Tough, I know, but you don't get one year more, nor less, just fifty.
Mine has to be 1801 -1850, much as I regret leaving aside Haydn and Mozart.
What's yours, if you have any?
1701-1750, for obvious reasons. ;D
Quote from: Marc on May 18, 2017, 01:25:52 AM
1701-1750, for obvious reasons. ;D
Same here, even if some earlier periods offer strong competition.
1778 to 1828
Quote from: (: premont :) on May 18, 2017, 01:45:15 AM
Same here, even if some earlier periods offer strong competition.
Same here. ;)
Quote from: Syek88 on May 18, 2017, 02:27:03 AM
1778 to 1828
Yeah.
From Mozart's KV 310 to Schubert's
Winterreise.
If pressed, I'd probably also go with ca. 1780-1830 as it has the highest number of favorite works and composer. With 1830 one even gets early Berlioz, Chopin and Mendelssohn.
Having a very difficult time choosing between 1778-1828, 1890-1940, 1945-1995.
In my opinion the period from late 18th century to early 19th century is overemphasized in music history.
My favorite 50 years period in classical music must be about 1680-1730.
1775-1824. If the world has to end, Beethoven's 9th symphony is as good a place for it as any, and better than most. :)
8)
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on May 18, 2017, 04:17:36 AM
1775-1824. If the world has to end, Beethoven's 9th symphony is as good a place for it as any, and better than most. :)
8)
Nice! Not at all a surprise; nevertheless, simply nice!
Late Romantic, early modern period for me: 1878-2027 1927
That covers Parsifal, Bruckner 1-9 (at least the later versions of the early symphonies), Brahms 3 & 4, Mahler, Dvorak 6-9, Sibelius,Fauré, Magnard, Elgar, Debussy, much of my favorite R.Strauss and Stravinsky, early Second Viennese School, and, of course, Havergal Brian's Gothic.
Sarge
Hmmmm. Tough one. I'd either go 1824 to 1874 (Just getting Verdi's Requiem in) or something like 1851-1901 (which would fit in Tchaikovsky, Brahms, Dvorak and later Bruckner). I am leaning with the first, but as I think about it, I'd also get Saint-Saens, Faure and other wonderful composers from that later transition period. I'd also get later Verdi, but I'd miss out on Donizetti and Bellini.
So maybe I'd go with the second period after all. Tough call. If forced to play fair, I guess I'd go with 1852-1901 (but I'd have to look more exactly to see which way is better).
Props to Gurn, Marc and Florestan for not cheating like the rest of us! :)
And Maybe Sarge, who seems to be quite on the edge with his choice (does he have a time machine or what?)! :)
Quote from: mc ukrneal on May 18, 2017, 04:57:43 AM
And Maybe Sarge, who seems to be quite on the edge with his choice (does he have a time machine or what?)! :)
;D :D ;D ...didn't notice that brain fart, obviously.
Sarge
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on May 18, 2017, 05:08:14 AM
;D :D ;D ...didn't notice that brain fart, obviously.
Sarge
And here, I took that as an effort to encompass Henningmusick! 0:)
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 18, 2017, 05:12:34 AM
And here, I took that as an effort to encompass Henningmusick! 0:)
I'm sure that was my subliminal intention 8)
Sarge
I haven't even lived for fifty years. Not even half that. I wouldn't know what fifty years feels like so it would be hard to make an informed choice anyway. I do like music being created now, and if I am also allowed to say that I like music composed today as well as whatever year was 50 years ago then I'd be glad to update my 50 year choice each year, bumping off one from the past as I add a new one to the present. Also, this period allows me to listen to music however I'd like. And in the age of international travel I could also relatively easily go see some famous orchestras and musicians in their home towns.
1850-1900.
1900 - 1950
(Present Minus 50) - (Present)
They didn't even have audio recording in half of y'alls answers!
Quote from: nathanb on May 18, 2017, 06:48:35 AM
(Present Minus 50) - (Present)
They didn't even have audio recording in half of y'alls answers!
Or modern dentistry for that matter
Quote from: Jo498 on May 18, 2017, 03:06:31 AM
If pressed, I'd probably also go with ca. 1780-1830 as it has the highest number of favorite works and composer.
That was my criterion, too. Within 1810-1850 I get
Beethoven, Weber, Schubert, Chopin, Schumann, Mendelssohn, Liszt, Berlioz, Rossini, Bellini, Donizetti, to name but the greatest ones.
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on May 18, 2017, 04:17:36 AM
1775-1824.
Frankly, I'm surprised. From you I expected 1760-1810. :laugh:
Quote from: nathanb on May 18, 2017, 06:48:35 AM
They didn't even have audio recording in half of y'alls answers!
