romantic.
Not heard the Perlman, so I can't comment. I just like the fact that it all holds together so well. People tell me that the Harnoncourt/Kremer recording on Erato (and now on Elatus) is worth hearing.
Had Mike not already chosen it, I would have gone for the Paul McCreesh Matthew Passion.
Happily he did choose it, allowing me to recommend another astonishing, pared-down HIP recording: The Dunedin Consort's Messiah.
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Uses small vocal forces (12 voices total) - a well-honed, cohesive band of committed singers who act as both soloists and choir. Crisp, crunchy instrumental textures. Beautiful and refreshing. An aural indigestion tablet for those who have overindulged on heavy, traditional Christmas Messiahs.
Probably this:
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Or:
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Quote from: sadness on September 13, 2007, 10:35:00 PM
Probably this:
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Sweet! I got both. :D
Nothing seems to work for me .... feel pretty dumb !!
Quote from: alkan on September 14, 2007, 05:49:48 AM
Nothing seems to work for me .... feel pretty dumb !!
Hey Alkan, check out this thread:
http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,302.0.html
Donwyn's post halfway down is particularly helpful :).
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If I could only save one CD from my burning house, this would be it
Quote from: Novitiate on September 14, 2007, 06:05:38 AM
Hey Alkan, check out this thread:
http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,302.0.html
Donwyn's post halfway down is particularly helpful :).
Thanks Novitiate ..... it worked !!! ..... as you can see above.
Best wishes ....
The single disc I'd recommend anyone listens to, if they ever listen to one recording of music, is the following:
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But the single disc I'd save from my own house if it were burning, is this one:
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I'm cheating, I know. But the former is etched so deeply into my memory that I don't need the disc all that much, anymore; whereas the latter I relish listening to! Especially given what it stands for, and the way it "speaks" to me every time...
(Though truth be told, the Bruckner 8th by the same orchestra and conductor would not be far behind. But now I'm digressing. :-X)
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Probably known to all music fans ;D
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Wow! I'd love to own that one!! Perhaps someone will upload it to mediafire for me. ::)
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If I could only save one CD from my burning house, this would be it
I might like something happier. ::)
Quote from: BorisG on September 14, 2007, 01:52:59 PM
I might like something happier. ::)
Like Jan and Dean?
Quote from: George on September 14, 2007, 11:33:46 AM
Wow! I'd love to own that one!! Perhaps someone will upload it to mediafire for me. ::)
It's quite good, actually. Though I'm generally not much of a fan of the composer, I'll admit. ;)
Bernstein with NYPO, Orchestre de Paris, London Symphony Orchestra, Orchester des Kirow-Theatres Leningrad, Staatskapelle Dresden, Symphonie-Orchester Bayerischen Rundfunks.
Ode to Freedom. Just get it for the historical value, especially if you have experienced the Berlin Wall fall event yourself in Germany. It makes you cry...in pure joy.
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Monumental, gorgeous, and very moving.
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Monumental, gorgeous, and very moving.
Tremendous!
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Monumental, gorgeous, and very moving.
Yes I agree. I bought this recording last month and was very impressed.
marvin
these are no-brainers for Beethoven fans.
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Monumental, gorgeous, and very moving.
I've slammed this recording so many times around here that I've not the will to do it once more. But please, hear Sinopoli and the Czech Philharmonic on DG before settling for this one. ;)
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This 3-disc set.
If only a single disc is allowed, I would choose Disc No. 1, with the two Haydn concertos.
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TIME PASSING
PARADISE
THEN DESSERT
all sung by the Goddess
I am only interested in GREAT recordings. If it is not GREAT then who needs it?
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The very best Bruckner 8th (live studio 1974) along with nearly the best Schubert 9th available (live 1979, much better than DG set performance) 2CD set currently oop and very expensive used......for reasons just mentioned
I think I have recommended this recording of the Leningrad in the past but the accolades surrounding it are all true. If you have not heard it you have not heard this work, to use an old cliche:
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The Elgar CD mainly for Janet Baker's Sea Pictures. I haven't heard a recording to rival it, though I believe Elgar had a true contralto in mind rather than a mezzo. And yes, I prefer the more colorful Neumann Vixen over the Mackerras. But be careful; there's a recording of an older Neumann recording in inferior sound floating about.
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I blow hot and cold on the Serenade. Sometimes I can't abide it, and sometimes I find it the most beautiful
music I've ever heard. There's an older mono recording that some prefer, but this stereo is also a classic sonically.
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Ignore the fact that the cover of the Bartok set has the current personnel. This is the 1963 set. The Talich Slavonic Dances from the 50s is a great example of Czech style and sound.
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The Beecham disc is inexplicably out of print. The Tashi disc has never gone out of print.
Sorry, IMHO there is NO one recording I believe everyone should own, even my absolute favorite. Everyone's tastes are different.
I usually play a few recordings for visitors and get a feel for what they like, and then let them pick from my collection what to listen to next.
Wet blanket!
If we're going to go with Miles Davis then I choose Something Else, with Cannonball Adderley, Hank Jones, et al.
After reading this thread, I found others recommend John Coltrane, Miles Davis, etc,. For me:
If it comers to Classical, I choose .... Bach - St. Matthew Passion - Karl Richter 1959 DGG
It its come to Jazz, I choose ........... Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
If it comes to Rock, I choose ........... Def Leppard: Hysteria
If it comes to Metal, I choose .......... Metallica: ... and Justice for All
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The Elgar CD mainly for Janet Baker's Sea Pictures.
