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The Music Room => General Classical Music Discussion => Topic started by: Florestan on March 10, 2018, 03:12:35 PM

Title: One and Only One Solo Piano Piece
Post by: Florestan on March 10, 2018, 03:12:35 PM
The title is self-explanatory.

My pick: Emmanuel Chabrier - Habanera

Title: Re: One and Only One Solo Piano Piece
Post by: Sammy on March 10, 2018, 03:25:12 PM
Robert Schumann - Humoreske.  Do you have any plans concerning these one and only pieces?
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Post by: Florestan on March 10, 2018, 03:32:31 PM
Quote from: Sammy on March 10, 2018, 03:25:12 PM
Do you have any plans concerning these one and only pieces?

No.

Just post "the one and only solo piano piece" you would listen to ad nauseam, including whatever arrangement you wish... I do stand by Chabrier's Habanera.
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Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on March 10, 2018, 03:34:15 PM
If I choose Incises would that also include Sur Incises depending on how broadly we are defining 'arrangement?' ;D
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Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on March 10, 2018, 03:53:25 PM
And also, I guess you are talking about solo piano, but to what extend would you allow manipulation of the piano's sound whilst the music is being performed? Would a piece like this still be considered primarily a solo piano piece as the electronic component is completely derived from the piano itself, rather than, say, a tape track?

https://www.youtube.com/v/x4Bg-H0yREE
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Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on March 10, 2018, 03:54:11 PM
There are too many questions I have about this thread to be able to pick anything at the moment. Could you explain a bit further what you mean?
Title: Re: One and Only One Solo Piano Piece
Post by: Florestan on March 10, 2018, 03:59:03 PM
Quote from: jessop on March 10, 2018, 03:54:11 PM
Could you explain a bit further what you mean?

Just post "the one and only solo piano piece" originally written for solo piano you would listen to ad nauseam, including whatever arrangement you wish...
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Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on March 10, 2018, 04:06:26 PM
Quote from: Florestan on March 10, 2018, 03:59:03 PM
Just post "the one and only solo piano piece" originally written for solo piano you would listen to ad nauseam, including whatever arrangement you wish...

Ok right. In your view does Sur Incises count as an 'arrangement' of Incises from piano solo to larger forces, or does the fact that Boulez further expanded the score to draw on thematic ideas from the original versions as well as orchestration from the new ensemble make it a different composition and therefore not count?

I would be happy to choose Incises if it meant that I can alternate with Sur Incises ad nauseam, but if I can't I might just pick his second piano sonata.
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Post by: XB-70 Valkyrie on March 10, 2018, 05:20:17 PM
Debussy: La Cathédrale Engloutie
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Post by: bwv 1080 on March 10, 2018, 05:21:48 PM
Quote from: Sammy on March 10, 2018, 03:25:12 PM
Robert Schumann - Humoreske.  Do you have any plans concerning these one and only pieces?

+1
Title: Re: One and Only One Solo Piano Piece
Post by: ritter on March 10, 2018, 10:20:25 PM
Reflets dans l'eau  :)
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Post by: Turner on March 10, 2018, 10:31:54 PM
Some candidates would be the Hammerklavier Sonata, Liszt Sonata in b, Scriabin's 10th ... I might pick the Liszt then.
Title: Re: One and Only One Solo Piano Piece
Post by: Undersea on March 10, 2018, 11:02:29 PM
Chopin: Piano Sonata #3 In B Minor, Op. 58
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Post by: Wanderer on March 10, 2018, 11:58:22 PM
Quote from: Florestan on March 10, 2018, 03:12:35 PM
The title is self-explanatory.

Quote from: Florestan on March 10, 2018, 03:59:03 PM
Just post "the one and only solo piano piece" originally written for solo piano you would listen to ad nauseam, including whatever arrangement you wish...

The title is self-explanatory, but, as we all know, there's always someone acting obtuse in order to do some unwarranted embedded marketing.  :D


My pick:

Beethoven: Piano Sonata in E minor, op.109
Title: Re: One and Only One Solo Piano Piece
Post by: Papy Oli on March 11, 2018, 12:27:16 AM
Beethoven Op.7.

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Post by: NikF on March 11, 2018, 12:29:06 AM
Medtner: Sonata Romantica Op 53/1
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Post by: Maestro267 on March 11, 2018, 12:48:11 AM
As we're only allowed one, let's go big: Sorabji's Opus Clavicembalisticum. A solo piano work that's as long as a Wagner opera. Imagine the cadenza of Prokofiev's Piano Concerto No. 2, then beef it up further.
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Post by: Karl Henning on March 11, 2018, 03:30:57 AM
Feldman, Triadic Memories
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Post by: Karl Henning on March 11, 2018, 03:31:22 AM
Quote from: Maestro267 on March 11, 2018, 12:48:11 AM
As we're only allowed one, let's go big: Sorabji's Opus Clavicembalisticum. A solo piano work that's as long as a Wagner opera. Imagine the cadenza of Prokofiev's Piano Concerto No. 2, then beef it up further.