Quote from: bwv 1080 on May 18, 2017, 06:50:22 AM
Or modern dentistry for that matter
You misunderstood my question. It was not "when would you rather live?" but simply "your favorite 50 years in music history?". Most posters got it right. ;D
In my period of choice, dentistry was indeed a big problem, but lack of recordings not so much --- that was the golden age of
Hausmusik, where people made music themselves, which I think is a much more engaging and exciting thing than passively listening to recordings.
The classical era lasted about 50 years - roughly 1750-1800, although this varies from country to country.
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on May 18, 2017, 04:17:36 AM
1775-1824. If the world has to end, Beethoven's 9th symphony is as good a place for it as any, and better than most. :)
8)
Dude! you miss all the late string quartets
Quote from: Florestan on May 18, 2017, 09:15:31 AMYou misunderstood my question. It was not "when would you rather live?" but simply "your favorite 50 years in music history?". Most posters got it right. ;D
I understood your question perfectly. Maybe you didn't.
Quote from: nathanb on May 18, 2017, 11:21:53 AM
I understood your question perfectly.
Then what relevance does this rejoinder
Quote from: nathanb on May 18, 2017, 06:48:35 AM
They didn't even have audio recording in half of y'alls answers!
have?
Quote from: bwv 1080 on May 18, 2017, 11:08:48 AM
Dude! you miss all the late string quartets
Gotta make sacrifices. The 1770's were the first big flowering of Viennese Classicism, I have to tell you honestly, that is more important to me, even though I like the hell out of the Late Quartets. And latest Schubert, and early Mendelssohn... 50 years sucks anyway, that must be a Florestan thing. I would have picked 75 and given up nothing. :)
8)
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on May 18, 2017, 11:30:48 AM
50 years sucks anyway, that must be a Florestan thing. I would have picked 75 and given up nothing. :)
Initially I thought about 100 years, but that would have made things too easy. ;D
Do they have to be consecutive years?
How about favorite 50 year period of CD pressings?
Quote from: Florestan on May 18, 2017, 11:34:00 AM
Initially I thought about 100 years, but that would have made things too easy. ;D
Then we could have compromised on 75. I would have picked 1755 (professional emergence of Haydn) to 1829 (death of Schubert, and been relatively happy. But would you ask me? Oh, noooooo... :D
8)
1575-1625. Byrd's entire creative life, late Tallis, Palestrina, Victoria, Lassus, Gibbons. And most of Monteverdi. And early Schütz.
Quote from: Florestan on May 18, 2017, 11:57:41 AMQuote from: Ken B on May 18, 2017, 11:55:27 AM
Do they have to be consecutive years?
Yes. ;D
Damn! I was already quite advanced with a list of 50 isolated years (spanning from 1607 to 2006) that would be my favourites... :D :D
Quote from: Florestan on May 18, 2017, 11:34:00 AM
Initially I thought about 100 years, but that would have made things too easy. ;D
Or perhaps more difficult.
Q: What is your favorite 1,000-Year-Period in Music History?
A: Yes.
Probably the 50 years starting from Bach writing Actus Tragicus (to sneak in a few post Bach years), but maybe the 50 years ending 1630, per 71dB.
Any choice would omit 1897-1922, which is the sparsest 25 year stretch ever.
1897-22 is the meat of Mahler, all of Debussy, the early 2nd Vienesse school, early Stravinsky - would be about the last period I would give up
I would easily skip 1609-1703, from the death of Gesualdo to the start of Bach's career
Or 1750-1775
Those would be the only significant periods from the 14h century to present
Many of Sibelius's mature works are also from period 1897-1922, as well as Richard Strauss's Salome, Elektra, Alpensinfonie, etc.
Quote from: Ken B on May 19, 2017, 10:12:52 AM
1897-1922, which is the sparsest 25 year stretch ever.
Possibly the funniest thing anyone has ever posted, ever.
Certainly the most ridiculous.
But funny. Very very funny. My jaw aches from laughing.
:laugh:
Quote from: bwv 1080 on May 19, 2017, 10:47:29 AM
1897-22 is the meat of Mahler, all of Debussy, the early 2nd Vienesse school, early Stravinsky
Exactly. Plus a lot of Sibelius and Ravel. That's not an overwhelming amount of great stuff for a whole 25 years. That corpus you list doesn't match the 5 last years of Schubert's life, or just the works of Brahms in the preceding 25 years. No period is devoid of great music, but this one is ... deficient. ;)
Quote from: bwv 1080 on May 19, 2017, 10:47:29 AM
[...]
I would easily skip 1609-1703, from the death of Gesualdo to the start of Bach's career
[...]
Which was probably the period that 'taught' Bach.
Without Sweelinck (and his pupils), Frescobaldi, Froberger, Schütz, Reincken, Pachelbel, Buxtehude, Böhm, and all the others I won't mention, Bach wouldn't be possible.
