Let's lose weight.
This morning I was at 272. :o Which is outrageous (even if I am tall).
I want to get down to 220. ;D
We can post our weights here every day (or nearly), give each other support and advice. Kind of like the smoke-enders thread for fat guys.
Unless I'm the only guy here with this problem. >:(
Quote from: MN Dave on June 12, 2009, 10:16:17 AM
Let's lose weight.
This morning I was at 272. :o Which is outrageous (even if I am tall).
I want to get down to 220. ;D
We can post our weights here every day (or nearly), give each other support and advice. Kind of like the smoke-enders thread for fat guys.
Unless I'm the only guy here with this problem. >:(
Start weighing yourself in kilograms. ;D
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>:(
I'll put it in simplistic terms - it is all about the speed of your metabolism. As we get older our metabolism has a tendency to slow down, unless circumstances dictate otherwise. There are two major factors in this which are inextricably entwined, diet and exercise. Try to use one without the other to lower your weight and you are doomed to failure. For most people it is the exercise that is usually avoided as it carries the most pain, though for some people I know it is the other way around as they compensate for their heavy gym session by responding with a bit of a pig-out.
A couple of rules here that are important to remember.
1 A poor diet will slow down your metabolism
2 Regular exercise will speed up your metabolism
So, change your eating habits and exercise more. It sounds simple and it is.
Rule number 1 is the foundation of programs like Jenny Craig and Weight Watchers
Rule number 2 is responsible for the massive numbers who inhabit 'the gym'.
Neither of the above are necessary (unless you have no will power) and neither work properly when not in conjunction with the other.
What I am saying is that you don't need to join an expensive gym and take up a calorie counting program which actually provides/sells you your food to lower your weight.
So here is some things I propose that you could do.
#1 - No more fast food (fast is an anagram of fats). Take back control of what you eat. Prepare something where you know the ingredients that went into it.
#2 - Start walking (or cycling). A brisk walk that raises your heart rate will eventually do wonders for your metabolism. You must do this for at least 45 minutes/3 days per week. It's not hard. If you can put hills into your walk then it's even better. Could you walk to work every day?
#3 - Don't count calories, change your diet instead. Honestly, what is your intake of fruits and vegetables? Is it adequate? How many processed foods do you eat? If it comes in a packet you can assume that it's processed and it's not good for you.
#4 Drink plenty of water. Many dietary regimes don't take into account the purgative and excretory powers of good old H2O. At least 6 litres a day is a basic requirement. "I'll be pissing all the time." you think. Correct ...and flushing all those toxins out of your body in the process. In fact, if you do this and nothing else you will begin to lose weight.
#5 Choose the right snacks and cut down on your regular meals - especially dinner. Look at it like you will be spreading your three main meals across the whole day. Your metabolism was actually designed to respond to this form of eating from aeons ago. I vary my snacks between fruit (whole or dried), nuts, cheese, sandwiches, etc. Breakfast is my biggest meal and dinner is my smallest. I don't need that much energy to sleep do I? Whatever happens, unless you are eating excessively, don't reduce your caloric intake! This is the main fault of most diets and your body is not designed to deal with this. It's a quick way to regain even more excess.
#6 - Make sure you include protein (preferably lean), carbs, vegetables/fruit, dairy and a small amount of fat in your diet to keep it balanced. If you think it's necessary take vitamin supplements - a 'B' complex is the one with the broadest spectrum and a good energy booster to boot.
#7 - Finally, treat yourself now and then. Use it as a reward for your diligence and perseverance. Schedule in a fast food or whatever night. You've earned it.
A couple of things that helped me a few years ago when I decided to remove the extra 15+ kilograms I was carrying.
I bought a pressure cooker giving me speedy cooking that tasted so good. Modern pressure cookers are very safe and easy to use. I also counted steps instead of calories. I bought and used a pedometer to keep a track of how far I was walking each day. It gave me a perverse feeling of pleasure to see the kms roll off day by day. I also swim once or twice a week though as a former competitive swimmer this was no chore. It can be very boring following the same black line up and down the pool.
I used my knowledge of exercise regimes combined with some research on diet to come up with this scheme. It took me a while to get used to my new regime (any form of change carries a degree of discomfort initially) but I was patient and the weight has come off and has stayed off. It's the patience part that is the hard part but being able to check on progress was easy. I did it by belt notches! As I pulled in the belt a notch at a time I felt good about it and after punching notch holes that weren't there and eventually having to buy a smaller belt I could see I was making progress. For God's sake don't weigh yourself - its a poor indicator of of your progress and it fluctuates so much (did you pee before you went on the scales? 1L weighs 1 Kg) that it gets confusing and depressing.
Anyway, this is the patented "Holden's Metabolism Booster" scheme. Please send me your cheque in the mail. Seriously - good luck. Report back via this thread on your progress. I am happy to elaborate on any of the above
Thanks, Holden!
I actually know a lot of that stuff (I lost 40 pounds a couple years ago but had an appendectomy, then gained it all back), but it doesn't hurt to be reminded and I think you have a little extra going on there tip-wise, so I'll be sure to study it--repeatedly. ;D
Just got back from a walk/jog, by the way... 8)
Holden has only left one base uncovered: creating threads about double cheeseburgers is not good for the waistline, either. ;D
In the past I've generally hovered around 175, but then I reached 182 last August (I'm 5' 8" and that was a new personal record) and in the ten months since then, I have gotten down to 165. It has been simple (as in: very difficult, but straightforward) for me, maybe because I'm still young. I just eat food very slowly, and the moment I start to feel full, I stop. It's tough, and Lord knows I've broken the rule many times by, say, getting that 5th cookie because the 4th one was so good ;D , but when I really stick to it and just eat the leftovers the next day for lunch, the difference is pretty clear. Oh, by the way, split meals!! I split meals with my roommate's girlfriend for quite some time last year, but then he started worrying that we were planning to share more than food, so we stopped as a reassurance. (N.B. We weren't planning anything.) And, over time, I've noticed that it takes less food to get me feeling full. Much as I love eating, I don't fight that. I like not being dead better. :D
I'll participate in this thread too (and add to signature). My goal is to get down to 157 this August 14th (i.e. 25 pound loss over a year). My long-range goal is to establish a new "average/standard weight" of about 150-155, hiking up to 155 around Christmas and Easter and dipping back to 150 when I can.
Holden's advice is superb and I will try to follow it too. One current habit of mine, which I advise others NOT to replicate, is that I skip breakfast. I've had breakfast maybe 4-6 times so far in 2009. On the other hand, during the school year I played tennis twice a week and that was good. Tennis is a great game because even if you stink at it (like me), it's still a good workout, and also, even if you stink at it, you can have quite a bit of fun. :)
EDIT: Just saw your new post. Huzzah for walking! At college I walk TONS and it is an enormous help and a great joy. I have some rather highly cherished memories of walking our university's "Inner Loop" with Atterberg's Third playing on my iPod. My record for a single day is 6 miles, when I decided to walk back from the movie theatre once.
Great to have you along, Brian. :) I promise not to create any more food threads. 0:)
Good luck!
I too have this problem, however I can't say I'm motivated to jump on board this thread at the moment. :-\ So for now I'll be a bystander, contemplating whether or not I should try (once again) to lose weight. Perhaps I'll feel differently tomorrow. :)
Quote from: Keemun on June 12, 2009, 05:53:45 PM
I too have this problem, however I can't say I'm motivated to jump on board this thread at the moment. :-\ So for now I'll be a bystander, contemplating whether or not I should try (once again) to lose weight. Perhaps I'll feel differently tomorrow. :)
Whenever you're ready, bud. :)
You don't need to eat as much as you think you do. The things Holden said are fantastic but maybe I can add a bit. I onced weighed 220 and Im probably around 180 now. Still should loose 10 or 15 more, but then again I'd need completely new clothes if I did that and can't afford them now.
Drink water before eating anything in the morning, I've begun drinking most of my water in the morning, I will have 2 liters upon waking and maybe 1 more liter throughout the day.
Eat fruits in the morning after the water. It's an energetic start to the day and it will help empty out whats in your colon as fruits quickly leave the stomach.
I like to have oatmeal for breakfast with honey, cinammon, and flax seeds. And I suppose you can just dumb anything else you like in it, almonds, dried cranberries, raisins... It keeps you full for a long time.
Make sure you have a decent amount of fiber with every meal. It's pointless to eat better if you don't digest well.
And on that point chew chew chew chew chew x10000...chew! Let it be your mantra when you eat like your a damn locomotive chew chew!! Chewing will make digestion much easier, and you will realize you fill up with much less food. I've read that just by chewing for awhile, your brain will tell you its full.
Im no cook so what to eat for dinner? I eat rice with with lentils and then plain yogurt...things high in fiber carry a punch and fill your belly fast. Chickpeas for me are tasty, but I constantly underestimate them and will say this won't fill me up...but boy do they...beans...
Popcorn is a fantastic snack, by an air popper....
Other than that don't eat late at night, if you sleep at 11 eat, stop eating at 7.
Don't drink much fluids after or during you eat, its best to have them before.
Don't be afraid of fats, just choose good fats like olive oil. Nuts are high in fat but they are fantastic things.
The benefits of a good diet are far more than loosing weight, keep track of your moods and if you get headaches or pains...you'll notice they don't come anymore with a good diet.
You can also try fasting, which might be taboo to some people...I personally enjoy it.
All aboard.....CHEW CHEW!!
good luck!
I am in, Dave. 220 at 5' 11". The doc says 182 for me. My goal is 199 by August.
I'm sitting at 6 ft, 190 lbs...goal is to be just as strong, but about 10 lbs lighter. This is tricky as strength tends to fluctuate with body weight...
Quote from: Joe_Campbell on June 13, 2009, 12:08:43 AM
I'm sitting at 6 ft, 190 lbs...goal is to be just as strong, but about 10 lbs lighter. This is tricky as strength tends to fluctuate with body weight...
Don't go by body weight - this is the fallacy that so many diet programs feed on (pun intended)! Muscle weighs at least 30% more than fat and if you exercise you build muscle to replace fat. The paradox is that while you are actually doing yourself some good, your weight initially increases. It goes down rapidly later. So go for strength and don't bother with the scales as they are telling you lies.
Mozart - good to see that you appreciate the value of water. I didn't know about the chewing - I'll follow it up.
Quote from: Brian on June 12, 2009, 02:29:03 PM
On the other hand, during the school year I played tennis twice a week and that was good. Tennis is a great game because even if you stink at it (like me), it's still a good workout, and also, even if you stink at it, you can have quite a bit of fun. :)
Bah, I disagree! There is a minimum stink level for enjoyment. Stink like Brian, you may have fun. Stink like me and net every other ball, not good ;D.
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EDIT: Just saw your new post. Huzzah for walking! At college I walk TONS and it is an enormous help and a great joy. I have some rather highly cherished memories of walking our university's "Inner Loop" with Atterberg's Third playing on my iPod. My record for a single day is 6 miles, when I decided to walk back from the movie theatre once.
I run to Prokofieff - good stuff :D.
Quote from: Holden on June 12, 2009, 02:13:08 PM
#4 Drink plenty of water. Many dietary regimes don't take into account the purgative and excretory powers of good old H2O. At least 6 litres a day is a basic requirement. "I'll be pissing all the time." you think. Correct ...and flushing all those toxins out of your body in the process. In fact, if you do this and nothing else you will begin to lose weight.
:o :o :o Isn't that too much for ordinary activities?
Glad to have some more folks aboard and additional helpful hints. 0:)
I lost 2.5 pounds in one day!
I did eat a lot on Thursday. More than usual because there was a lunch party at work (KFC) and I went out to dinner (pizza) that night.
Anyway, 269.5 now...
I know it gets harder to lose as it goes down... :)
Quote from: Holden on June 12, 2009, 02:13:08 PM
#3 - Don't count calories, change your diet instead. Honestly, what is your intake of fruits and vegetables? Is it adequate? How many processed foods do you eat? If it comes in a packet you can assume that it's processed and it's not good for you.
This one is really good - I changed my diet for health rather than weight reasons, but by ignoring calories and focusing on ingredients and portion sizes (accompanied by exercise, naturally), I managed to lose some fat that I wasn't even aware that I had :D
I think one key thing to realise is that a common story I read from a lot of people is that they have made great efforts to lose weight but despite cutting out all the "bad" foods and exercising regularly, still have trouble. This is often simply because they are eating too large portion sizes. Perhaps experiment with smaller meals (very gradually), or ramping up exercise if you want to keep meals larger. Smaller meals could also allow you to eat more filling snacks, by redistributing the "saved" food. Any one depends on the person's preference, really.
Don't check the scale every 5 minutes buddy, you're going to end up the same as a teenage anorexic girl. You will feel the loss, you don't need a scale to confirm it. Buy yourself a big belt, and just see that you are moving down it. Weigh yourself monthly, at most weekly...
As for the 6 liters, I don't see it a problem to drink a lot of water, as long as its done at the right time. Theres a million different opinions and humans tend to form ideas based more on cow turd than real evidence. But water with meals or after, I've read anyways, isn't good for digestion. Neither is cold water as they stop enzymes.
There is also a short of addiction...I went through not exactly withdrawal but damn difficult to get rid of junk in your diet, you get intense cravings. It took me about a whole year to finally not get them anymore.
Cat Enders!
Quote from: Mozart on June 13, 2009, 07:49:25 AM
Don't check the scale every 5 minutes buddy, you're going to end up the same as a teenage anorexic girl. You will feel the loss, you don't need a scale to confirm it. Buy yourself a big belt, and just see that you are moving down it. Weigh yourself monthly, at most weekly...
As for the 6 liters, I don't see it a problem to drink a lot of water, as long as its done at the right time. Theres a million different opinions and humans tend to form ideas based more on cow turd than real evidence. But water with meals or after, I've read anyways, isn't good for digestion. Neither is cold water as they stop enzymes.
There is also a short of addiction...I went through not exactly withdrawal but damn difficult to get rid of junk in your diet, you get intense cravings. It took me about a whole year to finally not get them anymore.
The best way to drink water is to sip it. At work I carry a water bottle with me and sip constantly but then again I am a PE teacher working in a warm climate. However, the habit has stayed with me and a water bottle goes with me in the car as well as other places. I'm not sure about the water with meals idea though I do remember reading somewhere that this wasn't good and that you should eat first and drink afterwards. Whatever the fact, drinking water will help you lose weight. There is a very simple test to see whether you are drinking enough water. Your urine should be perfectly clear. If it's coloured in anyway then you have not put enough water into your system. The backlash for this further down the line is the likelihood of kidney stones.
I agree about the addictive qualities of both fat and sugar. If you have a heavy fatty meal you frequently find yourselves with the 'munchies' about an hour or so later and it's a similar thing for sugar.
Quote from: Holden on June 13, 2009, 12:34:15 AM
Don't go by body weight - this is the fallacy that so many diet programs feed on (pun intended)! Muscle weighs at least 30% more than fat and if you exercise you build muscle to replace fat. The paradox is that while you are actually doing yourself some good, your weight initially increases. It goes down rapidly later. So go for strength and don't bother with the scales as they are telling you lies.
Mozart - good to see that you appreciate the value of water. I didn't know about the chewing - I'll follow it up.
Don't worry. I'm no believer in the BMI, and I am lean. I just want to be leaner! Maybe I don't belong in this thread... :-[
Quote from: Joe_Campbell on June 13, 2009, 04:26:41 PM
Don't worry. I'm no believer in the BMI, and I am lean. I just want to be leaner! Maybe I don't belong in this thread... :-[
You should start a new thread called "Skinny Continuers."
Another 1 1/2.
268 :)
Hi guys. I'm a small guy, 160cm (5'3''), and the lowest I've weighed in recent times has been 55kg (121 pounds), which is quite good. Right now, however, I weigh around 70kg (154 pounds). I think I'll start dieting and exercising tomorrow, but it's harder to do so in autumn/winter (especially the exercising part: I'm just so lazy when it's cold!)!
I'll be happy if I can get down to 57kg (126 pounds) or so.
What I did to reach 55kg last time was basically:
- Not eat anything between breakfast and lunch
- Not eat meat in dinner
- Not mix carbohidrates with meat in a single meal. So I would eat meat loaf with vegetables, or pasta with tomato sauce, etc.
- Not eat crap. I.e. fast food, big amounts of chocolate, cookies or basically anything that's tasty on this world
- Drink ca. 2 litres of water per day
- Go to the gym as often as possible
I think that was it. So basically I'd have four meals per day (breakfast, lunch, afternoon snack and dinner). It wasn't a crazy diet, and it was easy for me to follow it back then, but I seem to have lost the drive...
Good luck, 'nuki. We're all rooting for you.
When I smoked and drank (more), I was skinny. Something for the smoke-enders to watch out for. ;D
Quote from: tanuki on June 14, 2009, 04:23:17 AM
Hi guys. I'm a small guy, 160cm (5'3''), and the lowest I've weighed in recent times has been 55kg (121 pounds), which is quite good. Right now, however, I weigh around 70kg (154 pounds). I think I'll start dieting and exercising tomorrow, but it's harder to do so in autumn/winter (especially the exercising part: I'm just so lazy when it's cold!)!
I'll be happy if I can get down to 57kg (126 pounds) or so.
What I did to reach 55kg last time was basically:
- Not eat anything between breakfast and lunch
- Not eat meat in dinner
- Not mix carbohidrates with meat in a single meal. So I would eat meat loaf with vegetables, or pasta with tomato sauce, etc.
- Not eat crap. I.e. fast food, big amounts of chocolate, cookies or basically anything that's tasty on this world
- Drink ca. 2 litres of water per day
- Go to the gym as often as possible
I think that was it. So basically I'd have four meals per day (breakfast, lunch, afternoon snack and dinner). It wasn't a crazy diet, and it was easy for me to follow it back then, but I seem to have lost the drive...
To succeed, I believe one has to change their eating habits
permanently.
Quote from: MN Dave on June 14, 2009, 04:40:18 AM
To succeed, I believe one has to change their eating habits permanently.