:o :o :o No mention of THE ONE AND ONLY Cello conc./interpretation? This clearly is a case of blasphemy! GMG religious court, please! ;)
My choice is only for sentimental reasons... Probably not useful for most people.
Quote from: Michel on May 09, 2007, 09:41:34 AM
Just for a bit of fun - what CD from your collection should be an absolute no brainer for someone building a collection? It must be an absolute personal gem, and one you would be willing to give to someone if they could only hear one piece of music in their entire life.
Please only recommend one, otherwise the fun is spoiled! Though I think we can and ought to accept cycles.
For me:
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At this very moment, I'd choose this as
THE CD for someone else's collection:
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At this very moment, I'd choose this as
THE cycle for someone else's collection:
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Roll die. WEEEEEEEE
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or
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or
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or
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or
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or
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I second the Bartok/Reiner as the SINGLE disc to try people on.
Goodness! When I first saw this I thought "Michel" had returned! Hope he's recovered fully from his accident and has found better ways to occupy himself.
Welcome, Chung! The Reiner disc is a classic, alright!
Heck, it's impossible to come up with one work--or even to decide on the genre!--that everyone should own, let alone one recording of it. That Takacs late quartets set comes as close as any, I suppose. ;)
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This stunning collage by Marcel Faust "charts" the decline of a society into crazed hysteria & violence. It is worth getting up a bit of German to follow some of the subtleties - but the popular music of the Weimar republic is riveting in any case, with great songs by Eisler, Holländer & Co; the one Wagner excerpt makes a horrifying impact in the context (basically anticipating all modern productions of the Ring). The record (I also have the original LP, shorter than the full version on CD) has never been especially popular in the Federal Republic and was long unavailable - too painful, I suppose.
I don't think there is one disc everyone should own, but I am happy to name one disc everyone should hear (they have my blessing to sell it if they don't like it). That would Nikolaus Harnoncourt's recordings of the Late Mozart Symphonies, made with the Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra.
It was probably 1982 and I was at J&R music world shopping for LPs when I saw the recording of Symphony No 38. I had heard Harnoncourt's recordings of Bach, but was astonished to see he was conducting Mozart with a Modern orchestra. When I brought it home and listened to it I was astonished. Mozart with blaring brass and pounding drums, not the prissy, polite Mozart of Neville Marriner. The next day I was back at J&R getting the other recordings from the series, and I vividly remember riding the train back with several of the LPs in the bag, anxious to get them on the turntable.
Since then a number of conductors have recorded Mozart Symphonies with the brio that Harnoncourt brought to those works, but Harnoncourt was the first that I knew of.
Quote from: snyprrr on December 30, 2010, 07:23:03 PM
I second the Bartok/Reiner as the SINGLE disc to try people on.
I dunno. I think it's overrated. The Reiner CfO was my introduction to the work, but I think there are better recordings now.
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If I could only save one CD from my burning house, this would be it
I attended a concert of Britten's War Requiem in Paris in 1976, at Saint-Denis Church. Great venue for a great piece of music.
Tchaikovsky trio op.50 by Gilels-Kogan-Rostropovich,live. IMO the best recording of that magnificent work, and one of the best chamber recordings of all time.
Quote from: Brewski on May 09, 2007, 02:07:54 PM
My first thoughts were that Kleiber Beethoven 5 and 7, and the Boulez sonatas with Jumppanen is an intriguing choice.
By these criteria, I would pick my favorite CD, and hope that any one of the three works on it would appeal to a listener. I do think that everyone should have one version of each of these pieces in his or her library, even if on another recording, but this is an excellent trio, all composed at roughly the same time.
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Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra
Riccardo Chailly, conductor
Mosolov: Iron Foundry (1928)
Varèse: Arcana (1925-27)
Prokofiev: Symphony No. 3 (1928)
--Bruce
Just came across this thread, interesting concept...but was thrilled to see this! That's a real good disc, Bruce, great choice.
Of course you did post this 5 years ago, may not be your favorite anymore, but it's nice to see this recording get some love.
What a marvelous thread idea! Thanks for reviving this, Greg.
Anyway, I'm not sure if my suggestion would "do it" for anyone into classical music but one recording I believe everyone should own is this one:
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This may be an unconventional choice and it may be a choice many may just flat-out disagree with BUT I think it's one of the most magnificent recordings I've ever heard of ANY genre. All of the works have a passion and thirst for all the great things life has to offer. Those that have an ear for music must hear this recording.
Here's my current recommendation:
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Quote from: CaughtintheGaze on July 15, 2012, 07:53:57 PM
Here's my current recommendation:
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Ahh! Good choice, Philo, some wonderful performances in there.
Quote from: Mirror Image on July 15, 2012, 07:50:05 PM
What a marvelous thread idea! Thanks for reviving this, Greg.
Anyway, I'm not sure if my suggestion would "do it" for anyone into classical music but one recording I believe everyone should own is this one:
This may be an unconventional choice and it may be a choice many may just flat-out disagree with BUT I think it's one of the most magnificent recordings I've ever heard of ANY genre. All of the works have a passion and thirst for all the great things life has to offer. Those that have an ear for music must hear this recording.
Has me intrigued, thanks for posting, John.
Quote from: TheGSMoeller on July 15, 2012, 07:59:29 PM
Ahh! Good choice, Philo, some wonderful performances in there.