Quote from: Marc on May 19, 2017, 12:00:25 PM
Which was probably the period that 'taught' Bach.
Without Sweelinck (and his pupils), Frescobaldi, Froberger, Schütz, Reincken, Pachelbel, Buxtehude, Böhm, and all the others I won't mention, Bach wouldn't be possible.
Yes, but thankfully there was Bach, so I can just skip over the lot of them. Bach, Scarlatti & Rameau is all the Baroque I need
Quote from: bwv 1080 on May 19, 2017, 12:30:15 PM
Yes, but thankfully there was Bach, so I can just skip over the lot of them. Bach, Scarlatti & Rameau is all the Baroque I need
Well, tastes differ. Of course I could say:
check them out or
listen again, but... why?
I'm happy, hope you're happy, too.
:)
I was mostly surprised by the word 'easily', I guess.
Anyway, as you might have guessed, I love the 17th century, that great 'whirlpool' of
phantastico and
antico, of
north and
south, of all the various pitches and temperaments.
Quote from: Ken B on May 19, 2017, 10:12:52 AM
Any choice would omit 1897-1922, which is the sparsest 25 year stretch ever.
Wrong thread, Ken. This belongs in the unpopular opinion thread :D
Sarge
Another thing I just remembered about my preferred piece of music history is the early music revival and also it was when historically informed performance really began taking off. Some of my favourite musicians are associated with that movement.
1900-1950, hands down, not merely for the work composed therein but for music history's broader appreciation for all or much that came before, which makes it a most singular half-century in time, give or take a few years...
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on May 19, 2017, 01:20:03 PM
Wrong thread, Ken. This belongs in the unpopular opinion thread :D
Sarge
It surely does. :)
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on May 18, 2017, 04:48:16 AM
Late Romantic, early modern period for me: 1878-1927
That is essentially right-on-the-dot with what I was thinking.
QuoteThat covers Parsifal, Bruckner 1-9 (at least the later versions of the early symphonies), Brahms 3 & 4, Mahler, Dvorak 6-9, Sibelius,Fauré, Magnard, Elgar, Debussy, much of my favorite R.Strauss and Stravinsky, early Second Viennese School, and, of course, Havergal Brian's Gothic.
Good coverage. I'd add Liszt, Prokofiev, Rachmaninoff, Scriabin, Martinu, Janacek, Bartok, Saint-Saens, Britten, and Ravel.
Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on May 20, 2017, 08:51:20 AM
That is essentially right-on-the-dot with what I was thinking.
Good coverage. I'd add Liszt, Prokofiev, Rachmaninoff, Scriabin, Martinu, Janacek, Bartok, Saint-Saens, Britten, and Ravel.
We'd miss some of the great late works (Paganini Rhapsody, Symphonic Dances, Corelli Variations, Third Symphony) but yeah, Rach is essentially covered with a 1927 cutoff (most of the solo piano works, First and Second Symphonies, Bells, all the Concertos, operas, choral works).
Sarge
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on May 20, 2017, 09:13:58 AM
We'd miss some to the great late works (Paganini Rhapsody, Symphonic Dances, Corelli Variations, Third Symphony) but yeah, Rach is essentially covered with a 1927 cutoff (most of the solo piano works, First and Second Symphonies, Bells, all the Concertos, operas, choral works).
Sarge
Yeah that is some meaty Rach. More of a stretch might be my inclusion of Liszt, but I'm very partial to his late period. It sneaks up on you...
Quote from: bwv 1080 on May 19, 2017, 12:30:15 PM
Yes, but thankfully there was Bach, so I can just skip over the lot of them. Bach, Scarlatti & Rameau is all the Baroque I need
Man are you missing a lot a great music with that attitude. Not even Handel? ???
For example, the cantatas of Nikolaus Bruhns are imo very beautiful and sophisticated music and the model for Bach's early cantatas. Bruhns was such a talented genius who died too young but was nevertheless a "superstar" of his time. But you don't need that stuff do you? Your loss. My loss is that Bruhns' chamber music is completely lost. :(
Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on May 20, 2017, 09:26:39 AMMore of a stretch might be my inclusion of Liszt, but I'm very partial to his late period.
As am I. Do you have this?
[asin]B000BRBLY6[/asin]
Sarge
Quote from: Marc on May 19, 2017, 12:00:25 PM
Which was probably the period that 'taught' Bach.
Without Sweelinck (and his pupils), Frescobaldi, Froberger, Schütz, Reincken, Pachelbel, Buxtehude, Böhm, and all the others I won't mention, Bach wouldn't be possible.