I need to set aside a weekend to tuck into this  :)
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Post by: Wanderer on March 11, 2018, 03:38:09 AM
Quote from: NikF on March 11, 2018, 12:29:06 AM
Medtner: Sonata Romantica Op 53/1

Quote from: Maestro267 on March 11, 2018, 12:48:11 AM
Sorabji's Opus Clavicembalisticum.

Great choices!


Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 11, 2018, 03:31:22 AM
I need to set aside a weekend to tuck into this  :)

Just go on a roadtrip: it makes a perfect soundtrack.  8)
Title: Re: One and Only One Solo Piano Piece
Post by: amw on March 11, 2018, 03:43:45 AM
https://www.youtube.com/v/GETFcTMU1JA

Honestly not even a difficult choice. There's not a lot of other music that I listen to and immediately hit the loop button to hear again.
Title: Re: One and Only One Solo Piano Piece
Post by: NikF on March 11, 2018, 04:08:18 AM
Quote from: Wanderer on March 11, 2018, 03:38:09 AM
Great choices!


Re: Medtner - I remember a few years ago posting that I had a disc (Naxos) featuring his Piano Quintet in C major. You replied, which led to me exploring his music further.
That's how it often happens for me here. This place is like a cool library staffed by well informed, enthusiastic librarians.
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Post by: Papy Oli on March 11, 2018, 04:15:30 AM
Quote from: amw on March 11, 2018, 03:43:45 AM
https://www.youtube.com/v/GETFcTMU1JA

Honestly not even a difficult choice. There's not a lot of other music that I listen to and immediately hit the loop button to hear again.

Oh, this is gorgeous, this.... Looks like i need to explore Poulenc's piano music sharpish...  0:)
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Post by: vandermolen on March 11, 2018, 05:38:49 AM
Piano Sonata No.8 in E minor by Peter Davis.

Peter is my brother - he wrote this after his wife (my sister-in-law, who was more like my sister) died in 2013. I've always encouraged Peter (a retired Parliament lawyer) to 'do something' about his music but I don't suppose that he ever will. One of the earlier sonatas is dedicated to me which I am obviously very touched by. He made CDs for his close family and I'm listening to it again now. It lasts about 35 minutes. Bruckner is his main influence I think although I find his music original and moving - obviously I am biased!
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Post by: Draško on March 11, 2018, 06:46:05 AM
Chopin c minor Nocturne Op.48 no.1 or Scriabin's 5th Sonata or Debussy Et la lune descend sur le temple qui fut or Franck Prelude, choral et fugue  0:)
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Post by: Sergeant Rock on March 11, 2018, 09:32:24 AM
Satie Gnossiennes


Sarge
Title: Re: One and Only One Solo Piano Piece
Post by: Mirror Image on March 11, 2018, 09:52:10 AM
Like Jessop, I'm sort of confused by this thread's idea: do piano suites count as one piece or only individual movements within the piano suite are allowed? I understand picking one piano work, but there needs to be some elaboration on whether I could pick say Bartók's Out of Doors in it's entirety. Also, shouldn't this thread be in 'The Polling Station' section of the forum?
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Post by: lisa needs braces on March 12, 2018, 05:55:59 PM
Quote from: Wanderer on March 10, 2018, 11:58:22 PM
Beethoven: Piano Sonata in E minor, op.109

Me too. Except I think the key is E major.

Variations 4, 5 and 6 of the last movement = orgasmic.

Title: Re: One and Only One Solo Piano Piece
Post by: lisa needs braces on March 12, 2018, 06:00:14 PM
Quote from: Mirror Image on March 11, 2018, 09:52:10 AM
Like Jessop, I'm sort of confused by this thread's idea: do piano suites count as one piece or only individual movements within the piano suite are allowed? I understand picking one piano work, but there needs to be some elaboration on whether I could pick say Bartók's Out of Doors in it's entirety. Also, shouldn't this thread be in 'The Polling Station' section of the forum?

It's not a poll though, it's just asking us to name a favorite piano work. Plus too many forum sections relating to the same general topic (classic music) are detrimental to small forums like this.
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Post by: Mirror Image on March 12, 2018, 06:04:09 PM
I thought about this and if I can only have one piano work then I want Debussy's Préludes, Books I & II. Not only is this work absolutely gorgeous, but it is a thrill for me to read about each piece within the work itself and rediscovering each of these piece's individuality. I'd love to see someone like Samuel Andreyev analyze at least one book from Préludes. It would probably take him an hour to do one book as this is how thorough and detailed he is with his analyses. Anyway, this is the piano work I'd take to the desert island even though I do love so many of his other works for piano and not to mention Ravel and Janáček!
Title: Re: One and Only One Solo Piano Piece
Post by: Turner on March 13, 2018, 01:26:05 AM
Quote from: Mirror Image on March 12, 2018, 06:04:09 PM
I thought about this and if I can only have one piano work then I want Debussy's Préludes, Books I & II. Not only is this work absolutely gorgeous, but it is a thrill for me to read about each piece within the work itself and rediscovering each of these piece's individuality (...)