The Sprach and Eine on this disc are my preferred performances, and all of the rest on the disc are also quite fine. I think the Kempe box is, overall, the best, but that isn't in most folk's price range (at least new).
Quote from: CaughtintheGaze on July 15, 2012, 08:01:56 PM
The Sprach and Eine on this disc are my preferred performances, and all of the rest on the disc are also quite fine. I think the Kempe box is, overall, the best, but that isn't in most folk's price range (at least new).
As a whole I almost find Kempe unbeatable, but Solti creates such excitement with these pieces, especially Zarathustra.
Quote from: TheGSMoeller on July 15, 2012, 08:06:21 PM
As a whole I almost find Kempe unbeatable, but Solti creates such excitement with these pieces, especially Zarathustra.
I find that Soliti, when it comes to the brass, especially the lower brass, is the best (at least when the sound doesn't have to be refined, as in Bruckner).
Quote from: TheGSMoeller on July 15, 2012, 07:59:29 PMHas me intrigued, thanks for posting, John.
You're welcome, Greg. I'm sure you can YouTube Bantock and hear these works. I took a risk on Bantock a few years ago and just bought the whole orchestral set (Handley/RPO). Looking back now, I'm happy I did. Imagine R. Strauss mixed with RVW and Elgar and you have an idea of Bantock's sound.
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I would have to say:
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I would have to say:
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I don't think this would count would it? This is huge box set. I think what the OP was asking for was a single release not a large multi-disc box set.
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Quote from: Mirror Image on July 16, 2012, 07:32:18 AM
I don't think this would count would it? This is huge box set. I think what the OP was asking for was a single release not a large multi-disc box set.
Perhaps, although quite a few people have posted box sets here... Anyway, if it just has to be one then I would probably have to say Lenny's DG 6.
Alternative choice: Harnoncourt's Slavonic Dances!
Quote from: madaboutmahler on July 16, 2012, 08:51:18 AM
Perhaps, although quite a few people have posted box sets here... Anyway, if it just has to be one then I would probably have to say Lenny's DG 6.
Alternative choice: Harnoncourt's Slavonic Dances!
Hmm...LB's Mahler 6th on DG? I'll have to go back and listen to that one again. I remember it being very good.
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I can think of several others that rank higher on my list of personal favorites, but this one is the only one I could feel safe recommending to someone as an initiation.
I would have really liked to say Karajan's Wagner Der Ring des Nibelungen, but about single recordings:
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Quote from: Mirror Image on July 16, 2012, 09:03:57 AM
Hmm...LB's Mahler 6th on DG? I'll have to go back and listen to that one again. I remember it being very good.
Yes, it certainly is, John! One of my favourite M6s, and one of Sarge's too I believe. :)
Quote from: Mirror Image on July 16, 2012, 07:32:18 AM
I don't think this would count would it? This is huge box set. I think what the OP was asking for was a single release not a large multi-disc box set.
The OP stated that cycles were ok to use, although paying any attention to what a guest said a few years ago might be extreme.
Quote from: Sammy on July 16, 2012, 09:58:23 AM
The OP stated that cycles were ok to use, although paying any attention to what a guest said a few years ago might be extreme.
The title of the thread should be "Recordings You Believe Everyone Should Own." I was merely going by the title of the thread, but I guess now I'm just nitpicking for no good reason. :-\
Do not fear to pick nits....
Quote from: madaboutmahler on July 16, 2012, 08:51:18 AM
... Anyway, if it just has to be one then I would probably have to say Lenny's DG 6.
But ...
Lenny didn't
record the
Sibelius Sixth for DG, did he?
; )
Quote from: karlhenning on July 16, 2012, 12:47:34 PM
But ... Lenny didn't record the Sibelius Sixth for DG, did he? ; )
He's clearly referring to the great no.6 of Haydn, but not sure that has a DG either? ;)
Quote from: karlhenning on July 16, 2012, 12:47:34 PM
But ... Lenny didn't record the Sibelius Sixth for DG, did he? ; )
Quote from: TheGSMoeller on July 16, 2012, 12:56:50 PM
He's clearly referring to the great no.6 of Haydn, but not sure that has a DG either? ;)
;D
Hmmm...I thought Daniel was referring to Bernstein's Shostakovich 6th on DG with the VPO. ;) ;D
I thought I was referring to the recording where Bernstein came back to life and recording Segerstam's 6th for DG.... ;D
You've been reading too many zombie stories! : )
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Here's my choice for the one recording, simply for the cover, Levine never looked so, swampy.
;D
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Alright, here's a serious one...
Two electrifying and dramatic readings of two of 20th centuries best symphonies.
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Here's my choice for the one recording, simply for the cover, Levine never looked so, swampy.
This looks Photoshopped. I can tell from the pixels and from seeing quite a few Photoshops in my time.
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This looks Photoshopped. I can tell from the pixels and from seeing quite a few Photoshops in my time.
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It very much is photoshopped by yours truly, and trust me I certainly wasn't trying to hide it. Just a little fun.
The usual.
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Shostakovich's Preludes and Fugues by Ashkenazy
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Shostakovich's Preludes and Fugues by Ashkenazy
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Second that one.
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Shostakovich's Preludes and Fugues by Ashkenazy
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I own that one and find it quite good. However, Nikolayeva's my top pick.
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Shostakovich's Preludes and Fugues by Ashkenazy
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That's a very beautiful recording, Ashkenazy's performance is absolutely gorgeous.