The greatness of Bach is the combination of his Einstein-level genius of counterpoint AND the legacy of Northern-Germany baroque before him. He met Buxtehude and studied the works of composers such as Bruhns and Kuhnau. No wonder he had superb premises to become the giant of baroque he is.
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on May 20, 2017, 01:11:54 PM
As am I. Do you have this?
[asin]B000BRBLY6[/asin]
Sarge
No, don't have it. I've actually never heard of Peter Toth. Went hunting around on the Amazons to learn more about him but came up with zilch. Seems to be on the obscure side.
But then headed over to YouTube and found some great stuff! Yeah, I like his Liszt, what there is of it on YouTube, anyway. You got me pining for this disc now, Sarge. But damn you it's expensive! :D
Quote from: 71 dB on May 20, 2017, 12:53:14 PM
Man are you missing a lot a great music with that attitude. Not even Handel? ???
For example, the cantatas of Nikolaus Bruhns are imo very beautiful and sophisticated music and the model for Bach's early cantatas. Bruhns was such a talented genius who died too young but was nevertheless a "superstar" of his time. But you don't need that stuff do you? Your loss. My loss is that Bruhns' chamber music is completely lost. :(
One of my great discoveries of recent years is Purcell. Smack in the middle!
1) 1950-2000
2) 1900-1950
3) 1150-1200
4) 1200-1250
5) 1250-1300
Quote from: jessop on May 22, 2017, 08:21:43 PM
I need recommendations :)
https://www.youtube.com/v/gtkmnhnHWhw
1842-1892
As a newbie ignoramus, this was an interesting little exercise for me. After some gnashing of teeth I settled on 1907-1957. 1907 starts the period with Scriabin's Piano Sonata No.5 and 1957 gives me Vaughan William's Symphony No.9. So I get the later sonatas and all the symphonies, and a goodly chunk of Ravel.
I am content. I shall have to see what else this time period gives me. 🙂
Quote from: Florestan on May 18, 2017, 01:23:26 AM
1801 -1850
If hardpressed, I could replace that with
1701-1750,
1780-1830 (with a good deal of overlapping), or
1850-1900, or even
1880-1930. All these periods contain much of the music I like.
Now that I think of it, 90% of the music I listen to was composed within the
1700 - 1950 timeframe, give and take a decade or two. Maybe I should have asked
Your Favorite Quarter Millenium? :D
Quote from: Ken B on May 20, 2017, 03:40:12 PM
One of my great discoveries of recent years is Purcell.
Purcell is great. 8)
Difficult to pin down but probably 1830-1880, a period that contains a great deal of under-appreciated music.
Hmm.
For now I'm going to say 1875-1924, as it gets me all of Dvorak's good stuff up until the end of Faure, while picking up a decent amount of Brahms, the most crucial Ravel, scrapes in Sibelius' 7th symphony... we may need to argue about Nielsen's 6th.
And of course Debussy, early Stravinsky, Mahler is quite interesting so I'll take it, a swathe of Rachmaninov though not the BEST stuff, similarly with Frank Bridge... in fact there's a bit of material from the 1930s I'll be sad to lose. But my concern on the other end is losing too much Brahms.
Quote from: ørfeo on May 29, 2017, 02:51:12 PM
Hmm.
For now I'm going to say 1875-1924
Really close to my 1878-1927.
Sarge
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on May 29, 2017, 03:02:46 PM
Really close to my 1878-1927.
Sarge
Yes, I saw yours and very nearly just copied it. But then thought I better try to think it through myself and came up with my Dvorak-Faure boundary.
EDIT: Plus I get the premiere of Brahms' 1st symphony and a couple of extra chamber works!
Quote from: ørfeo on May 29, 2017, 03:05:03 PM
Yes, I saw yours and very nearly just copied it. But then thought I better try to think it through myself and came up with my Dvorak-Faure boundary.
I initially thought along your lines. Going a few years earlier, I could have included more Dvorak (like 4 and 5, symphonies I dearly love)...but would have missed Brian's Gothic, which would have been intolerable ;)
Sarge
1913-1963
1908-1958
Unfortunately excludes Tchaikovsky's Pathetique and Bruckner's 9th but allows for Mahler's 9th at one end and VW's 9th at the other and all Miaskovsky, Bax etcetera :)
Quote from: vandermolen on June 01, 2017, 09:04:23 PM1908-1958
Unfortunately excludes Tchaikovsky's Pathetique and Bruckner's 9th but allows for Mahler's 9th at one end and VW's 9th at the other and all Miaskovsky, Bax etcetera :)
That's it: including about the whole creative span of Vaughan Williams (1872-1958). :D
1942-1992
gets the end of Bartok and Schoenberg;s output, all of post-war modernism and a good chunk of Ferneyhough and Schnittke
or 1820-1870
late Beethoven, all the early Romantics plus some of Brahms and Wagner