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Title: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Karl Henning on January 23, 2012, 09:48:42 AM
Whose complete symphony cycles do you have the most of, and how many?

I'm definitely a marginal player here, but I'll start off:

Shostakovich, 3: Maksim Dmitriyevich; Kondrashin; Haitink

Vaughan Williams, 3: Haitink; Handley; Thomson

Prokofiev, 4: Ozawa; Rozhdestvensky; Martinon; Järvi

Sibelius, 7: Maazel/Wiener; Blomstedt/SFSO; Berglund/Helsinki; Lenny/NY Phil; Vänskä/Lahti;  Rattle/CBSO;  Maazel/Pittsburgh

Nielsen, 3: Blomstedt/SFSO; Thomson; Schmidt
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: DavidW on January 23, 2012, 09:52:46 AM
Sibelius!  The reason why-- I sold off my cd collection and the only complete cycle I have on mp3 is the Vanska Sibelius cycle. :D

Pre-ultimate cull it was Mahler followed by Beethoven.
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: Mirror Image on January 23, 2012, 10:09:24 AM
Oh, I love this thread! Great idea, Karl!

You got the ball rolling, let's see if I can let it continue to roll...

Vaughan Williams - Thomson, Boult (Decca and EMI), Handley, Haitink, A. Davis, Daniel/Bakels, Previn, Slatkin

Shostakovich - Haitink, Kitajenko, Barshai, M. Shostakovich, Jansons, Rostropovich, Ashkenazy, Caetani, Kondrashin

Sibelius - all of C. Davis (Philips, RCA, LSO Live), Oramo, Blomstedt, Bernstein, both Maazel, Segerstam (Ondine), Vanska, Jarvi (DG), Inkinen, Barbirolli, Ashkenazy, Rattle, Berglund (middle EMI cycle), Sanderling, Sakari

Nielsen - Blomstedt (Decca), Schonwandt, Jarvi (DG), Kuchar, Rozhdestvensky, Salonen

Prokofiev - Jarvi, Kitajenko, Gergiev, Ozawa, Rostropovich

Bruckner - Chailly, Wand, Barenboim (Teldec), Inbal, Jochum (DG & EMI), Karajan, Maazel, Skrowaczewski, Solti, Haitink, Masur

Tchaikovsky - Abbado, Bernstein, Karajan, Jansons, Rostropovich, Muti, Mehta, Temirkanov, Svetlanov

Blue = favorite cycle

To be continued....
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: AnthonyAthletic on January 23, 2012, 10:12:52 AM
These are my top 3 overpopulated cycles....

[18] - Beethoven : Cluytens, Barenboim, Zinman, Wand, Karajan 50's, Karajan 60's, Karajan 70's, Gardiner, Masur, Harnoncourt, Maag, MacKerras, C. Davis, Klemperer, Haitink, W. Morris, Rattle, Abbado

[13] - Mahler : Chailly, Bertini, Solti, Abbado, Bernstein (Sony), Bernstein (DG), Gielen, Kubelik, Sinopoli, T.Thomas, Gergiev, Rattle, Tennstedt

[09] - Brahms : Karajan, Celibidache, Furtwangler, Sawallisch, Masur, Bohm, Abbado, Bernstein, Klemperer

[08] - Bruckner : Haitink, Jochum (DG), Jochum (EMI), Wand, Karajan, Chailly, Paternostro, Tintner, Celibidache ahem  :-[

Such as Shostakovich, Dvorak, Mendelssohn, Tchaikovsky & Vaughan Williams stroll in at around the 7 mark, poor old Mozart and Papa only have one!!  Elgar probably breaks the 20+ mark but as they are only two and a recon third then its hard to count Elgar  8)
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: Mirror Image on January 23, 2012, 10:17:04 AM
Quote from: AnthonyAthletic on January 23, 2012, 10:12:52 AM
Celibidache

I thought we were only dealing with complete cycles not partial ones.
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: AnthonyAthletic on January 23, 2012, 10:19:12 AM
Quote from: Mirror Image on January 23, 2012, 10:17:04 AM
I thought we were only dealing with complete cycles not partial ones.

It is complete, its as complete as Celibidache wanted it to be  ;D
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: Mirror Image on January 23, 2012, 10:20:16 AM
Quote from: AnthonyAthletic on January 23, 2012, 10:19:12 AM
It is complete, its as complete as Celibidache wanted it to be  ;D

Hmmm....
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: mc ukrneal on January 23, 2012, 10:27:00 AM
I have only one cycle of any given cycle if they are four or more symphonies (e.g.: Mahler, Beethoven, etc.). I probably have a couple duplicates of cycles with four symphonies or less (like Schumann or Brahms), but not sure those really count (since the number of cds is so much less). And with Schumann, one of them is a Mahler edition of Schumann's symphonies. It's not quite the same.

Here are a few examples of cycles which I do not yet have (which I guess makes me an anti-cycle collector, if we are talking about having the same conductor and orchestra and/or issued in one package):
Shostakovich (have about a third)
Sibelius (have 5-6 of the symphonies)
Nielson (none)
Prokofiev (two symphonies)
Mozart (I think I have all the symphonies from various performances - perhaps missing a couple, but not by one group)
Glazunov

I guess my philosophy to generally not buy works I already have is on track (more or less)...
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: John Copeland on January 23, 2012, 10:40:50 AM
Shosty 1 Rostropovich  (pending Haitink)
Sibelius 5  Davis, Maazel, Maazel, Segerstam. Ashkenazy
Vaughan Williams 3  Previn, Handley, Boult
Beethoven 4 Karajan (60's), Gardiner, Zinman, Klemperer
Mahler 3  Tennstedt, Inbal, Neumann
Bruckner 4  Inbal, Barenboim, Jochum (DG), Karajan
Tchaikovsky 2  Karajan (70's)[he did others?], Jansons
Rangstrom 1 Rasilainen
Nielsen 1 Blomstedt
Tubin 1 Jarvi
Atterberg 1 Rasilainen
Brahms 2  Solti, Barenboim
Mozart 1 Mackerras

My God, I used to have a heap load more, but they were lost a few years ago in flames... :'(  Still, done not bad since then...   :D
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: Todd on January 23, 2012, 10:43:33 AM
I try not to think of these things.  I've clearly got too many symphony recordings.  I may have missed a cycle or two, but below are all of the cases where I have more than one complete cycle.

Update: favorites marked with asterisk

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Mahler (17) - Kubelik I*, Bernstein I & III*, Bertini, Abravanel, Gielen, Levine (incomplete), MTT*, Tennstedt*, Sinopoli, Rattle, Inbal, Chailly, Svetlanov, Maazel, Zinman, Neumann

Beethoven (14) – Chailly*, Morris, Walter (40s/50s on United Archives)*, Furtwangler, Bernstein I, Toscanini ('39* & 50s RCA cycle), Karajan III, Abbado II* & III, Barenboim, Hogwood, Gardiner, Kempe

Brahms (12) – Celibidache I & II, Levine I*, Giulini II*, Furtwangler, Walter I & II, Barenboim, Karajan (70s), Abbado I, Toscanini (50s/stereo), Kubelik*

Schumann (7) – Kubelik II, Bernstein II, Zinman, Barenboim II*, Karajan, Szell, Skrowaczewski

Bruckner (7) – Jochum II, Barenboim I & II, Wand*, Karajan, Tintner, Celibidache II (incomplete)*

Sibelius (5) – Ashkenazy*, Blomstedt, Maazel II, Bernstein, Davis I

Tchaikovsky (3) – Markevitch, Temirkanov*, Karajan

Dvorak (3) – Kubelik*, Suitner, Rowicki

Haydn (2) – Fischer*, Davies*

Schubert (2) – Bohm*, Barenboim

Szymanowki (2) – Wit*, Stryja

Scriabin (2) – Ashkenazy, Muti*

Vaughn Williams (2) – Previn*, Slatkin

Martinu (2) – Neumann, Belohlavek*
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: AnthonyAthletic on January 23, 2012, 10:45:42 AM
Todd,

What's your figure on Beethoven P/Sons?  ;)
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: Karl Henning on January 23, 2012, 10:47:13 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on January 23, 2012, 09:48:42 AM
Whose complete symphony cycles do you have the most of, and how many?

I'm definitely a marginal player here, but I'll start off:

Shostakovich, 3: Maksim Dmitriyevich; Kondrashin; Haitink

Vaughan Williams, 3: Haitink; Handley; Thomson

Prokofiev, 3: Ozawa; Martinon; Järvi

Sibelius, 4: Maazel/Wiener; Blomstedt/SFSO; Berglund/Helsinki; Lenny/NY Phil

Of course, I missed:

Nielsen, 3: Blomstedt/SFSO; Thomson; Schmidt

Oh, the perdurable shame of having forgotten Nielsen in this thread!
: )
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: Todd on January 23, 2012, 10:49:44 AM
Quote from: AnthonyAthletic on January 23, 2012, 10:45:42 AMWhat's your figure on Beethoven P/Sons?  ;)


63 or 64 - can't remember off the top of my head.  And no, I don't see a problem with that. 
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: AnthonyAthletic on January 23, 2012, 10:51:44 AM
Quote from: Todd on January 23, 2012, 10:49:44 AM
63 or 64 - can't remember off the top of my head.  And no, I don't see a problem with that.

LOL, classic  ;D

I can't complain either, Mahler 5 for me stands at around the 60+ mark, plus maybe 10 to 15 bootlegs
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: Sergeant Rock on January 23, 2012, 11:19:01 AM
Favorites in bold (requested by George)

BEETHOVEN 11

KARAJAN  BERLIN PHIL (1963)
SOLTI CHICAGO
HARNONCOURT COE
KLEMPERER PHILHARMONIA
BARENBOIM STAATSKAP BERLIN
NORRINGTON LONDON CLASS
SZELL CLEVELAND
MAAZEL CLEVELAND
BRÜGGEN   18TH CENTURY
BERNSTEIN VIENNA PHIL
CELIBIDACHE MUNICH PHIL

BRAHMS 14

JOCHUM LPO
MACKERRAS SCOTTISH CHAMBER
KLEMPERER PHILHARMONIA
BARENBOIM CHICAGO
MAAZEL CLEVELAND
DOHNÁNYI CLEVELAND
SZELL CLEVELAND
FURTWÄNGLER   VARIOUS (M&A)
FURTWÄNGLER   VARIOUS (ARCHIPEL)

SANDERLING STAATS DRESDEN
WAND SONDR
CELIBIDACHE MUNICH PHIL
GIELEN SWR SO BADEN BADEN
ESCHENBACH HOUSTON


BRUCKNER 7

MAAZEL SOBR
CHAILLY CONCERGEBOUW RSO BERLIN
BARENBOIM BERLIN PHIL
WAND KÖLNER RSO
KARAJAN BERLIN PHIL
JOCHUM STAATS DRESDEN
CELIBIDACHE MUNICH (3-9)

DVORAK 4

SUITNER   STAATSKAPELLE BERLIN
ROWICKI   LSO
KERTESZ   LSO
KUBELIK   BERLIN PHIL


ELGAR 7

BOULT LPO
SINOPOLI PHILH
TATE    LSO
DAVIS LSO
SOLTI LPO
SLATKIN LPO
BARBIROLLI PHILHARMONIA HALLÉ

MAHLER 14 (16 INCLUDING KONDRASHIN AND LEVINE)

BERNSTEIN NEW YORK (SONY)
BERNSTEIN VARIOUS (DG)
BERNSTEIN VARIOUS (DVD)
MAAZEL VIENNA PHIL
BERTINI KÖLNER RSO
NEUMANN    CZECH PHIL
SINOPOLI  PHILHARMONIA
RATTLE CBSO
TENNSTEDT LPO
SVETLANOV RUSSIAN STATE SO
INBAL RSO FRANKFURT
BOULEZ VARIOUS
CHAILLY CONCERTGEBOUW
GIELEN SWR SO BADEN BADEN
LEVINE VARIOUS
KONDRASHIN MOSCOW PHIL

MARTINU 3

JÄRVI BAMBERG
NEUMANN    CZECH PHIL
THOMSON    ROYAL SCOTTISH

NIELSEN 8

SCHMIDT   LSO
BLOMSTEDT SAN FRANCISCO
BERNSTEIN/ORMANDY VARIOUS
KUCHAR JANACEK PHIL
ROZHDESTVENSKY STOCKHOLM PHIL
SALONEN   SWEDISH RADIO SO
SCHONWANDT   DANISH NAT SO
BERGLUND ROYAL DANISH

PROKOFIEV 7

ROZHDESTVENSKY MOSCOW PHIL
OZAWA BERLIN PHIL
JÄRVI SNO
KITAJENKO GÜRZENICH O KÖLN
WELLER LSO
ROSTROPOVICH VARIOUS
GERGIEV LSO

SCHMIDT 4

RAJTER RSO BRATISLAVA
LUISI MDR SO
JÄRVI DETROIT/CHICAGO
SINAISKY MALMÖ SO


SCHUBERT 6

GOODMAN HANOVER BAND
HARNONCOURT CONCERTGEBOUW
IMMERSEEL ANIMA ETERNA
DAVIS STAATS DRESDEN
BLOMSTEDT STAATS DRESDEN
WAND KÖLNER RSO

SCHUMANN 7

GOODMAN HANNOVER BAND
SZELL CLEVELAND
KLEMPERER NEW PHILH
BARENBOIM STAATS BERLIN
BERNSTEIN VIENNA PHIL
SEMKOW ST LOUIS
CHAILLY GO LEIPZIG

SHOSTAKOVICH 4

JANSONS   VARIOUS
ROSTROPOVICH NATIONAL SO LSO
BARSHAI WDR SO
KITAJENKO GÜRZENICH O KÖLN

MENDELSSOHN-BARTHOLDY 2

DOHNÁNYI VIENNA PHIL
KARAJAN BERLIN PHIL

SIBELIUS 18

DAVIS LSO
DAVIS BOSTON
DAVIS LSO LIVE
JÄRVI GOTHENBURG S
BERNSTEIN NY PHIL
VÄNSKÄ LAHTI SO
SANDERLING BERLIN SO
MAAZEL VIENNA PHIL
MAAZEL PITTSBURGH
BERGLUND COE
BERGLUND BOURNEMOUTH
ASHKENAZY PHILHARMONIA
ROZHDESTVENSKY MOSCOW RSO
SEGERSTAM HELSINKI PHIL
RATTLE CBSO
BLOMSTEDT SAN FRANCISCO
SAKARI ICELAND SO
BARBIROLLI HALLÉ

TIPPETT 2

DAVIS LSO (SOLTI/CHICAGO #4)
HICKOX BOURNEMOUTH

VAUGHAN WILLIAMS 8

HAITINK LPO
HANDLEY RLPO
PREVIN LSO
THOMSON LSO
BOULT LPO (EMI)
BOULT LPO (DECCA)
SLATKIN PHILHARMONIA
DAVIS BBC


Sarge







Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: Sergeant Rock on January 23, 2012, 11:21:03 AM
Quote from: Scots John on January 23, 2012, 10:40:50 AM
My God, I used to have a heap load more, but they were lost a few years ago in flames... :'(  Still, done not bad since then...   :D

Your collection's resurrection is mightily impressive, John.

Sarge
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: Karl Henning on January 23, 2012, 11:22:06 AM
Interesting that we've no overlap in Dmitri Dmitriyevich, Sarge!
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: Sergeant Rock on January 23, 2012, 11:23:15 AM
Quote from: Todd on January 23, 2012, 10:43:33 AM
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Mahler (17) - Kubelik, Bernstein I & III, Bertini, Abravanel, Gielen, Levine (incomplete), MTT, Tennstedt, Sinopoli, Rattle, Inbal, Chailly, Svetlanov, Maazel, Zinman, Neumann

And you didn't post that fact in the Mahler Madness thread? You might have won, dude!

Sarge
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: George on January 23, 2012, 11:24:43 AM
Can I ask that folks indicate their favorite(s)? I think it'd be a useful way to find considered recommendations.
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: Sergeant Rock on January 23, 2012, 11:29:50 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on January 23, 2012, 11:22:06 AM
Interesting that we've no overlap in Dmitri Dmitriyevich, Sarge!

I have a few Kondrashins in my collection. I like his 15th...about as far from Sanderling (my favorite) as one could get interpretively but all the more interesting because of it.

Haitink's cycle is about 50% complete. I've been collecting individually for what, 25 years now? In fact, I ordered Haitink's 14th a few days ago. Should be here any day now.

Sarge
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: Todd on January 23, 2012, 11:30:19 AM
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on January 23, 2012, 11:23:15 AMAnd you didn't post that fact in the Mahler Madness thread? You might have won, dude!


I do not believe I have read that thread.  2011 was a year of only a few musical foci for me, and one was Mahler symphonies.  I added 12 cycles last year. 

What would I have won?  Please don't say a nice single malt.


Quote from: George on January 23, 2012, 11:24:43 AMCan I ask that folks indicate their favorite(s)? I think it'd be a useful way to find considered recommendations.


Updated mine.  Most don't have one favorite.
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: Sergeant Rock on January 23, 2012, 11:40:58 AM
Quote from: Todd on January 23, 2012, 11:30:19 AM

What would I have won?

A one-way ticket to the looney bin  :D

Sarge
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: George on January 23, 2012, 11:53:02 AM
Quote from: Todd on January 23, 2012, 11:30:19 AM
Updated mine.  Most don't have one favorite.

Thanks! Hope others do the same.
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: George on January 23, 2012, 11:53:30 AM
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on January 23, 2012, 11:40:58 AM
A one-way ticket to the looney bin  :D

Sarge

;D :D ;D
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: George on January 23, 2012, 11:54:41 AM
Quote from: AnthonyAthletic on January 23, 2012, 10:12:52 AM
[08] - Bruckner :...Celibidache ahem  :-[

:'(
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: Sergeant Rock on January 23, 2012, 11:57:29 AM
Quote from: George on January 23, 2012, 11:54:41 AM
:'(

I refuse not to count Celi  8)

Sarge
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: George on January 23, 2012, 12:03:07 PM
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on January 23, 2012, 11:57:29 AM
I refuse not to count Celi  8)

Sarge

Exactly.  $:)
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: Papy Oli on January 23, 2012, 12:12:34 PM
Beethoven (2) - Gardiner, HvK 63 + Celi  ;D

Brahms (2) - Eschenbach, Celi

Bruckner (2) - Wand, Jochum + Celi  ;D

Mahler (11 ) - Chailly, Gielen, Maazel VPO, Tennstedt LPO, Bernstein Sony, Bernstein DG, Solti, Bertini incl. partials of Klemperer, Levine, Sinopoli

Sibelius (2) - K. Sandeling, Blomstedt

and that's it.... all the rest is just one of each.... :-[

Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: Mirror Image on January 23, 2012, 12:30:37 PM
Continued from initial list...