I know. I thought I had it back then: I loved the energy I felt throughout the day from having an emptier stomach. I specially loved how light I felt on the morning, because of the light dinner I'd had the night before. It's AMAZING how your eating habits affect your mood and energy levels.
It was all fine and dandy, but slowly my old habits came creeping back. Before I knew I was eating at any time on the day, eating crap all the time, etc. I guess it's like a vice.
Quote from: tanuki on June 14, 2009, 04:48:32 AM
Before I knew I was eating at any time on the day, eating crap all the time, etc. I guess it's like a vice.
Yep. :-\
Quote from: tanuki on June 14, 2009, 04:48:32 AM
I know. I thought I had it back then: I loved the energy I felt throughout the day from having an emptier stomach. I specially loved how light I felt on the morning, because of the light dinner I'd had the night before. It's AMAZING how your eating habits affect your mood and energy levels.
It was all fine and dandy, but slowly my old habits came creeping back. Before I knew I was eating at any time on the day, eating crap all the time, etc. I guess it's like a vice.
If you've recognized the connection between mood and diet, isn't it stupid to eat anything that is going to bring your mood down, even if it gives you some satisfaction for a few minutes? You might enjoy a donut for the 5 minutes while you eat it, but its going to raise your blood sugar, your body will make insulin, the insulin will store the sugar lowering your blood sugar, and you'll want to jump off the golden gate bridge. And when you do, the donut will also make it easier to sink...
Also, you won't get sick on a good diet.
Quote from: Brian on June 13, 2009, 07:39:33 PM
You should start a new thread called "Skinny Continuers."
I just might! ;D
Quote from: Mozart on June 14, 2009, 07:12:47 AM
...the donut will also make it easier to sink...
See, not so many people take into consideration critical details like that... ;D
Quote from: tanuki on June 14, 2009, 04:23:17 AM
Hi guys. I'm a small guy, 160cm (5'3''), and the lowest I've weighed in recent times has been 55kg (121 pounds), which is quite good. Right now, however, I weigh around 70kg (154 pounds). I think I'll start dieting and exercising tomorrow, but it's harder to do so in autumn/winter (especially the exercising part: I'm just so lazy when it's cold!)!
I'll be happy if I can get down to 57kg (126 pounds) or so.
What I did to reach 55kg last time was basically:
- Not eat anything between breakfast and lunch
The body was not originally designed to do three square meals a day and it still isn't. In the time well before cities and supermarkets and the next meal couldn't be guaranteed a human being ate what they could, when they could. They knew that famine might quickly follow feast so it was no problem to eat as much as they could in one single sitting. What wasn't converted for energy requirements was converted as stored fat which could be used in times of hunger. After every hungry time when food became more abundant again, there was a corresponding speed up in fat storage to replace what had been lost. The trigger for this was a drop in calorie intake followed by a sudden increase. This trigger is still evident in the majority of mammals today - including us.
When you diet by suddenly dropping the calories this trigger comes into play and as soon as you drop the diet the fat uptake increases so you can end up weighing even more than you did before you started and this can happen very quickly. I remember my sister dieting for two months to lose weight to fit into a bridesmaids dress. After the wedding she put the weight back on plus some more in just over two weeks. The trigger in the brain saw the diet as famine and as soon as the feast arrived it took steps to replenish the storehouse.
So what MN Dave said is absolutely right. Once you change your eating habits you need to make it permanent.[/list]
Daily weigh-in: 267.5 :)
I usually eat microwave stuff for lunch at work, but from now on I'm going to try bread, nuts, cheese and fruit instead; like I think Holden mentioned: food that doesn't come in packaging.
Quote from: MN Dave on June 15, 2009, 12:36:22 PM
I usually eat microwave stuff for lunch at work, but from now on I'm going to try bread, nuts, cheese and fruit instead; like I think Holden mentioned: food that doesn't come in packaging.
Even building your own sandwich is better than microwave stuff, yeah. Last summer at Wal-Mart I divided my lunches between these gigantic $4 microwaveable "Southwest style" sandwiches that were 700 calories each, and homemade food. Definite difference. :P
I like turkey (they have good spicy turkey at most groceries), lettuce, white onions, some sort of subtle cheese, and fancy-pants mustard on whole wheat bread. :)
Quote from: Brian on June 15, 2009, 01:02:55 PM
Even building your own sandwich is better than microwave stuff, yeah. Last summer at Wal-Mart I divided my lunches between these gigantic $4 microwaveable "Southwest style" sandwiches that were 700 calories each, and homemade food. Definite difference. :P
I like turkey (they have good spicy turkey at most groceries), lettuce, white onions, some sort of subtle cheese, and fancy-pants mustard on whole wheat bread. :)
I'd eat that if you held the onions.
Quote from: MN Dave on June 15, 2009, 01:24:01 PM
I'd eat that if you held the onions.
No you wouldn't, because you're dieting! $:)
Quote from: Joe_Campbell on June 15, 2009, 01:40:29 PM
No you wouldn't, because you're dieting! $:)
You have to eat something, hoss.
Quote from: MN Dave on June 15, 2009, 01:46:33 PM
You have to eat something, hoss.
Don't hassle the 'ho[ss]ff. ;)
Quote from: MN Dave on June 15, 2009, 12:36:22 PM
I usually eat microwave stuff for lunch at work, but from now on I'm going to try bread, nuts, cheese and fruit instead; like I think Holden mentioned: food that doesn't come in packaging.
Fruits in the morning my friend, on empty stomach. Not too much bread I hope! The combination of foods is just as important for good digestion. Have you been chewing more?
Quote from: Mozart on June 15, 2009, 02:45:23 PM
Fruits in the morning my friend, on empty stomach. Not too much bread I hope! The combination of foods is just as important for good digestion. Have you been chewing more?
Yes, I just had dinner and made sure I chewed it well. I have a bad habit of wolfing my food so the extra chewing helps a lot.
So, if I have a beer or cocktail, I starve that day? :-\
I was under the impression that beer is quite fattening, so limiting it might be a good idea. But as Holden says, don't starve yourself - consider it as your weekly "treat" or something
Sounds good. :)
Morning weigh-in: 268
Bounced up a bit. :P
Quote from: Keemun on June 12, 2009, 05:53:45 PM
I too have this problem, however I can't say I'm motivated to jump on board this thread at the moment. :-\ So for now I'll be a bystander, contemplating whether or not I should try (once again) to lose weight. Perhaps I'll feel differently tomorrow. :)
This is me as well. I really don't need any more stress (read: diet) at the moment, but I know that my overall mood (and waistline, and blood pressure) would improve if I ate better.
I'll dip a toe in by trying to switch to a healthy lunch. I'm not a big breakfast person, and my dinners at home tend to be somewhat light, so lunch is my opportunity to eat whatever I like without the spouse giving me the hairy eyeball, plus it's a way to get out of the office and relax for a bit in the middle of the day. I shall try switching an apple for those fried Chinese dumplings, and walking whilst consuming it -- see how it goes... maybe I'll try an audiobook on my iPod, and enjoy the susnshine.
Quote from: jwinter on June 16, 2009, 05:22:50 AM
... maybe I'll try an audiobook on my iPod, and enjoy the susnshine.
Benjamin Franklin's autobiography?
I seem to have gone up a half-pound, to 166. Drat!
Quote from: Brian on June 16, 2009, 10:14:24 AM
I seem to have gone up a half-pound, to 166. Drat!
Me too. Must be the weather.
Quote from: MN Dave on June 16, 2009, 10:14:57 AM
Me too. Must be the weather.
As I said in my first post, don't judge your weight loss by actually weighing yourself. The variables are too numerous to count. Just go for it, BE PATIENT, and watch what happens to your waist line! This is a far more positive and accurate way of judging your progress.
I'm addicted to the scale, man. 8) And that's what the doctor goes by. :-\
Down a pound: 267
Way to go, Dave!
Keep shedding 'em, Dave!
Thanks. It's easy to lose at the beginning when you weigh as much as I do. Then you hit plateaus along the way/weigh :), but you just have to be patient.
My wife also read that using the scale helps keep you on track.
I was on the treadmill yesterday, grooving to Devo's FREEDOM OF CHOICE. I can't workout to classical so I listen to the old favorites and it helps the time speed by.
Excellent Devolutionary application, sir!
(http://www.trakmarx.com/2007_03/d/d-e_d-1980-720.jpg)
Was 220
Now 217
Quote from: MN Dave on June 12, 2009, 10:16:17 AM
Let's lose weight.
We can post our weights here every day (or nearly), give each other support and advice. Kind of like the smoke-enders thread for fat guys.
Unless I'm the only guy here with this problem. >:(
Can girls play? But of course, the two numbers a lady never divulges are her age and, you guessed it, her weight. ;D Let's just say I'd like to weigh 40 to 50 pounds less than I do now. I'll report on weight lost (or, perish the thought, gained) from today. Come to think of it, I wouldn't mind being a few years younger, either. . . is there a thread for that?
That's about what I have to lose, so welcome.
Further incentive for me: My wife said for every three pounds, I get a $15 iTunes card.
Quote from: secondwind on June 17, 2009, 10:17:05 AM
Can girls play? But of course, the two numbers a lady never divulges are her age and, you guessed it, her weight. ;D Let's just say I'd like to weigh 40 to 50 pounds less than I do now. I'll report on weight lost (or, perish the thought, gained) from today. Come to think of it, I wouldn't mind being a few years younger, either. . . is there a thread for that?
Just count from 50 back to zero so no one will know.
Went for a walk/jog before dinner. No music. More stamina today.
Getting stronger...
I'm getting mad at it! ;D
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You go, Dave!
Another pound and a half today.
265.5 8)
Quote from: Holden on June 17, 2009, 12:05:27 PM
Just count from 50 back to zero so no one will know.
Okay, I'm going out to run now. No music, just the mantra I'll be saying to myself--"50, 49, 48,47, 46, 45, 44, . . . ." I need at least to match yesterday's 15 minutes. I thought I would die before I got to the end of the block, but since I didn't die, I turned the corner and tried to make it to the tennis courts at the school. Still alive at the tennis courts, I ran past the school and headed for Monroe Street. Amazed to be still alive at Monroe, I turned back up the hill (who knew there was a hill there?) and headed for home. Gasping but still running, I took the final turn for home and ran (if you can call my slow dog trot a run) up to the house. A very long 15 minutes.
Quote from: secondwind on June 18, 2009, 04:46:00 AM
Okay, I'm going out to run now. No music, just the mantra I'll be saying to myself--"50, 49, 48,47, 46, 45, 44, . . . ." I need at least to match yesterday's 15 minutes. I thought I would die before I got to the end of the block, but since I didn't die, I turned the corner and tried to make it to the tennis courts at the school. Still alive at the tennis courts, I ran past the school and headed for Monroe Street. Amazed to be still alive at Monroe, I turned back up the hill (who knew there was a hill there?) and headed for home. Gasping but still running, I took the final turn for home and ran (if you can call my slow dog trot a run) up to the house. A very long 15 minutes.
Do you walk as well?
Luckily, we have an exercise path nearby. To walk the distance I've chosen takes around 50 minutes or so, but I'm starting to jog a little--slowly, carefully; I don't want my bulk to ruin my ankles just when I'm getting started. I jogged for less than half of it yesterday. But for me, that's pretty good.
Quote from: MN Dave on June 18, 2009, 05:02:00 AM
Do you walk as well?
Luckily, we have an exercise path nearby. To walk the distance I've chosen takes around 50 minutes or so, but I'm starting to jog a little--slowly, carefully; I don't want my bulk to ruin my ankles just when I'm getting started. I jogged for less than half of it yesterday. But for me, that's pretty good.
Keep it up, Dave. The walk/run thing is catching on in many circles....my wife had this out for me to read a couple weeks ago:
Better Running Through Walkinghttp://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/02/health/02well.html?_r=1&scp=2&sq=walking&st=cse
Thanks. I'm ahead of my time. ;D
Well done, Bill & Dave!
What's your height, you gents? We don't have a scale at home . . . but I have noted a reduction in waist size over the past year.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 18, 2009, 06:34:14 AM
Well done, Bill & Dave!
What's your height, you gents? We don't have a scale at home . . . but I have noted a reduction in waist size over the past year.
5'11" when I played hoops. but probably closer to 5'10" now.....gravity can be cruel.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 18, 2009, 06:34:14 AM
Well done, Bill & Dave!
What's your height, you gents? We don't have a scale at home . . . but I have noted a reduction in waist size over the past year.
6'5"
Quote from: Bogey on June 18, 2009, 06:35:13 AM
5'11" when I played hoops. but probably closer to 5'10" now.....gravity can be cruel.
I'm a bit taller first thing in the morning, too ;)
Quote from: MN Dave on June 18, 2009, 06:35:30 AM
6'5"
Crikey, you're John Cleese!
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 18, 2009, 06:34:14 AM
Well done, Bill & Dave!
but I have noted a reduction in waist size over the past year.
That is the actual "key",
It's all in my belly. Well, most of it... I'm an "apple".
My commute always involves a bit of walking, and walks are indeed my chief form of exercise.
My mom-in-law helps me out with a monthly buckwheat 'diet'. For a stretch of 7-10 days each month, essentially all oils/fat is cut out of my intake; mom furnishes an ample volume of cooked buckwheat (basically just add heat and water), and shredded cabbage, and maybe a little bit of cranberry sauce added to the cabbage. I can eat as much of this as I wish at a meal, so there are no hunger pangs; at any rate, I do not find it at all onerous. And over time, I find it is indeed making a difference.
Sounds good. A healthy way of life and one to which you're acclimated.
I've read that article on walk-running, and I'll try adding some walking to extend my distance. I doubt that I'll ever catch up with my marathon-running younger brother, but who know? Sibling rivalry is a powerful force!
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 18, 2009, 06:44:22 AM
For a stretch of 7-10 days each month, essentially all oils/fat is cut out of my intake; mom furnishes an ample volume of cooked buckwheat (basically just add heat and water), and shredded cabbage, and maybe a little bit of cranberry sauce added to the cabbage.
Oh, and an apple a day.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 18, 2009, 06:44:22 AM
My commute always involves a bit of walking, and walks are indeed my chief form of exercise.
My mom-in-law helps me out with a monthly buckwheat 'diet'. For a stretch of 7-10 days each month, essentially all oils/fat is cut out of my intake; mom furnishes an ample volume of cooked buckwheat (basically just add heat and water), and shredded cabbage, and maybe a little bit of cranberry sauce added to the cabbage. I can eat as much of this as I wish at a meal, so there are no hunger pangs; at any rate, I do not find it at all onerous. And over time, I find it is indeed making a difference.
Now
that is what I call a highway!
Quote from: Bogey on June 17, 2009, 08:48:00 AM
Was 220
Now 217
Have to report the good with the bad:
Was 217
Back up to 218.5
There are always fluctuations. Keep 'er trending down, Bill!
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 18, 2009, 08:50:29 AM
There are always fluctuations. Keep 'er trending down, Bill!
We'll do!
Had a good workout yesterday yet bounced up half a pound.
But 6 pounds lost in one week? I'll take it.
266
Quote from: MN Dave on June 19, 2009, 04:38:06 AM
Had a good workout yesterday yet bounced up half a pound.
But 6 pounds lost in one week? I'll take it.
266
Awesome Dave! You're probably building muscle, that's why you went up a bit.
No doubt. I'll keep on truckin'...
Buona fortuna!
Thanks. I think.
Back from the run/walk. Adding a walk after my first 15 minutes of running, I went on another loop of alternating running and walking and extended my time to 40 minutes total. Now to finish breaking in the new Brita filter for the gallons of water I'll be drinking ::)
Nothing wrong with all the hydration!
Quote from: secondwind on June 19, 2009, 06:15:37 AM
Back from the run/walk. Adding a walk after my first 15 minutes of running, I went on another loop of alternating running and walking and extended my time to 40 minutes total. Now to finish breaking in the new Brita filter for the gallons of water I'll be drinking ::)
That's great! Perfect, I think. Keep on moving and keep that water flowing...
I can probably log at least another 1/2 mile in sprints to the loo! ;D
Quote from: secondwind on June 19, 2009, 06:19:22 AM
I can probably log at least another 1/2 mile in sprints to the loo! ;D
Yep. That's a part of your new lifestyle. ;D
Back down to 216.5
G'day, Bill!
Advice: eat quality food. That gives much satisfaction eating just a little from it and prevents you from eating too much of inferior food. A favourite of mine is extra pure chocolate, containing 76% cacao. I don't need other candy, cookies etc.
Advice 2: drink much water. This will increase waste matter flowing out your body, which is essential for losing weight, they say.
Henk
I have a very light breakfast of coffee and cream each morning around 9 or 10....just not hungry in the morning so I do not eat.
Between 11-12 I have been having a full sized sandwich with either turkey or lean ham. I garnish it with slices of tomato and avacado. I have a sliced up apple with it.
Dinner is whatever we are having....I do not over eat, but do put enough in me to be plenty full.
As far as food between meals, all raw fruit and vegetables are allowed. No crapola.
Popcorn is a late evening treat, or a bowl of Cherrios. I know, I know. But us "Fifes" need our energy to get any sleep.
I also know my big meal should be earlier, but easier to cut back on the early eating. May mean I lose weight a bit slower, but I have a better chance of staying on my diet.
Didn't work out yesterday and gained half a pound. >:(
;)
Nice long walk today. Great weather.
I managed to squeeze in a shorter run/walk today--about 25 minutes. It was all I had time for between Parts B and C of my day--a brief exercise intermezzo. I told myself it was better than nothing. Maintaining consistency with daily exercise is going to be difficult. But maybe the three hours of pulling weeds this morning (in Part A of my day) counts too?
Diet will take some more conscious attention. I ate a cookie at a reception after a recital tonight before I even thought about it ??? and then a (very small) brownie after I did think about it >:D.
Another thing you can do is get a pedometer and, starting at 5,000 or 6,000, try to eventually get up to 10,000 steps a day. Aerobic or not...
264 :)
Well done!