Quote from: Lisztianwagner on July 17, 2012, 03:53:58 AM
That's a very beautiful recording, Ashkenazy's performance is absolutely gorgeous.
"Gorgeous" is nice but only scratches the surface of the music. For me, Op. 87 is entirely compelling with its wealth of emotional content and industrial strength bleakness. Nikolayeva offers a full-course meal; no other complete set comes close. That's how it appears from Sammy's corner of the world.
Quote from: Sammy on July 17, 2012, 12:49:00 PM
"Gorgeous" is nice but only scratches the surface of the music. For me, Op. 87 is entirely compelling with its wealth of emotional content and industrial strength bleakness. Nikolayeva offers a full-course meal; no other complete set comes close. That's how it appears from Sammy's corner of the world.
I don't think he means "gorgeous" in the sense that the romance is flowing. ::) More like emotionally wrought.
And from my corner of the world if Nikolayeva had lived long enough to hear Ashkenazy's recording she might have made something more out of the piece than calorie-free bread spread... ;D
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That's a very beautiful recording, Ashkenazy's performance is absolutely gorgeous.
Jenny Lin is my choice.
Gosh. And to think I've been content with
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(Though I'd hardly consider it a recording everyone should own.)
Quote from: DavidRoss on July 17, 2012, 04:17:07 PM
Gosh. And to think I've been content with [Scherbakov]
Maybe to keep the peace we should all just grab this Scherbakov and bin our Nikolayeva/Ashkenazy. ;D
Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on July 17, 2012, 04:25:18 PM
Maybe to keep the peace we should all just grab this Scherbakov and bin our Nikolayeva/Ashkenazy. ;D
If for no other reason than the cover art alone!
Actually methinks it pretty damned good -- one of those rare Naxos discs that lives up to the hype. (Though Don -- or Don -- might disagree.) ;D
Quote from: DavidRoss on July 17, 2012, 04:30:25 PM
If for no other reason than the cover art alone!
Actually methinks it pretty damned good -- one of those rare Naxos discs that lives up to the hype. (Though Don -- or Don -- might disagree.) ;D
Not at all. If Nikolayeva didn't exist, Scherbakov would be my standard.
Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on July 17, 2012, 04:25:18 PM
Maybe to keep the peace we should all just grab this Scherbakov and bin our Nikolayeva/Ashkenazy. ;D
Of course, some of us esteem both highly
: )
Oh, including Don, I perceive.
Quote from: karlhenning on July 18, 2012, 02:11:32 AM
Of course, some of us esteem both highly : )
Definitely! :)
mjwal put me on to this CD, and I never thanked him at the time. I should have -- it really did change my way of seeing Schumann (because of the Zender Phantasie -- don't be put off if you've been disapponted by Zender's Debussy and Schubert. This is in a different league.) and Ravel (because of the Kondrashin Rhapsodie espagnol). It also changed my whole perception of late romantic and early 20th century music. And my understanding of what it means for a transcription to be transcendent. This is one CD which I think everyone should listen to. No need to own it though, it's on spotify:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51nkEqL2VHL._SL500_AA280_.jpg)
Quote from: DavidRoss on July 17, 2012, 04:17:07 PM
Quote from: CaughtintheGaze on July 17, 2012, 04:09:26 PM
Quote from: Rhymenoceros on July 16, 2012, 08:00:26 PM
Shostakovich's Preludes and Fugues by Ashkenazy
Jenny Lin is my choice.
Gosh. And to think I've been content with Sherbakov...
Jarrett (http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2005/01/dip-your-ears-no-22.html),
Lin (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0022NG9QW/goodmusicguide-20),
Scherbakov (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000050XA2/goodmusicguide-20),
Nikolayeva II (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00009AQNL/goodmusicguide-20),
Ashkenazy (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00000J9FL/goodmusicguide-20),
Stone (http://www.colinstone.co.uk/cds.html),
Nikolayeva III (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000002ZO8/goodmusicguide-20),
Jalbert (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0013XZ34Q/goodmusicguide-20)Melnikov I haven't heard, but desperately want to... I expect a lot from him.
Quote from: jlaurson on July 19, 2012, 06:43:57 AM
Jarrett (http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2005/01/dip-your-ears-no-22.html), Lin (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0022NG9QW/goodmusicguide-20), Scherbakov (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000050XA2/goodmusicguide-20), Nikolayeva II (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00009AQNL/goodmusicguide-20), Ashkenazy (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00000J9FL/goodmusicguide-20), Stone (http://www.colinstone.co.uk/cds.html), Nikolayeva III (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000002ZO8/goodmusicguide-20), Jalbert (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0013XZ34Q/goodmusicguide-20)
Not to forget the grandaddy's of them all in Op.87: the snippets from Richter and Shostakovich himself. They lack completeness of course but in hindsight this probably should've been my starting point.
Quote from: Annie on July 16, 2012, 12:09:19 PM (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php?topic=809.msg644169#msg644169)
>(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7420/foldermdd.jpg)
That's a great choice.
This is an impossible task, of course. I have more Beethoven on my shelf than anything else, so I suppose I'll go with this (reserving the right to pick something else tomorrow ;D ):
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81%2BIwewNILL._AA300_.png)
It's a very unusual performance, slower than even Celibidache I think. And yet Bohm somehow makes it work, and the textures that he is able to bring out of the orchestra because of it are just gorgeous. Probably not so good as an introduction to the work, but something that a Beethoven lover should definitely hear.