Martinu - Thomson, Jarvi, Belohlavek, Neumann, Valek

Rachmaninov - Ashkenazy, Jansons, Svetlanov, Dutoit, Pletnev

Schubert - Bohm, Marriner, Harnoncourt, Kertesz

Schumann - Bernstein, Karajan, Szell, Harnoncourt, Chailly (orch. Mahler)

Beethoven - Bernstein (Sony), Karajan (60s cycle DG), Harnoncourt, Zinman, Klemperer, Abbado (second DG cycle)

Mendelssohn - Karajan, Abbado, Dohnanyi, Flor, Masur, Ashkenazy

Elgar - Barbirolli, Sinopolli, Davis (LSO Live), Slatkin, Boult (EMI and Lyrita), Solti, Thomson, A. Davis

Honegger - Dutoit, Plasson, Baudo

Blue = favorite cycle

To be continued...
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: Karl Henning on January 23, 2012, 12:36:53 PM
Quote from: Mirror Image on January 23, 2012, 12:30:37 PM
Do Wagner Ring cycles count?

The OP called for symphony cycles. So we shall disallow Wagner : )
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: mc ukrneal on January 23, 2012, 01:01:39 PM
Todd/Sarge/Eveyone who has helped identify favorites - Really appreciate that. Identifying a few favorites is quite helpful for me and generates some good ideas (perhaps exploring more than I might have). THANK YOU!!
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: Mirror Image on January 23, 2012, 01:05:35 PM
Quote from: karlhenning on January 23, 2012, 12:36:53 PM
The OP called for symphony cycles. So we shall disallow Wagner : )

Oh, okay...thank you for clarifying, Karl.
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: George on January 23, 2012, 01:17:17 PM
Quote from: mc ukrneal on January 23, 2012, 01:01:39 PM
Todd/Sarge/Eveyone who has helped identify favorites - Really appreciate that. Identifying a few favorites is quite helpful for me and generates some good ideas (perhaps exploring more than I might have). THANK YOU!!

Seconded!!  :)
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: Mirror Image on January 23, 2012, 01:19:19 PM
Quote from: mc ukrneal on January 23, 2012, 01:01:39 PM
Todd/Sarge/Eveyone who has helped identify favorites - Really appreciate that. Identifying a few favorites is quite helpful for me and generates some good ideas (perhaps exploring more than I might have). THANK YOU!!

That's a good idea. I'm going to go back and highlight my favorites in blue for each composer.
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: DieNacht on January 23, 2012, 01:29:48 PM
Complete one-conductor cycles :

Beethoven: 5: Mengelberg, Toscanini, Karajan DG2, Leibowitz, Bernstein NYPO                                                           ¨
(+ Scherchen nos.1-8, Furtwängler nos.1,3-7,9. Sold Konwitschny, Karajan/EMI, Bernstein/DG, Blomstedt).

Brahms: 3: Karajan/early DG, Boult, Toscanini (actually sold Furtwängler)

Scriabin: 3: Muti, Svetlanov, Golovanov

Sibelius: 3: Rozhdestvensky, Ashkenazy, Davis 1 (excepting the Kullervo. Sold Abravanel and Maazel/decca)

Rachmaninov: 3: Ashkenazy/decca, Weller, de Waart

V-Williams: 2: Boult, Previn

EDIT: Rimsky-Korsakov: 2: Svetlanov, Butt

That said, I´ve probably got 1100 different symphonies, from Haydn and onwards, some of them in up to 10 (15?) versions.
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: jlaurson on January 23, 2012, 01:37:39 PM
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on January 23, 2012, 11:19:01 AM
Favorites in bold (requested by George)

I always take Sarge as a template; it's easier that way, given the overlap.

Although I don't think there's  a Celi-LvB Cycle, is there?


BEETHOVEN 19?

KARAJAN  BERLIN PHIL (1970s)
BARENBOIM STAATSKAP BERLIN
BRÜGGEN   18TH CENTURY
BERNSTEIN VIENNA PHIL
Chailly, Leipzig
Thielemann, Vienna
Jaervi, Bremen
Vanska, Minnesota
Blomstedt, Staatskapelle
Masur, Leipzig 70s
Fedoseyev, Tchaikovsky Symphony Orchestra of the Moscow Radio
Gardiner, ORR
J.v.Immerseel, Anima Eterna
Abbado, Rome (BPh)
Rattle, Vienna
Toscanini, NBC
Haitink, LSO
Jochum, BPh, BRSO
Kletzki, CzPO
...


BRUCKNER 7 1/2

MAAZEL SOBR
Haitink CONCERGEBOUW
WAND KÖLNER RSO
KARAJAN BERLIN PHIL
Jochum BRSO/BPh
CELIBIDACHE MUNICH (3-9)
Jochum Bros. (Eugen & Georg)
Furtwangler (incomplete)
...?

MAHLER 14

BERNSTEIN NEW YORK (SONY)
BERNSTEIN VARIOUS (DG)
SINOPOLI  PHILHARMONIA
RATTLE CBSO
SVETLANOV RUSSIAN STATE SO
BOULEZ VARIOUS
CHAILLY CONCERTGEBOUW
GIELEN SWR SO BADEN BADEN
Kubelik, BRSO
Gergiev, LSO
MTT, SFSO
Haitink, Christmas (incomplete)
Kondrashin (incomplete)
Kubelik, Audite (incomplete)


SHOSTAKOVICH 4

BARSHAI WDR SO
KITAJENKO GÜRZENICH O KÖLN
Kondrashin, Moscow PSO
Haitink


SIBELIUS 14
http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2009/05/survey-of-sibelius-cycles.html (http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2009/05/survey-of-sibelius-cycles.html)
DAVIS LSO
DAVIS BOSTON
DAVIS LSO LIVE
BERNSTEIN NY PHIL
VÄNSKÄ LAHTI SO
SANDERLING BERLIN SO
MAAZEL VIENNA PHIL
MAAZEL PITTSBURGH
ASHKENAZY PHILHARMONIA
SEGERSTAM HELSINKI PHIL
RATTLE CBSO
BLOMSTEDT SAN FRANCISCO
SAKARI ICELAND SO
BARBIROLLI HALLÉ



Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: Sergeant Rock on January 23, 2012, 02:17:36 PM
Quote from: jlaurson on January 23, 2012, 01:37:39 PM
Although I don't think there's  a Celi-LvB Cycle, is there?

Like his Munich Bruckner, almost complete: 2-9. There are two Fourths (1987 & 1995).

Sarge
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: nesf on January 23, 2012, 03:22:58 PM
Beethoven: 6

Karajan (60s)
Abbado
Chailly
Gardiner
Krips & LSO
Blomstedt (Brilliant Box Set)

Prokofiev: 1
Jaarvi (SNO)

Sibelius: 1
Ashkenazy

Brahms: 1
Karajan (2003 reissue, 80s/70s)

Bruckner: 1
Karajan (spot a pattern yet? :D)

Mendelssohn: 1
Sawallish (Brilliant Box Set)

Tchaikovsky: 1
Muti
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: George on January 23, 2012, 03:45:52 PM
Beethoven (5)

Wand
Karajan 1963
Karajan 1977
Szell
Baenboim
Chailly
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: Mirror Image on January 23, 2012, 04:36:40 PM
Quote from: nesf on January 23, 2012, 03:22:58 PM

Sibelius: 2
Karajan


I hate to nitpick, but Karajan never completed Sibelius's symphonies.
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: nesf on January 23, 2012, 05:00:02 PM
Quote from: Mirror Image on January 23, 2012, 04:36:40 PM
I hate to nitpick, but Karajan never completed Sibelius's symphonies.

Noted and removed. :)

Yeah, just checked, I was thinking of the Kamu/Karajan series. Misremembered it as only Karajan.
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: Mirror Image on January 23, 2012, 05:25:15 PM
Quote from: nesf on January 23, 2012, 05:00:02 PM
Noted and removed. :)

Yeah, just checked, I was thinking of the Kamu/Karajan series. Misremembered it as only Karajan.

You know I always found it interesting that Karajan didn't do a complete Sibelius cycle. He would have excelled in the other symphonies I think.
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: Brian on January 23, 2012, 05:55:19 PM
Beethoven symphonies (12 or 13)
Karajan '62
Mackerras/SCO
Abbado (red "Rome" box)
Barenboim

Hogwood (No. 4)
Gardiner
Bruggen
Immerseel (No. 5)
Haitink/LSO Live
Szell
Harnoncourt
P. Jarvi (except #9) (No. 2)
Vanska (I think complete? Not sure)

Sibelius (6)
Ashkenazy
Berglund/EMI
Maazel/Pittsburgh
Davis/LSO Live
Bernstein
Vanska
(favorites varying widely by symphony: 1 Segerstam/Ondine, 2 none, 3 Segerstam/Ondine, Davis/LSO Live, Mustonen, 4 Maazel/Pittsburgh, 5 Bernstein, 6 Ashkenazy, 7 Segerstam/Ondine, Inkinen!)

Beethoven sonatas (3)
Lucchesini
Lipkind
Gilels (incomplete)
Had Kempff, previously
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: George on January 23, 2012, 05:58:17 PM
Can you indicate your favorites, please, Brian?
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: Brian on January 23, 2012, 06:01:26 PM
Quote from: George on January 23, 2012, 05:58:17 PM
Can you indicate your favorites, please, Brian?

Edited them in, but especially in the case of Sibelius they're not very clear-cut!
The Beethoven bolded numbers indicate my favorites for particular symphonies.
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: George on January 23, 2012, 06:04:07 PM
Quote from: Brian on January 23, 2012, 06:01:26 PM
Edited them in, but especially in the case of Sibelius they're not very clear-cut!
The Beethoven bolded numbers indicate my favorites for particular symphonies.

Thanks, we are on the same page for Barenboim's LvB and Gilels's LvB.
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: kishnevi on January 23, 2012, 07:14:01 PM
Beethoven:
Gardiner, P. Jarvi, Immerseel, Goodman-Huggett (Hanover Band), Toscanini, Muti, Harnoncourt, Bohm VPO, Karajan 1963, Zinman. Bernstein VPO,  the Naxos hotchpot of Central European orchestras  12, no partials at the moment

(I could have sworn I have more, but I can't think of any others!)

Mahler:  Bernstein Sony and Bernstein DG, Tennstedt, MTT, Gergiev, Zinman, Inbal, Bertini, the not complete Levine, and large portions of Boulez, Abbado Chicago, and Rattle. 8 plus Levine, and three partials.

Other composers are considerably less.  Brahms is probably the nearest: Eschenbach, Rattle, Muti, Gardiner 4 (no very clear favorite)

Schumann--Kubelik, Zinman, Sawallisch, Vonk 4

Everyone else is no more than two, even Bruckner (Jochum EMI and Wand) and Shostakovich (Haitink, Barshai) although I've got all of Gergiev's and Petrenko's, and if those become completed cycles,  I'll have four Shosty cycles.

Non symphonies--only Beethoven really counts here.  I've got at least two cycles each of the string quartets, the piano trios, the piano concertos, the violin sonatas and the piano sonatas.

ETA:I've also got what Norrington has released as his series of Mahler and Bruckner recordings . and Chaillys Mahler cycle is part of the Presto order that got lost in transit, so I both have and don't have that one.
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: eyeresist on January 23, 2012, 11:51:50 PM
I have cycles of some other symphonists, but these are the ones who matter most to me (may be incomplete, because I don't keep records of these things!):


SHOSTAKOVICH: Kondrashin, Mravinsky (incomplete), Barshai, Jansons, Rozhdestvensky, Slovak

VAUGHAN WILLIAMS: Previn, Handley, Thomson, Boult EMI, Haitink

PROKOFIEV: (order of preference) Kuchar, Rozhdestvensky, Weller, Gergiev, Jarvi

SIBELIUS: (all pretty good overall) Collins, Berglund Helsinki, Maazel Vienna, Barbirolli, Karajan (DG & EMI - incomplete), Ashkenazy

MAHLER: Tennstedt, Bertini, Rattle, Bernstein Sony

DVORAK: Pesek, Gunzenhauser, Kertesz, Suitner, Anguelov

BRUCKNER: Karajan (I might 'bold' this if it ever gets remastered!), Tintner, Jochum EMI

You may be interested to know that "Climatic cyclicity with a period of about 35 years is known as the Bruckner cycle."
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: jlaurson on January 24, 2012, 12:10:57 AM
Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on January 23, 2012, 07:14:01 PM

Non symphonies--only Beethoven really counts here.  I've got at least two cycles each of the string quartets, the piano trios, the piano concertos, the violin sonatas and the piano sonatas.

Re: Non-Symphonies: If Brahms and Schumann Sys. count as 'cycles', or Bartok Quartets (to me, they don't, at 2 CDs each), certainly Mozart Piano Sonatas & Quartets, Haydn Quartets & Piano Trios, Bach Organ Works, etc. etc.  They all make lovely, collectible sets. 

Certainly LvB Piano Sonatas are very collectible, as Todd can tell you.
http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2009/05/beethoven-sonatas-survey-of-complete.html (http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2009/05/beethoven-sonatas-survey-of-complete.html)

LvB Sonatas
Schnabel, Kempff I, Kempff II, Backhaus II, Gulda II*, Kuerti, Ashkenazy, Arrau II, D.A.Wehr, Oppitz, Lewis, Brautigam**, Gilels**

LvB SQ4ts
Alexander II, Leipzig Gewandhaus, Takacs, Q.Italiano, Guarneri I, Tokyo I, Tokyo II, Vegh II, Juilliard II...

DSCH SQ4ts
Borodin I, Borodin II, Brodsky, Emerson, Mandelring, Sorrel,...

Haydn SQ4ts
Auryn, Kodaly, Festetics...

Haydn Symphonies
Fischer, Dorati, DRDavies

Haydn Piano Trios
Beaux Arts, Eisenstadt, 1790, Van Swieten

Mozart Keyboard Sonatas
Brautigam, Uchida, Larrocha, Pires II, Eschenbach, Wurtz, Gould...

Mozart Piano Concertos
Perahia, Uchida, Schiff...


etc.

Quoteonly symphonic cycles!

fine.  Jawohl.


B R A H M S:

Furtwangler, BPh
Wand, NDR
Eschenbach, Houston SO
Rattle, BPh
Dohnanyi, Philharmonia
Giulini, Philharmonia
Haitink, RCO
Alsop, LSO
Gardiner, ORR
Karajan, BPh (mixed)
Levine, WPh
Janowski, Pittsburgh
Bernstein, WPh, DVD

Maybe Celi, Stuttgart

I had Haitink, LSO, but found it awful and let it go quietly at some point.

Could be interested in the Gielen, but probably nothing else. Well, maybe Jochum / BPh or Kubelik / BRSO.
But I need only one cycle, and that's Wand. And one alternative, and that's Rattle, which is awesome in its own, unique way: http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2010/03/dip-your-ears-no-100.html (http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2010/03/dip-your-ears-no-100.html)




Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: Mirror Image on January 24, 2012, 08:16:44 AM
Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on January 23, 2012, 07:14:01 PM
Beethoven:
Gardiner, P. Jarvi, Immerseel, Goodman-Huggett (Hanover Band), Toscanini, Muti, Harnoncourt, Bohm VPO, Karajan 1963, Zinman. Bernstein VPO,  the Naxos hotchpot of Central European orchestras  12, no partials at the moment

(I could have sworn I have more, but I can't think of any others!)

Mahler:  Bernstein Sony and Bernstein DG, Tennstedt, MTT, Gergiev, Zinman, Inbal, Bertini, the not complete Levine, and large portions of Boulez, Abbado Chicago, and Rattle. 8 plus Levine, and three partials.

Other composers are considerably less.  Brahms is probably the nearest: Eschenbach, Rattle, Muti, Gardiner 4 (no very clear favorite)

Schumann--Kubelik, Zinman, Sawallisch, Vonk 4

Everyone else is no more than two, even Bruckner (Jochum EMI and Wand) and Shostakovich (Haitink, Barshai) although I've got all of Gergiev's and Petrenko's, and if those become completed cycles,  I'll have four Shosty cycles.

Non symphonies--only Beethoven really counts here.  I've got at least two cycles each of the string quartets, the piano trios, the piano concertos, the violin sonatas and the piano sonatas.

ETA:I've also got what Norrington has released as his series of Mahler and Bruckner recordings . and Chaillys Mahler cycle is part of the Presto order that got lost in transit, so I both have and don't have that one.

Karl, wants you to list all of your symphony cycles ---- nothing else, so string quartet cycles, piano sonatas, etc. do not count.
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: madaboutmahler on January 24, 2012, 08:21:17 AM
Wonderful thread idea. My collection is rather small at the moment, but it shall continue to grow! So, at the moment, my 'cyclomania' posts would be:
Symphonies:
Mahler: Bernstein DG, Bernstein Sony, Solti, Rattle, Sinopoli, Bertini.
Elgar: Solti, EMI Boult, Lyrita Boult, Barbirolli, C.Davis LSO Live, A.Davis BBCSO, Elder, Elgar Naxos Historical, the Naxos cycle (Hurst for no.1, Downes for no.2), Handley. I think that's it... :)
Beethoven: Haitink, Rattle, Zinman, Karajan DG, Goodman.
Brahms: Rattle, Karajan, Wand

will return with more later... don't get complete cycles too often though, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: jlaurson on January 24, 2012, 08:38:26 AM
Quote from: madaboutmahler on January 24, 2012, 08:21:17 AM

Brahms: Rattle, Karajan, Wand

will return with more later... don't get complete cycles too often though, unfortunately.

Interesting Elgar-Overkill.  ;)

Brahms: PERFECT TRIUMVIRATE! Nothing really that you'll ever need to add to that, in my opinion.

Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: chasmaniac on January 24, 2012, 08:45:12 AM
Symphony cycles, eh?

Johann Ernst Hartmann (Mortensen), complete on one disc!
J Haydn (Fischer)
JC Bach (Halstead)
Mozart (Tate)
Beethoven (Mackerras, Immerseel)
Schubert (Marriner)
Mendelssohn (Abbado)
Schumann (Zinman)
Brahms (Karajan)
Dvorak (Valek)
Vaughn Williams (Handley)

Only one repeat. A tidy and respectable lot, I think.
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: North Star on January 24, 2012, 09:02:01 AM
Quote from: madaboutmahler on January 24, 2012, 08:21:17 AM
My collection is rather small at the moment

Pffft!

The EMI Mahler box ought to suit you.
You don't have any Schumann sets, any reason for this?
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: jlaurson on January 24, 2012, 09:07:20 AM
Quote from: chasmaniac on January 24, 2012, 08:45:12 AM
Symphony cycles, eh?

J Haydn (Fischer)  :)
Mozart (Tate)  :-\
Beethoven (Mackerras WHICH ONE?, Immerseel)  :),  :D
Schubert (Marriner)  :)- :-\
Mendelssohn (Abbado)  :(
Schumann (Zinman)  :)
Brahms (Karajan)  :D
Dvorak (Valek)  ???
Vaughn Williams (Handley)  :)

Only one repeat. A tidy and respectable lot, I think.

Too bad one cannot introduce Surveys to thread already ongoing.
Would be great if we could all vote on our favorite cycles in one neat thread.

M E N D E L S S O H N:

Karajan,  ;D
Dohnanyi,  0:)
Sawallisch,  >:(
Masur,  :-\
Flor,  ;D
Maag,  :)
Abbado,  :(
Ashkenazy,  :-\

Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: DavidW on January 24, 2012, 09:12:32 AM
I think I want to see that smily face rating system alot more often, it's awesome!! 8)
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: John Copeland on January 24, 2012, 09:18:12 AM
Updated favs, forgot to add Previn to RVW but now added, don't know why forgot becuase its a great set.
http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,19814.msg595131.html#msg595131 (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,19814.msg595131.html#msg595131)
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: Lisztianwagner on January 24, 2012, 09:34:13 AM
Nice thread :) My collection is growing up, but it's not still very big at the moment:

Beethoven Karajan, Abbado/BPO
Mahler Bernstein DG, Solti
Sibelius Ashkenazy, Maazel/VPO
Brahms Karajan
Tchaikovsky Karajan
Bruckner Karajan
Schumann Karajan
Nielsen Blomstedt

I will return later......
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: Karl Henning on January 24, 2012, 09:59:54 AM
Quote from: Lisztianwagner on January 24, 2012, 09:34:13 AM
Wagner Karajan, Solti, Barenboim

They all recorded the symphonies? ; )
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: Lisztianwagner on January 24, 2012, 10:07:10 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on January 24, 2012, 09:59:54 AM
They all recorded the symphonies? ; )

If only, it would have certainly been very interesting.

I'm sorry, I thought this thread was about cycles in general and not only about symphonies; my mistake :)
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Karl Henning on January 24, 2012, 10:10:03 AM
No worries!  Threads on GMG do tend to spin out centrifugally . . . so I thought I'd have a go at keeping this one on track.
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: mc ukrneal on January 24, 2012, 10:11:48 AM
Quote from: DavidW on January 24, 2012, 09:12:32 AM
I think I want to see that smily face rating system alot more often, it's awesome!! 8)
I like it too. But he put some of the smilies next to the wrong name!  ;D ;)
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Karl Henning on January 24, 2012, 10:14:11 AM
Quote from: George on January 23, 2012, 11:24:43 AM
Can I ask that folks indicate their favorite(s)? I think it'd be a useful way to find considered recommendations.

Done (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,19814.msg595107.html#msg595107), although in the case of Sibelius and Nielsen, I've no clear favorites among the sets I have . . . nor is any a turkey IMO : )
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: madaboutmahler on January 24, 2012, 10:35:32 AM
Quote from: jlaurson on January 24, 2012, 08:38:26 AM
Interesting Elgar-Overkill.  ;)

Brahms: PERFECT TRIUMVIRATE! Nothing really that you'll ever need to add to that, in my opinion.

:D

Thank you! There are some more Brahms sets I want... but will probably wait a while, maybe until I have all the Mahler cycles available. :D

Quote from: North Star on January 24, 2012, 09:02:01 AM
Pffft!

The EMI Mahler box ought to suit you.
You don't have any Schumann sets, any reason for this?

My collection really is rather small! Tiny compared to someones like Sarge's.
I probably won't get the EMI Mahler box as I have most of the performances in it. Great for anyone who doesn't though! Hope you are enjoying it.
I do have a Schumann set, actually I have two, the Zinman and the Sawallisch. I left quite a few sets out actually. Back with more later perhaps.

Quote from: chasmaniac on January 24, 2012, 08:45:12 AM
Symphony cycles, eh?

Johann Ernst Hartmann (Mortensen), complete on one disc!
J Haydn (Fischer)
JC Bach (Halstead)
Mozart (Tate)
Beethoven (Mackerras, Immerseel)
Schubert (Marriner)
Mendelssohn (Abbado)
Schumann (Zinman)
Brahms (Karajan)
Dvorak (Valek)
Vaughn Williams (Handley)

Only one repeat. A tidy and respectable lot, I think.

No Mahler?!  :o ;)
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: George on January 24, 2012, 10:55:18 AM
Quote from: DavidW on January 24, 2012, 09:12:32 AM
I think I want to see that smily face rating system alot more often, it's awesome!! 8)

Yes but is the big grin a positive or negative reccomendation?
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: chasmaniac on January 24, 2012, 10:57:12 AM
Quote from: madaboutmahler on January 24, 2012, 10:35:32 AM
:No Mahler?!  :o ;)

No Mauler, sorry about that. I was a fan of Haystack Calhoun though.  ;D
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: jlaurson on January 24, 2012, 11:12:02 AM
Quote from: George on January 24, 2012, 10:55:18 AM
Yes but is the big grin a positive or negative reccomendation?

Positive, of course. What else? Grin as in: "You idiot bought into that crummy cycle being awesome?" No.

I wouldn't really want to define the smilies too much, as they'd be robbed of interpretive nuance that way... but roughly:

0:) Divine
;D Smile inducing
:D Awesome
:) Very naaaaihce!
;) I see where you're going with that
:-\ Mhewwee.
:( Nah, not really successful
::) Oh gawd. 'spose he didn't know better. Beginner's mistake.
>:( Horribilus
:o How could you!
:P It feels a little sour in my mouth
:-X I think I have to hurl.
:'( Makes me cry... why would anyone do that to this music...




Quote from: Lisztianwagner on January 24, 2012, 09:34:13 AM
Nice thread :) My collection is growing up, but it's not still very big at the moment:

Beethoven Karajan (63 presumably?), Abbado (Berlin I, presumably?)  ;D,  :)
Mahler Bernstein DG, Solti  :),  :-\
Sibelius Ashkenazy, Maazel (Vienna, presumably?),  ;D,  0:)
Brahms Karajan (early, later, or mix?)  :)
Tchaikovsky Karajan  :D
Bruckner Karajan  :D
Schumann Karajan  :-\
Nielsen Blomstedt  :D

I will return later......
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Marc on January 24, 2012, 11:25:27 AM
Since I'm more of a baroque bloke, I do not really hunt after symphony cycles.

YET, I do have some, or so I discovered. ;)

I've got more than 3 of these composers:

Beethoven
Konwitschny
Karajan 60s DG
Leibowitz
Blomstedt
Masur
Kegel
Sawallisch
Zinman
Norrington 1 (LCP)
Brüggen
Van Immerseel
Haitink 3 (LSO live)

Brahms
Van Beinum
Haitink (CO)
Sawallisch
Van Zweden
Chailly

Tchaikovsky
Muti
Litton
Jansons
Pletnev

Mahler
Bernstein 70s (DG-DVD) & 80s (DG-CD)
Haitink
Kubelik
Solti
Tennstedt
Sinopoli
Inbal
Bertini
Rattle
Brilliant Classics mixed boxset

Concerning Mahler: Bertini's definitely my favourite integral, but I enjoy a lot of goodies in each and every set I'm happy to own.

Concerning the lot: there's only one let-down maybe, which is Litton's Tchaikovsky, I'm sorry to say.
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: madaboutmahler on January 24, 2012, 11:33:27 AM
Quote from: Marc on January 24, 2012, 11:25:27 AM
Mahler
Bernstein 70s (DG-DVD) & 80s (DG-CD)
Haitink
Kubelik
Solti
Tennstedt
Sinopoli
Inbal
Bertini
Rattle
Brilliant Classics mixed boxset

Concerning Mahler: Bertini's definitely my favourite integral, but I enjoy a lot of goodies in each and every set I'm happy to own.

Concerning the lot: there's only one let-down maybe, which is Litton's Tchaikovsky, I'm sorry to say.

Good to see so much Mahler, Marc!

I actually rather like the Litton Tchaikovsky set - wonderful performances to me!
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Marc on January 24, 2012, 11:42:53 AM
Quote from: madaboutmahler on January 24, 2012, 11:33:27 AM
Good to see so much Mahler, Marc!

I actually rather like the Litton Tchaikovsky set - wonderful performances to me!

I remember missing emotion, commitment and 'bite', especially in nos. 4-6, and also not being all that fond of the sound quality. It's been some time since I last listened to either one of them.

I'd like to add, that I also have two twofers with nos. 4-6 and they're good (Maazel, Wiener Phil) and very good (Mravinsky, Leningrad Phil [stereo DG]).
So: there's still plenty of Pjotr to enjoy in da house, despide the lacklustre (IMHO) Andrew.
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: madaboutmahler on January 24, 2012, 11:48:41 AM
Quote from: Marc on January 24, 2012, 11:42:53 AM
I remember missing emotion, commitment and 'bite', especially in nos. 4-6, and also not being all that fond of the sound quality. It's been some time since I last listened to either one of them.

I'd like to add, that I also have two twofers with nos. 4-6 and they're good (Maazel, Wiener Phil) and very good (Mravinsky, Leningrad Phil [stereo DG]).
So: there's still plenty of Pjotr to enjoy in da house, despide the lacklustre (IMHO) Andrew.

Well, I suppose that's fair, especially considering the other recordings of no.4-6 you have. Mravinsky is beyond amazing...

I also have quite a few 'twofers' of no.4-6 which are Karajan, Mravinsky, Pappano. The Litton is the complete cycle I have. Thinking of getting the complete Muti cycle, and also the Andris Nelsons 4-6.
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: jlaurson on January 24, 2012, 11:56:50 AM
B E E T H O V E N  (20?)

KARAJAN  BERLIN PHIL (1970s)  :)
BARENBOIM STAATSKAP BERLIN  ;D
BRÜGGEN   18TH CENTURY
BERNSTEIN VIENNA PHIL
Chailly, Leipzig  8)
Thielemann, Vienna  ;)
Jaervi, Bremen  0:)
Vanska, Minnesota  ;D
Blomstedt, Staatskapelle
Masur, Leipzig 70s
Fedoseyev, Tchaikovsky Symphony Orchestra of the Moscow Radio  >:(
Gardiner, ORR  :D
J.v.Immerseel, Anima Eterna  :)
Abbado, Rome (BPh)  :D
Rattle, Vienna  :-\
Toscanini, NBC  ::)
Haitink, LSO  :-[
Jochum, BPh, BRSO
Kletzki, CzPO
Pletnev, RNSO  8)
...


B R U C K N E R  7 1/2

MAAZEL SOBR
Haitink CONCERGEBOUW
WAND KÖLNER RSO
KARAJAN BERLIN PHIL
Jochum BRSO/BPh
CELIBIDACHE MUNICH (3-9)
Jochum Bros. (Eugen & Georg)
Furtwangler (incomplete)
...?

M A H L E R  (14)

BERNSTEIN NEW YORK (SONY)  :)
BERNSTEIN VARIOUS (DG)  8)
SINOPOLI  PHILHARMONIA  8)
RATTLE CBSO
SVETLANOV RUSSIAN STATE SO
BOULEZ VARIOUS  :D
CHAILLY CONCERTGEBOUW
GIELEN SWR SO BADEN BADEN  ;D
Kubelik, BRSO  :)
Gergiev, LSO
MTT, SFSO  ;)
Haitink, Christmas (incomplete)
Kondrashin (incomplete)  8)
Kubelik, Audite (incomplete)   :D


S H O S T A K O V I C H (4)[/b]

BARSHAI WDR SO  :D
KITAJENKO GÜRZENICH O KÖLN
Kondrashin, Moscow PSO  8)
Haitink


S I B E L I U S  (15)

http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2009/05/survey-of-sibelius-cycles.html (http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2009/05/survey-of-sibelius-cycles.html)

DAVIS LSO
DAVIS BOSTON
DAVIS LSO LIVE
BERNSTEIN NY PHIL  8)
VÄNSKÄ LAHTI SO
SANDERLING BERLIN SO  :D
MAAZEL VIENNA PHIL  ;D
MAAZEL PITTSBURGH
ASHKENAZY PHILHARMONIA  :D
SEGERSTAM HELSINKI PHIL  :D
RATTLE CBSO
BLOMSTEDT SAN FRANCISCO  :)
SAKARI ICELAND SO  :)
BARBIROLLI HALLÉ  ???
Gibson :)
Slatkin   :-X
Berglund III ChOE  0:)


E L G A R

Barenboim  :D
Andrew Davis II
Elder  :D
Barbirolli
Boult  :)
Colin Davis  :P
Solti  :-[


Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Karl Henning on January 24, 2012, 11:58:49 AM
So no one makes the cut with Elgar, Jens?  And Solti gets a signal thumb's-down.  Interesting!
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: North Star on January 24, 2012, 12:01:04 PM
Beethoven: Immerseel
Schumann: Zinman
Brahms: Rattle
Tchaikovsky: Pletnev
Rachmaninov: Jansons
Sibelius: Neeme Järvi
Nielsen: Blomstedt EMI
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: jlaurson on January 24, 2012, 12:03:46 PM
Quote from: karlhenning on January 24, 2012, 11:58:49 AM
So no one makes the cut with Elgar, Jens?  And Solti gets a signal thumb's-down.  Interesting!

Huh? Three positive responses to Elgar sets, just not an ecstatic one... (the rest is Elgar's fault.)
And yes, if Solti were the only conductor I had heard in the Symphonies, I'd never have bothered with Elgar again.
Curiously, I kind of really dig his late Elgar recording with the perfectly unidiomatic Vienna Philharmonic.

Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: Lisztianwagner on January 24, 2012, 12:04:01 PM
Quote from: jlaurson on January 24, 2012, 11:12:02 AM
I wouldn't really want to define the smilies too much, as they'd be robbed of interpretive nuance that way... but roughly:

0:) Divine
;D Smile inducing
:D Awesome
:) Very naaaaihce!
;) I see where you're going with that
:-\ Mhewwee.
:( Nah, not really successful
::) Oh gawd. 'spose he didn't know better. Beginner's mistake.
>:( Horribilus
:o How could you!
:P It feels a little sour in my mouth
:-X I think I have to hurl.
:'( Makes me cry... why would anyone do that to this music...

Beethoven Karajan (63 presumably?), Abbado (Berlin I, presumably?)  ;D,  :)
Mahler Bernstein DG, Solti  :),  :-\
Sibelius Ashkenazy, Maazel (Vienna, presumably?),  ;D,  0:)
Brahms Karajan (early, later, or mix?)  :)
Tchaikovsky Karajan  :D
Bruckner Karajan  :D
Schumann Karajan  :-\
Nielsen Blomstedt  :D

Beethoven Actually, I've got two Karajan's sets, '63 and 70s; the Abbado is with BPO.
Sibelius Yes, Maazel & VPO.
Brahms Later

You don't seem to love Solti's Mahler and Karajan's Schumann very much, don't you? ;)
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Karl Henning on January 24, 2012, 12:08:09 PM
Quote from: jlaurson on January 24, 2012, 12:03:46 PM
Huh? Three positive responses to Elgar sets, just not an ecstatic one... (the rest is Elgar's fault.)

Oh, I mistook you.  I saw the lack of boldface as the signifier.  I tend to filter out most emoticons . . . .
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: North Star on January 24, 2012, 12:08:54 PM
Quote from: madaboutmahler on January 24, 2012, 10:35:32 AM
My collection really is rather small! Tiny compared to someones like Sarge's.
I probably won't get the EMI Mahler box as I have most of the performances in it. Great for anyone who doesn't though! Hope you are enjoying it.
I do have a Schumann set, actually I have two, the Zinman and the Sawallisch. I left quite a few sets out actually. Back with more later perhaps.

Well yes small compared to someone like Sarge, but that doesn't mean that the collection is small. And you have a lot of time to catch up.  8)
Besides, if you have most of the EMI Mahler sets performances, your Mahler collection most likely isn't too small.
I will be enjoying the Mahler in one or two weeks since only today I finally managed to edit the credit card info on Amazon.
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: madaboutmahler on January 24, 2012, 12:18:17 PM
Quote from: North Star on January 24, 2012, 12:08:54 PM
Well yes small compared to someone like Sarge, but that doesn't mean that the collection is small. And you have a lot of time to catch up.  8)
Besides, if you have most of the EMI Mahler sets performances, your Mahler collection most likely isn't too small.
I will be enjoying the Mahler in one or two weeks since only today I finally managed to edit the credit card info on Amazon."e author=madaboutmahler link=topic=19814.msg595421#msg595421 date=1327433732]
My collection really is rather small! Tiny compared to someones like Sarge

haha :) Well, the Mahler section in my collection is the largest part, closely followed by the Elgar section. :)
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: jlaurson on January 24, 2012, 12:19:08 PM
Quote from: Lisztianwagner on January 24, 2012, 12:04:01 PM
Beethoven Actually, I've got two Karajan's sets, '63 and 70s; the Abbado is with BPO.
Sibelius Yes, Maazel & VPO.
Brahms Later

You don't seem to love Solti's Mahler and Karajan's Schumann very much, don't you? ;)

Solti, Mahler, and I have a very complicated relationship. Not a good one. Although Sarge and an open mind have brought me around to crediting his Sixth with respect and keenly perked ears. It is to me what Sarge told me Szell's M6 should be. I hate, hate, hate his Sixth Eighth and don't care for much of the rest.