Hello, team! I didn't manage a run yesterday :( (unless scurrying around a couple of shopping emporia counts! ;D) I did, however, buy a decent pair of running shoes, which I have now taken for their first run this morning :) I am continuing to slowly expand my route and the running portion thereof. Maybe tomorrow or Wednesday I'll head back to the gym for some strength exercises and a weigh-in. I hope I'll be able to count down a little from 50!
Back up .5. Must be muscle...
Quote from: secondwind on June 22, 2009, 03:49:15 AM
(unless scurrying around a couple of shopping emporia counts! ;D)
It counts more than sitting. :)
Keep it trending down, dude.
92 degrees in the MN humidity today. :P
I didn't run much and sweated like a peeeeeg. ;D
Back down to 264. Surprising since I had a big ol' steak last night. ;D
!!
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 23, 2009, 03:53:47 AM
!!
Yep. You can eat what you want as long as you plan for it.
I did the run/walk this morning--about 35 minutes today (down from 40 because I'm running more of it! ;D). I haven't weighed in yet, procrastinating seeing if there are any good results yet :-\. I'm inspired by your method, Dave, so I'm planning on a steak for lunch!
Quote from: secondwind on June 23, 2009, 07:57:48 AM
I did the run/walk this morning--about 35 minutes today (down from 40 because I'm running more of it! ;D). I haven't weighed in yet, procrastinating seeing if there are any good results yet :-\. I'm inspired by your method, Dave, so I'm planning on a steak for lunch!
Wow. Eat a light dinner then. And do weigh yourself, at least occasionally. ;D
Did I mention I try to stay under 1800 calories a day?
And don't go below 1200!
Quote from: MN Dave on June 23, 2009, 08:06:44 AM
Did I mention I try to stay under 1800 calories a day?
And don't go below 1200!
Provided your exercise regime matches up with your calorie intake. To few calories can have a deleterious affect on the body as I described in an earlier post. It's not necessarily how much you eat but what you eat which is why the steak is a good idea.
Yes, that steak cooked on the grill was excellent :). I'm counting on the running to rev up my metabolism and counteract the occasional calorie splurge.
Didn't work out yesterday. So I must pay:
265 - again... ;D
Quote from: Holden on June 23, 2009, 02:06:11 PM
Provided your exercise regime matches up with your calorie intake. To few calories can have a deleterious affect on the body as I described in an earlier post. It's not necessarily how much you eat but what you eat which is why the steak is a good idea.
Can't you eat whatever you want if you're reasonable about it?
I think I should just try to keep the clarinet in practice. When I'm practicing a lot, I tend to eat lighter than usual.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 24, 2009, 05:09:38 AM
I think I should just try to keep the clarinet in practice. When I'm practicing a lot, I tend to eat lighter than usual.
I like to play music. Too bad there is no time.
First week weigh in report:
Amount to lose--50, 49, 48
Those were the easy pounds to lose, though. I remember it gets harder after the first couple.
Note to self: Must run first thing in the morning. Waiting until 1 pm is a big mistake at the end of June. By July, it could be fatal. :o
The bad news: I leave Saturday for two weeks of traveling. Restaurant meals. Sitting around on various modes of transport. Tailor made for weight gain.
QuoteThe bad news: I leave Saturday for two weeks of traveling. Restaurant meals. Sitting around on various modes of transport. Tailor made for weight gain.
Keep doing your steps. Split restaurant meals. ;D
I've hit a wall: 265.5 today. Even after running a bit yesterday during my walk.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21655928/
Let me get this straight--maybe I can leap ahead 25 lb in the countdown? Which puts me at 23 now? Not back for 8 days!
Back from the run/walk. I also went to the gym with hubby this morning--early, he likes to be there when the doors open at 5:30 ???. I did some upper-body strength exercises there, since running and walking don't do much for upper body strength.
Don't be discouraged by the plateau, Dave. I hate them too, and I hate them even more in my playing than in weight loss. Work, work, work, and more work, and no progress. Occasionally, things actually get worse because I'm trying to focus on too many things at once and generally trying too hard. It is very discouraging, but eventually, sooner or later, there's a breakthrough to a new level.
Quote from: secondwind on June 25, 2009, 06:29:36 AM
Let me get this straight--maybe I can leap ahead 25 lb in the countdown? Which puts me at 23 now? Not back for 8 days!
Back from the run/walk. I also went to the gym with hubby this morning--early, he likes to be there when the doors open at 5:30 ???. I did some upper-body strength exercises there, since running and walking don't do much for upper body strength.
Don't be discouraged by the plateau, Dave. I hate them too, and I hate them even more in my playing than in weight loss. Work, work, work, and more work, and no progress. Occasionally, things actually get worse because I'm trying to focus on too many things at once and generally trying too hard. It is very discouraging, but eventually, sooner or later, there's a breakthrough to a new level.
Thanks for the encouragement. But don't worry; I'm still mad at it. This plateau is going DOWN! ;D
Dave, maybe it would be better to not look at the scale every day, but only once a week, max?
Quote from: ChamberNut on June 25, 2009, 09:25:05 AM
Dave, maybe it would be better to not look at the scale every day, but only once a week, max?
Yeah. I was thinking the same thing this morning. But I like to give myself a hard time. ;D
Quote from: MN Dave on June 25, 2009, 09:25:52 AM
But I like to give myself a hard time. ;D
Well then.....carry on dude! ;D
Quote from: ChamberNut on June 25, 2009, 09:25:05 AM
Dave, maybe it would be better to not look at the scale every day, but only once a week, max?
As I said in my first post, measuring yourself using the scales is not a good way of doing it because of all the variables involved. Stay off the scales (they probably aren't too accurate anyway), carry on as you are and then sigh with satisfaction when you realise that the belt you've been wearing has to come in at least one notch.
Quote from: Holden on June 25, 2009, 02:45:52 PM
As I said in my first post, measuring yourself using the scales is not a good way of doing it because of all the variables involved. Stay off the scales (they probably aren't too accurate anyway), carry on as you are and then sigh with satisfaction when you realise that the belt you've been wearing has to come in at least one notch.
By now it's a habit, so what the hell. It's not going to affect the other stuff I'm doing.
My 2c:
Sell your car.
Seriously.
I have not used a car for my own purposes since the early 1990's. As a family, we do own a car and use it on family outings, but for my work commutes, shopping and generally getting from A to D, I ride a bike or walk. Rain, hail or shine. And lately, snow.
I am encouraging my kids to do the same. We ride to school every day, about 1km, but a good effort for my kids aged 5, 7 and 9. Of course, we have to dodge the minivans delivering fat kids.
The beauty of this system is that I don't have to force myself to exercise at a gym or any other artificial kilojoule burning establishment. (translation for our US friends: kilojoule is the metric term for energy). Burning energy is part of normal daily life. My kids are voracious eaters, and are also very slim.
The other big advantage is that I burn so much energy by not using a car that I can eat anything, any time and stay slim. And I love my food. I've been 74kg (translation for our very few non-metric nations - Burma, Liberia and USA: 163 pounds) and 183 cm (translation: 6 foot) ever since I can remember.
Now modern society does not make it easy - we have managed to set up our cities, and especially our suburbs so that it is very difficult to live without a car. It is no coincidence that the rise of suburbia has matched the increase in obesity in USA/Canada/Australia. Notice that Europe, with its high petrol prices and better civic design, does not have as big a problem with obesity.
Difficult, but not impossible. If you choose your city (and I do) and choose which part of the city to live in, you can live, work and play without using a car for the bulk of your activities.
As I said, my 2c.
cheers
Rob
I know it's true--getting rid of the car would get rid of the extra pounds. Some years ago I lived in the Netherlands for a year and a half, didn't have a car, and walked or biked everywhere I went. When I moved back to the US, I couldn't understand why I started gaining weight, until I thought about the exercise level I had maintained in the Netherlands and how it dropped to zero when I returned to the automotive lifestyle. Sad but true. :(
Yeah, when I didn't own a car, I was skinny. Of course, I smoked and drank a lot then too.
One thing to keep in mind, Dave, is this: one pound of fat contains about 3500 calories. In order to burn that off, you'd have to run/walk about 35 miles. I'm not saying this to discourage you but to keep you realistic in your expectations of what will actually be quantifiable in your quest to lose weight.
I strongly agree with the suggestion that you shouldn't look at the scale every day. Weighing less may be the goal, but my guess is you're ultimately trying to change your lifestyle so that you can sustain a healthy body type, instead of just stopping the weight_reduction_activities once your goal is met.
With this in mind, the small changes you make to your lifestyle will most definitely add up: walking/running/biking instead of driving, less/no fast food, less TV, etc...but they won't happen overnight. This can be the most frustrating part about anything that requires discipline and dedication - the lack of immediate results. I assure you, however, that if you continue to live according to the goal you've set for yourself, the weight will come off, regardless of whether or not you're looking at the scale. :)
Okay, I took the weight part off my signature. Doesn't mean I won't weigh myself... :)
Quote from: MN Dave on June 26, 2009, 05:06:00 AM
Okay, I took the weight part off my signature. Doesn't mean I won't weigh myself... :)
I'm looking forward to the new avatar.
Quote from: Holden on June 26, 2009, 01:57:13 PM
I'm looking forward to the new avatar.
Ha. Thanks. Don't hold your breath though. ;)
Good morning fat enders. I'm off to find a part of the hotel I've never visited before -- the fitness room! The bad news -- my left knee is stiffening up badly after a week of running, so daily running may not be an option.
Do you actually run? Maybe you should walk instead. Or a light jog. I know running is serious stuff, so be careful.
Dog-trot is about what I do, the gait of a very hot, tired, old dog in no particular hurry. I did 2 miles on the treadmill today, a mile and a half of it "running". The knee actually felt better at the end than at the beginning, so maybe it was the day of not running and sitting on airplanes that caused the problem. :D
Sometimes you can run that stuff out.
I just read that your waist size should be less than half your height.
I've lost significant weight and from my experience I can say what works and what doesn't--
What doesn't work-- calorie counting to force rapid weight loss. Yeah you do lose the weight. But if you buckle? Boom! You bounce back to your old weight very fast. Your metabolism is geared towards your current weight, pushing it to be at a different weight doesn't happen over night, and if you want your weight loss to be permanent it needs to be something that you don't even think about. This can be made worse by constantly weighing yourself.
What does work-- eating less by cooking food instead of eating fast food and junk. When you eat food you cooked yourself including veggies you end up eating alot by volume, but significantly less by calories. You need to not feel hungry, you need it to work. Usually when you're doing it right you only lose at most 2 lbs a week. It shouldn't be a mission, it should be a lifestyle change. Don't even bother weighing yourself. Gradually being able to tighten up your buckle and see yourself look thinner in the mirror is reward enough.
Noted. I think a lot of people have been saying that.
I am working on the lifestyle changes. Restaurant breakfast--mixed fresh fruit, yes; pancakes with butter and syrup, no!
Quote
Yes. Mindful choices are the way to go. :)
Just got back from vacation. I ate a ton of really, really good food. NOT looking forward to getting on the scale :( :(
Quote from: secondwind on June 28, 2009, 06:47:10 AM
Dog-trot is about what I do, the gait of a very hot, tired, old dog in no particular hurry.
When I do a running class with students I call this the 'Granny Shuffle' (no offence intended). It's all about exerting yourself in a manner that doesn't put too much stress on the joints but will easily work up a sweat. You can run a long way with this - it just takes longer!
263, a new low...
(I know, I know, but the scale is such a temptation...)
What I hate about walking now (thinking of Holden's post) is that it's so blazing hot!! I'm starting to get up earlier so maybe I'll eventually get up early enough that I could go on a walk without the heat.
Quote from: DavidW on July 02, 2009, 07:21:46 AM
What I hate about walking now (thinking of Holden's post) is that it's so blazing hot!! I'm starting to get up earlier so maybe I'll eventually get up early enough that I could go on a walk without the heat.
Here in Texas I mowed the lawn at 9am to beat the 103 degrees...but it was 98 by the time I finished.
168 btw. That vacation was seriously unhealthy for me.
In this unseasonable weather, we here in Boston have forgotten what "heat" is.
Thread duty:
Went for a swim today.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 03, 2009, 03:55:47 PM
In this unseasonable weather, we here in Boston have forgotten what "heat" is.
We here in Texas would gladly send you 15 degrees or so.
So you people loosing weight, what have you been eating?
Quote from: Mozart on July 03, 2009, 07:17:31 PM
So you people loosing weight, what have you been eating?
Less! :D
Oh okay: I chose a meat, bread it, bake or fry it and have veggies and taters for dinner. For lunch it's a sandwich, chips, apple or banana and sometimes a rice pudding. For breakfast I eat cereal or oatmeal. See just normal food, very simple just less caloric than fast food. No gimmick, no tricks just eat less.
Quote from: Mozart on July 03, 2009, 07:17:31 PM
So you people loosing weight, what have you been eating?
No secret really... Humans do best on a predominantly
complex carbohydrate diet (fruits and vegetables, along with barley, oats, lentils, other legumes, nuts and seeds. And of course seafood a couple times a week. Extra virgin olive and sunflower oil should be your cooking oils..
That's about it... :)
Quote from: The Unrepentant Pelleastrian on July 03, 2009, 07:46:22 PM
No secret really... Humans do best on a predominantly complex carbohydrate diet (fruits and vegetables, along with barley, oats, lentils, other legumes, nuts and seeds. And of course seafood a couple times a week. Extra virgin olive and sunflower oil should be your cooking oils..
That's about it... :)
I'd ramp up the protein a bit, but this is pretty good advice. Fish oils are very healthy (not all fat is bad fat).
Quote from: The Unrepentant Pelleastrian on July 03, 2009, 07:46:22 PM
No secret really... Humans do best on a predominantly complex carbohydrate diet (fruits and vegetables, along with barley, oats, lentils, other legumes, nuts and seeds. And of course seafood a couple times a week. Extra virgin olive and sunflower oil should be your cooking oils..
That's about it... :)
If you strike the "extra virgin" I'm cool with that. Olive oil adds a nice flavor for cooking, but extra virgin is a bit dominating (and expensive!) for every day cooking.
Quote from: Brian on July 03, 2009, 02:58:32 PM
Here in Texas I mowed the lawn at 9am to beat the 103 degrees...but it was 98 by the time I finished.
168 btw. That vacation was seriously unhealthy for me.
Our family lived in Little Rock for 3 years. Every time the lawn needed to be mowed, I always wondered why someone didn't put headlights on lawnmower. Then one could mow in the dark - a lot cooler! If anyone swipes my idea, I want 10%. ;D
Quote from: DavidW on July 03, 2009, 10:41:53 PM
If you strike the "extra virgin" I'm cool with that. Olive oil adds a nice flavor for cooking, but extra virgin is a bit dominating (and expensive!) for every day cooking.
Oh yeah duh, I just remembered that one of my parental units warned me about using extra virgin olive oil for frying or baking-- DANGER WILL ROBINSON! it has a low smoke point.
I've been trying to eat healthier but I pretty much eat what I want, only less of it.
The last time I weighed myself I was at 263, down from 272 over the last couple weeks.
Congrats dude! :) 272 was where I had started.
Quote from: DavidW on July 04, 2009, 07:09:05 AM
Congrats dude! :) 272 was where I had started.
Thanks.
Quote from: DavidW on July 02, 2009, 07:21:46 AM
What I hate about walking now (thinking of Holden's post) is that it's so blazing hot!! I'm starting to get up earlier so maybe I'll eventually get up early enough that I could go on a walk without the heat.
I'm having the same problem too. I'm feeling so disinclined even to go outside in the heat, let alone exercise. Does anyone have any tips for getting motivated in 30+ weather?
Quote from: MN Dave on July 04, 2009, 04:16:34 AM
The last time I weighed myself I was at 263, down from 272 over the last couple weeks.
Good stuff!
Quote from: Novi on July 04, 2009, 05:46:08 PM
I'm having the same problem too. I'm feeling so disinclined even to go outside in the heat, let alone exercise. Does anyone have any tips for getting motivated in 30+ weather?
Good stuff!
I'm working on getting up earlier while it's still cool. I don't know if it would help for you, but here in Oklahoma it does get down to the low 70s, even when the highs are in the 90s. Just look up when dawn is and start setting your clock half an hour back each day until you get there, that's what I'm doing. ;D
All you guys quite posting so I assume you've quit loosing?
Last year at this time I weighed a good 215-225 pounds. I weighed myself in may and I was 176...I was shocked! But since then I've felt like I put weight on. So I told myself my goal was to be 160 by the end of August...I weighed myself today and guess what? I've lost 10 pounds even. 166 pounds, and thats with shoes and clothes on. Maybe I'll go down to 155 then by august and then try to put some muscle on. You know Im quite surprised because I still have a belly...Im certainly lighter but I've still some fat to loose. I suppose I should be proud of myself though.
That's incredible! I hope you're not really tall, though...
Nah. I quit posting because I didn't want to bore everyone.
Quote from: Joe_Campbell on July 10, 2009, 05:30:19 PM
That's incredible! I hope you're not really tall, though...
Im about 180 cms i guess, 5 ft 11 or 6 ft.
To be honest I've done little different. I added good fats into my diet...less processed crap...i eat alot some days...its not so hard once you avoid modern junk!
My BMI says 23.1, once it was like 27. I didnt stay so heavy for long, my average weight was 190 sometimes up to 200 sometimes down to 185 but average 190 or 195. In 10th grade i was 180 but with muscles.
My height weight chart says i should weigh 143 minimum (if i have a small frame?) but my waist is still 34 inches or so. ill check tomorrow my waist size. my pants certainly dont fit without a belt anymore, and ive dropped 3 notches. Has to be at least 2 inches right? I was lazy and went out yesterday without a belt to buy water and my pants fell :) I didnt know if to be embarrassed or proud.
Quote from: MN Dave on July 10, 2009, 06:07:55 PM
Nah. I quit posting because I didn't want to bore everyone.