Quote from: jwinter on July 19, 2012, 12:11:03 PM
It's a very unusual performance, slower than even Celibidache I think. And yet Bohm somehow makes it work, and the textures that he is able to bring out of the orchestra because of it are just gorgeous. Probably not so good as an introduction to the work, but something that a Beethoven lover should definitely hear.
I had a Bohm Ninth on DG a looong time ago (vinyl!). How many times did he record it for them?
Quote from: MN Dave on July 19, 2012, 12:14:39 PM
I had a Bohm Ninth on DG a looong time ago (vinyl!). How many times did he record it for them?
The recording cited is digital, and I think it was his last recording. I was warned off of it because it was slow, but those were thd days when you were considered a lunatic if you owned more than one recording of any given piece of music. He did a stereo cycle in the 70's with Vienna and there are some earlier recordings with Berlin, but I don't know if it was a complete cycle.
Quote from: Fafner on July 19, 2012, 12:27:44 PM
The recording cited is digital, and I think it was his last recording. I was warned off of it because it was slow, but those were thd days when you were considered a lunatic if you owned more than one recording of any given piece of music. He did a stereo cycle in the 70's with Vienna and there are some earlier recordings with Berlin, but I don't know if it was a complete cycle.
I remember it being in a box and I remember him on the cover conducting. This was late '70s/early 80s.
I haven't seen an early Berlin 9th, but that doesn't mean it ain't out there. The one I cited is indeed digital. The 9th in the Vienna complete set is certainly good, but this has a very unique quality. I can well understand why you'd be warned off it unless you were collecting 9ths -- it's certainly not how I'd introduce the work to someone.
Quote from: Annie on July 19, 2012, 12:31:34 PM
[quote I have more Beethoven on my shelf than anything else...
this my distribution of thousands of cds :)
(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/986/distpie.jpg)
collections, like rubinstein's set, are not in the composer's part and different composer couplings are ignored. nothing after the romantic era
That's neat, the wonders of spreadsheets...
Mine's probably not too far off that. I'd definitely need to add individual slices of pie for Mahler, Bruckner, Chopin, & Brahms -- depends on what's the threshhold for "other"...
Quote from: MN Dave on July 19, 2012, 12:30:37 PM
I remember it being in a box and I remember him on the cover conducting. This was late '70s/early 80s.
On LP the digital recording was in a box that looked like this:
(http://ring.cdandlp.com/chapoultepek69/photo_grande/115140666.jpg)
Quote from: Fafner on July 19, 2012, 12:37:26 PM
On LP the digital recording looked like this:
(http://ring.cdandlp.com/chapoultepek69/photo_grande/115140666.jpg)
That's it! Thanks.
Quote from: jwinter on July 19, 2012, 12:11:03 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81%2BIwewNILL._AA300_.png)
...something that a Beethoven lover should definitely hear.
Well, I'm glad that
that event is in my past. 0:)
Thread Duty (even though I don't really mean it :P):
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(or in one of its various other incarnations)
Quote from: Opus106 on
Today at 04:07:28 AM (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php?topic=809.msg645212#msg645212)
Well, I'm glad that
that event is in my past. 0:)
A bit too slow, eh? ;D Try the Leinsdorf 9th we mentioned over in the Beethoven on Record thread, that'll perk you right up. ;)
Quote from: jwinter on July 20, 2012, 06:25:32 AM
A bit too slow, eh? ;D Try the Leinsdorf 9th we mentioned over in the Beethoven on Record thread, that'll perk you right up. ;)
Thanks, but I have Herreweghe waiting in the queue! >:D ;)
Quote from: jwinter on July 20, 2012, 06:25:32 AM
Quote from: Opus106 on Today at 04:07:28 AM (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php?topic=809.msg645212#msg645212) Well, I'm glad that
that event is in my past. 0:)
A bit too slow, eh? ;D Try the Leinsdorf 9th we mentioned over in the Beethoven on Record thread, that'll perk you right up. ;)
I ordered a copy of the Bohm for nostalgia's sake.
Quote from: Opus106 on July 20, 2012, 06:27:45 AM
Thanks, but I have Herreweghe waiting in the queue! >:D ;)
Now
that's the stuff this thread is perhaps made of, maybe.
My all time favorite disc:
[asin]B000028AZC[/asin]
...........I think.
For me the most successful attempt to play the music of the Classical Era.
[asin]B0001BROAC[/asin]
If I had to pick...
this:
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005IA25.01.L.jpg)
D. Scarlatti,
Keyboard Sonatas,
M.Pletnev
Virgin (http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2005/02/dip-your-ears-no-26.html)
When I worked at Tower Records (RIP) (http://www.forbes.com/2006/11/15/tower-music-bankruptcy-oped-cx_jfl_1115tower.html), I wanted to make an example of what enthusiasm and quality combined could do... and sold something like 500 copies of that disc. As long as I worked there (about two years, I think), this recordings wasn't in the internal Top 10 only three or four weeks.
Quote from: The new erato on July 21, 2012, 07:14:23 AMMy all time favorite disc:
[asin]B000028AZC[/asin]
...........I think.
Definitely an entrant for the Terrible Record Covers thread.