Karajan's Schumann is one of the few Karajan-sets where the 'Karajan' sound actually does annoy me on occasion. It's not bad... but I find it exhausting over time. Much rather listen to Barenboim when I like it bold and varnished, or Zinman when I like it zippy, or Gardiner when I want HIP, or the classic Sawallisch when I want it superbly traditional. And for "OTT" I can go to Bernstein/Sony.
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Drasko on January 24, 2012, 01:29:04 PM
I have a touch of, probably irrational, aversion to complete sets, so have very few

4 - brahms
3 - schumann, scriabin, sibelius
2 - beethoven, martinu, shostakovich, tchaikovsky
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Mirror Image on January 24, 2012, 07:52:11 PM
Continued from my last list...

Brahms - Zinman, Rattle, Bernstein (DG), Solti, Karajan, Bohm, Abbado, Dohnanyi, Muti, Harnoncourt, Barenboim, Haitink (LSO Live), C. Davis

Dvorak - Kubelik, Kertesz, Neumann, Rowicki, Pesek, Suitner

Alwyn - Hickox, Lloyd-Jones

Bax - Thomson, Handley, Lloyd-Jones

Stanford - Lloyd-Jones, Handley

Scriabin - Muti, Ashkenazy, Svetlanov

Rimsky-Korsakov - Jarvi, Svetlanov

To be continued...
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: Lisztianwagner on January 25, 2012, 02:51:42 AM
Quote from: Lisztianwagner on January 24, 2012, 09:34:13 AM
Beethoven Karajan, Abbado/BPO
Mahler Bernstein DG, Solti
Sibelius Ashkenazy, Maazel/VPO
Brahms Karajan
Tchaikovsky Karajan
Bruckner Karajan
Schumann Karajan
Nielsen Blomstedt

Quoting myself and continuing the list:

Rachmaninov Ashkenazy/RCO
Prokofiev Weller/LSO
Dvorak Kubelik/BPO
Schubert Sawallisch/Dresden Statskapelle
Elgar Solti/LPO
Shostakovich Haitink/LPO-RCO
Martinu Neumann/CPO
Scriabin Ashkenazy/DSO
Mendelssohn Karajan
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: premont on January 25, 2012, 03:50:26 AM
Symphonic music falls a bit outside my most important field of interest, nevertheless I am a devoted Beethovenian.

Recently I counted 39 Beethoven symphony sets on my shelves.
Other than that I have:
Brahms: 4
Schubert : 1
Nielsen: 5
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Karl Henning on January 25, 2012, 04:07:35 AM
Quote from: (: premont :) on January 25, 2012, 03:50:26 AM
Recently I counted 39 Beethoven symphony sets on my shelves.

Zowie!

Quote from: (: premont :)Nielsen: 5

Excellent! No wonder we get on so well! : )
Title: Re: Cyclomania
Post by: marvinbrown on January 25, 2012, 06:24:27 AM

My 2 pence, I usually collect one symphony cycle per composer. The only MULTIPLE SYMPHONY Cycles I have are (from what I can remember):

  Mahler: Bertini, Solti
  Shostakovich: Jansons, Haitink
 
  Bold indicates preference. 
   

Quote from: karlhenning on January 23, 2012, 12:36:53 PM
The OP called for symphony cycles. So we shall disallow Wagner : )

   :( this is most displeasing! 

  marvin 
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Florestan on January 25, 2012, 06:45:59 AM
Mahler: Kubelik
Brahms: Solti
Tchaikovsky: Karajan
Schubert: Harnoncourt
Schumann: Muti
Bruckner: Jochum
Sibelius: Jarvi
Prokofiev: Gergiev
Shostakovitch: Barshai
Borodin: Ashkenazy
Rimsky-Korsakov: Svetlanov
Kalinnikov: Jarvi

That's pretty much all I have as "complete symphonies".

Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: madaboutmahler on January 25, 2012, 08:47:48 AM
Quote from: (: premont :) on January 25, 2012, 03:50:26 AM
Symphonic music falls a bit outside my most important field of interest, nevertheless I am a devoted Beethovenian.

Recently I counted 39 Beethoven symphony sets on my shelves.
Other than that I have:
Brahms: 4
Schubert : 1
Nielsen: 5

:o Gosh... congratulations!

Quote from: Mirror Image on January 24, 2012, 07:52:11 PM
Continued from my last list...

Brahms - Zinman, Rattle, Bernstein (DG), Solti, Karajan, Bohm, Abbado, Dohnanyi, Muti, Harnoncourt, Barenboim, Haitink (LSO Live), C. Davis


You have so many Brahms cycles, John! Barely ever see Brahms come up in your listening activity though!
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Mirror Image on January 25, 2012, 09:33:09 AM
Quote from: madaboutmahler on January 25, 2012, 08:47:48 AM

You have so many Brahms cycles, John! Barely ever see Brahms come up in your listening activity though!

I don't listen to Brahms much. I do like his symphonies a lot, but I'm more interested in other composers. I did go through a little Brahms phase a year or so ago, but that quickly faded out.
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Lisztianwagner on January 25, 2012, 09:45:32 AM
Quote from: (: premont :) on January 25, 2012, 03:50:26 AM
Symphonic music falls a bit outside my most important field of interest, nevertheless I am a devoted Beethovenian.

Recently I counted 39 Beethoven symphony sets on my shelves.

Wow, that's really great! :o
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Florestan on January 25, 2012, 09:49:47 AM
Quote from: (: premont :) on January 25, 2012, 03:50:26 AM
Recently I counted 39 Beethoven symphony sets on my shelves.

Quote from: madaboutmahler on January 25, 2012, 08:47:48 AM
:o Gosh... congratulations!

Quote from: Lisztianwagner on January 25, 2012, 09:45:32 AM
Wow, that's really great! :o

Great but... Suppose you are blindfolded. Could you tell (a) the difference between the Eroica from set 12 and the Eroica from set 31 and (b) who conducts what orchestra on them?  ;D
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: madaboutmahler on January 25, 2012, 09:57:58 AM
Quote from: Florestan on January 25, 2012, 09:49:47 AM
Great but... Suppose you are blindfolded. Could you tell (a) the difference between the Eroica from set 12 and the Eroica from set 31 and (b) who conducts what orchestra on them?  ;D

This sounds like a fun game actually! :)
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: DavidW on January 25, 2012, 10:00:02 AM
Maybe we need to resurrect that clips game for that purpose! :D
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: madaboutmahler on January 25, 2012, 10:04:42 AM
Quote from: DavidW on January 25, 2012, 10:00:02 AM
Maybe we need to resurrect that clips game for that purpose! :D

Sounds like a good idea! Who's up for it? ;D
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: premont on January 25, 2012, 11:36:43 AM
Quote from: Florestan on January 25, 2012, 09:49:47 AM
Could you tell (a) the difference between the Eroica from set 12 and the Eroica from set 31 and (b) who conducts what orchestra on them?  ;D

I will probably not always be able to tell the names of the performers. Add to this, that I haven´t had the time to listen to all of these recordings yet. And it is interesting to be able always to find a recording I haven´t heard, when I want to listen to a Beethoven symphony. And actually I do not find that one must be completely aware of the identity of the performers to enjoy the interpretation.
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Karl Henning on January 25, 2012, 11:38:48 AM
Quote from: (: premont :) on January 25, 2012, 11:36:43 AM
I will probably not always be able to tell the name of the performers. Add to this, that I haven´t had the time to listen to all of these recordings yet.

But actually I do not find that one must be completely aware of the identity of the performers to enjoy the interpretation.

But, to be able to return to an interpretation which one has found particularly enjoyable . . . .
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: premont on January 25, 2012, 11:45:18 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on January 25, 2012, 11:38:48 AM
But, to be able to return to an interpretation which one has found particularly enjoyable . . . .

This is of course what I most often do, and this explains to some degree, why I still have unlistened-to Beethoven symphonies on my shelves.
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Conor71 on January 25, 2012, 12:39:22 PM
Sibelius (3): Vanska, Berglund, Barbirolli
Beethoven (3): Karajan 63, Gardiner, Klemperer
Schumann (3): Gardiner, Chailly, Mehta
Shostakovich (3): Barshai, Jansons, Haitink
Bruckner (2): Chailly, Jochum EMI
Brahms (2): Jochum DG, Karajan
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: springrite on January 25, 2012, 12:41:58 PM
Quote from: Mirror Image on January 24, 2012, 07:52:11 PM
To be continued...

These three words should end most of your purchase/collection-related posts!
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: jwinter on January 25, 2012, 01:05:14 PM
Well phooey, premont, now I'm going to have to go home and count up my Beethoven sets tonight... ;D

I know I had at least 30 when I counted them last, but that was probably 5 years ago.  I haven't bought much in that vein lately, though, so you may still be ahead.  I've got Brahms, Mahler, and Bruckner well into the double-digits too (and don't get me started on LvB piano sonatas, but that's another thread)... 

It's not healthy, I know, but it's better than spending it on heroin or horse races I suppose, and my 8 year old daughter likes Mahler & Prokofiev, so I must be doing something right!  8) Not many "vices" can give you and your family a lifetime of listening pleasure.

Give me a little time to tally things up.  What's the grand prize, Karl?  A life-size dancing banana?
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Sergeant Rock on January 25, 2012, 01:09:20 PM
Quote from: jwinter on January 25, 2012, 01:05:14 PM
Well phooey, premont, now I'm going to have to go home and count up my Beethoven sets tonight... ;D

Nice to see that avatar again. It's been almost three months since your last appearance! Don't be such a stranger.

Sarge
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: madaboutmahler on January 25, 2012, 01:16:41 PM
Here are all (I think...) the complete symphony boxsets I own. Some of my dad's are here as well. ;) Mostly mine.

Beethoven - Haitink LSO, Karajan 1963, Rattle, Zinman, Goodman.
Bruckner - Barenboim
Dvorak - Pesek
Elgar - Solti, Elder, Boult EMI, Boult Lyrita, Barbirolli, C.Davis LSO, A.Davis BBCSO, Elgar Naxos Historical, Naxos set (Hurst for no.1, Downes for no.2), Handley. (think that's it...)
Mahler - Solti, Rattle, Bernstein DG, Bernstein Sony, Sinopoli, Bertini
Martinu - Jarvi
Nielsen - both Blomstedt
Prokofiev - Jarvi
Rachmaninov - Ashkenazy
Roussel - Dutoit
Schubert - Harnoncourt
Schumann - Sawallisch, Zinman
Taneyev - T.Sanderling (on Naxos)
Tchaikovsky - Litton. (and for 4-6, Karajan, Mravinsky, Pappano)
Vaughan Williams - Haitink

Ones I particularly love are highlighted.

Collection still growing... and quite a few of these I have not had the chance to listen to in full yet!
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Mirror Image on January 25, 2012, 01:17:18 PM
Quote from: springrite on January 25, 2012, 12:41:58 PM
These three words should end most of your purchase/collection-related posts!

:P That's so true! HA!
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: madaboutmahler on January 25, 2012, 01:18:04 PM
Quote from: jwinter on January 25, 2012, 01:05:14 PM
my 8 year old daughter likes Mahler & Prokofiev, so I must be doing something right!  8)

:)
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: springrite on January 25, 2012, 01:20:07 PM
I think Beethoven (Zinman, Karajan, not-quite-complete Furtwangler) and Brahms (Juchum, Furtwangler) are the only two composers that I have more than one complete set. I am such a junior collector, as you know...
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: mc ukrneal on January 25, 2012, 01:21:48 PM
Quote from: madaboutmahler on January 25, 2012, 01:16:41 PM
Collection still growing... and quite a few of these I have not had the chance to listen to in full yet!
Is there a poster who has at least a few multiple set who would NOT say this?!?  :)
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Marc on January 25, 2012, 01:28:16 PM
Quote from: jwinter on January 25, 2012, 01:05:14 PM
[....]
It's not healthy, I know, but it's better than spending it on heroin or horse races I suppose [....]

Spending some money on horse races is fun!
Especially if you back the winner. :P

Like I did once, in 2009:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mon_Mome

And you know what?
I spent the winnings on .... compact discs IIRC .... it's all gone. :'(

Ain't life beautiful?
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: springrite on January 25, 2012, 01:29:25 PM
Quote from: jwinter on January 25, 2012, 01:05:14 PM
... my 8 year old daughter likes Mahler & Prokofiev, so I must be doing something right!

Whenever I listen to music not through my headphone, Kimi would say: "Daddy, can you turn of this garbage and play some Beethoven or Boulez?"

Is this normal for a 3 1/2 year old???
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Marc on January 25, 2012, 01:32:35 PM
Quote from: springrite on January 25, 2012, 01:29:25 PM
Whenever I listen to music not through my headphone, Kimi would say: "Daddy, can you turn of this garbage and play some Beethoven or Boulez?"

Is this normal for a 3 1/2 year old???

What's that: normal?

Young children aren't prejudiced. I wish I'd never lost that feeling.
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: nesf on January 25, 2012, 03:37:02 PM
Quote from: Marc on January 25, 2012, 01:32:35 PM
What's that: normal?

Young children aren't prejudiced. I wish I'd never lost that feeling.

My son at 2 would enthusiastically clap along, pretend to conduct and have a good time with any classical I threw at him. At 5, he routinely tells me he hates the vast majority of the pieces I used to play for him (though he will sing the March from the Nutcracker Suite at volume if given half an opportunity). I'm seeing it begin again with my 2 year old daughter coming over and demanding classical be put on the speakers if it hasn't happened already every morning and seems happy even with relatively dissonant (for my tastes) music. She'll develop her own tastes too though and soon enough will be demanding certain pieces and telling me to turn off others.
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: chung on January 25, 2012, 07:05:07 PM
ARNOLD: Penny

BALAKIREV: Golovschin, Svetlanov '90s

BEETHOVEN: Barenboim, Bernstein '60s, Blomstedt, Cluytens, Edlinger/Halasz, Ermler/Gibault/Herbig/Leppard/Wordsworth (RPO house label), Ferencsik, Gardiner, Goodman, Harnoncourt, Hogwood, Karajan '60s, Karajan '70s, Karajan '80s, Kegel, Klemperer late '50s, Konwitschny, Krips, Leibowitz, Mackerras '90s, Masur '70s, Masur '80s-'90s, Menuhin, Muti, Nelson, Norrington, Sawallisch, Szell, Wand, Zinman

BERWALD: Goodman

BORODIN: Gunzenhauser

BRAHMS: Loughran, Rajter

BRUCH: Conlon

BRUCKNER: Jochum/Skrowaczewski (Brilliant Classics' version on license from Oehms and EMI)

DVOŘÁK: Bělohlávek/Jansons/Järvi

GLAZUNOV: Otaka/Polyansky

HAYDN: Fischer

KALINNIKOV: Kuchar

MENDELSSOHN: Abbado

MOZART: Mackerras, Pinnock

RACHMANINOV: Jansons

RIMSKY-KORSAKOV: Anichanov, Butt

SCHUBERT: Muti

SCHUMANN: Konwitschny, Levine 70s, Marriner '90s, Masur, Sawallisch, Zinman

SIBELIUS: Berglund '80s, Davis '90s

TCHAIKOVSKY: Muti

Bold means that the cycle is noticeably favoured over the other(s) that I've heard. Even after having tried out 30 cycles of Beethoven, I have no obvious favourite. Each of them has at least one symphony where its performance disappointed me at least a bit.
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: jlaurson on January 25, 2012, 11:36:18 PM
Quote from: Florestan on January 25, 2012, 09:49:47 AM
Great but... Suppose you are blindfolded. Could you tell (a) the difference between the Eroica from set 12 and the Eroica from set 31 and (b) who conducts what orchestra on them?  ;D

Speaking for myself: a.) Absolutely. b.) I doubt it. Perhaps in a couple instances that are either fresh in the memory or very unique.

We can do that, actually... let's take a quote from the Eroica, say something from the 1st movement (but not the beginning), a section ~3 minutes long (will vary, depending on performance), remove any meta-data from the file (iTunes should be able to do that), and then plunk 20 samples on a disc that I could upload on mediafire, for others to burn and listen to. Of course they could still laboriously compare with their own collection and thus 'cheat', if they wanted, but for those interested in figuring out how / whether they can distinguish orchestras/conductors, it might be fun.
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: DieNacht on January 26, 2012, 12:27:20 AM
Quote from: chung on January 25, 2012, 07:05:07 PM
ARNOLD: Penny

BALAKIREV: Golovschin, Svetlanov '90s

BEETHOVEN: Barenboim, Bernstein '60s, Blomstedt, Cluytens, Edlinger/Halasz, Ermler/Gibault/Herbig/Leppard/Wordsworth (RPO house label), Ferencsik, Gardiner, Goodman, Harnoncourt, Hogwood, Karajan '60s, Karajan '70s, Karajan '80s, Kegel, Klemperer late '50s, Konwitschny, Krips, Leibowitz, Mackerras '90s, Masur '70s, Masur '80s-'90s, Menuhin, Muti, Nelson, Norrington, Sawallisch, Szell, Wand, Zinman

BERWALD: Goodman

BORODIN: Gunzenhauser

BRAHMS: Loughran, Rajter

BRUCH: Conlon

BRUCKNER: Jochum/Skrowaczewski (Brilliant Classics' version on license from Oehms and EMI)

DVOŘÁK: Bělohlávek/Jansons/Järvi

GLAZUNOV: Otaka/Polyansky

HAYDN: Fischer

KALINNIKOV: Kuchar

MENDELSSOHN: Abbado

MOZART: Mackerras, Pinnock

RACHMANINOV: Jansons

RIMSKY-KORSAKOV: Anichanov, Butt

SCHUBERT: Muti

SCHUMANN: Konwitschny, Levine 70s, Marriner '90s, Masur, Sawallisch, Zinman

SIBELIUS: Berglund '80s, Davis '90s

TCHAIKOVSKY: Muti

Bold means that the cycle is noticeably favoured over the other(s) that I've heard. Even after having tried out 30 cycles of Beethoven, I have no obvious favourite. Each of them has at least one symphony where its performance disappointed me at least a bit.

