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Ha, ha, he goes to church now of his own accord, having made his own decision. I gave him enough space to figure out things for himself.  It took me a long time to come full circle after my own adolescent rebellion, having realized it was far worse outside around those with unclear, changeable "secular" values than inside with already agreed upon and tested values.  It makes life much easier.
Leaving religion is very difficult. I understand that even if I have been an atheist all my life.
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But none of them as blindly and self-congratulatory as yours. I wouldn't be bothered, however, if you were less offensive towards the convictions of other members, here.  ???

Offending silly thoughts and ideologies is important. That's how our culture improves: Abandoning silly ideologies. For example zamyrabyrd might be offended by my posts, but I direct my words to her ideologies, not on her as a person. 100 years ago some people offended people who thought women should not have the right to vote. Thanks to that zamyrabyrd and other women can vote.

People are welcome to offend my silly ideologies too. It gives me an opportunity to learn.
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Classical Music for Beginners / Re: Newbies' Blush List Dozen
« Last post by Spineur on Today at 08:44:56 AM »
Bach badinerie from orchestra suite no 2 2:20 of pure happiness

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/3jYxMlPm-_Y" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/3jYxMlPm-_Y</a>
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Not that the Tuperos (least of all, those here) care/mind, but:

Bannon, basically: [El Tupé’s] campaign was a fraud

They're like ferrets in a tied-up sack.
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Classical Music for Beginners / Re: Newbies' Blush List Dozen
« Last post by k a rl h e nn i ng on Today at 08:39:51 AM »
That all comes under 'expected to know,' I think.  That said, I did not post any music to which I am not perfectly happy to listen, myself.
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But none of them as blindly and self-congratulatory as yours. I wouldn't be bothered, however, if you were less offensive towards the convictions of other members, here.  ???

I just want to say, as a church staff member, that Christians in the United States have much less occasion for grievance than the present discussion may suggest.  IMO, if you like.
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Classical Music for Beginners / Re: Newbies' Blush List Dozen
« Last post by Mahlerian on Today at 08:38:18 AM »
I'm ashamed to have forgotten Pictures.  I did vacillate about adding The Four Seasons or not...figured there was plenty more without it.  Now I've revealed my bias and will shut up.

There's nothing wrong with getting to know the warhorses and the the popular hits, so I wish you happy listening, Rosalba.
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Classical Music for Beginners / Re: Newbies' Blush List Dozen
« Last post by k a rl h e nn i ng on Today at 08:34:40 AM »
Excellent add, Karlo!
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You have a smart son. He was able to break free from the religion forced on him. I respect that.
Scientific worldview and secular humanism are common answers to those who reject religion.


Ha, ha, he goes to church now of his own accord, having made his own decision. I gave him enough space to figure out things for himself.  It took me a long time to come full circle after my own adolescent rebellion, having realized it was far worse outside around those with unclear, changeable "secular" values than inside with already agreed upon and tested values.  It makes life much easier.
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Classical Music for Beginners / Re: Newbies' Blush List Dozen
« Last post by North Star on Today at 08:33:59 AM »
Mussorgsky - Pictures at an Exhibition (there are also numerous orchestrations, most famously the one by Ravel)
Below are two recordings of the work, by Mikhail Pletnev and Leif-Ove Andsnes.
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/kxg2R0Pqb3c" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/kxg2R0Pqb3c</a>
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