Sibelius's violin concerto, Ida Haendel violin, Berglund conducting the Bournemouth SO.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/4108O4wKrJL.jpg)
Perhaps more commonly seen in EMI's original edition (not sure how the sound compares to the Unesco Classics, though):
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/519p6TQuQ7L.jpg)
Quote from: jlaurson on July 22, 2012, 03:19:55 AM
If I had to pick...
this:
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005IA25.01.L.jpg)
D. Scarlatti,
Keyboard Sonatas,
M.Pletnev
Virgin (http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2005/02/dip-your-ears-no-26.html)
When I worked at Tower Records (RIP) (http://www.forbes.com/2006/11/15/tower-music-bankruptcy-oped-cx_jfl_1115tower.html), I wanted to make an example of what enthusiasm and quality combined could do... and sold something like 500 copies of that disc. As long as I worked there (about two years, I think), this recordings wasn't in the internal Top 10 only three or four weeks.
Yes, I was introduced to Scarlatti, and largely to baroque keyboard music in general (other than JS Bach) by that disc. Great stuff!
One classical CD that could be given to anyone is the Tchaikovsky ballet suites
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/619YycY2bFL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Quote from: rubio on May 09, 2007, 11:32:46 AM
The Haydn Cello Concertos as performed by Hogwood/Coin. The closest to perfect classical music CD of my collection.
(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/61ATVJ98TSL._AA240_.gif)
This is extremely good I think -- thanks for pointing it out to me.
It lead me to Coin's record of the Jeunehomme (he's conducting the Ensemble Baroque De Limoges with Patrick Cohen playing piano ), which is equally fine.
(http://i.prs.to/t_200/naivee3005.jpg)
First CD of this twofer:
[asin]B00002DE0S[/asin]
Quote from: The Raven on August 13, 2012, 11:26:07 AM
First CD of this twofer:
[asin]B00002DE0S[/asin]
I have that but when I try to listen to him nowadays I just can't get past what a moronically bigoted asshole he is.
Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on July 22, 2012, 06:53:29 PM
Sibelius's violin concerto, Ida Haendel violin, Berglund conducting the Bournemouth SO.
Great pick -- the Berglund/Bournemouth 5th is a great one, too!
Quote from: DavidRoss on August 13, 2012, 02:14:25 PM
I have that but when I try to listen to him nowadays I just can't get past what a moronically bigoted asshole he is.
Can you hear that in the music??
Quote from: DavidRoss on August 13, 2012, 02:14:25 PM
I have that but when I try to listen to him nowadays I just can't get past what a moronically bigoted asshole he is.
;D
Then you might like this... http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2006/04/political-piano-zimerman-at-shriver.html (http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2006/04/political-piano-zimerman-at-shriver.html)
Quote from: jlaurson on August 13, 2012, 04:22:41 PM
;D
Then you might like this... http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2006/04/political-piano-zimerman-at-shriver.html (http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2006/04/political-piano-zimerman-at-shriver.html)
Oh, that wasn't quite the article I had in mind, after all... or I wrote something different than I thought I had.
There is one review, and I thought it was after another Zimerman experience, where I let go on "abuse of platform" -- that I don't go to concerts to hear their thoughts on world affairs and the state of the Union (even if I were to happen to agree with their point of view), just as I don't go to Heritage or New America Foundations Luncheons and expect the resident scholar on immigration policy to play the Hammerklavier Sonata.
Hmm... maybe Zimerman got me angry, and then I took it out on the Israeli Ambassador -- who was the right person to do a little political stump speech, but did it at the wrong event: http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2007/04/jerusalem-quartet-at-libr.html
Quote from: eyeresist on July 22, 2012, 06:11:33 PM
Definitely an entrant for the Terrible Record Covers thread.
Yes, but since this isn't a thread about record covers you should own, I recommended it anyway.
Quote from: DavidRoss on August 13, 2012, 02:14:25 PM
I have that but when I try to listen to him nowadays I just can't get past what a moronically bigoted asshole he is.
What's the story? Why is he bigoted?
Quote from: jlaurson on August 14, 2012, 12:43:57 AM
... "abuse of platform" -- that I don't go to concerts to hear their thoughts on world affairs and the state of the Union (even if I were to happen to agree with their point of view)
This.
Quote from: Mandryka on August 14, 2012, 03:05:40 AM
What's the story? Why is he bigoted?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/apr/28/krystian-zimerman-missile-defence-poland (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/apr/28/krystian-zimerman-missile-defence-poland)
I'm not sure bigoted is the right word. To me it looks more like a personal vendetta (see the last two paragraphs).
Funny how a musician saying a few words between numbers becomes a crazy, oppressive thing to do.
And how could any sane person object to their country being turned into a weapons platform for a foreign power?
Quote from: eyeresist on August 14, 2012, 03:49:41 AM
Funny how a musician saying a few words between numbers becomes a crazy, oppressive thing to do.
Not if the words are few enough, and are about the music.
Quote from: eyeresist on August 14, 2012, 03:49:41 AM
Funny how a musician saying a few words between numbers becomes a crazy, oppressive thing to do.
IMHO he really had no business saying those few words during a concert. People paid their tickets to hear him playing not speaking. ;D
Take Maurizio Pollini: he is as leftist as it gets but he never mix music with politics. He reserves his political opinions for the interviews.
Quote
And how could any sane person object to their country being turned into a weapons platform for a foreign power?
I fully support, and agree with, the installation of the US anti-missile shield in my country. I think this makes me a lunatic in your eyes. ;D
Quote from: Florestan on August 14, 2012, 04:07:04 AM
I fully support, and agree with, the installation of the US anti-missile shield in my country. I think this makes me a lunatic in your eyes. ;D
The problem of that obviously being that it destroys the finely tuned terror balance based on "If you destroy me; I destroy you"; not whether you actually enjoy being a part of that race or not.