Some interesting stuff here, nice to see some "historical" names also - Leibowitz in Beethoven is great, I think, brisk like Vänskä perhaps, and a good stereo sound (in the 9th some interesting details seem to be minimized in the CD transfer, they are heard better in the LP-version).

Rajter was a conductor of the old school; one never hears about his Brahms cycle. What is your general impression of that ? He also made a Franz Schmidt cycle but very late in his carreer, and the alternatives I know there of the Schmidt 4th (Mehta, Moralt) do seem more intense than Rajter ...
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: jwinter on January 26, 2012, 06:07:17 AM
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on January 25, 2012, 01:09:20 PM
Nice to see that avatar again. It's been almost three months since your last appearance! Don't be such a stranger.

Sarge

Thanks Sarge!  All is well, I've just been rather busy with work & parenting of late.  For a while I've been on a bit of a blues tangent music-wise (actually listening to Howlin Wolf as I type this).  I've never been a 100% classical guy.

Anyway, here's the list so far.  I'm only listing multiple symphony sets for a composer -- no single CDs.

I count 35 different conductors in complete sets in Beethoven, so I have to tip my hat to premont, although I do have multiple sets from a few folks.  Favorites are bolded as requested -- I tried to keep it down to a select few, otherwise there's not much point.  Favorites are also related solely to the complete sets -- for instance, Furtwangler did some outstanding Beethoven, but most of it is outside his complete set from EMI.

The details for the curious....


Beethoven 35 conductors:

Abbado BPO, Abbado Rome DVD, Barenboim, Bernstein NYPO, Bernstein VPO, Blomstedt, Bohm, Cluytens, Davis, Dohnanyi, Ferencsik, Furtwangler, Gardiner, Haitink, Harnoncourt, Hogwood, Jochum, Karajan 50s, Karajan 63, Karajan 70s, Karajan 80s, Kegel, Kempe, Klemperer, Kletzki, Krips, Masur, Monteux, Norrington, Sawallische, Scherchen, Schmidt-Isserstedt, Szell, Toscanini 39, Toscanini 50s, Vanska, Walter mono, Walter Columbia, Wand, Weingartner, Weller, Zinman


Brahms 23 conductors:

Abbado, Barenboim, Bernstein NYPO, Bernstein VPO, Bohm, Chailly, Davis, Furtwangler, Haitink, Harnoncourt, Jochum mono, Karajan 60s, Karajan 70s, Kempe, Klemperer, Marriner, Rattle, Sanderling, Solti, Stokowski, Szell, Toscanini, Walter Columbia, Wand, Weingartner


Bruckner 12 conductors:

Barenboim, Celibidache Munich, Chailly, Haitink, Jochum SD, Karajan, Maazel, Masur, Paternostro, Skrowaczewski, Tintner, Wand


Dvorak 5 conductors:

Kertesz, Kubelik, Neumann, Rowicki, Suitner,


Haydn 2 conductors:

Dorati, Fischer


Mahler 14 conductors:

Abbado, Bernstein Sony, Bernstein DG, Bernstein DVD, Bertini, Chailly, Haitink, Inbal, Kubelik, Levine (partial), Maazel VPO, Maazel NYPO, Neumann, Sinopoli, Solti, Tabakov, Tennstedt


Mendelssohn 2 conductors:

Abbado, Masur


Mozart 5 conductors:

Bohm, Ter Linden, Mackerras, Pinnock, Tate (+ Davis & Krips if you count sets of just the mature ones)


Nielsen 3 conductors:

Blomstedt, Jarvi, Schmidt


Prokofiev 3 conductors:

Gergiev, Kuchar, Ozawa


Rachmaninov 2 conductors:

Ashkenazy, Rozhdestvensky


Schubert 6 conductors:

Blomstedt, Bohm, Davis, Goodman, Karajan, Marriner


Schumann 7 conductors:

Barenboim, Bernstein VPO, Chailly, Haitink, Kubelik, Szell, Zinman


Shostakovich 3 conductors:

Barshai, Haitink, Kondrashin


Sibelius 6 conductors:

Ashkenazy, Bernstein, Blomstedt, Davis, Maazel VPO, Segerstam


Tchaikovsky 5 conductors:

Dorati, Karajan, Markevitch, Muti, Svetlanov
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Karl Henning on January 26, 2012, 06:08:10 AM
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on January 25, 2012, 01:09:20 PM
Nice to see that avatar again. It's been almost three months since your last appearance! Don't be such a stranger.

Sarge

Heartily seconded.
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: George on January 26, 2012, 06:33:35 AM
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on January 25, 2012, 01:09:20 PM
Nice to see that avatar again. It's been almost three months since your last appearance! Don't be such a stranger.

Sarge

I strongly second this!

Hey, J!  :)
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: jwinter on January 26, 2012, 06:48:40 AM
Aw shucks  :-[ , thanks guys  :-*


It should be obvious from the post above why my Discover Card and I have stayed away of late... but I'm now pretty firmly past the "rapid acquisition phase" of classical CD collecting.  I've got plenty of music to listen to, all the major repetoire bases are covered, so now I'm enjoying what I have, and using my public library to fill in the occasional small gap via ripping to itunes -- I've even grabbed a few of those Beethoven sets that way over the years. 

Still, I do feel a little "my pile of CDs is bigger than your pile, so nyah!" by posting to this thread...  I do hope I'm not compensating...  ;D
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: DavidW on January 26, 2012, 06:52:39 AM
Quote from: springrite on January 25, 2012, 01:29:25 PM
Whenever I listen to music not through my headphone, Kimi would say: "Daddy, can you turn of this garbage and play some Beethoven or Boulez?"

Is this normal for a 3 1/2 year old???

Is she also doing calculus on her spare time and reading Proust? ;D
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: premont on January 26, 2012, 08:40:55 AM
Quote from: jwinter on January 26, 2012, 06:07:17 AM
I count 35 different conductors in complete sets in Beethoven, so I have to tip my hat to premont,

I do not look at in that way, and I think it is much more interesting to know which ones and which ones are the favorites, than to know the total count:
So here are the 43 ones I own (favorites in bold):

Gardiner
Krivine
Hogwood
van Immerseel
Goodman/Huggett
Brüggen
Norrington (EMI)
Harnoncourt
MacKerras I
MacKerras II
Zinman
Weingartner
Toscanini (NBC studio recording)
Walter I (New York)
Walter II (Columbia)
Bernstein I (New York)
Muti (Philadelphia)
Wänskä
Klemperer (EMI studio set)
Klemperer (live, Philharmonia in Vienna)
Ansermet
Schuricht
Scherchen
Leibowitz
Krips
Davis (Dresden)
Haitink (LSO live rec)
Karajan (Philharmonia 50es)
Karajan (Berlin 60es)
Karajan (Berlin 70es)
Wand (Hamburg)
Skrowaczewski
Jochum II (Concertgeb.)
Sawallisch (Concertgeb.)
Kletzki
Konwitschny
Kegel
Blomstedt
Masur I (Gewandhaus)
Cluytens
Böhm (Vienna Philh.)
Maag

Edit: Forgot to list Barenboim
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: DieNacht on January 26, 2012, 08:50:33 AM
Only have Kletzki in Beethoven´s 2nd but am considering more, the LPs are often cheaply available - the 2nd is good and he does some really funny things in the Finale ...  :)
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Xenophanes on January 26, 2012, 02:31:08 PM
I was surprised I have quite a number of sets, especially if I count those who only composed 1 symphony. I will have to get a complete set of Haydn symphonies. 

Boyce, 2, Faerber, Mallon

Mozart, 1, Pinnock

Beethoven, 4, Ansermet, Suitner, Karajan 1962, Leibowitz

Schumann, 3, Wit, Szell, Haitink

Mendelssohn, 1, Dohnanyi

Bizet, 1, Beecham

Lalo, 1, Beecham

Berwald, 1, Kamu

Weber, 1, Georgiadis

Franck, 2, Monteux, Akiyama (Can one have a "set" of a single symphony?)

Brahms, 1, Walter

Bruckner, 1, Tintner

Tchaikovsky, 1, Jansons

Mahler, 1, Chailly

Sibelius, 1, Maazel VPO

Rachmaninoff, 1, Ormandy

Elgar, 1, Downes/Hurst (on Naxos. Maybe this doesn't count as a set!)

Willson, 1, Stromberg

Weill, 1, Alsop
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Karl Henning on January 27, 2012, 03:19:12 AM
Apart from mathematically, though — a single element does not a *set* make. Right? : )
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: trung224 on January 27, 2012, 06:12:12 AM
   I am a newbie with GMG forum. I don't have so much boxset
   Beethoven: Karajan 62, Klemperer EMI, Szell, Furtwangler (several boxset from EMI, Music and Arts, Tahra), Toscanini, Bohm, Gardiner, Barenboim,Jochum, Ansermet, Abbado
   Brahms: Furtwangler (EMI, Music and Arts), Klemperer, Bruno Walter 60s, Jochum DG, Karajan 60, Szell, Giulini (EMI) Giulini( DG Vienna), Celibidache EMI, Dorati, Rattle, Sanderling.
   Mozart: only the late symphonies boxset von Bohm, Szell, Klemperer, Mackerras, Gardiner
   Haydn: not the complete boxset,
  Schubert: Bohm, Karajan, Abbado, Wand
   Schumann: Szell, Sawalisch, Gardiner, Karajan, Bernstein
   Tchaikovsky: Jansons, New Brilliant's boxset. and late symphonies from Mravinsky, Karajan, Monteux, Fricsay
   Bruckner: Jochum (DG and EMI), Karajan (DG andEMI), Celibidache,Furtwangler (not complete)
   Mahler: EMI, DG complete edition,Brilliant box, Bernstein,Kubelik.
   Sibelius: Maazel, Barbirolli, Sanderling, Sergerstam, Bernstein  Sony
   Shostakovich: Barshai, Mravinsky (Meloyia, not complete)
   Dvorak: Kerstesz, Kubelik
   Mendelssohn: Flor, Karajan
   Rachmaninov: Jansons
   Borodin: Rozhdestvensky
   Nielsen: Blomstedt (EMI)
   Martinu: Jaarvi
   Berwald: Daugaard
   Scriabin: Muti
   
   
   
   
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: The new erato on January 27, 2012, 06:14:46 AM
Re cycles:

Can this be the Boulez cycle - boxed at last:

[asin]B004NO5HLG[/asin]

??
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Todd on January 27, 2012, 06:50:51 AM
Quote from: The new erato on January 27, 2012, 06:14:46 AMCan this be the Boulez cycle - boxed at last:



I certainly hope so.  I haven't bought a new Mahler cycle in almost two months!
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Mirror Image on January 27, 2012, 07:05:35 AM
I'm seriously surprised that DG hasn't put Boulez's Debussy and Ravel recordings in a box set yet. Seems like a logical set to me. :-\
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: The new erato on January 27, 2012, 07:41:04 AM
Quote from: Mirror Image on January 27, 2012, 07:05:35 AM
I'm seriously surprised that DG hasn't put Boulez's Debussy and Ravel recordings in a box set yet. Seems like a logical set to me. :-\
It's Debussy year. There will be no lack of Debussy sets, from Boulez as well as from others. I'm passing on the current Naxos set, waiting to evaluate what appears....I'm hoping for some good sets of the songs.
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: kishnevi on January 27, 2012, 12:08:00 PM
Quote from: The new erato on January 27, 2012, 06:14:46 AM
Re cycles:

Can this be the Boulez cycle - boxed at last:

[asin]B004NO5HLG[/asin]

??

MMMMM,  something tells me this a placeholder, and God alone knows what's on it.
Quote
Audio CD (December 31, 2020)
Number of Discs: 1
Format: Import
Label: Roc-A-Fella
ASIN: B004NO5HLG

AmazonUK has been listing it for a little while, with a price that's sort of expensive for one CD but very cheap for a whole set, if that's what it is--and no indication of what's on it.  Last time I looked ( a couple of weeks ago) not only did Presto and MDT have no listing for it, but neither did DG's own website.

However, we can assume that we won't actually need to wait almost nine years to find out.
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Cato on January 27, 2012, 12:53:59 PM
Quote from: trung224 on January 27, 2012, 06:12:12 AM
   I am a newbie with GMG forum. I don't have so much boxset

   Beethoven: Karajan 62, Klemperer EMI, Szell, Furtwangler (several boxset from EMI, Music and Arts, Tahra), Toscanini, Bohm, Gardiner, Barenboim,Jochum, Ansermet, Abbado
   Brahms: Furtwangler (EMI, Music and Arts), Klemperer, Bruno Walter 60s, Jochum DG, Karajan 60, Szell, Giulini (EMI) Giulini( DG Vienna), Celibidache EMI, Dorati, Rattle, Sanderling.
  Schubert: Bohm, Karajan, Abbado, Wand
   Schumann: Szell, Sawalisch, Gardiner, Karajan, Bernstein
   Tchaikovsky: Jansons, New Brilliant's boxset. and late symphonies from Mravinsky, Karajan, Monteux, Fricsay
   Bruckner: Jochum (DG and EMI), Karajan (DG andEMI), Celibidache,Furtwangler (not complete)
   Mahler: EMI, DG complete edition,Brilliant box, Bernstein,Kubelik.
   Sibelius: Maazel, Barbirolli, Sanderling, Sergerstam, Bernstein  Sony
   Dvorak: Kerstesz, Kubelik
 


Greetings!

Which box sets - per composer - do you prefer the most?

Hören Sie, z.B. am liebsten Sibelius/Segerstam oder Sibelius/Maazel oder...?
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: trung224 on January 28, 2012, 06:05:13 AM
 With  one composer I always really like 3-4 box sets, because i like the extreme interpretation and sound. For example, I love Karajan, Jochum, Furtwaengler and Celibidache box but I hate the so so interpretation of Solti or Barenboim (early with CSO).
   With Beethoven, I love the box sets from Karajan 60, Klemperer, Furtwangler (Music and Arts), Szell.
  With Brahms, my preference is Giulini (Vienna), Furtwangler (Music and Arts), and sometimes Celibidache (EMI)
  With Tchaikovsky 4-6 , I prefer Mravinsky and Monteux
   
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Xenophanes on January 29, 2012, 04:16:22 PM
Quote from: karlhenning on January 27, 2012, 03:19:12 AM
Apart from mathematically, though — a single element does not a *set* make. Right? : )

That's a matter of definition and usage. But I was a little tongue in cheek there, as I like to point out that there are ambiguities at the fringes of classification schemes, which Aristotle pointed out long ago.

Some of my sets are not in a single box, either, but on several separate records or CDs or LPs with the same performers, notably the Beethoven symphonies with Ansermet, which I have complete both on LPs and CDs, and Leibowitz, which takes several CDs. Also, the Berwald and Schuman Symphonies on Naxos are on separate CDs. Then I slipped in the Naxos Elgar Symphonies on 2 separate CDs with two different conductors but the same orchestra.
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Karl Henning on January 29, 2012, 04:27:56 PM
Quote from: Xenophanes on January 29, 2012, 04:16:22 PM
That's a matter of definition and usage. But I was a little tongue in cheek there, as I like to point out that there are ambiguities at the fringes of classification schemes, which Aristotle pointed out long ago.

Very good.
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: eyeresist on January 29, 2012, 05:22:36 PM
Quote from: chung on January 25, 2012, 07:05:07 PMBALAKIREV: Golovschin, Svetlanov '90s

RIMSKY-KORSAKOV: Anichanov, Butt
Interesting. Golovschin was actually my introduction to Rachmaninov (reissue on Point Classics). I must return to them again, particularly as the Ashkenazy set has lost its lustre for me (Prev and Svet are in my sights for this).

I wasn't aware of a Rimsky cycle by Anichanov, must look out for it.

Quote from: Mirror Image on January 24, 2012, 07:52:11 PM
Rimsky-Korsakov - Jarvi, Svetlanov
If you've a spare couple of dollars, you should try Kitajenko on Chandos. He is my favourite in 1, and his Antar is fine. The "extras" are less well played, but handy I suppose if you haven't collected them.
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: MishaK on January 31, 2012, 12:24:07 PM
I'm not much of a cycle collector. Here's what I have. Favorites indicates with asterisk.

Beethoven: Karajan '63, Barenboim*, Toscanini (vinyl), Solti II, Cluytens, Furtwängler, Haitink/LSO, partial cycles by Schuricht, Kubelik, and Antonini*.

Berlioz: Davis

Brahms: Abbado I* (vinyl) & II (CD), Barenboim*, Dohnanyi I*, Karajan 70s, Levine I, Solti, Rattle, Furtwängler, Toscanini, Haitink/BSO, van Beinum, Jochum, Suitner, Wand*.

Bruckner: Barenboim I* (vinyl & CD) & II, Haitink, Wand*. Thinking of adding Inbal and Skrowaczewski.

Debussy: Martinon.

Dvorak: Kubelik.

Haydn: partial cycles by Dorati and Kuijken*.

Mahler: Kubelik*, Solti, DG's complete Mahler anniversary edition.

Martucci: Avalos.

Mendelssohn: Karajan.

Schmidt: N. Järvi.

Schumann: Barenboim I & II*, Haitink, Kubelik/BPO.

Scriabin: Muti.

Shostakovich: Barshai.

Sibelius: Davis II.

Strauss: Kempe

Tchaikovsky: Muti.

Vaughan Williams: Boult I*, Haitink.

Webern: Boulez.

I think that's it.
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Karl Henning on March 20, 2012, 12:05:51 PM
Quote from: karlhenning on January 23, 2012, 09:48:42 AM
Whose complete symphony cycles do you have the most of, and how many?