Dave! If you bored us, we would just scroll down. But you don't bore us. As a matter of fact ... I think you're trying to get out of reporting your progress. Hiding something? >:D >:D >:D
( ;) 0:) )
Hello fat enders!
I'm back from a two week vacation full of restaurant food and lots of sitting (on planes, trains, buses, boats, taxis, dog sleds--well, okay, no dog sleds). I'll have to weigh myself to assess the damage some time this week, but I think I'll put it off as long as possible. And start regular, organized exercise again. Something more than stepping onto or off of the vehicle du jour.
Mozart, two things: 1. You should be proud of your weight loss. 2. You need to buy some new pants! ;D Please, I see enough guys around here with their pants falling off. Don't join that club! :o
Yes in due time, when there is money to spend :)
Quote from: Brian on July 10, 2009, 09:27:15 PM
Dave! If you bored us, we would just scroll down. But you don't bore us. As a matter of fact ... I think you're trying to get out of reporting your progress. Hiding something? >:D >:D >:D
( ;) 0:) )
Nah. Holding at 263.5...
Hello MN Dave, Mozart, David W, et al.,
Trying to get back to the exercise routine, I've returned from a short neighborhood jog, squeezed in before work (and before the heat of the day). Weigh in later this week. . . maybe much later. . . ::)
Quote from: DavidW on July 04, 2009, 07:45:13 PM
I'm working on getting up earlier while it's still cool. I don't know if it would help for you, but here in Oklahoma it does get down to the low 70s, even when the highs are in the 90s. Just look up when dawn is and start setting your clock half an hour back each day until you get there, that's what I'm doing. ;D
Hey, thanks
DavidW. :) I kind of took your advice; not being a dawn kind of person, I've been heading out after sunset. The sun's gone, but it's still a muggy 30C at 8 pm. I'm wrecked after every run. :-\
Went for a swim yesterday.
Biked up a large hill the other day. Excruciating!
(http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs149.snc1/5535_222194215071_545315071_7731956_3713194_n.jpg)
You can see a bit of it just below the pond in the photo.
Quote from: Novi on July 14, 2009, 05:25:02 AM
Hey, thanks DavidW. :) I kind of took your advice; not being a dawn kind of person, I've been heading out after sunset. The sun's gone, but it's still a muggy 30C at 8 pm. I'm wrecked after every run. :-\
Yeah that's actually the hottest part of the day! It's only a few degrees less than the high. You see it only begins cooling a little before sunset. It doesn't reach the coolest part until dawn.
Novi, if you don't like the pesky morning, perhaps you should try swimming because then you'll be in the cool water. :)
Just back from the morning slow-motion jog/shuffle around the neighborhood. I hate to admit it, being something of a night owl myself, but morning really is the best time for this exercise stuff. Not only is morning much cooler than any other time, but I've read that morning exercise can "reset" your metabolism to a higher level, so you have more energy and expend more calories doing the rest of the normal activities you do all day. :) I just wish I got a view like Joe's at the end of my exertions!
Not to torment y'all . . . beautiful morning here in Boston, lovely brisk walks (a) to the bus, (b) from the Old State House to the office, and then (c) a short jaunt for some coffee.
I bought some wheat germ yesterday, 59 cents a pound! Dumped some into my oatmeal, it doesn't taste like anything. But apparently its extremely nutritious, extra boost of protein and fiber and many nutrients. I don't see any reason for all of you loosing weight not to go buy some.
Wheat germ is great stuff!
I also bought a scale...it's interesting to see how my weight fluctuates even within a day. I weighed 166 last week and now I'm generally around 168 but sometimes can be 170. I guess I should just take the average.
I noticed that since its hot, I don't feel like eating much. I was planning to make pasta today for dinner, beans for lunch, oatmeal for breakfast, and fruits before that, but I'd feel like a bubble. I'll just do the fruits for lunch and beans for dinner, and even that might feel like much.
Also one more comment, I went to mcdonalds yesterday, not to eat but to accompany some people who couldn't be convinced to eat somewhere else. I once had such strong cravings for that junk, but now even the smell was repulsive. Not even because I think its bad, it just smells awful once I stopped eating it. I don't think I imagined it or anything like that, I just don't think anyone who wasn't particularly raised with it or eat it often would enjoy the taste.
Quote from: Mozart on July 15, 2009, 07:20:55 AM
I also bought a scale...it's interesting to see how my weight fluctuates even within a day. I weighed 166 last week and now I'm generally around 168 but sometimes can be 170. I guess I should just take the average.
I've heard that if you weigh yourself frequently to monitor your weight, you should weigh yourself at the same time of day to minimize the effects of these normal weight fluctuations.
Quote from: secondwind on July 15, 2009, 10:27:44 AM
I've heard that if you weigh yourself frequently to monitor your weight, you should weigh yourself at the same time of day to minimize the effects of these normal weight fluctuations.
Well I still find it interesting :) I was 166 and I can be 170? 166 was obviously a low and 170 a high but its a big fluctuation!
Anyways my weight is just a number...I use the mirror to track my progress more than a scale. It's just another way.
Well I want to ask you a question guys and gals. If you dont feel hungry, is there any good reason to eat? What if it takes a day or two until you feel hungry again?
For example when someone is sick, generally they don't have a big appetite. And I was always told to eat to build strength, but it seems like nonsense when I think about it. Why eat if I have no desire for food?
I seem to have leveled off at 167 - have been there for a little over a week. Disappointing, as my goal for August 14 is 157.
Quote from: Brian on July 15, 2009, 08:01:00 PM
I seem to have leveled off at 167 - have been there for a little over a week. Disappointing, as my goal for August 14 is 157.
Any reason why that date? My goal for Aug 31 is to be about 160, maybe its to low. 1 pound a week is about 160 for me by then. If I could be 155 then I'd be super thin, and I could put one some muscle :)
Quote from: Mozart on July 15, 2009, 08:07:46 PM
Any reason why that date? My goal for Aug 31 is to be about 160, maybe its to low. 1 pound a week is about 160 for me by then. If I could be 155 then I'd be super thin, and I could put one some muscle :)
Yeah, that date is when I go back to college. And that weight goal (157) is 25 pounds less than I weighed last year when I went to college. :) BTW Mozart, you're a good bit taller than I am; I'm just 5'7" and a half.
Quote from: Mozart on July 15, 2009, 07:15:04 PM
Well I want to ask you a question guys and gals. If you dont feel hungry, is there any good reason to eat? What if it takes a day or two until you feel hungry again?
For example when someone is sick, generally they don't have a big appetite. And I was always told to eat to build strength, but it seems like nonsense when I think about it. Why eat if I have no desire for food?
If I didn't feel hungry for a day or two, I would assume that I'm sick and head to the doctor straightaway! ;D But otherwise, I've read that it is better to eat small amounts 5 or 6 times a day than large amounts once or twice a day, so there might be a good reason to eat something small even when you don't feel especially hungry.
Quote from: secondwind on July 15, 2009, 03:46:36 AM
I hate to admit it, being something of a night owl myself, but morning really is the best time for this exercise stuff. Not only is morning much cooler than any other time, but I've read that morning exercise can "reset" your metabolism to a higher level, so you have more energy and expend more calories doing the rest of the normal activities you do all day. :) I just wish I got a view like Joe's at the end of my exertions!
Quote from: DavidW on July 14, 2009, 07:47:05 AM
Yeah that's actually the hottest part of the day! It's only a few degrees less than the high. You see it only begins cooling a little before sunset. It doesn't reach the coolest part until dawn.
Oops, and here I was thinking I'd cleverly managed to get out of having to wake up before dawn. :-[ I'm in a super urban environment at the moment, so the 95%+ concrete surfaces must retain and release a lot of heat. :-\ I've checked the weather forecast for Friday: at 5 am, it's 28C, with a heat index of 31; at 8 pm, it's 31C, with a heat index of 37. No wonder my runs have been killing me. ::) I'm going to see if I can be out the door by, say, 5.30 tomorrow (ever the optimist teehee).
Quote from: DavidW on July 14, 2009, 07:47:48 AM
Novi, if you don't like the pesky morning, perhaps you should try swimming because then you'll be in the cool water. :)
Could be an idea. I'm visiting my dad at the moment and there's a pool in his apartment complex. I don't have any togs here though, and not sure if I remember how to swim. :P
Quote from: Mozart on July 15, 2009, 07:15:04 PM
Well I want to ask you a question guys and gals. If you dont feel hungry, is there any good reason to eat? What if it takes a day or two until you feel hungry again?
For example when someone is sick, generally they don't have a big appetite. And I was always told to eat to build strength, but it seems like nonsense when I think about it. Why eat if I have no desire for food?
Even if you don't feel hungry, you still need energy to function. Also, if you're trying to lose weight, your body might go into starvation mode, which bungles up your metabolism.
With the weight fluctuation, a couple of glasses of water would be an extra pound or so, so it's quite normal to have these variations.
Quote from: Brian on July 15, 2009, 08:21:12 PM
Yeah, that date is when I go back to college. And that weight goal (157) is 25 pounds less than I weighed last year when I went to college. :) BTW Mozart, you're a good bit taller than I am; I'm just 5'7" and a half.
Hmm I see, but 10 pounds in a month is a bit much, you can probably lose 5 if you work very hard :)
What exactly is hunger? Is it some feeling in youre stomach really? On Yom Kippur, I have no food or water for 25 hours, and its not food I want at all. I get the feeling, the one I've always thought was hunger, even in my throat. But any thought I have is about water, I usually drink water when its over and I don't even feel like eating until the next morning.
QuoteEven if you don't feel hungry, you still need energy to function. Also, if you're trying to lose weight, your body might go into starvation mode, which bungles up your metabolism.
Starvation mode? It sounds like a myth to me to scare stupid young girls into not becoming anorexic. I don't doubt that you would have a slower metabolism, just that in some magical way you stock up on fat or you slow you're metabolism forever.
If Im not wrong, it takes 5 days before you're body starts using its fat for energy, what is the body using before that? Well the body will use stored glucose in the liver. Whats so bad with not eating for 1 day?
Wouldn't lowering youre blood sugar in insulin levels make you convert less food into fat than more?
Mozart you are simply confusing stomach acid with hunger. Hunger is more complicated than that. It also has a psychological component.
Quote from: Mozart on July 16, 2009, 07:53:18 AM
Hmm I see, but 10 pounds in a month is a bit much, you can probably lose 5 if you work very hard :)
Hence my disappointment. :) I'll just see where I end up ... still can set a long-range goal of 150-155 by the end of the school year and make it.
260.5, but I've been sick with a fever.
Update on my amount to lose--the countdown, from June 24 to today:
48, 47, 46, 45 :D
I renewed my acquaintance with the gym today, and modified my routine to focus on upper body strength only. I'll count on the jogging/walking routine for the lower body strength.
And congratulations on your loss, Dave. I'm sure its not just the fever!
The compliments I've received have inspired me to work hard to lose the last bit I need to. I can see the light at the end and better not turn around to the darkness! I just wish summer would end quick, I like most people hate the heat, and it makes me lazy to walk or anything. If only I could go by the beach everyday!
So I've about 15 to loose, I don't know exactly, I'll know when I see it, but 15 is an estimate.
Quote from: MN Dave on July 17, 2009, 05:06:44 AM
260.5, but I've been sick with a fever.
Hey Dave, how's that fever? Two days without a post--that's not the Diner-Boy we know and love! Gather the last remaining shreds of strength in your probably by now emaciated body and send us a reassuring post! :(
Quote from: secondwind on July 19, 2009, 06:07:47 PM
Hey Dave, how's that fever? Two days without a post--that's not the Diner-Boy we know and love! Gather the last remaining shreds of strength in your probably by now emaciated body and send us a reassuring post! :(
;D
Still 260.5 but feeling much better. Back to the jog/walk thing tomorrow. 8)
Very glad that you're feeling better, Dave!
Quote from: MN Dave on July 20, 2009, 04:58:06 AM
;D
Still 260.5 but feeling much better. Back to the jog/walk thing tomorrow. 8)
Good to hear you are feeling better! I managed to drag myself out for a 30 minute jog this morning after taking the weekend off. I'm still looking for the easy button for this weight loss process--and some other things, like playing clarinet, money management, human relations . . . . ;D
All of the above suggestions are excellent, but rationality isn't enough to motivate me. I am trying to lose 20 pounds; 160 is above my "ideal" weight but would be satisfactory and perhaps improve my sleep apnea and pre-diabetes. I've gotten used to the way I look at 5'5" 180, so it's mostly for health. I am strugging with 2 things:
1. That little voice that says "I know it's not the healthiest choice but I WANT IT" or "Just a bite"
2. Taking several meds that contribute to weight gain
I am trying to do the healthy diet/more veggies thing and exercise 5 days a week, including the gym, moderate hiking, and (last resort) basement exercise bike.
(http://www.sxc.hu/pic/m/j/ju/juliaf/744491_bathroom_scale.jpg)
Quote1. That little voice that says "I know it's not the healthiest choice but I WANT IT" or "Just a bite"
This is an addiction type thing...you just need to get off the junk completely for 2 months...difficult but not impossible, and you wont really get cravings for junk. But once you do that don't slip up! You wont want it but maybe you'll go to the market and see it and reward yourself...and then its there again...Suddenly the next day you get a bad craving. Suffer for awhile, find the dishes that are yummy and healthy, eat the green, simple ;)
260 even. That's twelve pounds so far, if you're counting.
Progress!
Quote from: MN Dave on July 21, 2009, 09:13:44 AM
260 even. That's twelve pounds so far, if you're counting.
Excellent! 8)
Thanks, folks. :)
Quote from: MN Dave on July 21, 2009, 09:13:44 AM
260 even. That's twelve pounds so far, if you're counting.
12/52=23%
Dave is my hero! Keep it up my friend!
Quote from: Mozart on July 21, 2009, 11:07:15 AM
12/52=23%
Dave is my hero! Keep it up my friend!
0:) Thanks, buddy.
I'm feeling very virtuous here. . . I went out running before work, even though it felt like a sauna, and I prepared a low-fat lunch. . . 0:) So, tomorrow, the acid test--the weigh-in :o
Fortitude!
Quote from: secondwind on July 23, 2009, 11:49:07 AM
I'm feeling very virtuous here. . . I went out running before work, even though it felt like a sauna, and I prepared a low-fat lunch. . . 0:) So, tomorrow, the acid test--the weigh-in :o
Keep on truckin', Ms. Wind.
40 minutes pounding the pavement this morning, guys. But I really wish the heat and humidity would let up!
I finally made it to the gym today to weigh in on the official scale. The countdown from the last weigh-in July 17: 45, 44, 43! The beat goes on! And while running in the DC area July heat and humidity isn't easy, it's is getting better. :) What's happening with all you other losers? ;D
I have hit a block. >:(
Not gaining/not losing...
Aw, you're just giving me a chance to catch up! Thanks! ;)
:)
I've hit a wall at 166, where I've been (give or take) for two months now. That said, it's now been exactly 12 months since I decided to lose weight, and I have lost 16 pounds. My initial goal was actually considerably more modest.
Still planning to drop some more, though. We'll see what happens. :)
I'm going to be stuck with this ----ing avatar the rest of my life.
It would be best if you didn't constantly weigh yourself hoping for immediate change. These things take time, constantly monitoring your weight is not psychologically beneficial. :)
Eat healthy, exercise and your body will take care of itself. It's not the weight that's important, but your health. There is more to weight loss than just the pounds imo. When it's easier to race up a flight of stairs, when you don't have to eat as much to feel full, when you can look in the mirror and you like what you see, when your clothes feel loose, when you can look in the mirror and like what you see then it's working. All of that is much better than a simple #.
Keep it up, you're doing well.
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Thanks, bud.
Quote from: MN Dave on July 30, 2009, 05:36:17 AM
I'm going to be stuck with this ----ing avatar the rest of my life.
No worries, mate. Losing weight is not a slope, it is a series of plateaus. A few years ago I lost 35# (gained back 10 of it since I haven't been able to exercise, but that's a different story). I lost 15 right away by changing my diet, but got stuck there for 5 or 6 weeks. Then I discovered that if I went for a nice walk every day the weight started coming right off again. Anyway, I ended up going from 215 to 180 in 6 or 7 months, and kept it off for 6 years. So it can be done, but it isn't smooth and steady, it's a series of short gains and a holding pattern. You'll see. :)
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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on July 30, 2009, 07:06:40 AM
No worries, mate. Losing weight is not a slope, it is a series of plateaus. A few years ago I lost 35# (gained back 10 of it since I haven't been able to exercise, but that's a different story). I lost 15 right away by changing my diet, but got stuck there for 5 or 6 weeks. Then I discovered that if I went for a nice walk every day the weight started coming right off again. Anyway, I ended up going from 215 to 180 in 6 or 7 months, and kept it off for 6 years. So it can be done, but it isn't smooth and steady, it's a series of short gains and a holding pattern. You'll see. :)
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Yep. I'm a bit impatient.
Quote from: MN Dave on July 30, 2009, 07:27:53 AM
Yep. I'm a bit impatient.
If it helps, maybe you can change your avatar to another person on a scale. :D
Quote from: Brian on July 30, 2009, 09:04:10 AM
If it helps, maybe you can change your avatar to another person on a scale. :D
Beethoven? ;D
Quote from: MN Dave on July 30, 2009, 09:07:56 AM
Beethoven? ;D
Dussek ;D (that's a classical era joke. Look it up) ;)
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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on July 30, 2009, 09:39:03 AM
Dussek ;D (that's a classical era joke. Look it up) ;)
Oh, so you assume I have to look it up or I will not get the joke?! As if I don't know enough about classical music already! Well, really, sir!!!
[Okay, I looked it up.]
Quote from: MN Dave on July 30, 2009, 09:42:15 AM
Oh, so you assume I have to look it up or I will not get the joke?! As if I don't know enough about classical music already! Well, really, sir!!!
[Okay, I looked it up.]
;D I never condescend. It was admittedly obscure, but still funny. :)
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So is BMI important? Mine is 23.8
According to BMI I can weigh between 133 and 178 pounds and be a normal weight....45 pounds? thats a huge difference!