Quote from: The new erato on August 14, 2012, 04:13:14 AM
The problem of that obviously being that it destroys the finely tuned terror balance based on "If you destroy me; I destroy you"; not whether you actually enjoy being a part of that race or not.
I'm afraid I don't quite get your point. "If you destroy me" then there's obviously no way I will destroy you, ain't it?
My own point is that if the US anti-missile shield is installed in my country then there is no way the Russians will ever step in again --- and you know what, I'll rather live under American
de facto rule than Russian. And yes, I am as biased as it gets. :D
There is nothing that I have that I believe everyone should own.
(Of course there are a few that if they don't own, their so-called collection is worthless as a result and their tastes are obviously inferior...) :D
Quote from: Florestan on August 14, 2012, 04:18:43 AM
I'm afraid I don't quite get your point. "If you destroy me" then there's obviously no way I will destroy you, ain't it?
My own point is that if the US anti-missile shield is installed in my country then there is no way the Russians will ever step in again --- and you know what, I'll rather live under American de facto rule than Russian. And yes, I am as biased as it gets. :D
I guess you know that one can push a button on discovering entry vehicles.
And I have no problems with your choice, my point only being that this question have wider implications than what is comfortable for Roumania.
Quote from: Florestan on August 14, 2012, 04:07:04 AM
IMHO he really had no business saying those few words during a concert. People paid their tickets to hear him playing not speaking. ;D
Take Maurizio Pollini: he is as leftist as it gets but he never mix music with politics. He reserves his political opinions for the interviews.
Not anymore. During the Vietnam era, he did. But he learned his lesson.
It's unfortunate that conviction of one's believes, perhaps in fêted musicians even stronger, bears no correlation whatsoever with knowledge and appreciation of facts and realities in matters economic and political. Same trouble with opera directors... talented in every way, but then semi-educated demi-morons when it comes to the even the most shallow analysis of globalization, international trade, financial markets et al.
QuoteKrystian Zimerman, the great Polish concert pianist, is usually a man of few words. He doesn't, as a rule, talk to the audience during performances.
[Guardian article]
That's not my experience. Every time I've heard him (I think trice), he bitched am moaned about America, about Immigration, about how his piano was destroyed, about Guantanamo...
I'm not surprised about his lack of judgment, that he rather believes Russian propaganda than US propaganda.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rvB67LqaO3Q/T-2lU1GkCoI/AAAAAAAACq0/Q8VYECD0haE/s400/breakup_NEW_soft.png)
Did I mention that I think everyone ought to have this recording, apart from the aforementioned Scarlatti (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,809.msg645703.html#msg645703)?
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00070FTM2.01.L.jpg)
J.S. Bach,
concertos italiens
Alexandre Tharaud
Harmonia Mundi (http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2006/05/dip-your-ears-no-58.html)
Quote from: The new erato on August 14, 2012, 04:30:14 AM
And I have no problems with your choice, my point only being that this question have wider implications than what is comfortable for Roumania.
Of course. But, with all due respect, if what's comfortable for Romania might not be so for Norway is no reason I should not endorse it. I dare say that, if asked in a poll, the vast majority of your countrymen would not care at all if Russia extends over the Carpathian Mountains as long as their own peace and way of life goes on undisturbed... (not to mention they'd have real troubles placing us on the map or telling Bucharest from Budapest) ;D
Now don't get me wrong: personally I am a very cosmopolitan person and would LOOOOOVE to see the world being a playground of love and brotherhood and I'm sure you are of the same stock too; but let's face reality: the world is far from it. Not even the peaceful Norway is immune from hate and violence, as the Breivik case showed. During history nobody (with the notable exceptions of Napoleon the 3rd --- in a genuine manner--- and Woodrow Wilson --- because of his fanatical hate for the Austrian Empire) ever cared for our fate --- why then should we care for others'? ;D
Quote from: springrite on August 14, 2012, 04:22:31 AM
There is nothing that I have that I believe everyone should own.
No indeed! Let them get their own!
Quote from: jlaurson on August 13, 2012, 04:22:41 PM
;D
Then you might like this... http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2006/04/political-piano-zimerman-at-shriver.html (http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2006/04/political-piano-zimerman-at-shriver.html)
I especially like your suggestion that he should have played the
Fidelio transcription. ;)
Quote from: jlaurson on August 14, 2012, 04:45:45 AM
Not anymore. During the Vietnam era, he did. But he learned his lesson.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-UiBzLnc31JA/T4MW44A-P8I/AAAAAAAACyU/0QALxAAdfvQ/s1600/Godfather_Brando_cat.jpg)
:D ;D :D
I really think the entire box set is mandatory, but for the sake of discretion, I'll humbly suggest this recording:
[asin]B00000411S[/asin]
This is the one I began with prior to investing in the entire collection - well worth the investment, too.
:)
Quote from: Florestan on August 14, 2012, 03:26:21 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/apr/28/krystian-zimerman-missile-defence-poland (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/apr/28/krystian-zimerman-missile-defence-poland)
I'm not sure bigoted is the right word. To me it looks more like a personal vendetta (see the last two paragraphs).