I'm definitely a marginal player here, but I'll start off:

Shostakovich, 3: Maksim Dmitriyevich; Kondrashin; Haitink

Vaughan Williams, 3: Haitink; Handley; Thomson

Prokofiev, 3: Ozawa; Martinon; Järvi

Sibelius, 4: Maazel/Wiener; Blomstedt/SFSO; Berglund/Helsinki; Lenny/NY Phil

Nielsen, 3: Blomstedt/SFSO; Thomson; Schmidt

Lord 'a' mercy, but I'm going to make it five Sibelius cycles, as I found the 5-CD Pittsburgh Symphony box for $17 including shipping . . . .
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Scion7 on March 20, 2012, 01:33:50 PM
BEETHOVEN - The Symphonies - Gardiner, Symphonie Revolutionnaire et Romantique  5XCD
                   - The Symphonies - Bohm, Vienna Philharmonic  LP box
                   - The Symphonies - von Karajan, BPO  LP box (1960's)

SCHUBERT - The Symphonies - Bruggen, Orchestra of the 18th Century 4XCD

BORODIN - Complete Orchstral Music - Tjeknavorian, National Philharmonic Orchestra  LP box

those are the only complete ones I have
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: classicalgeek on March 22, 2012, 01:19:07 PM
Here my major symphony cycles - nearly all in digital format, from CDs ripped and sold, or downloads from a variety ;) of sources.  Obviously I haven't listened to every symphony from every cycle, but favorites from what I have heard are in blue.

EDIT: The asterisks indicate 'near-cycles' - I couldn't not include Bruckner/Celibidache or Mahler/Levine, among others!

Bax [3]: Handley, Lloyd-Jones, Thomson

Beethoven [59]: Abbado I/Berlin PO, Abbado II/Vienna PO, Ansermet, Asahina, Barenboim, Bernstein I/NY Phil, Bernstein II/Vienna PO, Blomstedt, Böhm, Cluytens, Colin Davis, Dohnanyi, Furtwängler, Gardiner,*Giulini/La Scala, Goodman/Huggett, Haitink II/Concertgebouw, Haitink III/London SO, Harnoncourt, Herreweghe, Hogwood, Immerseel, Jochum I [DG], Jochum III/Concertgebouw [Philips], Karajan I/Philharmonia 1950s, Karajan II/Berlin PO 1960s, Karajan III/Berlin PO 1970s, Karajan IV/Berlin PO 1980s, Kegel, Klemperer, Kletzki, Konwitschny, Krips, Kubelik, Leibowitz, Maazel, Mackerras I/Liverpool, Mackerras II/Scottish CO, Mengelberg, Norrington I/London Classical Players, Norrington II/Stuttgart, Ormandy, Pletnev, Rattle, Royal Philharmonic/various conductors, Sawallisch, Scherchen, Schuricht, Solti I/Chicago 1970s, Steinberg, Szell, Toscanini I/1939, Toscanini II/1949-1952, Tremblay, Vänskä, Walter II/Columbia Symphony, Wand, Weingartner, Weller, Zinman

Brahms [37]: Abbado, Barenboim, Bernstein I/NYPO, Bernstein II/Vienna PO, Böhm, Boult II/1970s, Celibidache/Munich, d'Avalos, Dohnanyi I/Cleveland, Furtwägler, Gardiner, Giulini/Philharmonia 1960s, Haitink I/Concertgebouw, Haitink II/London SO, Harnoncourt, Jochum I [DG], Kertesz, Klemperer, Levine I/Chicago, Mackerras, Masur, Muti, Rattle, Rickenbacher, K. Sanderling I/Dresden, K. Sanderling II/Berlin SO, Sawallisch I/Vienna SO, Schmidt-Isserstedt, Solti, Svetlanov, Szell, Toscanini I/NBC Symphony, Toscanini II/Philharmonia, van Beinum, Walter I/NY Phil, Walter II/Columbia Symphony, Wand

Bruckner [16½]: Asahina I/various orchestras, Asahina II/Osaka, Barenboim II/Berlin, *Celibidache/Munich, Chailly, Haitink, Inbal, Jochum I [DG], Jochum II/Dresden [EMI], Karajan, Maazel, Masur, Paternostro, Skrowaczewski, Solti, Tintner, Wand/Cologne Radio

Dvorak [8]: Anguelov, Andrew Davis, Järvi, Kertesz, Kubelik, Neumann II/1980s, Rowicki, Suitner

Elgar [10]: Barbirolli, Barenboim, Andrew Davis, Colin Davis, Elder, Handley, Menuhin, Sinaisky/BBC Phil (from radio broadcasts), Sinopoli, Slatkin

Haydn [2]: Dorati, Fischer

Mahler [23½]: Abbado, Abravanel, Bernstein I [Sony], Bernstein II [DG], Bertini, Boulez, Chailly, de Waart, Haitink, Inbal, Kubelik [DG], *Kubelik [Audite], *Levine, Maazel I/Vienna PO, Maazel II/Bavarian Radio (from radio broadcasts), Neumann, Ozawa, Rattle, Sinopoli, Solti, Svetlanov, Tabakov, Tennstedt, Tilson Thomas

Martinu [3]: Järvi, Neumann, Thomson

Mendelssohn [6]: Abbado, Ashkenazy, Flor, Karajan, Masur, Sawallisch

Mozart [8]: Arigoni, Böhm, Hogwood, Leinsdorf, Mackerras, Marriner, Pinnock, Tate

Nielsen [6]: Berglund, Blomstedt I/Danish Radio, Blomstedt II/San Francisco, Kuchar, Schmidt, Schonwandt

Prokofiev [6]: Gergiev, Järvi, Martinon, Ozawa, Rostropovich, Weller

Rachmaninov [13]: Ashkenazy I/Concertgebouw, Ashkenazy II/Sydney, de Waart, Gergiev/London (from radio broadcasts), Jansons, Maazel, Ormandy, Otaka, Previn, K. Sanderling, Slatkin, Svetlanov I (from LP transcriptions), Svetlanov II [Canyon Classics]

Schubert [13]: Abbado, Blomstedt, Brüggen, Goodman, Harnoncourt, Karajan, Kertesz, Maag, Marriner, Menuhin [EMI], Muti, Suitner, Wand

Schumann [24]: Barenboim II/Berlin, Bernstein II/Vienna PO, Chailly, Dohnanyi, Gardiner, Haitink, Herreweghe, Karajan, Konwitschny, Kubelik I/Berlin PO, Kubelik II/Bavarian Radio, Levine I/Philadelphia, Marriner, Masur, Mehta, Muti II/Vienna PO, Rozhdestvensky, Sawallisch I/Dresden, Sinopoli, Solti, Szell, Vonk, Zinman I/Baltimore, Zinman II/Zurich

Scriabin [5]: Ashkenazy, Golovanov, Inbal, Muti, Svetlanov

Shostakovich [11]: Barshai, Haitink, Inbal, Jansons, Järvi [Chandos and DG], Kitajenko, Kondrashin, Rostropovich, Rozhdestvensky, Maxim Shostakovich, Slovak

Sibelius [19]: Ashkenazy I/Philharmonia, Barbirolli, Berglund II/Helsinki, Bernstein, Blomstedt, Colin Davis I/Boston, Colin Davis II/London [RCA], Collins, Gibson, Järvi II/Gothenburg, Maazel I/Vienna PO, Maazel II/Pittsburgh, Oramo, Rattle, Rozhdestvensky, Sakari, K. Sanderling, Saraste, Watanabe

Tchaikovsky [18]: Abbado, Abravanel, Bernstein, Caetani, Dorati, Haitink, Jansons, Karajan, Maazel, Marriner, Masur, Muti, Noseda (from radio broadcasts), Pletnev, Rostropovich, Rozhdestvensky, Svetlanov [Canyon Classics], Temirkanov

Vaughan Williams [5]: Boult II [EMI], Haitink, Handley, Previn, Slatkin

I also have a bunch of other cycles with just one complete commercial recording: Atterberg, Malipiero, Milhaud, Moyzes, Parry, Stanford, Villa-Lobos, Wellesz, and so on...
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: madaboutmahler on March 22, 2012, 01:22:37 PM
WOW  :o
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Papy Oli on March 22, 2012, 01:24:46 PM
and it's only the "Major" ones....  ;D
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Lisztianwagner on March 22, 2012, 01:27:04 PM
Quite right, wow! :o ;D
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: classicalgeek on March 22, 2012, 01:38:43 PM
Quote from: Papy Oli on March 22, 2012, 01:24:46 PM
and it's only the "Major" ones....  ;D

Well, it's hard to know the exact cutoff point for 'major' - I went with cycles for which I had three or more intégrales, save for Haydn.  And I do have the Russell Davies Haydn cycle in the digital backlog, but I haven't read great things about it, so I'm not in a hurry to fast-track (i.e. enter it in the spreadsheet and tag it) it into the official catalog.

I'd also feel like this was more to boast about 8) if I had these all in CD form, which would cost a not-so-small fortune, of course. 

But, as I always say, quantity over quality... oh, wait... no, that's right ;D
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Mirror Image on March 22, 2012, 01:40:58 PM
Wow, impressive list, classicalgeek. You give me and Harry a run for our money. :) Perhaps a fair question would which cycles do you actually own the CDs of? As a collector, digital downloads are unacceptable for me.
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: classicalgeek on March 22, 2012, 02:07:58 PM
Quote from: Mirror Image on March 22, 2012, 01:40:58 PM
Wow, impressive list, classicalgeek. You give me and Harry a run for our money. :) Perhaps a fair question would which cycles do you actually own the CDs of? As a collector, digital downloads are unacceptable for me.

Heh, well, unfortunately, the answer to that question is 'very few' :(  I agree, it would be much more impressive to have the actual physical media!  So I don't really give you and Harry a run for your money :) - I'd love, love, LOVE to have a CD collection like many of the people here (I saw on another thread that Harry has 24,000+ :o - that's my fantasy come true!)  I've looked over the pictures on the 'What does your collection look like and how do you organize it?' thread with a mix of awe and jealousy...

Off the top of my head (and I'm sure there are a few more), here are the ones I have on actual CD (my CD collection numbers fewer than 800): Beethoven and Schumann/Konwitschny (from the Berlin Classics box), Beethoven/Bernstein/NY Phil, Brahms/Mackerras, Bruckner/Masur, Bruckner/Paternostro, Prokofiev/Rostropovich, Schubert/Suitner, Schumann/Barenboim, Sibelius/Watanabe, Tchaikovsky/Marriner, Tchaikovsky/Temirkanov.  And there are many more that I once had on CD, but ripped to digital and later sold the discs.

So not a lot, but I'm glad to have the music digitally all the same!
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Mirror Image on March 22, 2012, 02:19:33 PM
Quote from: classicalgeek on March 22, 2012, 02:07:58 PM
Heh, well, unfortunately, the answer to that question is 'very few' :(  I agree, it would be much more impressive to have the actual physical media!  So I don't really give you and Harry a run for your money :) - I'd love, love, LOVE to have a CD collection like many of the people here (I saw on another thread that Harry has 24,000+ :o - that's my fantasy come true!)  I've looked over the pictures on the 'What does your collection look like and how do you organize it?' thread with a mix of awe and jealousy...

Off the top of my head (and I'm sure there are a few more), here are the ones I have on actual CD (my CD collection numbers fewer than 800): Beethoven and Schumann/Konwitschny (from the Berlin Classics box), Beethoven/Bernstein/NY Phil, Brahms/Mackerras, Bruckner/Masur, Bruckner/Paternostro, Prokofiev/Rostropovich, Schubert/Suitner, Schumann/Barenboim, Sibelius/Watanabe, Tchaikovsky/Marriner, Tchaikovsky/Temirkanov.

So not a lot, but I'm glad to have the music digitally all the same!

I don't own as much as Harry :D, but I've probably amassed around 6,000, if I want to give a conservative guess, classical recordings within a three or four year period. My Dad has quite a large collection too, so I'm not even combining ours because he likes and collects many composers I do not. I will say that my collection is heavy on 19th and 20th Centuries. I don't listen or particularly care for earlier Classical periods, though I do have a pretty good collection of Vivaldi recordings that may surprise people here. I even own a Mozart symphony cycle, which even surprises me! :) Anyway, yeah, there's nothing like holding a CD booklet in your hands and looking at the artwork and listening to the CD through a stereo system. I'm certainly not against digital music files as I do a lot of listening on my iPods. I've ripped a lot of CDs to them, so I would dishonest to say I don't enjoy it. It's certainly more convenient then trying to hunt for the recording! 8)
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: mszczuj on March 22, 2012, 02:55:21 PM
Quote from: classicalgeek on March 22, 2012, 01:19:07 PM
endless list

Wow! is my second thought
The first is that you miss Ter Linden in Mozart.


Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: classicalgeek on March 22, 2012, 03:26:05 PM
Quote from: mszczuj on March 22, 2012, 02:55:21 PM
Wow! is my second thought
The first is that you miss Ter Linden in Mozart.

Not to worry, the Brilliant Classics Mozart box (in digital form), which contains ter Linden's cycle, is in the backlog! :D
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Karl Henning on March 22, 2012, 04:11:51 PM
Again, my personal caveat:

Quote from: karlhenning on January 23, 2012, 09:48:42 AM
I'm definitely a marginal player here . . . .

But an adjustment wants making:

Prokofiev, 3: 4: Ozawa; Rozhdestvensky; Martinon; Järvi

I still probably prefer Ozawa, but I am certainly enjoying making the acquaintance of this Rozhdestvensky cycle, which I feel certain pulls ahead of Martinon.
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: classicalgeek on March 22, 2012, 04:29:33 PM
Quote from: karlhenning on March 22, 2012, 04:11:51 PM

Prokofiev, 3: 4: Ozawa; Rozhdestvensky; Martinon; Järvi

I still probably prefer Ozawa, but I am certainly enjoying making the acquaintance of this Rozhdestvensky cycle, which I feel certain pulls ahead of Martinon.[/font]

I remember liking Ozawa in the 6th (an underrated work in my opinion), not sure about the others.  Järvi is probably my favorite overall, actually, though I don't care for his First.  I don't have the Rozhdestvensky, though it seems to be well-regarded.  The one I'm really curious about is Kosler/Czech Philharmonic - it's nearly impossible to find, CD or digital!  Has anyone here heard it?  (I might check if there's a Prokofiev thread going...)
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: eyeresist on March 22, 2012, 05:48:41 PM
Quote from: classicalgeek on March 22, 2012, 04:29:33 PMThe one I'm really curious about is Kosler/Czech Philharmonic - it's nearly impossible to find, CD or digital!  Has anyone here heard it?  (I might check if there's a Prokofiev thread going...)
I mentioned the Kosler cycle in the Prok thread a couple of weeks ago. Yes, it does seem to be MIA. I hope it's not one of those sets that goes extinct completely. There aren't enough existing cycles for that to happen!

I'm afraid I disagreed with most of your choices for the cycles, but that's okay. I will mention Pesek's Dvorak cycle on Virgin as one I think you might enjoy. It comes with a lot of tasty extras too.
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Karl Henning on March 22, 2012, 06:08:15 PM
Quote from: eyeresist on March 22, 2012, 05:48:41 PM
I mentioned the Kosler cycle in the Prok thread a couple of weeks ago.

So you did, and we all vomited. I remember distinctly.
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Mirror Image on March 22, 2012, 06:11:36 PM
Quote from: karlhenning on March 22, 2012, 06:08:15 PM
and we all vomited

Hey! That's my line! :D
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: TheGSMoeller on March 22, 2012, 06:18:17 PM
Gergiev...give him a chance.   :(


Otherwise I choose Ozawa for a complete set.
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: eyeresist on March 22, 2012, 06:39:25 PM
Quote from: karlhenning on March 22, 2012, 06:08:15 PMSo you did, and we all vomited. I remember distinctly.

But my post was flawless! I defy you to point to any flaw in that post.
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: classicalgeek on March 22, 2012, 08:09:17 PM
Quote from: TheGSMoeller on March 22, 2012, 06:18:17 PM
Gergiev...give him a chance.   :(

He's one I haven't warmed up to yet, not just in Prokofiev.  I find him a bit... mannered, I suppose.  Though his breakneck finale of the Prokofiev First is pretty exciting!  His Shostakovich isn't bad either, come to think of it...

Quote from: karlhenning on March 22, 2012, 06:08:15 PM
...we all vomited...
I save my vomiting for the conversations that go as follows:
Random person (could be a co-worker, or someone I'm meeting at a social gathering): "You listen to classical music?  Me too - I just love [Andrea Boccelli/Josh Groban/Il Divo].  Don't you?" ???
Me: "I'm not really in to that style. My favorite composer is probably Mahler."
Them: "Who?"  >:(

Anyhoo... I'm getting off topic here - maybe this is one for the 'Stereotypes' thread.  But either way, it's pretty vomit-inducing...
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: eyeresist on March 22, 2012, 08:22:48 PM
Quote from: classicalgeek on March 22, 2012, 08:09:17 PMHe's one I haven't warmed up to yet, not just in Prokofiev.  I find him a bit... mannered, I suppose.  Though his breakneck finale of the Prokofiev First is pretty exciting!  His Shostakovich isn't bad either, come to think of it...

There are a number of conductors I dislike - Gergiev is one for whom, if we criticise him, we're less likely to be lambasted by the cognoscenti. Myself, I think he bullies the music. I picture him with a heavy cudgel in his hand, bashing the music to drive it forward. :P
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: TheGSMoeller on March 22, 2012, 08:47:52 PM
Quote from: eyeresist on March 22, 2012, 08:22:48 PM
There are a number of conductors I dislike - Gergiev is one for whom, if we criticise him, we're less likely to be lambasted by the cognoscenti. Myself, I think he bullies the music. I picture him with a heavy cudgel in his hand, bashing the music to drive it forward. :P

I find that drive successful in some pieces, not so much in others.
Perhaps it's more of the LSO's playing that I endorse over Gergiev. But I still think it's a solid Prokofiev set, certainly wouldn't praise it as the best set, and there are many individual symphony discs that are of higher caliber.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_nFAGnx0hN1U/TLugTdMz0YI/AAAAAAAABq4/MPM2ed_6y38/s1600/Valery+Gergiev.jpeg)

"Bring me my cudgel. It's time to whip this Andante into shape."
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Mirror Image on March 22, 2012, 08:55:50 PM
I find that Gergiev's earlier work (mostly with the Kirov Orchestra) to be some of his best on record. I have been very disappointed with his LSO Live and Mariinsky recordings, although his performance of Shostakovich's The Nose should get a special mention, but other than this, I think Gergiev's problem lies with his own conducting schedule. He's a busy guy that yields mediocre results. What this tells me is he doesn't spend enough time rehearsing and getting to know the music he's conducting. He just sort of blasts his way through the music with no kind of direction or attention to the deeper, emotional aspects of the music.
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Karl Henning on March 23, 2012, 05:39:43 AM
Quote from: classicalgeek on March 22, 2012, 01:19:07 PM
Here my major symphony cycles - nearly all in digital format, from CDs ripped and sold, or downloads from a variety ;) of sources[....]