Quote from: Mozart on July 30, 2009, 10:57:01 PM
So is BMI important? Mine is 23.8
According to BMI I can weigh between 133 and 178 pounds and be a normal weight....45 pounds? thats a huge difference!
BMI is bullshit! It's a set of generalisations that puts every person into a supposedly average range dependent only on height and weight. It does not take into account skeletal structure, a person's somatotype or their ethnic origin. You'll see BMI ratings most commonly in woman's weekly magazines alongside the latest fad diet and that speaks volumes about the validity of the BMI. Any doctor who quotes BMI at you is one you should stop seeing.
Quote from: MN Dave on July 30, 2009, 07:27:53 AM
Yep. I'm a bit impatient.
Hi Dave,
I know how you feel. I'm going off now to deal with my own personal "stuckness" or plateau or whatever you want to call it, which is my clarinet playing. Very stuck. >:( I guess I have to do something more, something else less, and a whole bunch of things different and see what works. Good luck to us both! :)
Yep. Thanks.
Quote from: Mozart on July 30, 2009, 10:57:01 PM
So is BMI important? Mine is 23.8
According to BMI I can weigh between 133 and 178 pounds and be a normal weight....45 pounds? thats a huge difference!
What does ASCAP say? ;D
Hello MN Dave, Mozart, Brian, and all the rest of you Losers--
The running is becoming a daily ritual, gradually less agonizing than at first. I need to develop the habit of getting in to the gym a couple of times a week at least for the upper body workout, too. Some success so far, based on a little more breathing room in my clothes, and, without going too far into TMI-land (too much information, for those out of touch with the under 20 crowd), I notice some subtle changes in body shape. (Now, if I could just whip that flabby clarinet playing into shape, too! ;D) Still missing Ben and Jerry's, though. :'(
How goes it with you?
Going for a swim this afternoon.
Quote from: secondwind on August 03, 2009, 10:11:45 AM
Hello MN Dave, Mozart, Brian, and all the rest of you Losers--
The running is becoming a daily ritual, gradually less agonizing than at first. I need to develop the habit of getting in to the gym a couple of times a week at least for the upper body workout, too. Some success so far, based on a little more breathing room in my clothes, and, without going too far into TMI-land (too much information, for those out of touch with the under 20 crowd), I notice some subtle changes in body shape. (Now, if I could just whip that flabby clarinet playing into shape, too! ;D) Still missing Ben and Jerry's, though. :'(
How goes it with you?
Still on hold at 260. Doing good with the exercise but average with the food. :P
It seems I have settled into at 170...
I hope Gurn is right :) I think my ideal weight would be 155 or 160. I'll wait a few more weeks and if nothing goes down, I'll have to do more.
Quote from: MN Dave on August 03, 2009, 11:22:55 AM
Doing good with the exercise but average with the food. :P
Ah, yes. . . Food, the Final Frontier. . . .
I envy Karl his swim. If I had a pool nearby, I'd be using it these days. Here is just feels like I'm swimming because of the humidity. . . >:( And I envy Mozart the 10 to 15 pound goal, as my own is still 40-something. :-\ Still, if I can average about a pound a week, I can reach my goal inside a year. :D
Quote from: secondwind on August 03, 2009, 06:49:22 PM
Ah, yes. . . Food, the Final Frontier. . . .
I envy Karl his swim. If I had a pool nearby, I'd be using it these days. Here is just feels like I'm swimming because of the humidity. . . >:( And I envy Mozart the 10 to 15 pound goal, as my own is still 40-something. :-\ Still, if I can average about a pound a week, I can reach my goal inside a year. :D
If you can average a pound a week that's healthy, sustainable weight loss and you'll keep it off. :) I'm more proud of finding that I've kept the lbs off than my initial loss. :)
Quote from: DavidW on August 04, 2009, 03:23:05 AM
If you can average a pound a week that's healthy, sustainable weight loss and you'll keep it off. :) I'm more proud of finding that I've kept the lbs off than my initial loss. :)
I lost this same 50 lbs about 15 years ago, but when we moved back to the US from overseas I lost my focus on exercise and low-fat eating, and, well, a few pounds a year, back it came. :'( This time I'm going for total lifestyle change on a permanent basis. :) I'm happy to say that I've just come back frm my daily, before-work run.
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Quote from: secondwind on August 04, 2009, 03:31:52 AM
I lost this same 50 lbs about 15 years ago, but when we moved back to the US from overseas I lost my focus on exercise and low-fat eating, and, well, a few pounds a year, back it came. :'( This time I'm going for total lifestyle change on a permanent basis. :) I'm happy to say that I've just come back frm my daily, before-work run.
I agree, that's what it's about-- lifestyle change. It wouldn't be such an uphill battle if there wasn't such an abundance of high calorie, low nutrient food and we didn't have jobs sitting around like royalty all day. :D
Quote from: DavidW on August 04, 2009, 05:17:33 AM
I agree, that's what it's about-- lifestyle change. It wouldn't be such an uphill battle if there wasn't such an abundance of high calorie, low nutrient food and we didn't have jobs sitting around like royalty all day. :D
Bingo! I fell off of the Fat Enders wagon a few weeks back. I do not want to even know where I am at. However, time to jump back on. I will weigh today in a bit.
Quote from: Bogey on August 04, 2009, 05:59:03 AM
Bingo! I fell off of the Fat Enders wagon a few weeks back. I do not want to even know where I am at. However, time to jump back on. I will weigh today in a bit.
Guilty as charged too! :-[
I'll get back on track very soon though. Promise. ;D
Quote from: MN Dave on August 04, 2009, 05:15:12 AM
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Congratulations! Dave, you'll be wasting away soon, a mere shadow of your former self! Seriously, keep charging toward 220. :)
Yes, charging through a wall of fat. ;D
I will. Thanks. You guys keep me going here.
Not sure where I am at with weight, but need to "get with it" even more so, so decided to hold a new "carrot" out in front of me. I am guessing I am around 220, so I will not make another post until I am sub-200. Less time on the computer and more time on the bike or walking. I will check IM's from time to time, but that will be the extent until I get down to "posting-shape". ;D For now, Rick's is closed for "remodeling". ;)
But we'll always have Paris. . . . :'(
Quote from: Bogey on August 07, 2009, 07:33:16 AM
Not sure where I am at with weight, but need to "get with it" even more so, so decided to hold a new "carrot" out in front of me. I am guessing I am around 220, so I will not make another post until I am sub-200. Less time on the computer and more time on the bike or walking. I will check IM's from time to time, but that will be the extent until I get down to "posting-shape". ;D For now, Rick's is closed for "remodeling". ;)
Great avatar, but lose that weight fast, because we will miss you!
So Dave ... looks like you hit 220. ;D
:P
Hello Fat Enders!
Tomorrow comes another moment of truth. . . I'm going to try to get to the gym with hubby in the morning for my upper body workout and weigh-in. :o Wish me luck--5:30 comes awfully early. ??? I'm hoping there's been a bit more progress, but it is hard to know. I'm still running in the mornings--not increasing time or distance at the moment, but given our current heat and humidity levels, I'm satisfied just to be getting out there every day for 40 minutes or so. And the running has its other benefits. Bird song in the mornings, of course, and today the wildlife report--I startled 3 deer, who went bounding away when they saw me (they startled me, too), and later a rabbit scampered across the road ahead of me. How goes it with you all?
I'm still plugging away. Haven't weighed myself in a while.
Quote from: secondwind on August 10, 2009, 05:26:17 PM
Wish me luck--5:30 comes awfully early.
Yup! :) I'd been waking up at that time for a couple of weeks now, getting into the habit again so it's easy when I start teaching next week.
I've gained about 20 lbs since January (weightlifting). Doesn't sound like much but I'm extremely ectomorphic, so 20 lbs is a major achievement for me. :D
Quote from: DavidW on August 10, 2009, 05:32:19 PM
Yup! :) I'd been waking up at that time for a couple of weeks now, getting into the habit again so it's easy when I start teaching next week.
Ouch! I don't think 5:30 could ever be
easy for me. Possible, maybe. But not easy. I'm too much of a night owl. By the way, what do you teach?
Quote from: secondwind on August 10, 2009, 05:37:50 PM
Ouch! I don't think 5:30 could ever be easy for me. Possible, maybe. But not easy. I'm too much of a night owl. By the way, what do you teach?
I thought so too, I used to go bed at that time or later when I was in grad school! But if you make a habit of it, it becomes as easy as going to bed as any other time. :)
I teach physics. :)
Quote from: DavidW on August 10, 2009, 05:39:27 PM
I teach physics. :)
You can say that and smile? No wonder getting up at 5:30 doesn't faze you. ;D
Quote from: corey on August 10, 2009, 05:36:45 PM
I've gained about 20 lbs since January (weightlifting). Doesn't sound like much but I'm extremely ectomorphic, so 20 lbs is a major achievement for me. :D
I guess it could be just as hard to gain 20 lbs of muscle as to lose 20 lbs of fat, and I know that's hard! Congratulations! :D
QuoteI teach physics. Smiley
Hah it made me recall all my creepy physics teachers...
One who wrote write on the chalkboard incredibly slow...and still somehow illegible, he wrote a bike to school with helmet kneepads and elbow pads, and if you asked him a question he would rub his beard and say...well that is an interesting question, stop for like 5 minutes, and continue the lesson without answering.
Another who always had some sort of gadget or another to demonstrate one law or another, and wore shorts above the knee everyday and would giggle at his own stupid comments.
And of course my astronomy teacher who spent more time talking about the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy then about stars. And he ate cheetos.
Oh, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! The countdown from July 29 is. . . UP? ??? The sad news. . . 43, 44, 45. How could it be? It must be muscle, right? Right? C'mon guys, RIGHT? Nevertheless, must make changes. More steamed vegetables, less pasta. More baked fish, less chicken curry. But I can't give up the ritual Thursday night chamber music evening Ben and Jerry's Cherry Garcia. . . no, no, not the Cherry Garcia! Maybe I'll just cut that back a little bit. Run further on Thursday. Run further on Friday, too. But don't tell me I have to give up my weekly hit of Cherry Garcia! :(
I went for a swim yesterday . . . .
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 11, 2009, 05:06:25 AM
I went for a swim yesterday . . . .
And you didn't have to ring out your beard afterwords! :D
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Hello Fat Enders,
I am happy to report that the trend is again headed DOWN, and the countdown from the last report, in terms of pounds to lose, is 45, 44, 43. :) Now, if I can just keep that up. . . I'd be happy to lose a pound a week, on average. And no, I haven't completely given up Cherry Garcia, but I restrict myself to one small scoop on Thursday nights (more for the other three players, so they're not complaining! ;D). I am continuing to run every morning, and from time to time I make it back to the gym to work on my upper body strength exercise program (should help in lugging my new toy, the bass clarinet, around).
How's it going for the rest of us?
Meh. :-\
Have to watch my food better.
. . . lest it run off.
Quote from: secondwind on August 17, 2009, 03:58:47 PM
I am happy to report that the trend is again headed DOWN, and the countdown from the last report, in erms of pounds to lose, is 45, 44, 43.
Excellent!
Thanks, Karl! Well, I have to do it the slow way. I can't just shave off a beard and drop 5 lbs instantly! ;D And MN Dave--more steamed vegetables, fewer french fries. Boring, but it seems to work. :-\
Quote from: secondwind on August 11, 2009, 03:21:12 AM
Oh, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! The countdown from July 29 is. . . UP? ??? The sad news. . . 43, 44, 45. How could it be? It must be muscle, right? Right? C'mon guys, RIGHT? Nevertheless, must make changes. More steamed RAW vegetables, less pasta. More baked fish, less chicken curry. But I can't give up the ritual Thursday night chamber music evening Ben and Jerry's Cherry Garcia and RAW vegetables with ranch dressing. . . no, no, not my Cherry Garcia! baby carrots!!!!!! Maybe I'll just cut that back a little bit. Run further on Thursday. Run further on Friday, too. But don't tell me I have to give up my weekly hit of Cherry Garcia! :( baby peeled carrots and ranch!!!!!!
Usually when I wake up I weigh 6 to 8 even 10 pounds less than I do when I go to sleep. I assume its because I drink 4 or 6 liters of stuff a day plus food. Lets see...Im 168 now but usually 162 in morning...maybe my scale is more generous then? Anyways weight is just a number, I thought my goal would be 160 but then I said no no no its more about a satisfaction with myself and not some number.
Mozart, let me see if I have this right--you are suggesting RAW BABY CARROTS as a replacement for Ben and Jerry's Cherry Garcia Ice Cream? :o You can't be serious! >:( I'll just run farther on Fridays to make up for a tiny, tiny bit of Cherry Garcia on Thursday nights! ;)
You seem to have a huge weight fluctuation within a 24-hour period. I don't think my weight varies that much by time of day, but since I don't have a scale at home, I'm not sure. Anyway, if you weigh 162 in the morning, and your target weight is 160, you're doing really well! Congratulations! :)
Quote from: secondwind on August 17, 2009, 04:53:36 PM
Thanks, Karl! Well, I have to do it the slow way. I can't just shave off a beard and drop 5 lbs instantly! ;D
Ouch! ;D
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 18, 2009, 03:56:19 AM
Ouch! ;D
Careful with that razor, now! Clarinet players need to be cautious when wielding sharp, slicing objects around their lips! ;D
Indeed. Some clarinetists are notoriously reckless with their lips.
SQUONK!
So that's how you do multiphonics! ;D
You guys should try making smoothies. I've made them 3 or 4 days in a row now and I've been eating much less other stuff. And I feel like I will burst now, I was talking to my mom and I never talk much. Full of energy right now and feels nice :)
I did eat alot of chocolate today...chocolate chips and peanuts and almonds, but after that i drank my smoothie (i mentioned the ingredients in the food thread), had some broccoli, a pear, some cantaloupe, strawberries, flax seed, and olive oil. And everything is great at the moment :)
CACAOOOOO tomorrow I'll go to a shop to see special things they sell there. I hope they have CACAO!
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 18, 2009, 04:09:22 AM
Indeed. Some clarinetists are notoriously reckless with their lips.
Is that going to be the sequel to
Heedless Watermelon?
Reckless Lips? Makes sense. . . ;D
Quote from: Mozart on August 19, 2009, 05:35:00 PM
You guys should try making smoothies. I've made them 3 or 4 days in a row now and I've been eating much less other stuff. And I feel like I will burst now, I was talking to my mom and I never talk much. Full of energy right now and feels nice :)
I did eat alot of chocolate today...chocolate chips and peanuts and almonds, but after that i drank my smoothie (i mentioned the ingredients in the food thread), had some broccoli, a pear, some cantaloupe, strawberries, flax seed, and olive oil. And everything is great at the moment :)
CACAOOOOO tomorrow I'll go to a shop to see special things they sell there. I hope they have CACAO!
Hi Mozart,
I looked at the description in the What Are You Eating thread. I have never made smoothies with fresh greens, oats, and nuts thrown in--I've always just used fruit, yogurt, and maybe some juice. Do you make yours in a blender? I'm trying to imagine spinach and kale thrown in, and having a little trouble with the concept . . . :P. . . but maybe I'll try it sometime. Glad it's working for you! :)
Quote from: secondwind on August 19, 2009, 06:39:23 PM
Hi Mozart,
I looked at the description in the What Are You Eating thread. I have never made smoothies with fresh greens, oats, and nuts thrown in--I've always just used fruit, yogurt, and maybe some juice. Do you make yours in a blender? I'm trying to imagine spinach and kale thrown in, and having a little trouble with the concept . . . :P. . . but maybe I'll try it sometime. Glad it's working for you! :)
The reason I blend it is because its easier to mask the flavor in a smoothie. There is very dominant part of the smoothie which you taste, and everything else sort of ehh just has a slight taste. Try a tomato first, you'll see you wont taste it at all. I used a good ammount of both spinach and kale and it tasted like an incredible mix of orange juice and grapes.
The ideal smoothie I guess is just berries fruits nuts ext...no veggies...but I am lazy :) I don't mind, but i dont like munching on spianch. The oats? Why not...you dont taste at all.
Hello Fat Enders,
Well, today I achieved a personal best on the morning run--ran the full 60 minutes (plus 2 or 3) for the first time. What a difference a few degrees in temperature makes! We had rain last night, and it was a bit cooler this morning, so I felt I was able to continue running without risking heat stroke. I'm operating on faith that this is doing some good, or will do some good eventually. I'll do a weight check next week. I'm being careful with the diet, but not starving myself. I'm trying to establish a lifestyle I can sustain, and constant hunger isn't a part of that! How's it going with you?
Awesome news.
How's it going? It's going. :-\
Funny, I don't co (holy f&^% a bettle or wasp or something just flew on my window and scared me to death)
I dont count calories or even not eat, I am eating all day long :) But Im eating the raw foods mainly, lots of fruit, vegetables, nuts, seeds, mmm thats about it and today i took a bit...ohh ok 4 big spoonfulls of cacao + 1 in my smoothie + 3 spoons of cacao powder. Maybe it was excessive...
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Eat as much as this stuff as you want and nothing else, and you'll loose weight, but more important you will feel like a superhero!
So I can eat as much chocolate as I want. . . ? 0:)
Quote from: secondwind on August 22, 2009, 05:02:31 PM
So I can eat as much chocolate as I want. . . ? 0:)
Well as much as you would want sure, with agave :)
But raw chocolate is powerful medicine, it will begin to detoxify you at first and you will feel as terrible as i do now....I guess its what i deserve for eating alot of the most powerful natural antioxidant in the world. But its nothing odd, mainly people when they quit the junk in favor of a nature based diet go through terrible detoxification...ive read alot about it but its worse than I ever imagined.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 18, 2009, 04:09:22 AM
Indeed. Some clarinetists are notoriously reckless with their lips.
Don't let your wife know that! ;)
160!!!!!!!!
I probably was 160 last when i was 15 years old :)
Nice to reach my original goal, but I still feel some stomach pains...