The Guardian article presents just one of many examples of his self-righteous idiocy. Bigots are people who stubbornly refuse to open their minds to information that does not support their prejudices, especially prejudices against entire classes of people whom they dehumanize with hateful stereotypes. See this Merriam Webster definition:
Quotebigot: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
Quote from: jlaurson on August 14, 2012, 04:45:45 AM
It's unfortunate that conviction of one's beliefs, perhaps in fêted musicians even stronger, bears no correlation whatsoever with knowledge and appreciation of facts and realities in matters economic and political. Same trouble with opera directors... talented in every way, but then semi-educated demi-morons when it comes to even the most shallow analysis of globalization, international trade, financial markets et al.
I've never understood how someone can feel strongly about a subject yet refuse to inform himself about it. Perhaps it's not their feelings about the subject that are so strong, but rather their addiction to the intoxicating cocktail of neurotransmitters fueled by feelings of self-righteous superiority and hateful judgmentalism.
And when such arrogant ignoramuses actively pursue an agenda that causes real harm to other people, I find it difficult not to let my dismay about that affect my appreciation of their art...especially in the case of someone like Zimerman who goes out of his way to remind concertgoers of his spiritual shortcomings, which may well manifest in his art. The challenge is especially great in cases like Wagner, whose vicious antisemitism so informs the Ring that it's virtually impossible to overlook.
But enough of such digression. Back to the one recording everyone should own!
I have no opinion on that, as I am hardly qualified to prescribe for everyone, and cannot even decide on the one recording
I should own, if one were all allowed me (say, by a beneficent government staffed by well-meaning bureaucrats who earnestly believe they know what's in others' best interest).
Quote from: DavidRoss on August 14, 2012, 07:25:44 AM
Back to the one recording everyone should own!
I have no opinion on that, as I am hardly qualified to prescribe for everyone, and cannot even decide on the one recording I should own, if one were all allowed me (say, by a beneficent government staffed by well-meaning bureaucrats who earnestly believe they know what's in others' best interest).
Since our tastes seem to run fairly close, David, I'd be interested in what recording you might consider something of a "favorite". If such a thing is possible...
Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on August 14, 2012, 10:08:53 AM
Since our tastes seem to run fairly close, David, I'd be interested in what recording you might consider something of a "favorite". If such a thing is possible...
Where to begin, Don? There are so
many!How about a box set of Sibelius's symphonies? Even then I'd have a hard time choosing among those I most love: Blomstedt, Bernstein, Berglund, Segerstam, Vänskä....
If restricted to single discs, which ought I choose among DLVDE recordings, let alone those of Strauss's
Four Last Songs? And how could I be without Dame Janet singing
Ich bin der Welt abhanden gekommen?
Nor would I want to be without Bach's cello suites, sonatas & partitas for violin, violin concertos, or Goldbergs on piano. And which towering Beethoven masterpiece should I choose among dozens?
Mozart's operas are easy: Jacobs's
Cosi. Or should I trade Jacobs's delicious orchestra for the fabulous singing on Böhm's Walter Legge recording? Or maybe
Le Nozze would be a better choice...? But how could I be without the D minor concerto and the great G minor?
Elgar's cello concerto? Rodrigo's concerto for guitar (or Ponce's)? The Rach 2 (or 3)? Brahms's piano quintet? Pärt's Fratres?
I toss up my hands in surrender. (And I've strayed rather far from the thread's intent.)
If there were one -- just
one -- recording of classical music that everyone should own, the piece would have to be a cultural touchstone: something that practically defines the very notion of Western classical music and which represents the art form at its finest. Voyager has Beethoven's 5th symphony and the op. 130 quartet. Perhaps, if there were a record with first-rate recordings of one of the great symphonies (say, the 7th), one of the great piano sonatas (Moonlight? Waldstein? Pathétique?), and the
Grosse Fuge, that might do the trick.
I'll bet there are two recordings that almost every GMGer has: Gould's first Goldbergs and Kleiber's LvB 5 & 7. But should everyone own either of these? That's a big "Duh" from me. ;) ;D 8)
Quote from: DavidRoss on August 14, 2012, 12:43:59 PM
Where to begin, Don? There are so many!
Heckova task, I know, but I can only nod my head in agreement. Much obliged, Dave!
Quote from: karlhenning on August 14, 2012, 03:59:43 AMNot if the words are few enough, and are about the music.
The Guardian story doesn't say how long he spoke for. A half hour speech would obviously be wrong, but a few words might inform the subsequent interpretation in an interesting way.
Quote from: Florestan on August 14, 2012, 04:18:43 AMMy own point is that if the US anti-missile shield is installed in my country then there is no way the Russians will ever step in again --- and you know what, I'll rather live under American de facto rule than Russian.
I certainly agree with the last part (unlike a certain idiot relative who, given the choice between US and Chinese hegemony, said he would choose the latter). But I don't think anyone thought the missiles installed in Cuba were going to make that country
more secure from US attack ::)
Browsing through this today and I noticed that four "guests" were as well. It may have been dormant for six years but I am sure other recommendations would be appreciated.
Dvořák Slavonic Dances - Karel Šejna/Czech Philharmonic Orchestra, or maybe Mozart String Quintets K515 & 516 - Chiara Banchini/Ensemble 415
Since the previous issue (on Tahra) I posted long time ago has run OOP, a repost of this:
[asin]B00N5ARXH0[/asin]
Q
Even though it is not my own favourite, go-to version of this music - but for other reasons ...
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51Jx1wfeUTL._SX425_.jpg)