Dude, you keep the mania in Cyclomania. Thanks for coming aboard!
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: classicalgeek on March 23, 2012, 09:57:53 AM
Quote from: eyeresist on March 22, 2012, 05:48:41 PM
I'm afraid I disagreed with most of your choices for the cycles, but that's okay.

That's the beauty of life, isn't it?  No two people, and no two tastes in music, are exactly alike. :)

Quote from: eyeresist on March 22, 2012, 05:48:41 PM
I will mention Pesek's Dvorak cycle on Virgin as one I think you might enjoy. It comes with a lot of tasty extras too.
Yes - I've been after that one for a while!  I once had the single CD with Symphony no. 2 and 'My Home', which I ripped and sold, but I do remember enjoying it.  Eventually, I'll get a hold of the complete cycle.

There's actually a Dvorak cycle that, similar to Kosler's Prokofiev, intrigues me largely by being so elusive: Zdenek Macal's with the Milwaukee Symphony on Koss Classics.  I don't even know if the label exists anymore!  There's no box available, only individual discs on the secondhand market, and many of them are quite pricey; no sign of the cycle in the classical download world, either.  Anyone here familiar with it?
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: classicalgeek on March 23, 2012, 10:04:45 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on March 23, 2012, 05:39:43 AM
Dude, you keep the mania in Cyclomania. Thanks for coming aboard!

Courtesy of Dictionary.com:
"Mania (noun): excessive excitement or enthusiasm; craze."

Yeah, I'd say that defines my relationship with collecting classical recordings - and not just cycles!

I suspect I'm not alone here in that regard  ;D
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: springrite on March 23, 2012, 10:12:12 AM
Quote from: classicalgeek on March 23, 2012, 10:04:45 AM


Yeah, I'd say that defines my relationship with collecting classical recordings - and not just cycles!



Not to mention making your own cycles!
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: eyeresist on March 24, 2012, 10:46:56 PM
Quote from: classicalgeek on March 23, 2012, 09:57:53 AMThere's actually a Dvorak cycle that, similar to Kosler's Prokofiev, intrigues me largely by being so elusive: Zdenek Macal's with the Milwaukee Symphony on Koss Classics.  I don't even know if the label exists anymore!  There's no box available, only individual discs on the secondhand market, and many of them are quite pricey; no sign of the cycle in the classical download world, either.  Anyone here familiar with it?
I've seen a couple of cheap copies of his 8th about. I didn't realise he'd done the whole cycle. From a quick look at Amazon, it looks like he's been doing a second cycle with the Czech PO on Exton.
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: classicalgeek on March 26, 2012, 10:14:26 AM
Quote from: eyeresist on March 24, 2012, 10:46:56 PM
I've seen a couple of cheap copies of his 8th about. I didn't realise he'd done the whole cycle. From a quick look at Amazon, it looks like he's been doing a second cycle with the Czech PO on Exton.

I read about the Koss cycle in some of my Fanfare magazine back issues (1990-1992), otherwise I wouldn't have known about it!  The reviews were mixed - I believe the 4th was well-received.  I've seen the Exton one around - any time you see the early Dvorak symphonies getting recorded, it's a good indication of a cycle in progress! :)  Unforturantely, Exton discs tend to be very expensive, and aren't often available for downloads...
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: mc ukrneal on March 26, 2012, 10:27:42 AM
Quote from: classicalgeek on March 26, 2012, 10:14:26 AM
I read about the Koss cycle in some of my fanfare back issues (1990-1992), otherwise I wouldn't have known about it!  The reviews were mixed - I believe the 4th was well-received.  I've seen the Exton one around - any time you see the early Dvorak symphonies getting recorded, it's a good indication of a cycle in progress! :)  Unforturantely, Exton discs tend to be very expensive, and aren't often available for downloads...
Mdt have a sale on Exton. It's not that great, but may be a bit cheaper right now.
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Sergeant Rock on March 26, 2012, 11:20:16 AM
Quote from: classicalgeek on March 26, 2012, 10:14:26 AMI've seen the Exton one around - any time you see the early Dvorak symphonies getting recorded, it's a good indication of a cycle in progress! :)  Unforturantely, Exton discs tend to be very expensive, and aren't often available for downloads...

I'd love the Macal/Czech 4 + 8  but, my god, it's 54 Euro from Amazon DE and 64 from Amazon FR  :o

Sarge
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Karl Henning on March 26, 2012, 11:31:21 AM
Oh, has paulb started  up his own proprietary label? . . .
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: mc ukrneal on March 26, 2012, 11:38:46 AM
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on March 26, 2012, 11:20:16 AM
I'd love the Macal/Czech 4 + 8  but, my god, it's 54 Euro from Amazon DE and 64 from Amazon FR  :o

Sarge
There is a used copy for just under $30 that ships from Japan at Amazon US. Don't know how much it would cost to ship to you...

EDIT: And this Japanese site (But I never used, so no idea if reliable): http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=OVCL-281# (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=OVCL-281#)
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: jlaurson on March 26, 2012, 11:47:53 AM
Quote from: mc ukrneal on March 26, 2012, 11:38:46 AM
There is a used copy for just under $30 that ships from Japan at Amazon US. Don't know how much it would cost to ship to you...

EDIT: And this Japanese site (But I never used, so no idea if reliable): http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=OVCL-281# (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=OVCL-281#)

CDJapan is very reliable.

I use(d) them here and there, because the Japanese keep everything in print... especially single discs elsewhere available only in boxes, if at all... and was always very satisfied.
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Sergeant Rock on March 26, 2012, 12:04:18 PM
Quote from: mc ukrneal on March 26, 2012, 11:38:46 AM
There is a used copy for just under $30 that ships from Japan at Amazon US. Don't know how much it would cost to ship to you...

EDIT: And this Japanese site (But I never used, so no idea if reliable): http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=OVCL-281# (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=OVCL-281#)

Quote from: jlaurson on March 26, 2012, 11:47:53 AM

Thanks to both of you.  But even with shipping by slow boat, it will still cost around 35 Euro. Too much for a single disc, even for a crazy collector like me.

Sarge
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: eyeresist on March 26, 2012, 04:20:28 PM
Quote from: mc ukrneal on March 26, 2012, 11:38:46 AMThere is a used copy for just under $30 that ships from Japan at Amazon US. Don't know how much it would cost to ship to you...

EDIT: And this Japanese site (But I never used, so no idea if reliable): http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=OVCL-281# (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=OVCL-281#)

HMV Japan also have some:
http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/search/list/?adv=1&genre=700&target=DETAIL_CLASSIC&keyword=dvorak+macal&catnum=&label=exton&x=0&y=0

Most items are part of a "Buy 3, get the discount price" deal, but yeah, they'll cost about $30 each. I note there are two different releases of the 9th - don't know if they are different performances.
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: jlaurson on March 27, 2012, 03:35:29 AM
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on March 26, 2012, 12:04:18 PM

Thanks to both of you.  But even with shipping by slow boat, it will still cost around 35 Euro. Too much for a single disc, even for a crazy collector like me.

Sarge

"So, Mrs. Rock, how would you feel about a trip to Japan for our anniversary?

And do we still have that old, enormous travel-trunk in the attic? Just wonderin'"
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Karl Henning on March 30, 2012, 05:31:36 AM
Another adjustment wants making:

Sibelius, 5: Maazel/Wiener; Blomstedt/SFSO; Berglund/Helsinki; Lenny/NY Phil; Vänskä/Lahti

. . . thanks to the ridiculously cheap digital availability of the Vänskä/Lahti set.  (And before long a sixth will come in . . . .)
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Karl Henning on April 03, 2012, 06:23:29 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on January 23, 2012, 09:48:42 AM
Whose complete symphony cycles do you have the most of, and how many?

I'm definitely a marginal player here, but I'll start off:

Shostakovich, 3: Maksim Dmitriyevich; Kondrashin; Haitink

Vaughan Williams, 3: Haitink; Handley; Thomson

Prokofiev, 4: Ozawa; Rozhdestvensky; Martinon; Järvi

Sibelius, 7: Maazel/Wiener; Blomstedt/SFSO; Berglund/Helsinki; Lenny/NY Phil; Vänskä/Lahti;  Rattle/CBSO;  Maazel/Pittsburgh

Nielsen, 3: Blomstedt/SFSO; Thomson; Schmidt

Gosh, just goes to show . . . I had forgotten (until seeing Jens's refreshed listing) that I also have Sir Simon Rattle's cycle.

And now: Maazel/Pittsburgh has landed. O DavidRoss! How ever did I find my feet on this path? . . .
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Karl Henning on April 03, 2012, 06:25:31 AM
And Lenny's Sibelius with Vienna is incomplete, or it would be 8 . . . .
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: jwinter on April 03, 2012, 11:09:11 AM
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on March 26, 2012, 12:04:18 PM
Quote from: jlaurson on March 26, 2012, 11:47:53 AM

Thanks to both of you.  But even with shipping by slow boat, it will still cost around 35 Euro. Too much for a single disc, even for a crazy collector like me.

Sarge

Not to veer off topic, but I just spent a couple of days going through and sorting my comic book collection.  About halfway through my pile of Joe Kubert Sgt. Rock covers, I had to stop and put on some Mahler.  Klemperer, of course.  :)  Strange how associations can seep into the brain...

Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: rw1883 on June 22, 2012, 07:02:17 PM
What a great thread, so I'm going to try and bring it back!  Looking at all these previous posts tells me I still have some serious holes to fill.  Here's my tally:


Alfven
Jarvi

Arnold
Penny

Atterberg
Rasilainen

Barber
Alsop

Beethoven
Blomstedt (Brilliant)
Gardiner
Kletzki
Konwitschny
Asahina (91/92 Osaka)
Abbado (DG)
Weingartner (Naxos)
Zinman
Barenboim (Warner)
Toscanini (M&A)
Leibowitz
Karajan (Memories)
Scherchen
Kempe
Tennstedt (Memories)

Brahms
Sanderling (Berlin Classics)
Svetlanov (Scribendum)
Toscanini (Testament)
Celibidache (EMI)
Bernstein (DG)
Various (Andante)

Bruckner
Chailly
Karajan
Jochum (DG)
Asahina (Victor)
Sieghart/Eichhorn/Guschlbauer
Paternostro
Tintner
Solti
Maazel
Wand (Cologne)
Skrowasczewski

Chavez
Mata

Dvorak
Suitner
Kubelik

Elgar
Barbirolli
Slatkin

Gade
Jarvi

Gerhard
Perez

Glazunov
Polyansky

Hartmann
Various (Wergo)

Holmboe
Hughes

Kalinnikov
Kuchar

Langgaard
Dausgard

Magnard
Sanderling
Ossonce

Mahler
Bernstein
Tennstedt

Miaskovsky
Svetlanov

Nielsen
Schmidt

Peterson-Berger
Jurowski

Pettersson
Combo of Bis/CPO

Prokofiev
Jarvi

Rachmaninoff
Ashkenazy

Rangstrom
Jurowski

Sallinen
Rasilainen

Schubert
Goodman

Schumann
Gardiner
Bernstein (DG)
Sawallisch (EMI)

Scriabin
Muti

Shostakovich
Kondrashin
Barshai
Rozhdestvensky

Sibelius
Maazel
Sanderling
Rozhdestvensky

Simpson
Handley

Sumera
Jarvi

Tchaikovsky
Svetlanov (Warner)
Svetlanov (Scribendum)

Toch
Francis

Tubin
Jarvi

Vaughan Williams
Thompson
Boult (EMI)
Boult (London)
Handley
Previn
Haitink

Walton
Daniel
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Jo498 on January 29, 2016, 11:40:10 AM
Haydn: Fischer, Dorati (LP)
additionally "Paris": Bernstein, Marriner, Harnoncourt, Fey
"London": Harnoncourt, Scherchen, Herbig

Beethoven: Scherchen, Leibowitz, Karajan 1962, Wand, Cluytens, Norrington/Virgin, Gielen/EMI, Harnoncourt, Brüggen/Philips, Bernstein (combined from NY: 2-5,7 and Vienna: 1,3,6,8,9), DVD: Järvi
almost complete: Weingartner (missing 1+2), Toscanini (missing 6), Furtwängler (missing 2+8)

Schubert: Davis/Dresden, Harnoncourt, Keitel

Schumann: Szell, Klemperer, Bernstein/DG, Levine/DG, Gardiner

Berwald: Björlin

Brahms: Furtwängler, Toscanini, Walter, Jochum/DG, Sanderling/RCA, Klemperer, Wand/RCA, Karajan (latest twofer, mix of 70s and 80s), Giulini/Vienna,

Tchaikovsky: Markevitch (+ an absurd number of 4-6, only about two of which I bought on purpose, namely Mravinsky and Fricsay, the others came somehow in boxes or as couplings)
Dvorak: Kertesz
Borodin: Davis, Roshdestvensky
Mahler: Gielen, (Levine w/o 2+8)
Sibelius: Ashkenazy/Decca
Nielsen: Schonwandt, Roshdestvensky, (Bernstein 2-5)
Skrjabin: Muti
Vaughan Williams: Handley
Shostakovich: Janssons (+ 9/15 with Roshdestvensky)
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Cato on January 29, 2016, 12:07:49 PM
Quote from: Jo498 on January 29, 2016, 11:40:10 AM
Haydn: Fischer, Dorati (LP) etc...


Leider haben Sie die Symphonien von Anton Bruckner und Karl Amadeus Hartmann vergessen!  :o  ;)
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Sergeant Rock on January 29, 2016, 12:32:54 PM
Update from the last time I posted four years ago:

Favorites in bold (requested by George)


ARNOLD 1

PENNY NATIONAL SO IRELAND


ATTERBERG 1

RASILAINEN VARIOUS GERMAN RADIO ORCHESTRAS


BAX 2

Thomson LPO
Handley BBC


BEETHOVEN 13

KARAJAN  BERLIN PHIL (1963)
SOLTI CHICAGO
HARNONCOURT COE
KLEMPERER PHILHARMONIA
BARENBOIM STAATSKAP BERLIN
NORRINGTON LONDON CLASS
NORRINGTON STUTTGART
SZELL CLEVELAND
MAAZEL CLEVELAND
BRÜGGEN   18TH CENTURY
BERNSTEIN VIENNA PHIL
CELIBIDACHE MUNICH PHIL
BÖHM/VIENNA PHIL


BERWALD 2

JÄRVI GOTHENBURG S
KAMU HELSEINGBORG SO


BRAHMS 14

JOCHUM LPO
MACKERRAS SCOTTISH CHAMBER
KLEMPERER PHILHARMONIA
BARENBOIM CHICAGO
MAAZEL CLEVELAND
DOHNÁNYI CLEVELAND
SZELL CLEVELAND
FURTWÄNGLER   VARIOUS (M&A)
FURTWÄNGLER   VARIOUS (ARCHIPEL)

SANDERLING STAATS DRESDEN
WAND SONDR
CELIBIDACHE MUNICH PHIL
GIELEN SWR SO BADEN BADEN
ESCHENBACH HOUSTON


BORODIN 2

ROZHDESTVENSKY STOCKHOLM
GUNZENHAUSER   CSR SO


BRUCKNER 7

MAAZEL SOBR
CHAILLY CONCERGEBOUW RSO BERLIN
BARENBOIM BERLIN PHIL
WAND KÖLNER RSO
KARAJAN BERLIN PHIL
JOCHUM STAATS DRESDEN
CELIBIDACHE MUNICH (3-9)


DVORAK 6

SUITNER   STAATSKAPELLE BERLIN
ROWICKI   LSO
KERTESZ   LSO
KUBELIK   BERLIN PHIL
NEUMANN CZECH PHIL
ANGUÉLOV   SLOVAK RSO


ELGAR 9

BOULT LPO
SINOPOLI PHILH
TATE LSO
C.DAVIS LSO
A.DAVIS BBC
SOLTI LPO
SLATKIN LPO
BARBIROLLI PHILHARMONIA HALLÉ
ELGAR LSO


FRANKEL 1

ALBERT QUEENSLAND SO


GADE 1

JÄRVI STOCKHOLM


GÁL 1

WOODS ORCHESTRA  OF THE SWAN


GLAZUNOV 1

ROZHDESTVENSKY USSR MofC SO


HARTMANN 1

KUBELIK/LEITNER SOBR


HONEGGER 1

BAUDO CZECH PHIL


IVES 1

LITTON DALLAS


KALINNIKOV 2

SVETLANOV USSR ACADEMY SO
BAKELS MALAYSIAN PHIL


LANGGAARD 2

STUPEL ARTUR RUBINSTEIN PHIL
DAUSGAARD DANISH NAT RSO


LLOYD 1

LLOYD BBC OR ALBANY


MADETOJA 1

SAKARI ICELAND SO


MAHLER 14 (16 INCLUDING KONDRASHIN AND LEVINE)

BERNSTEIN NEW YORK (SONY)
BERNSTEIN VARIOUS (DG)
BERNSTEIN VARIOUS (DVD)
MAAZEL VIENNA PHIL
BERTINI KÖLNER RSO
NEUMANN    CZECH PHIL
SINOPOLI  PHILHARMONIA
RATTLE CBSO
TENNSTEDT LPO
SVETLANOV RUSSIAN STATE SO
INBAL RSO FRANKFURT
BOULEZ VARIOUS
CHAILLY CONCERTGEBOUW
GIELEN SWR SO BADEN BADEN
LEVINE VARIOUS
KONDRASHIN MOSCOW PHIL


MAGNARD 2

SANDERLING MALMO
OSSONCE BBC


MARTINU 3

JÄRVI BAMBERG
NEUMANN    CZECH PHIL
THOMSON    ROYAL SCOTTISH


MELARTIN 1

GRIN   TAMPERE PHIL


MENDELSSOHN-BARTHOLDY 3

DOHNÁNYI VIENNA PHIL
KARAJAN BERLIN PHIL
FEY HEIDELBERG


MIASKOVSKY

SVETLANOV VARIOS RUSSIAN ORCHESTRAS


MOZART 1

PINNOCK ENGLISH CONCERT


NIELSEN 9

SCHMIDT   LSO
BLOMSTEDT SAN FRANCISCO
BERNSTEIN/ORMANDY VARIOUS
KUCHAR JANACEK PHIL
ROZHDESTVENSKY STOCKHOLM PHIL
SALONEN   SWEDISH RADIO SO
SCHONWANDT   DANISH NAT SO
BERGLUND ROYAL DANISH
BOSTOCK RLPO