But it was hard to estimate my ideal weight, I still want to lower my body fat a bit.
I am 18% fat now, to be 10% I must weigh 147 pounds. That seems like my most ideal weight before becoming stronger.
Congratulations! ;D
Quote from: Mozart on August 22, 2009, 09:52:48 AM
But Im eating the raw foods mainly, lots of fruit, vegetables, nuts, seeds, Eat as much as this stuff as you want and nothing else, and you'll loose weight, but more important you will feel like a superhero!
Where does your protein come from??
Quote from: Harpo on August 23, 2009, 11:44:09 AM
Where does your protein come from??
Lots of greens, spinach and kale.
Wheat germ
I guess those are the main sources.
The most protein rich food (complete protein too) in the world is called spirulina, an algae. It is 60 to 70% protein depending on where it is grown. I plan to buy the powder and take about 10 grams of it a day in the future. You can buy it on amazon for i think 15$ for 500 grams, just a nice boost to your protein intake.
I suppose I am not against cooking some beans and rice, but I've heard people eat them raw also after sprouting them for a few days.
Quinoa is the best grain in the world, and its about 18% protein, and also a complete protein.
Since I don't plan to be a body builder, I will survive with 60 to 80 grams a day, nice to be able to take the spirulina whenever I don't feel like cooking more.
Has anyone tried messing with negative calorie foods? Things like melon, celery, strawberries, oranges, that reputedly require more calories to digest them than they actually contain. In other words, all other things being equal (they aren't, of course), if you eat a melon, then overall your calorie intake is less than if you'd eaten nothing.
I tried eating a melon a day as a substitute for bread, and two sticks of celery in addition to my usual routine (so although I lose the bread, I don't feel as hungry as I would if I just cut down on bread because I gorge on melon. I lost about 8 pounds in a month, which was great - but then my weight just stuck, and won't reduce any further. I guess my metabolic rate has fallen to accommodate the new regime, and that's the end of any further weight loss.
So it worked for a while, but a melon a day seems not to be a magic pill.
You people are all too old! Stop with your old way of thinking, calories aren't that important. You don't have to eat little bits or ever feel hungry, avoid the idea entirely.
When you eat foods with enzymes in them, you're body doesn't work as hard to digest, so yes any uncooked fruit or vegetable will be better for your body, for your energy levels, than anything cooked.
Bread is not evil...Bread has sustained people on earth for thousands of years. You don't need to avoid bread, just the stupid kind. Make it yourself if you can.
Quote from: Mozart on August 23, 2009, 01:25:47 PM
calories aren't that important.
It's called conservation of energy, look it up. ::)
QuoteWhen you eat foods with enzymes in them, you're body doesn't work as hard to digest, so yes any uncooked fruit or vegetable will be better for your body, for your energy levels, than anything cooked.
You are just quoting the raw food pseudoscience, there is no staggering benefit to the enzymes you digest with raw food, and you are actually just putting an additional strain on your body by eating nothing but raw food. We produce enough of the enzymes we need that we don't need magical superstitious mumbo jumo like raw food diets.
Would you like a mood crystal with that? :D
The point is that you do not need to produce enzymes to digest food, when they are already present.
That would be true conservation of energy, look it up.
Quote from: Mozart on August 23, 2009, 02:12:47 PM
Well my friend, coming from a man as heavy as you, I tend to believe those healthy pseudoscienctists over you.
Nice try, but perhaps you can try being a gentleman now?
QuoteThe point is that you do not need to produce enzymes to digest food, when they are already present.
No the point is that it's unimportant snake oil used to lure gullible people into their fad diet. Which is really no different from any other fad diet in that respect.
Quote
That would be true conservation of energy, look it up.
A calorie is simply a unit of energy. If we take in less energy than we burn, we will be forced to either burn less energy or consume stored energy. What to you is "not important" is the fundamental concept behind dieting.
Take my advise, instead of getting all in a huff, look into this yourself. You will discover that the intake of less calories is what underlies diets that work. The rest is garbage. Eating more of one type of food over another is not special in anyway except for being unbalanced. You can lose weight from these diets simply because overall you are consuming less calories.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 11, 2009, 05:06:25 AM
I went for a swim yesterday . . . .
Oh, yes, lots of water is an important constituent of a healthy diet. ;)
Quote from: DavidW on August 23, 2009, 02:23:57 PM
A calorie is simply a unit of energy. If we take in less energy than we burn, we will be forced to either burn less energy or consume stored energy. What to you is "not important" is the fundamental concept behind dieting.
You will discover that the intake of less calories is what underlies diets that work. The rest is garbage. Eating more of one type of food over another is not special in anyway except for being unbalanced. You can lose weight from these diets simply because overall you are consuming less calories.
Yes, this is elementary, dr. W - or rather alimentary.
Quote from: premont on August 23, 2009, 02:35:11 PM
Yes, this is elementary, dr. W - or rather alimentary.
Haha good one! :D
I consume more calories now than when I was heavier, in the form of extra virgin olive oil. If calories alone lose weight, how did I lose weight by consuming about 500 calories of olive oil each day? I've slowly been eating better for the last 3 years, and what has worked for me is eating more raw foods.
Is it really such a fad to eat fruits and vegetables? I do not follow fads, I can detail to you over the past 3 years what has lead me to my current opinions and it wasn't a book. I began to read about raw foods only recently to try and explain to others why it worked for me and what they should do to feel healthier.
Again how is it a fad when I've lost 45 pounds now since Feb? I've never onced stopped to eat or counted a calorie, and I am sure I take more than 2000 calories a day.
** is 1 pound is equal to about 3500 calories it means I have limited my diet by 157500 since feb 20 which is 157 days? Unless I count wrong, from today. So by that I've either been eating or burning 1000 calories less a day every day for 157 days? I eat all day long! It's just not possible.
I missed 1 month its 184 days but still a good amount each day.
Quote from: Mozart on August 23, 2009, 02:40:51 PM
Is it really such a fad to eat fruits and vegetables?
No that's not a fad, a fad diet is eating raw fruits and vegetables to the exclusion of all else, which is what you are doing.
QuoteI consume more calories now than when I was heavier
QuoteAgain how is it a fad when I've lost 45 pounds now since Feb? I've never onced stopped to eat or counted a calorie, and I am sure I take more than 2000 calories a day.
If you've never counted a calorie, than how do you know that you have consumed more calories since you have started your diet? And how can you be sure of how many calories you consume? 8)
A fad is not synonymous with wrong, a fad is something that is very popular for awhile but then fizzles out. The raw food diet is a good example of a fad. Your weight loss can be attributed purely to consuming less calories or increasing your metabolic rate (usually through exercise).
What causes weight loss for you is that vegetables are significantly low caloric density foods, so you feel like you're eating alot by volume, but little by calories. Even with all of that olive oil that you consume, it will not add up to alot unless you spend your entire day eating. :D
Trust me on this, just look at a bag of carrots, it will blow your mind how few calories they have. You could spend hours eating that bag of carrots and you will have eaten calorie wise very little.
Quote from: Mozart on August 23, 2009, 02:40:51 PM
** is 1 pound is equal to about 3500 calories it means I have limited my diet by 157500 since feb 20 which is 157 days? Unless I count wrong, from today. So by that I've either been eating or burning 1000 calories less a day every day for 157 days? I eat all day long! It's just not possible.
I missed 1 month its 184 days but still a good amount each day.
See my comment on eating carrots. :)
QuoteNo that's not a fad, a fad diet is eating raw fruits and vegetables to the exclusion of all else, which is what you are doing.
And nuts ;) and seeds and i eat legumes
QuoteIf you've never counted a calorie, than how do you know that you have consumed more calories since you have started your diet? And how can you be sure of how many calories you consume? Cool
Simple logic, I was in school. Breakfast I ate raisin bran and yogurt, lunch pasta, dinner popcorn. EVERYDAY because I had like 15$ a week to spend on food. If the cereal has 300 the yogurt 100 the popcorn 400 the pasta 600, and I didn't eat tons of the stuff, so maybe I am even being generous, I took in under 1500 calories each day. I was certainly using the bathroom consistently with so much fiber, but I weighed 200 then and didn't lose weight. I did have a moustache then, but I doubt that would account for the 45 pounds of difference.
I don't eat only raw foods, just mostly raw foods. If eat fruit has 80 calories and I eat 10 in my smoothie, thats already 800. I used 1 cup of juice also. Then the olive oil, nuts, and sometimes I have other things, whole grain bread, rice beans and lentils ext...It depends on my wallet. When I've had less money (and sometimes I've had few dollars a week) I've eaten more bread rice wheat beans...and when I have money, then bring on the smoothies.
A carrot has few calories, but the body also uses less calories to digest it than a steak. A steak digests in 6 hrs and an apple in 1.
From such a scientific mind, if we are related to chimps, then shouldn't we sustain ourself from a diet similar to theirs? Once upon a time we were not civilized, and although I can only speculate, since we didn't always understand how to control fire, most of our food must have been eaten raw.
Quote from: DavidW on August 23, 2009, 02:52:13 PM
See my comment on eating carrots. :)
If its a fad to only restrict food intake to raw, why does one experience detoxification symptoms when they make the switch? Since I've quit drinking milk i've not had a single booger. But that happened after a week of dripping like the niagra falls.
Your fuzzy attempt at estimating your current calorie load is not convincing. The truth is that you don't have that much of an idea regarding how much you currently eat calorie wise. Your assertion that you eat more is speculation built around the intuition you have based on judging quantity of food per unit volume. Guess which one I'm going to believe: conservation of energy or your fuzzy recollection of your diet (with no added information about your exercise regime).
And now you've thrown at me more of your pseudoscience bunk about raw food being the most natural for us. And now you confuse either a milk allergy or a slight case of lactose intolerance with detoxing off of bad food. None of this garbage warrants more of a response, when you want to learn the actual truth I think you can find the library for yourself. And don't believe anything just because it was written in a book. I think that's how you fell into this trap in the first place (not the weight loss, but the strange rationalization for your unusual diet).
You are obviously just being defensive, I was not trying to marginalize your weight loss, I just wanted to not let quack science go by without comment. You can believe whatever you want, but you lost weight due to consuming less than you burn, it's common sense, it's physical law. It is irrational to think otherwise.
And one last thing to consider, I have lost more weight than you have and I have done it without adopting any fad diets. I'm not alone there, many people can and do lose weight without having to do strange things like eat only carbs, or eat only raw foods, or avoid sugars (it just goes on and on too, good grief!).
All the theories, fad or otherwise, don't really help me that much. The difficulty for me is primarily psychological. Obviously I could reduce my weight by eating only enough to merely survive, but then I'd be miserable. The real task is to combine ways of eating fewer calories without feeling unhappy about it. This is why the melon negative calorie idea looked attractive.
The problem seems to be how to balance the metabolic rate decrease that seems to occur when we eat less. So I eat less, lose some weight, but then the metabolic rate decreases and so my weight stabilises with the new intake. I try to push the metabolic rate up with exercise, but even so I get stuck. At the moment my daily calorie intake is between 1800 and 2000, and I get rid of 250 of those in a sweaty 40 minutes on the exercise bike. On those figures I should still be losing weight, but I'm not.
I have heard that over eating problems are usually psychological. One person described it as a way of tuning out the world. If your daily calorie intake is around 1800-2000 with any form of light exercise I imagine you must be close to ideal weight. How long have you been at the exercise bike? You might be building muscle so that your weight isn't going down.
I actually heard on the radio this morning that preliminary research is showing that intervals exercising produces twice as much weight loss. That is instead of using a steady rate you should alternate between slow and fast rates. They gave an example of 12 seconds of slow, 8 seconds of real fast, 12 seconds of slow etc and when it was done for 10 minutes burned an average (over the course of the study) of 6 lbs, while another group doing steady rate for 40 minutes only burned an average of 3 lbs.
If it's true, that's what I call bang for the buck! :D
Quote from: premont on August 23, 2009, 02:31:12 PM
Oh, yes, lots of water is an important constituent of a healthy diet. ;)
(* chortle *)Another swim today 8)
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Quote from: DavidW on August 24, 2009, 04:14:25 AM
I have heard that over eating problems are usually psychological. One person described it as a way of tuning out the world.
Yes most certainly, though in this case that's not quite what I meant. I was talking more about the psychological need to find a method of dieting that doesn't actually make life miserable.
QuoteIf your daily calorie intake is around 1800-2000 with any form of light exercise I imagine you must be close to ideal weight.
If only! I'm definitely overweight, and need to lose at least another stone for all sorts of reasons - not just because I want to look trim. I suspect that some of the medications I take have an adverse effect on the metabolic rate.
QuoteHow long have you been at the exercise bike? You might be building muscle so that your weight isn't going down.
At least a year. I abandoned the muscle-building theory, sadly, some time ago ....
QuoteI actually heard on the radio this morning that preliminary research is showing that intervals exercising produces twice as much weight loss.
Sounds good in general, though not so good for me, with a cardiac condition. My exercise needs to be steady and never excessive.
Quote from: Mozart on August 23, 2009, 12:13:46 PM
Lots of greens, spinach and kale.
Wheat germ.........
Quinoa is the best grain in the world, and its about 18% protein, and also a complete protein.
It's important to eat lots of fruits and vegetables, but I'm not sure they all have to be raw. We do eat quinoa sometimes and it is an amazing food. But I don't think I will try your smoothies--I like mine with fruit only. :)
Quote from: Elgarian on August 24, 2009, 12:37:08 AM
The difficulty for me is primarily psychological. Obviously I could reduce my weight by eating only enough to merely survive, but then I'd be miserable. The real task is to combine ways of eating fewer calories without feeling unhappy about it.
Well put. I feel the same way. I find that I do have to increase exercise and activity levels A LOT to lose weight. Unfortunately, increasing activity levels makes me hungrier, too! And I'm not willing to be hungry most of the time for the rest of my life, so I'm looking for a balance that will work.
At this point, I'm trying to eat 4 times a day instead of 2 or 3, with smaller amounts (in terms of calories) at each meal. I'm trying to stick to about 1600 calories a day, but I'm not completely fanatical about the calorie count. Still, I'm pretty sure I can't eat all the chocolate I want and still lose weight (sorry, Mozart). I am aiming for quality food, though--no junk, no sodas, no prepared food, only "good" fats, etc., which means I have to spend a lot more time in food prep and cooking. And since I'm preparing meals for my husband as well as myself, taste and variety are important (he'd rebel if he got nothing but smoothies!) Yes, I eat cooked food. Some raw fruits and vegetables, but not entirely.
I was interested in what David W posted about interval training. I may try to mix up my run a bit--instead of maintaining my turtle's pace the whole time (slow and steady wins the race, but maybe it doesn't melt the fat), I may do a few little sprints followed by a period of walking for recovery. (I don't have any cardiac problems that limit my exercise--yet.) I experience these weight loss plateaus, too, and I'm eager to find things to get the fat burning going again. Melons, smoothies, whatever! Anyway, thanks for all the ideas and support. :)
Quote from: Harpo on August 24, 2009, 12:33:11 PM
It's important to eat lots of fruits and vegetables, but I'm not sure they all have to be raw.
QFT
Long time no hear, Fat Enders! Are you all sitting around listening to classical music and reading great literature? Or are you walking, running, swimming, and sweatin' to the oldies? I'm visiting my mother in Florida, and forcing myself out into the heat to run or run/walk every morning to counteract the effects of key lime pie and lunch out with the ladies who lunch. How about you?
*grumble*
Went for a swim yesterday.
I went for a walk yesterday and saw my friend Fuzzywuzzy Woodchuck.
Fuzzy, wuzzy?
I'm still doing 40 minutes of sweaty uphill pedalling on the exercise bike every day; still living on lettuce, fish, tomatoes-on-toast, plums, oranges, melon, and rice cakes with a total daily calorie intake of about 1800; still not losing any more weight. Dietary science? Pooh!
Quote from: Elgarian on September 02, 2009, 07:26:07 AM
I'm still doing 40 minutes of sweaty uphill pedalling on the exercise bike every day; still living on lettuce, fish, tomatoes-on-toast, plums, oranges, melon, and rice cakes with a total daily calorie intake of about 1800; still not losing any more weight. Dietary science? Pooh!
Could there be an underlying medical issue, do you think? I think thyroid problems might affect weight loss in this manner. ???
Quote from: Novi on September 02, 2009, 04:22:50 PM
Could there be an underlying medical issue, do you think? I think thyroid problems might affect weight loss in this manner. ???
Regulating metabolism, the thyroid could be a culprit. But I bet there are other reasons for metabolism to be off. And some people just have low metabolic rates, you know?
Quote from: DavidW on September 02, 2009, 04:26:36 PM
Regulating metabolism, the thyroid could be a culprit. But I bet there are other reasons for metabolism to be off. And some people just have low metabolic rates, you know?
Yes, thyroid could hinder weight loss. Sleep apnea and some medications can do that, too. I'm also told that metabolism slows down as we age. :'(
I am speaking from my experience. "I am not a doctor but I play one on the Web."
Quote from: Elgarian on September 02, 2009, 07:26:07 AM
I'm still doing 40 minutes of sweaty uphill pedalling on the exercise bike every day; still living on lettuce, fish, tomatoes-on-toast, plums, oranges, melon, and rice cakes with a total daily calorie intake of about 1800; still not losing any more weight. Dietary science? Pooh!
Oh, Elgarian, I know how you feel! I hate these weight-loss plateaus, when I've been doing everything "right," and still not losing weight! I wish I knew the answer! How long has it been that you've pursued this plan and not lost any weight?
You people are just too old!
If its a thyroid problem then seaweeds will help alot.
I am 161 today after eating the entire day literally. I had everything from pasta with basil tomato garlic onion and sauce, to some crazy concoction of quinoa, oats, flax seed, almond, wheat bran, coconut, honey, cacao in almond milk (I guess cereal?) I had 3 pears a pound of strawberries 2 liters of water a peach, more cacao and almonds, olive oil, and I can't even remember breakfast some type of smoothie. Im loosing weight and eating as much as I want, in fact way more than I need. Get off you're old crap and just eat good stuff. It's very easy, much easier than I could have imagined.