If you count those pieces as one work and a possible entry, this could be my choice as well.
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Post by: Karl Henning on March 13, 2018, 03:41:48 AM
Quote from: Mirror Image on March 12, 2018, 06:04:09 PM
I thought about this and if I can only have one piano work then I want Debussy's Préludes, Books I & II. Not only is this work absolutely gorgeous, but it is a thrill for me to read about each piece within the work itself and rediscovering each of these piece's individuality. I'd love to see someone like Samuel Andreyev analyze at least one book from Préludes. It would probably take him an hour to do one book as this is how thorough and detailed he is with his analyses. Anyway, this is the piano work I'd take to the desert island even though I do love so many of his other works for piano and not to mention Ravel and Janáček!

When I studied composition, part of the tuition was always study of this or that piece from the literature.  The Debussy Préludes were among the first pieces my composition instructor had me dig into.
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Post by: Rinaldo on March 13, 2018, 05:31:26 AM
Piano is my favourite instrument so this is hard. Super hard. Impossible, actually. Debussy, Schubert, Satie, Skempton, Southam, Cage's Sonatas for prepared piano, Riley's Lisbon Concert, Pärt's Für Alina.. man oh man.

Better keep it simple:

https://www.youtube.com/v/lJzVEuv5TXo
Title: Re: One and Only One Solo Piano Piece
Post by: Florestan on March 13, 2018, 05:38:19 AM
Quote from: Rinaldo on March 13, 2018, 05:31:26 AM
https://www.youtube.com/v/lJzVEuv5TXo

That's great.

The idea behind this thread is: post that solo piano work (be it a full sonata or suite, or parts thereof, or a stand-alone piece) that you are never tired of, and always in the mood for, listening. Afaic, this is different from "favorite solo piano work". Ymmv.
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Post by: Rinaldo on March 13, 2018, 06:09:15 AM
Quote from: Florestan on March 13, 2018, 05:38:19 AM
..that you are never tired of, and always in the mood for, listening. Afaic, this is different from "favorite solo piano work".

Ah, good. Then I'm perfectly content with my final choice :)
Title: Re: One and Only One Solo Piano Piece
Post by: Mirror Image on March 13, 2018, 06:35:30 AM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 13, 2018, 03:41:48 AM
When I studied composition, part of the tuition was always study of this or that piece from the literature.  The Debussy Préludes were among the first pieces my composition instructor had me dig into.

Excellent, Karl. 8)
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Post by: Karl Henning on March 13, 2018, 06:37:37 AM
Aye, Debussy taught me much  0:)   (Though, my music does not necessarily sound it . . . .)
Title: Re: One and Only One Solo Piano Piece
Post by: Mirror Image on March 13, 2018, 06:45:26 AM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 13, 2018, 06:37:37 AM
Aye, Debussy taught me much  0:)   (Though, my music does not necessarily sound it . . . .)

8)
Title: Re: One and Only One Solo Piano Piece
Post by: Ken B on March 13, 2018, 08:12:18 AM
This might not be the choice tomorrow but  https://youtu.be/pUTXNxFvjDw (https://youtu.be/pUTXNxFvjDw)
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Post by: Jo498 on March 13, 2018, 09:53:31 AM
Beethoven op.109
Chopin 4th Ballade
Contrapunctus 8
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Post by: Mirror Image on March 13, 2018, 07:07:31 PM
Quote from: Ken B on March 13, 2018, 08:12:18 AM
This might not be the choice tomorrow but  https://youtu.be/pUTXNxFvjDw (https://youtu.be/pUTXNxFvjDw)

Gamelan piano? :-\
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Post by: Ken B on March 13, 2018, 07:39:12 PM
Quote from: Mirror Image on March 13, 2018, 07:07:31 PM
Gamelan piano? :-\

?

Prepared Piano. John Cage.
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Post by: Mirror Image on March 13, 2018, 07:50:06 PM
Quote from: Ken B on March 13, 2018, 07:39:12 PM
?

Prepared Piano. John Cage.

I see you missed the humor in my post. It sounds like Gamelan music or inspired by Gamelan music.
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Post by: Uhor on March 15, 2018, 10:50:25 AM
I agree Feldman is the composer, the piece maybe "Piano"
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Post by: Karl Henning on March 16, 2018, 06:58:45 PM
Quote from: schnittkease on March 16, 2018, 04:48:35 PM
Hovhaness: Visionary Landscapes, op. 214.

I feel light-headed.
I feel I need to hear that ....

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