PETTERSSON 1

VARIOUS CONDUCTORS, ORCHESTRAS ON CPO


PROKOFIEV 8

ROZHDESTVENSKY MOSCOW PHIL
OZAWA BERLIN PHIL
JÄRVI SNO
KITAJENKO GÜRZENICH O KÖLN
WELLER LSO
ROSTROPOVICH VARIOUS
GERGIEV LSO
KOSLER CZECH PHIL


ROTT 5  ;D

P.JÄRVI
DAVIES
WEIGLE
ALBRECHT
SEGERSTAM


RUBBRA 1

HICKOX BBC WALES


SCHMIDT 4

RAJTER RSO BRATISLAVA
LUISI MDR SO
JÄRVI DETROIT/CHICAGO
SINAISKY MALMÖ SO


SCHUBERT 6

GOODMAN HANOVER BAND
HARNONCOURT CONCERTGEBOUW
IMMERSEEL ANIMA ETERNA
DAVIS STAATS DRESDEN
BLOMSTEDT STAATS DRESDEN
WAND KÖLNER RSO


SCHUMANN 7

GOODMAN HANNOVER BAND
SZELL CLEVELAND
KLEMPERER NEW PHILH
BARENBOIM STAATS BERLIN
BERNSTEIN VIENNA PHIL
SEMKOW ST LOUIS
CHAILLY GO LEIPZIG


SHOSTAKOVICH 4

JANSONS   VARIOUS
ROSTROPOVICH NATIONAL SO LSO
BARSHAI WDR SO
KITAJENKO GÜRZENICH O KÖLN


SIBELIUS 18

DAVIS LSO RCA
DAVIS BOSTON
DAVIS LSO LIVE
JÄRVI GOTHENBURG S
BERNSTEIN NY PHIL
VÄNSKÄ LAHTI SO
SANDERLING BERLIN SO
MAAZEL VIENNA PHIL
MAAZEL PITTSBURGH
BERGLUND COE
BERGLUND BOURNEMOUTH
ASHKENAZY PHILHARMONIA
ROZHDESTVENSKY MOSCOW RSO
SEGERSTAM HELSINKI PHIL
RATTLE CBSO
BLOMSTEDT SAN FRANCISCO
SAKARI ICELAND SO
BARBIROLLI HALLÉ


SIMPSON 1

HANDLEY/TAYLOR VARIOUS ORCHESTRAS


STENHAMMAR 1

JÄRVI GOTHENBURG S


TCHAIKOVSKY 1

MARKEVITCH LSO


TIPPETT 2

DAVIS LSO (SOLTI/CHICAGO #4)
HICKOX BOURNEMOUTH


TUBIN 1

JÄRVI  VARIOUS ORCHESTRAS


TOURNEMIRE 1

ALMEIDA MOSCOW SO


VAUGHAN WILLIAMS 9

HAITINK LPO
HANDLEY RLPO
PREVIN LSO
THOMSON LSO
BOULT LPO (EMI)
BOULT LPO (DECCA)
SLATKIN PHILHARMONIA
DAVIS BBC
ROZHDESTVENSKY USSR MOC
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Brian on January 29, 2016, 12:36:46 PM
WHAT?!??! THERE'S A FEY MENDELSSOHN CYCLE??!?!?

How did I not know this before :( :( :( wait turn that frown upside down, what a joyful discovery!
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Sergeant Rock on January 29, 2016, 12:45:58 PM
Quote from: Brian on January 29, 2016, 12:36:46 PM
WHAT?!??! THERE'S A FEY MENDELSSOHN CYCLE??!?!?

There is, on Hänssler...and it's thrilling (well, different, just like the Hobbit's Haydn).

(http://photos.imageevent.com/sgtrock/jan2013/mendelssohn1fey.jpg) (http://photos.imageevent.com/sgtrock/jan2013/mendelssohn3fey.jpg)

(http://photos.imageevent.com/sgtrock/jan2013/mendelssohn4fey.jpg) (http://photos.imageevent.com/sgtrock/jan2013/mendelssohn5fey.jpg)

Sarge
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Jo498 on January 29, 2016, 01:34:41 PM
I have the Hartmann-Box on Wergo, but I was not sure about that because it is not all conducted by the same person.
I also have all symphonies of Mendelssohn, Prokofieff (I think.. not really familiar with them except 1 and 5...), Bruckner (and probably Mozart and maybe CPE Bach (not sure how many there are besides the great Hamburg 6+4)) but never from one conductor.

Even with the Gielen Mahler I was somewhat cheating because I bought them all separately on two different labels but they are all with the same conductor and orchestra and I bought the 5th only to get it complete, maybe I'll get rid of that one, the last time I listened to it I was not that fond of it. But despite not having a Bruckner cycle from one conductor I have about 9 recordings of the 7th and about 6 of the 5th and 8th.

Other cycles:

Bach:
Brandenburg Concerti: Britten, Leppard, Harnoncourt 80s (60s on LP), Goebel/MAK, Akademie f. Alte Musik, Giardino Armonico
WTC I: Fischer, Gould, Richter, Gulda, Horszowski, Koroliov, Jaccottet, Ross, Levin
WTC II: Fischer, Gould, Richter, Gulda, Shepkin, Jaccottet, Koopman, Dantone, Levin

Handel: op.6 Scherchen, Pommer, Marriner, Harnoncourt, Hogwood, Manze, de Vriend

Haydn: String Quartets: Angeles Quartet
op.33 Apponyi, Buchberger, Casals, Weller, Auryn

Mozart
"Haydn Quartets": ABQ, Hagen, Petersen, Melos
String quintets: Griller (lacking the early one), Melos, Smetana/Suk, Talich
Piano Concertos: Bilson/Gardiner, Barenboim/EMI (I prefer diverse recordings on single discs and hardly listen to those in these two boxes...)

Beethoven
Pianos sonatas: Schnabel, Gulda, Arrau, Gilels, Heidsieck, Lucchesini (+ many singles)
violin sonatas: Heifetz, Francescatti/Casadesus, Frank/Frank, Kremer/Argerich, Faust/Melnikov, Ferras/Barbizet
cello sonatas: Casals/Serkin, Rostropovitch/Richter, Tortelier/Heidsieck, Vogler/Canino, Wispelwey/Lazic
string quartets: Juilliard 1960s, Vegh/Naive, Melos/DG, Musikverein/Platz, Hungarian (stereo),
"almost" cplte: Budapest 30s/40s (no 18/5, 59/1, 133), Hagen (except their most recent disc), Emerson (w/o op.18), Petersen (no op.18/5, 59/1+3, 74)

Bartok quartets: Hungarian, Hagen, Tokyo, Juilliard (1960s)
Shostakovitch quartets: Borodin (Chandos 1-13), Borodin/Melodiya, Sorrel, Brodsky

As I wrote elsewhere, I think these are way too many in some cases... and some are going to be culled in the months to come...
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: George on January 29, 2016, 01:45:42 PM
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on January 29, 2016, 12:32:54 PM
Update from the last time I posted four years ago:

Favorites in bold (requested by George)

Thanks, buddy!  :)

Not suprisingly, we have a lot of common ground:

Quote
BEETHOVEN 13
BARENBOIM STAATSKAP BERLIN
SZELL CLEVELAND


BRAHMS 14
WAND SONDR


BRUCKNER 7
CELIBIDACHE MUNICH (3-9)


DVORAK 6
KERTESZ   LSO


ELGAR 9
BOULT LPO


SCHUBERT 6
HARNONCOURT CONCERTGEBOUW
WAND KÖLNER RSO


SCHUMANN 7
SZELL CLEVELAND


SIBELIUS 18
BERNSTEIN NY PHIL
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: amw on January 30, 2016, 01:35:43 AM
For the purposes of this thread I'm defining a cycle as "more than one CD" and discounting mix-and-match cycles. I've also discounted any discs from the Bernstein Symphonic Edition that I never bothered to rip. Partial cycles are those that include a majority of the symphonies by the composer but have not been completed; not completed cycles of which I only own part.

Atterberg Rasiläinen/CPO

Bax Handley/Chandos

Beethoven Fricsay/DG [partial] // Gardiner/Archiv // Howard/Hyperion // Martynov/Zig-Zag [partial] // Norrington/EMI (4 1/3 + single discs)

Bernstein Bernstein/DG

Berwald Järvi/DG

Brahms Jochum/EMI // Thielemann/DG (2 + single discs)

Chaikovsky Bernstein/Sony // Jansons/Chandos (2 + single discs)

Chávez Mata/Vox

Dutilleux Tortelier/Chandos (+ single disc)

Dvořák Kertész/Decca // Neumann/Supraphon (2 + single discs)

Enescu Andreescu/Olympia // Rozhdestvensky/Chandos (2 + a single disc + the completed 4th and 5th symphonies on CPO)

Farrenc Goritzki/CPO

Foerster Bäumer/MDG

Foss Rose/BMOP

Frankel Albert/CPO

Fuchs Müssauer/Thorofon

Gade Hogwood/Chandos

Gál Woods/Avie

Gerhard Bamert/Chandos

Gernsheim Köhler/Arte Nova

Goldmark Butt/ASV

Guarnieri Neschling/BIS

Hamerik Dausgaard/Dacapo

Hanson Schwarz/Delos

Harbison various conductors/BSO

Hartmann various conductors/Wergo

Haydn Hogwood/L'Oiseau-Lyre & BBC Music Magazine [partial] (+ 2 sets of the London and 2 of the Paris symphonies)

Holmboe Hughes/BIS

Honegger Dutoit/Erato

Ives Litton/Hyperion // Tilson Thomas/Sony (2)

Jadassohn Griffiths/CPO

Kabalevsky Oue/CPO

Krenek various conductors/CPO (+ a single disc)

Landowski various conductors/Erato

Langgaard Dausgaard/Dacapo

Lutosławski Lutosławski/Polskie Nagrania // Salonen/Sony (2)

Madetoja Storgårds/Ondine

Magnard Ossonce/Hyperion

Malipiero de Almeida/Naxos

Martinů Bělohlávek/Onyx

Melartin Grin/Ondine

Mendelssohn Abbado/DG [numbered symphonies] // Goodman/RCA [string symphonies] (1)

Myaskovsky Svetlanov/Warner

Nielsen Bernstein/Sony [partial] // Blomstedt/Decca // Chung/BIS [partial] // Oramo/BIS // Schmidt/don't remember [LP] // Schønwandt/Dacapo (5 1/3)

Nosyrev Verbitsky/Olympia

Nystroem various conductors/BIS

Onslow Goritzki/CPO

Pettersson various conductors/CPO

Prokofiev Järvi/Chandos (+ single discs)

Raphael various conductors/CPO [partial]

Rautavaara various conductors/Ondine

Ries Griffiths/CPO

Riisager Holten/Dacapo

Rimsky-Korsakov Polyansky/Chandos

Roussel Dutoit/Erato

Rubbra Hickox/Chandos

Saint-Saëns Martinon/EMI

Schat various conductors and orchestras/Composer's Voice

Schmidt Järvi/Chandos

Schubert Minkowski/Naïve (+ single discs)

Schumann Chailly/Decca // Gardiner/Archiv // Holliger/Audite // Ticciati/Linn (4 + a single disc)

Shebalin various conductors and orchestras/Olympia

Sibelius Blomstedt/Decca (+ single discs)

Simpson Handley/Hyperion

Spohr Shelley/Hyperion

Stenhammar Järvi/BIS

Svendsen Mikkelsen/CPO

Tippett various conductors/Decca

Tubin Volmer/Alba

Ustvolskaya Malov/Megadisc

Valen Eggen/BIS

Vaughan Williams Haitink/EMI

Vermeulen various conductors and orchestras/Composer's Voice

Vierne Roß/Audite

Walton Litton/Decca

Weingartner various conductors/CPO

Wellesz Rabl/CPO

Yun Ukigaya/CPO

Possibly a bit excessive. (Don't we have a "spoiler" tag?)
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Jo498 on January 30, 2016, 02:19:46 AM
I forgot some:

Kraus/Concerto Köln (apparently not complete because I have another disc "Vol.3 from a Naxos series, probably a mess with alternative versions)
Balakirev/Svetlanov (Melodiya/BMG)
Rimsky-Korsakov/Butt (Brilliant)
Magnard/Plasson (EMI)
Honegger/Plasson (EMI)
Ives/Litton (hyperion)
Weill/Bertini (EMI)
Stravinsky/Stravinsky (without the early one, though)
Bernstein/Bernstein (DG)

I wonder how many "symphonies" are usually counted for Hindemith and whether I have them all (not from one conductor, though).

Some cycles of which I bought one or (usually) more discs but stopped on purpose because boredom or happy with a few representative works or just could not be bothered and stuff became unavailable, or there had never been a complete set available:

Sammartini
F.X. Richter (one of my favorites of the mid 18th century, though)
J. Chr. Bach
Boccherini
Michael Haydn
Onslow
Ries
Spohr
Gade
Glasunov
Myaskowsky
Krenek
Schulhoff
Lajtha
Wellesz
Simpson
Henze
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: amw on January 30, 2016, 07:32:08 PM
I have a few volumes of the Kraus/Concerto Köln series but don't know if it's complete or even partially complete, thus didn't include it. (Anyway I'm missing at least one volume) Some of my favourite non-Mozart/Haydn classical era symphonies though. There are also undoubtedly a few other cycles of which I stopped acquiring volumes as well (Boccherini, CPE Bach, Lajtha, Henze—have all but No. 9, because I really disliked it when first hearing it—etc) and I certainly don't need all of the volumes of the Spohr, Gade, Tubin, Rautavaara, Atterberg, Pettersson etc cycles but it's nice to have them just as a library-building thing.

Tracking down all the single-disc 'cycles' (Borodin, Weill, Kalinnikov, Arensky, Lilburn etc) would probably take ages. Offhand I can remember the following "frankencycles" though:

Bruckner (partial)
2 - Pinnock/Linn
3 (original) - currently awaiting an interlibrary loan of Blomstedt/Querstand
3 (final) - Szell/CBS
4 (original) - currently awaiting Young/Oehms
4 (final) - Honeck/Reference
5 - Davies/Arte Nova // Dohnányi/Cleveland
5 (Schalk) - Knappertsbusch/Decca (I don't strictly need this, but it's fun)
6 - Eichhorn/Camerata // Norrington/Hänssler // Sawallisch/Orfeo // Stein/Decca
7 - Herreweghe/HM // Norrington/Hänssler // Wand/RCA
8 - Chailly/Concertgebouw/Decca // Jochum/ORF // Païta/Lodia
9 - Rattle/EMI

Mahler
1 - Bernstein/Sony (from the box—didn't like) // Hengelbrock/Sony (new acquisition, not yet listened)
2 - Bernstein/Sony (from the box—don't like the symphony particularly, though)
3 - Salonen/Sony
4 - Fischer/Channel
5 - Kondrashin/Melodiya
6 - Bernstein/Sony (from the box—unsatisfied with) // Kubelik/Audite
7 - Klemperer/EMI (perverse, but I couldn't bring myself to get rid of) // Bernstein/Sony (from the box—somewhat better, but more routine I think)
8 - Solti/Decca
9 - Neumann/Berlin Classics
10 - Harding/DG

Shostakovich (partial)
1 - Haitink/Decca // Kondrashin/Melodiya
2 - Kondrashin/Melodiya
3 - Kondrashin/Melodiya
4 - Kondrashin/Melodiya
5 - Sanderling/Berlin Classics // Kondrashin/Melodiya
6 - Kondrashin/Melodiya
8 - Sanderling/Berlin Classics
9 - Haitink/Decca
11 - Kondrashin/Melodiya
12 - Kondrashin/Melodiya
14 - Currentzis/Alpha
15 - Sanderling/Berlin Classics

(I don't know why I never bothered to get the whole Kondrashin set, maybe that's a thing to do for the future, not that I am particularly interested in Shostakovich's symphonies)

Schnittke
0 - Hughes/BIS
1 - Rozhdestvensky/Chandos
2 - Rozhdestvensky/BBC Radio Classics
3 - Jurowski/Pentatone
4 - Kamu/BIS
5 - Chailly/Decca
6 - Polyansky/Chandos
7 - Polyansky/Chandos
8 - Rozhdestvensky/Chandos
9 - Davies/ECM

Some symphonic cycles I have are only available as "frankencycles" eg Ruders (the first two on Dacapo, the next two on Bridge) or Weinberg incomplete (divided between Naxos, Chandos, Melodiya and Toccata Classics at the moment). There is a complete Hindemith cycle of the non-concertante orchestral works I believe (including all 5 orchestral symphonies—Mathis der Maler, E-flat, Symphonia serena, Harmonie der Welt & Pittsburgh—and the two Sinfoniettas, but maybe not the B-flat symphony for wind band), that being Werner Andreas Albert's on CPO.
Title: Re: Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
Post by: Jo498 on January 30, 2016, 11:39:14 PM
Borodin is almost always two discs, I think, because the three symphonies do not fit onto one, despite there only being a fragment of the 3rd. Balakirev's can be put on one, but my issue is on two with fillers.

I think the Naxos Kraus symphony series has 4 volumes and is as complete as the current state of Kraus scholarship allows whereas the two discs with the Concerto Köln give the 8 most important works. I agree that he is the most interesting symphony composer of the ca. 1780s after Haydn and Mozart I have heard, mainly because with his serious "Gluckian" (this sound silly...) style he is rather different from Haydn and Mozart, therefore not sounding like "lesser" Haydn or Mozart (as Michael often does).
And FX Richter ist the most interesting of the 1740s/50s but I am far less familiar with what else was around at that time.
I checked that I have about 8 or 9 symphonies from the Berlin period of CPE Bach; this seems reasonably complete together with the 10 from Hamburg, so I will not get out of my way to find more.

If you like Kondrashin, get at least his Mahler 7th, probably the 6th as well (it's the only Mahler of his I know but they are very interesting and fairly unique).