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General Classical Music Discussion / Re: What are you listening to now?
« Last post by André on Today at 03:21:42 PM »


Warm, spacious and finely detailed sound grace this very fine recording. Plasson is a no-nonsense interpreter of the symphony, but he brings many delightful touches.. The harp part in III is the most beautifully played and recorded I’ve heard, a wonderful moment of lull before the recapitulation and coda. Collard’s is the most poetic and charismatic interpreter on the Variations I’ve heard (a dozen or so). This is perfect in its simplicity and dedication.
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General Classical Music Discussion / Re: What are you listening to now?
« Last post by André on Today at 02:43:05 PM »


Recorded in the usually fine sounding Salle Wagram, I blame the remastering (1986) for the rather harsh, glassy string sound. A slowish, somber, ruminative version of the symphony. The Variations are well conceived and finely recorded (Jesus-Christus Kirche, Berlin). Le chasseur maudit is sumptuously played and recorded, making it sound for all the world like Respighi. The Philadelphia horn section plays much too much legato, but Muti whips up a fine ride.
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Bach: Well-Tempered Clavier - 12
Berlioz: Les nuits d'été - 5 (+2)
Boulez: Le marteau sans maitre - 6
Bruckner: Symphony No. 5 in B-flat - 6 (+5)
Carter: String Quartet No. 2 - 4

Chin: Xi - 1
Chopin: Scherzo No. 1 in B minor - 3 (+1)
Debussy: Preludes, Book II - 4
Hosokawa: Utsurohi - 1
Lassus: Psalmi Davidis poenitentiales - 1

Mahler: Symphony No. 6 in A minor - 12
Messiaen: Oiseaux exotiques - 1
Monteverdi: Selva morale e spirituale - 2
Mozart: String Quintet No. 6 in E-flat K 614 - 1
Schoenberg: Violin Concerto, Op. 36 - 4

Schumann: Fantasie in C Op. 17 - 2
Sibelius: Symphony No. 4 in A minor, Op. 64 - 12 (+2)
Stravinsky: Threni - 4
Takemitsu: Toward the Sea I - 1
Wagner: Tristan und Isolde - 8
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General Classical Music Discussion / Re: What are you listening to now?
« Last post by NikF on Today at 02:29:28 PM »
Fauré: Musique De Chambre 

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General Classical Music Discussion / Re: What are you listening to now?
« Last post by Daverz on Today at 02:20:11 PM »
One of my very favorite discs.  :) The cover art is a bit strange but somehow fitting for Arnold's often phantasmagorical sound-world.

Yes, very fond of this one.  One of the best things Hickox did, I think.

Thread duty:



Sgambati Piano Concerto.  Good Very good recording by Jorgé Bolet of a very interesting Romantic piano concerto.  I wonder why Hyperion is taking so long to get to this one.

...They've gotten to the Rheinberger:

https://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/dc.asp?dc=D_CDA68225
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Bach: Well-Tempered Clavier - 12
Berlioz: Les nuits d'été - 3 (+2)
Boulez: Le marteau sans maitre - 6 (+2)
Bruckner: Symphony No. 5 in B-flat - 1
Carter: String Quartet No. 2 - 4 (+2)

Chin: Xi - 1
Chopin: Scherzo No. 1 in B minor - 2
Debussy: Preludes, Book II - 4 (+2)
Hosokawa: Utsurohi - 1
Lassus: Psalmi Davidis poenitentiales - 1

Mahler: Symphony No. 6 in A minor - 12
Messiaen: Oiseaux exotiques - 1
Monteverdi: Selva morale e spirituale - 2
Mozart: String Quintet No. 6 in E-flat - 1
Schoenberg: Violin Concerto, Op. 36 - 4 (+2)

Schumann: Fantasie in C Op. 17 - 2
Sibelius: Symphony No. 4 in A minor, Op. 64 - 10 
Stravinsky: Threni - 4
Takemitsu: Toward the Sea I - 1
Wagner: Tristan und Isolde - 8
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General Classical Music Discussion / Re: What are you listening to now?
« Last post by kyjo on Today at 01:02:11 PM »


One of my very favorite discs.  :) The cover art is a bit strange but somehow fitting for Arnold's often phantasmagorical sound-world.
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I'm not having any problems.  :)
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The Jazz Lounge / Re: What Jazz are you listening to now?
« Last post by king ubu on Today at 12:53:58 PM »
Ah okay so it is not like Fresh Sound is violating the artists' intentions in putting together an album - since Savoy did not really consult them anyway.

Well, different topic I guess. As a rule of thumb I'd assume no label basically ever bothered to ask the musicians about compiling and sequencing albums (often they'd probably even invent the titles for original tunes that didn't yet have any). In the fifties, several labels re-configured stuff, with the formats in use changing: singles, 10" and then 12" - labels such as Blue Note, Contemporary or Prestige sometimes just reissued material from 10" LPs in the new 12" format, either adding more music or sometimes recording a few more new tracks to fill up the playing time ... the classic Blue Notes by Monk and Bud were mostly all out first as 78 rpms, then on 10" and then again on 12". Savoy did similar re-configurations, I think (including 40s sessions - from when there were no LPs in jazz music at all - on 12" LPs in the 50s etc.)

I am not sure what is the best approach, but myself I like going chronological, in session order ... but of course there are many, many classic LPs where the LP configuration was just perfect in its own way (Blue Note is the perfect example for that, but that only starts around 1955/56 when the new 12" format was firmly established and they started exploring its new possibilities).

And finally, I guess hardly any record label/producer was as sympathetic to the musicians as Blue Note/Lion/Wolff were ... the guys behind Pacific (Dick Bock) and Contemporary (Les Koenig) maybe, but Bock for instance would do splices and edits and add strings and stuff - probably not bothering to ask the musicians. I'd say it would be most unfair to state that the producers and labels didn't bother about or like the music, but still, for most of them it was business (and the guys behind Savoy are a perfect case in point, no matter they produced some of the greatest music ever with Charlie Parker).
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