Quote from: secondwind on September 02, 2009, 08:06:16 PM
How long has it been that you've pursued this plan and not lost any weight?
It was enormously beneficial at the start - I lost 10 pounds in a couple of months, which is exactly the kind of steady reduction that I hoped for. But I've now been stuck at my present weight for about 2 months, and I have an almost irresistible longing for steak pudding and chips followed by double helpings of treacle sponge and custard. Actually we had a few days' holiday in which I gave in and indulged myself, but just those few days had a devastating effect. It took me over two weeks to claw my way back again.
I think it is partly an age problem, but in my case it's also compounded by medication, which I suspect is the main culprit for the reduction in metabolic rate.
Quote from: Elgarian on September 02, 2009, 08:56:55 PM
I think it is partly an age problem, but in my case it's also compounded by medication, which I suspect is the main culprit for the reduction in metabolic rate.
Oh yeah, those unintended side effects! Have you discussed it with the doctor who prescibes the medication you think may be slowing your metabolism? If it is a medication you need, there may not be much to be done, but still it might be worth a discussion.
I keep slogging away, trying to run every morning, and consoling myself that if I continue to weigh a hundred and I'd rather not say pounds, at least they'll be a healthier hundred and I'd rather not say pounds. And I'm hoping that the weight loss will eventually resume.
Quote from: secondwind on September 02, 2009, 09:36:16 PM
Oh yeah, those unintended side effects! Have you discussed it with the doctor who prescibes the medication you think may be slowing your metabolism? If it is a medication you need, there may not be much to be done, but still it might be worth a discussion.
Sadly, a heart attack a few years ago means the medication is necessary - the usual bunch of cardiac pills: beta blockers, a mix of blood pressure controllers, etc. And of course if this goes on I'll discuss it with my doctor, though I doubt there's much he can offer except a shoulder. But for the moment, what I want - what we
all want - is results, results, results.
QuoteI keep slogging away, trying to run every morning, and consoling myself that if I continue to weigh a hundred and I'd rather not say pounds, at least they'll be a healthier hundred and I'd rather not say pounds. And I'm hoping that the weight loss will eventually resume.
I think in the longer term this will work, for me as well as for you. But we still want that short term encouragement, don't we?
Quote from: Elgarian on September 03, 2009, 01:50:53 AM
Sadly, a heart attack a few years ago means the medication is necessary - the usual bunch of cardiac pills: beta blockers, a mix of blood pressure controllers, etc. And of course if this goes on I'll discuss it with my doctor, though I doubt there's much he can offer except a shoulder. But for the moment, what I want - what we all want - is results, results, results.
I think in the longer term this will work, for me as well as for you. But we still want that short term encouragement, don't we?
Yes, absolutely. Patience is not one of my virtues! Sorry to hear about the heart attack. Clearly, you're doing the right things for your overall health. I hope you get some of those more visible results soon!
I went for a run this morning in the unfamiliar Florida landscape, and saw a great, big blue heron, a cute lil' bitty blue heron, egrets of all sizes, an ibis, and of course lots of gekkos. ;D All that through steamed-up glasses! ;D
Quote from: secondwind on September 02, 2009, 09:36:16 PM
Oh yeah, those unintended side effects! Have you discussed it with the doctor who prescibes the medication you think may be slowing your metabolism? If it is a medication you need, there may not be much to be done, but still it might be worth a discussion.
I keep slogging away, trying to run every morning, and consoling myself that if I continue to weigh a hundred and I'd rather not say pounds, at least they'll be a healthier hundred and I'd rather not say pounds. And I'm hoping that the weight loss will eventually resume.
Sometimes the benefits of medication seem to outweigh the side effects, such as weight gain. I am going to try eliminating a couple of my mood stabilizers (with my doctor's instructions) after I do some other things, but I like being happy, although pudgy. Meanwhile I do seem to be a "healthier" ______pounds, since I exercise 4-5 times a week. My "inner child" seems to be sabotaging my work. Last night I bought some cookies, ostensibly for a little luncheon I'm going to, and then the inner child (yeah, I know it's the real me) said "I don't care. I love these cookies and I want them," so I ate a handful. Then I scolded the inner child.....
Quote from: Mozart on September 02, 2009, 08:26:03 PM
You people are just too old!
If its a thyroid problem then seaweeds will help alot.
Yes, Mozart, many of us are old--today is senior day at the supermarket, and I qualify for a discount. :) We did grow up on more meat and carbs, and probably think that the raw veggie approach is extreme. If there is a thyroid problem, have it checked by a doctor. "Natural" cures can be harmful.
Quote from: Harpo on September 03, 2009, 05:47:08 AM
Yes, Mozart, many of us are old--today is senior day at the supermarket, and I qualify for a discount. :) We did grow up on more meat and carbs, and probably think that the raw veggie approach is extreme. If there is a thyroid problem, have it checked by a doctor. "Natural" cures can be harmful.
They also won't work if the problem is absence of thyroid, which is what my mother has, she had to have it surgically removed when she was in her twenties. Finding exactly the right balance of thyroid is very, very difficult. She either ends up lethargic or nervous by just being off by a little bit in her dosage. So naturally I'm led to think that issues with the thyroid can be complex and not treated by some new age silliness with raw veggies and a mood ring. ;D
It is not a cure, it is prevention. Some pill that has a range of side effects is considered normal when a plant is considered harmful? A better question to ask is why do you get sick, and not how to fix yourself when you are sick. Treating symptoms doesn't fix the cause of the problem!
Counting calories sure makes life a blast! Just go and see how a chimpanzee keeps a little notepad to jot down all the things he eats. I was in the jungle the other day and overhead one thinking to themself after doing the math saying "Ohh crap! I had 200 calories too many today, I better make up for it tomorrow."
Quote from: Mozart on September 03, 2009, 06:39:38 AM
Counting calories sure makes life a blast! Just go and see how a chimpanzee keeps a little notepad to jot down all the things he eats. I was in the jungle the other day and overhead one thinking to themself after doing the math saying "Ohh crap! I had 200 calories too many today, I better make up for it tomorrow."
The reality is that in the wild finding meals, let alone full meals is rare. Ancient cavemen would not have luxury of constantly stuffing food down their gaping maw like you do every day. Most of their time was occupied with finding food, not just eating it. If you gave them plentiful nearly unlimited supply of food, like we enjoy today, they would probably stuff themselves until they were fat. If I were you, I would stop thinking that chimpanzees or cave men are the sage gurus that you should follow because your diet has almost nothing to do with their diet.
They wouldn't need to count calories because they never have enough to turn into bloated manatees.
Quote from: DavidW on September 03, 2009, 06:02:59 AM
They also won't work if the problem is absence of thyroid, which is what my mother has, she had to have it surgically removed when she was in her twenties. Finding exactly the right balance of thyroid is very, very difficult. She either ends up lethargic or nervous by just being off by a little bit in her dosage. So naturally I'm led to think that issues with the thyroid can be complex and not treated by some new age silliness with raw veggies and a mood ring. ;D
That's exactly what I have found with thyroid meds. Plus,"natural" doesn't always equal "safe." Look at poison mushrooms! Herbal supplements have not been tested or standardized, so you don't know what's in them.
I just came back from the local fish store and farmer's market with lots of fresh, unprocessed foods, and it's good to eat that kind of natural food.
Quote from: Harpo on September 03, 2009, 11:37:08 AM
That's exactly what I have found with thyroid meds. Plus,"natural" doesn't always equal "safe." Look at poison mushrooms! Herbal supplements have not been tested or standardized, so you don't know what's in them.
I just came back from the local fish store and farmer's market with lots of fresh, unprocessed foods, and it's good to eat that kind of natural food.
Who is talking about any supplement? Seaweed is not a pill its a natural growing food. It's like lettuce, lettuce doesn't kill.
Lettuce doesn't kill: Rabbits do.
Quote from: Mozart on September 03, 2009, 12:05:39 PM
Who is talking about any supplement? Seaweed is not a pill its a natural growing food. It's like lettuce, lettuce doesn't kill.
Too much iodine and salt can kill, especially if there is a medical problem.
I think you will just need to continue to research dietary issues and choose what makes sense to you.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 03, 2009, 12:07:46 PM
Lettuce doesn't kill: Rabbits do.
Karl, you must eventually admit you have a problem: addiction to Monty Python. ;D
Hello Fat Enders (or in my case, maybe, Fat Continuers :'()
I did a weigh-in this week, and the weight loss has again reversed course into a weight gain! ??? How can this be? I continue to exercise, am extremely careful with diet, and I'm nice to my cats! Surely I deserve to lose weight! >:( Nevertheless, the current weight to lose record is 43, 44, 45.
Tonight, the ultimate sacrifice--NO CHERRY GARCIA after music! If there is in fact a God. I should be showing a loss again next week. 0:)
I salute you!
I have to put my act back together. ;)
Quote from: DavidW on September 03, 2009, 02:57:46 PM
Karl, you must eventually admit you have a problem: addiction to Monty Python. ;D
And my problems is addiction to Cherry Garcia! Monty Python would be better!
Quote from: DavidW on September 03, 2009, 02:57:46 PM
Karl, you must eventually admit you have a problem: addiction to Monty Python. ;D
How did I miss this!?
Davey, you have guessed that this momentary flirtation with Tarantino is only a palate-cleanser so that I can go back in for more Python! :D
Quote from: secondwind on September 10, 2009, 10:51:08 AM
And my problems is addiction to Cherry Garcia! Monty Python would be better!
I used to love Cherry Garcia too much... but now it's about Blue Bell's Homemade Vanilla, yum. :)
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 10, 2009, 10:53:51 AM
How did I miss this!?
Davey, you have guessed that this momentary flirtation with Tarantino is only a palate-cleanser so that I can go back in for more Python! :D
Poor Tarantino, he's just a rebound director. :'(
:D
::)
C'mon, Dave, summarize Proust: you know you want to!
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 10, 2009, 12:20:45 PM
C'mon, Dave, summarize Proust: you know you want to!
What in God's name are you talking about?
You cannot mean it!? . . . once in a swimsuit, and once in evening dress.
http://www.youtube.com/v/uwAOc4g3K-g
Ah. Jeez, I haven't watched that stuff in ages. :-\
That's an uncensored clip, wherein he mentions all three of his hobbies.
Quote from: secondwind on September 10, 2009, 10:44:46 AM
I did a weigh-in this week, and the weight loss has again reversed course into a weight gain! ??? How can this be? I continue to exercise, am extremely careful with diet, and I'm nice to my cats! Surely I deserve to lose weight!
OK let's be positive about this, SW. The extra can only be variations due to retained water; it
can't be fat. Keep stroking the cats (essential), keep running, and insist on having a whole week with no treats. Lettuce rules. Grilled sliced tomatoes, sprinkled with a bit of seasoning on toast, are both wonderful and surprisingly satisfying, I'm discovering (but be careful what bread you use for the toast - watch the fat and calorie content).
I'm feeling more perky, and am living proof that persistence through grim patches works. I'll show you a graph when I've plotted it out.
OK, here goes. I've found there's a lot of scatter in the daily weighings, so I looked at a 5-day running mean over the last three weeks - that is, the first result was the mean weight for days 1 to 5, the next was the mean for days 2 to 6, and so on. This smooths out a lot of the scatter that's just caused by variations in water retention. And this is what I got:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/Alan_/GCS0100.jpg)
Although there were many days when my weight seemed to go up and down at random (sometimes depressingly so), on average I've been losing weight at a rate of 4 pounds every 18 days during the last three weeks. (The zero on the scale is 14 stone, 0 pounds.)
Quote from: Elgarian on September 10, 2009, 01:03:34 PM
OK let's be positive about this, SW. The extra can only be variations due to retained water; it can't be fat. Keep stroking the cats (essential), keep running, and insist on having a whole week with no treats. Lettuce rules. Grilled sliced tomatoes, sprinkled with a bit of seasoning on toast, are both wonderful and surprisingly satisfying, I'm discovering (but be careful what bread you use for the toast - watch the fat and calorie content).
I'm feeling more perky, and am living proof that persistence through grim patches works. I'll show you a graph when I've plotted it out.
Thanks, Elgarian. I do just need some encouragement to stay the course in the face of apparent lack of success! Tonight's treat--some grapes (no Cherry Garcia :'() Tomorrow, grilled tomatoes! And, of course, an hour of running. Congratulations on your success. I hope to match your rate sometime soon!
I'm still holding at 160 pretty consistently, 159 or 164 is my range but generally 160.
I guess its a good weight for me, but I wouldn't mind being less. Trying to loss body fat now and not just weight.
I really haven't done any exercise, but summer is almost over and I'll go out more when the temperature is nice. That exercise you guys talk about must be quite helpful.
And cashews are too delicious..I think I found a new love.
I also took my blood pressure today randomly, it was 119 and 67, which I guess is normal so hooray for me! If I can be 150 by the end of winter, I will complete one great year, loosing 70 pounds. 2010 I can turn into superman. Ekkkk 60 pounds gone without effort, why didnt I do it before?
Quote from: secondwind on September 10, 2009, 07:47:22 PM
I do just need some encouragement to stay the course in the face of apparent lack of success! Tonight's treat--some grapes (no Cherry Garcia :'()
That's the style!
Have you tried melon instead of grapes as a treat? Grapes have about 3 times the calories compared with the same weight of melon, and I believe melon may be harder to digest than grapes (so you use more calories while digesting it). During those three weeks on my graph, I've been eating half a melon per day (some days a whole one), two or three oranges, and half a dozen plums as 'treats', on top of my normal meals, and as desserts.
Another alternative is sugar-free jelly. It comes in little sachets in a variety of flavours, and contains effectively
zero calories. You can make up a pint of the stuff in the morning, chop up a couple of strawberries or plums into tiny pieces, and chuck 'em in, and you have a huge bowlful of fruity jelly to eat, literally
as much of as you want during the day. Tiramisu it is not, but we're desperate folks, right?
Revising shopping list. . . add melons, sugar free jelly, triple the lettuce. . .
Quote from: secondwind on September 11, 2009, 04:23:50 AM
Revising shopping list. . . add melons, sugar free jelly, triple the lettuce. . .
During these last few weeks I've acquired the alter egos of Melon Man, Jelly Jim, Lettuce Leslie, and Tomato Tom.
And today - can't quite believe this - I've gone under 14 stone (13st 13 lb) for the first time in years. (Runs off to go and eat more melons ...)
Have you tried caramel-flavoured rice cakes (the brand I get here is 'Snack-a-Jack)? They taste rather like popcorn (which is good if you like popcorn), and two big ones - you can nibble away at a couple for quite a while - are only about 100 calories.
How about making a sprout salad? You buy a bunch of sprouting seeds, a mason jar, soak them in water, then drain them, wet them every 12 hrs for 3 days and boooshh probably the healthiest food you've ever had in your life. And low in calories...
Hmm. Normally Mamochka keeps us in sprouts, and it's been a while . . . .
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 11, 2009, 11:04:17 AM
Hmm. Normally Mamochka keeps us in sprouts, and it's been a while . . . .
Do it yourself, its not difficult and maybe more gratifying.
Okay Fat Enders, new moment of now! Time to get (back) with the program! I missed my run yesterday--just didn't get up early enough to run before starting the rest of a highly scheduled day. >:( Today, no excuses! I can be out there by 6 am, run an hour, then back for melon! On the plus side, I've stayed away from Cherry Garcia and similar indulgences, so I'm not feeling too bad.
Quote from: secondwind on September 14, 2009, 01:50:14 AM
Okay Fat Enders, new moment of now! Time to get (back) with the program! I missed my run yesterday--just didn't get up early enough to run before starting the rest of a highly scheduled day. >:( Today, no excuses! I can be out there by 6 am, run an hour, then back for melon! On the plus side, I've stayed away from Cherry Garcia and similar indulgences, so I'm not feeling too bad.
Good for you!
Quote from: Mozart on September 10, 2009, 09:01:57 PM
I'm still holding at 160 pretty consistently, 159 or 164 is my range but generally 160.
I also took my blood pressure today randomly, it was 119 and 67, which I guess is normal so hooray for me! If I can be 150 by the end of winter, I will complete one great year, loosing 70 pounds. 2010 I can turn into superman. Ekkkk 60 pounds gone without effort, why didnt I do it before?
Congrats on losing the weight. Wish I could be more consistent in my eating habits. I was doing pretty well yesterday until I brought a pint of Ciao Bella pistachio gelato into the house and consumed 3/4 of it. :-[
Yeah, food is killing me. I'm not focusing. Too much other stuff going on.
Quote from: Harpo on September 14, 2009, 05:11:29 AM
Congrats on losing the weight. Wish I could be more consistent in my eating habits. I was doing pretty well yesterday until I brought a pint of Ciao Bella pistachio gelato into the house and consumed 3/4 of it. :-[
For that much ice cream, you could eat 10 pounds of strawberries! Why don't you switch the ice cream for frozen yogurt, and instead of buying a pint and keeping it in the house, go out when you get tempted for it. Fill your house with good things, and when you get a craving for something bad, make sure its eaten outside. Today you might not want ice cream, but just seeing it there will tempt you.
Mmmm strawberries, why would you want ice cream when you can have strawberries?
Quote from: MN Dave on September 14, 2009, 05:13:36 AM
Yeah, food is killing me. I'm not focusing. Too much other stuff going on.
The heedless watermelon caught up with you. ;D
:o ;D
It all seems unfair. For the first time in years, I dip below 14 stone (see above).
Then I have a family day out with my daughter. We eat roast beef, Yorkshire pudding, ice cream. OK, bad stuff, but it was just one special day out, following weeks of struggle against the reckless heedlessness of watermelons.
The next day after my usual exercise etc I get on the scales. 14 stone 2 - I've gained 3 pounds. Today, again, fully back to the heedless melon routine, I'm still 14 stone 2. Now - if I actually weighed the food I consumed during that day out, it would weigh LESS than 3 pounds. My body can only have absorbed (and converted to fat) a fraction of that - so this extra can only be due to water retention. But WHY? WHY?
WHY?
Quote from: Mozart on September 14, 2009, 06:01:37 AM
For that much ice cream, you could eat 10 pounds of strawberries!
You're right, of course. I just came back from the gym--an hour of Jazzercize aerobics--so that's a plus. Salad for lunch. I have been working with a holistic nutritionist on "mindful eating," but I'm progressing slowly.... Made a "contract" with her (and myself) to exercise 5 times a week.
Hey fun fact-- some people that suffer from migraines have considerable water retention before and during their migraine. :)
Anyway water retention might be a complicated issue.
Water retention is the least of a Texas speed bump's worries, je-je!
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 14, 2009, 08:33:27 AM
Water retention is the least of a Texas speed bump's worries, je-je!
After that rain we had, a Texas speed bump might really swell up. ;D
207 pound Mozart
158 pound Mozart
I do look cooler at 207 I guess, but its hard to take a photo of yourself with a webcam. In fact its just one frame from a video...so excuse the stupid face I am making.
Just in case anyone thinks me dishonest...
The first photo is around Jan 5-10 2009
and the 2nd one from 5 mins ago
Quote from: secondwind on September 14, 2009, 01:50:14 AM
Okay Fat Enders, new moment of now! Time to get (back) with the program! I missed my run yesterday--just didn't get up early enough to run before starting the rest of a highly scheduled day. >:( Today, no excuses! I can be out there by 6 am, run an hour, then back for melon! On the plus side, I've stayed away from Cherry Garcia and similar indulgences, so I'm not feeling too bad.
Secondwind, a rest day here and there could be a good thing - gives the muscles time to heal. Have you tried frozen grapes? Higher sugar than melon, but very nice in place of ice cream, perhaps. :) Your dedication is impressive - I managed maybe three 6ish am starts before I gave up and reverted to evening runs. ::)
Quote from: Elgarian on September 14, 2009, 07:49:41 AM
The next day after my usual exercise etc I get on the scales. 14 stone 2 - I've gained 3 pounds. Today, again, fully back to the heedless melon routine, I'm still 14 stone 2. Now - if I actually weighed the food I consumed during that day out, it would weigh LESS than 3 pounds. My body can only have absorbed (and converted to fat) a fraction of that - so this extra can only be due to water retention. But WHY? WHY?
WHY?
Salty meal maybe? ???
Quote from: Mozart on September 14, 2009, 08:50:18 AM
207 pound Mozart
158 pound Mozart
I do look cooler at 207 I guess, but its hard to take a photo of yourself with a webcam. In fact its just one frame from a video...so excuse the stupid face I am making.
Wow, that's quite a loss. Are you still wanting to lose more weight though? I think you look good at the moment. :)
Quote from: Novi on September 14, 2009, 10:51:01 AM
Wow, that's quite a loss. Are you still wanting to lose more weight though? I think you look good at the moment. :)
I'm fine with the weight now, I want to lose some body fat. I'm almost at my ideal weight and figure, so I will try a bit more. But I haven't been trying at all, it just happened when I started eating well.
Oy, my fat end!
Quote from: secondwind on September 14, 2009, 01:50:14 AM
On the plus side, I've stayed away from Cherry Garcia and similar indulgences, so I'm not feeling too bad.
Missed this when I posted earlier. Congratulations on the indulgence-avoidance progress. (As noted earlier, I'm now paying the price for my day of sin.)
Quote from: Mozart on September 14, 2009, 08:50:18 AM
207 pound Mozart
158 pound Mozart
Wish I had your waistline! :) How tall are you?
Quote from: Harpo on September 14, 2009, 02:41:39 PM
Wish I had your waistline! :) How tall are you?
Right now my waist is 33 inches (84 cms), I'd like to loose 1 maybe 2 more there, and I am 180 cms or 5 ft 11 about, can't grow anymore :)
I will start doing more physical activity soon, probably oct 5 sounds like an arbitrary enough day to begin, after the end of the heat is over. I like to walk, but its hard to walk when everything outside is ugly, its very uninviting. I thought about going to walk earlier and I said what will I see? Ugly streets, ugly cars, ugly people, poor air, no trees...and it discourages me. I hope to move in the next few months.
I just want to add again how simple it was to lose weight. I ate lots of food and I still eat lots of food, food I enjoyed alot. In May when I weighed myself after 4 months, I couldn't believe I weighed 176! How was that possible to lose 30 pounds in 4 months, without not being hungry ever? You can force yourself to cut out your ice cream and things, but its not fun and for that reason won't work. You won't resist a craving for long. Just add fresh, raw things in each day, more berries, more apples ext...back in winter and spring I had oatmeal for my breakfast, and will probably start again with that when it gets cooler. I loved french fries, but instead I make potato wedges, which taste even better. I even like the taste of broccoli...raw of course. And I feel like I'm just starting, I want to grow wheatgrass and drink it's juice each day. A juicer would be nice. I want to (and do a little bit of) grow sprouts of things, and if not make a salad, make it into juice.
Anyways my point was its easy, it was soooo easy. You just need the right strategy. Forcing yourself to do things that you don't enjoy won't work in the long run.
Quote from: Elgarian on September 14, 2009, 07:49:41 AM
It all seems unfair. For the first time in years, I dip below 14 stone (see above).
Then I have a family day out with my daughter. We eat roast beef, Yorkshire pudding, ice cream. OK, bad stuff, but it was just one special day out, following weeks of struggle against the reckless heedlessness of watermelons.
The next day after my usual exercise etc I get on the scales. 14 stone 2 - I've gained 3 pounds. Today, again, fully back to the heedless melon routine, I'm still 14 stone 2. Now - if I actually weighed the food I consumed during that day out, it would weigh LESS than 3 pounds. My body can only have absorbed (and converted to fat) a fraction of that - so this extra can only be due to water retention. But WHY? WHY?
WHY?
Ouch, I know the feeling! I think your weight gain is probably mostly from a high salt day causing you to retain a lot more water. It should disappear soon. But it is very discouraging to have the scale moving in the wrong direction!
I've got melon and berries and apples in the fridge and a plan to run an hour every day. Sooner or later, something's got to give! I want to be posting before and after pictures like Mozart!
Quote from: secondwind on September 14, 2009, 06:38:56 PM
It should disappear soon.
This is what I want to hear! Excellent. And I trust you implicitly, SW, so it must be true. On we go, to another, healthier, lighter day.
Incidentally, like Mozart I try to find ways not to go hungry. I do eat
large quantities of things like melon, plums, lettuce, tomatoes, mushrooms, rice cakes, Dutch crispbreads. But sometimes, I find, my system simply screams '
Yorkshire pudding, chips and treacle sponge!!'; and when that happens, nothing else will do until I give in and just do it.
I've never had two of those three items Elgarian. :'(
My current cravings are for biscuits (not as in cookies but as in real buttermilk biscuits) and honey. :)
Quote from: DavidW on September 15, 2009, 01:05:42 PM
I've never had two of those three items Elgarian.
Oh no! You poor fellow. Or (second thoughts) are you
lucky, rather, never to have been exposed to such dangerous addictions. I presume Yorkshire pud and treacle sponge are the ones you're missing?
Quote from: Elgarian on September 15, 2009, 01:10:03 PM
Oh no! You poor fellow. Or (second thoughts) are you lucky, rather, never to have been exposed to such dangerous addictions. I presume Yorkshire pud and treacle sponge are the ones you're missing?
Yup those are the ones. :) I had to google to even see what they looked like. ;D
Quote from: Elgarian on September 15, 2009, 01:02:19 PM
This is what I want to hear! Excellent. And I trust you implicitly, SW, so it must be true. On we go, to another, healthier, lighter day.
Incidentally, like Mozart I try to find ways not to go hungry. I do eat large quantities of things like melon, plums, lettuce, tomatoes, mushrooms, rice cakes, Dutch crispbreads. But sometimes, I find, my system simply screams 'Yorkshire pudding, chips and treacle sponge!!'; and when that happens, nothing else will do until I give in and just do it.
One day I woke up, and all my cravings for junk left, and have not returned. It took a lot of work, and a lot of suffering, but I never get a craving for a snickers anymore. I'm not sure why I don't get them anymore, but I am glad they don't come. Nor do I miss eating them. Sometimes still though, seeing someone eat pizza will remind me of how I loved pizza and it will make me want it. But I realize its not the pizza I want, but the nostalgia. I don't miss eating meat at all, I mainly miss cheese. But if I eat it, it doesn't taste good to me anymore, its just a memory.
Anyone ever take bee pollen before? I bought a bit to try it out, and its in water till tomorrow morning. tehehehhe I get some sort of fun trying new things like this. I think I'll die one day from taking the wrong thing :)
Just saying folks, there is a much easier way and better way of doing things, instead the standard and painful way most of you follow.
QuoteIn weight-loss programs, bee pollen stimulates the metabolic processes. It speeds caloric burn by lighting and stoking the metabolic fires. Honeybee pollen is coming to be recognized as Nature's true weight-loss food. Bee pollen is a low-calorie food. It contains only ninety calories per ounce. (An ounce is about two heaping tablespoons.) It offers 15 percent lecithin by volume. Lecithin is a substance that helps dissolve and flush fat from the body. This is one reason why bee pollen lowers low-density lipoproteins (LDL) surer and faster than any other food while helping increase the helpful high-density lipoproteins (HDL), which science says protect against cholesterol and heart disease.
By boosting the value of each nutrient present in the food you eat, bee pollen also eliminates cravings. Its natural phenylalanine content acts as an appetite suppressant. Phenylalanine is a natural amino acid that the body requires. It acts on your appestat, the control center that signals fullness and hunger. Mother Nature knows what she's about. You just plain won't want to eat as much when you take bee pollen regularly. When you are overweight, phenylalanine exerts a natural appetite suppressant effect.
QuoteThe British Sports Council recorded increases in strength of as high as 40 to 50 percent in those taking bee pollen regularly. Even more astounding, the British Royal Society has reported height increases in adults who take pollen.
And tons more info
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/bee.htm
Thank you for your wonderful contribution. You are such an understanding person, you clearly see what others struggle with and can so clearly remove yourself from your own situation to understand both the differences and similarities between yourself and other people.
Mozart, you are such a marvelous human being. You help find others find their own way to a healthy and happy life. And you would never, ever inflate a bruised ego by jumping on a thread to brag about your accomplishments to people who so desperately want to be thin. Why that would be vain! Could you imagine such a person that would be so self-absorbed that they wouldn't even realize how much of an asshole that would make him! :D
And Mozart, could you imagine the type of person that would tell a person to eat healthy when they just explained in detail in several posts that he does? Could you imagine how much it would show that person doesn't even care about the people he thinks that he's helping? Well howdy I'm sure glad that we don't know anyone like that.
I'm glad that none of us here are so simple minded that they would think that one plan would work for everyone. :)
QuoteThank you for your wonderful contribution. You are such an understanding person, you clearly see what others struggle with and can so clearly remove yourself from your own situation to understand both the differences and similarities between yourself and other people.
You're welcome buddy. :-*
Quote
Mozart, you are such a marvelous human being. You help find others find their own way to a healthy and happy life. And you would never, ever inflate a bruised ego by jumping on a thread to brag about your accomplishments to people who so desperately want to be thin. Why that would be vain! Could you imagine such a person that would be so self-absorbed that they wouldn't even realize how much of an asshole that would make him!
Now I am blushing :-[ Your words touch my heart.
QuoteI'm glad that none of us here are so simple minded that they would think that one plan would work for everyone. Smiley
But its simple science, take less calories in than you use and you'll loose weight. Lets have a toast to that logic, which clearly works for everyone. It not only works, its a blast! Cin Cin
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Quote from: DavidW on September 15, 2009, 07:05:15 PM
And Mozart, could you imagine the type of person that would tell a person to eat healthy when they just explained in detail in several posts that he does?
Sorry, I just wanted to raise this question while we're at it: I've always thought that it's
eat healthily, not
eat healthy. What is more correct?
Quote from: Papageno on September 16, 2009, 04:03:17 AM
Sorry, I just wanted to raise this question while we're at it: I've always thought that it's eat healthily, not eat healthy. What is more correct?
Oh you're right I need to use the adverb and not the adjective. Noted. :)
Not necessarily. Use of the adverb focuses on the verb, i.e., on the action; "eat healthily" to me suggests, e.g., chewing 30 times before swallowing. I don't have any quarrel with "eat healthy," which I think is more a matter of ellipsis than of using an adjective where one really needs an adverb.
But, I should take this to Cato's Grumble Emporium ;)
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 16, 2009, 04:29:04 AM
But, I should take this to Cato's Grumble Emporium ;)
Oh no please don't! I'm already in the doghouse for mixing bait and bate. :o :'(
;D
Oh, mercy! If I had a dollar for every time I've read "baited breath" 0:) 8)
Anyway, I remember the last of George Orwell's (was it?) rules for writers:
Break any of these rules before saying anything outright barbaric. And I confess that the phrase
eat healthily sounds nigh unto a barbarism to me ;D
Quote from: ChamberNut on September 16, 2009, 04:45:14 AM
DeBussy
A
nuther barbarism! ;D
I feel good well (duhduh-duhduh-duhduh-duh) I knew that I would....
Well, it's almost Friday. in a few hours this chubby little rodent needs to be out on an hour-long run. How's everyone doing?
Great thanks :)
Well I should be doing better. I don't feel hungry and then I eat a little...and then I suddenly work up a huge appetite.
I've got a little plan in mind >:D >:D
How are you?
Quote from: secondwind on September 24, 2009, 07:20:05 PM
Well, it's almost Friday. in a few hours this chubby little rodent needs to be out on an hour-long run. How's everyone doing?
I'm still hovering in the range 13s 13lb to 14s 2 lb, and seem to be stuck again. Last night I had a tantrum, bought a great heap of fish and chips from the local chippie, poured myself a huge glass of red wine, cried out to the universe 'Right then, take this!', and watched
Amadeus while eating the lot.
But today is another day.
Quote from: secondwind on September 24, 2009, 07:20:05 PM
Well, it's almost Friday. in a few hours this chubby little rodent needs to be out on an hour-long run. How's everyone doing?
I have my workout clothes on, so I guess I'll force myself out the door to Jazzercise with maybe a little extra weight training. Then a visit to the small farmers' market. I'm waiting for medical science to reveal that an all-carb diet and minimal exercise are good for you. :-\
I have to get back on that wagon.
Sounds like a fun night, Elgarian. Mozart, I'm a little worried about your plan. . . Anyway, this little rodent scurried around the neighborhood for an hour this morning, in the rain, probably about 4 miles, maybe a tad more. Feeling virtuous, I chowed down on a breakfast of eggs and sausage--turkey sausage, but still . . .
Quote from: MN Dave on September 25, 2009, 05:03:52 AM
I have to get back on that wagon.
No Dave, get OFF the wagon and hike!
Quote from: Harpo on September 25, 2009, 05:02:25 AM
Then a visit to the small farmers' market. I'm waiting for medical science to reveal that an all-carb diet and minimal exercise are good for you. :-\
Me, too! I'd like them also to specify minimum daily requirements of chocolate and wine as well. 0:)
Quote from: secondwind on September 25, 2009, 05:05:42 AM
No Dave, get OFF the wagon and hike!
I've been hiking a bit, but eating and drinking way more than I need.
Quote from: secondwind on September 25, 2009, 05:04:40 AM
Sounds like a fun night, Elgarian.
Well actually, it was more than fun. There have been consequences. You know that bit in
Amadeus where Wolfie and Salieri are eating some white gooey stuff, and Wolfie raves about it, and Salieri says it's made of cream cheese, sugar, and rum?
Well, I just tried an experiment.
Ingredients:100 grams (half a tub) of Philadelphia Extra Light cream cheese: 110 calories (only 4 grams of fat).
Artifical sweetener to taste (say 2 teaspoons): 0 calories
Whisky to taste (say half a measure? It's up to you): 27 calories
Total calories 137.Put cheese in bowl. Sprinkle sweetener on. Add whisky. Mix thoroughly. Put something by Mozart in the player. Take very small teaspoon and begin to eat in small spoonfuls.
It is
ambrosia, my friends. Even if you eat the whole lot yourself (and you will want to), you've only eaten the same number of calories as there are in a slice of bread. It has half the calories of a Mars bar and is at least twice as delicious. As a real treat, as something to satisfy the aching sweet tooth yet which won't make any serious inroads into the calorie counting, this may prove to be my most powerful secret weapon. Though not so secret now, of course.
Quote from: MN Dave on September 25, 2009, 05:12:30 AM
I've been hiking a bit, but eating and drinking way more than I need.
You need my wonderfood. See above.
Quote from: Elgarian on September 25, 2009, 08:54:57 AM
Well actually, it was more than fun. There have been consequences. You know that bit in Amadeus where Wolfie and Salieri are eating some white gooey stuff, and Wolfie raves about it, and Salieri says it's made of cream cheese, sugar, and rum?
Well, I just tried an experiment.
Ingredients:
100 grams (half a tub) of Philadelphia Extra Light cream cheese: 110 calories (only 4 grams of fat).
Artifical sweetener to taste (say 2 teaspoons): 0 calories
Whisky to taste (say half a measure? It's up to you): 27 calories
Total calories 137.
Put cheese in bowl. Sprinkle sweetener on. Add whisky. Mix thoroughly. Put something by Mozart in the player. Take very small teaspoon and begin to eat in small spoonfuls.
It is ambrosia, my friends. Even if you eat the whole lot yourself (and you will want to), you've only eaten the same number of calories as there are in a slice of bread. It has half the calories of a Mars bar and is at least twice as delicious. As a real treat, as something to satisfy the aching sweet tooth yet which won't make any serious inroads into the calorie counting, this may prove to be my most powerful secret weapon. Though not so secret now, of course.
Hm. I don't drink whisky. What brand should I get?
Quote from: MN Dave on September 25, 2009, 09:24:12 AM
Hm. I don't drink whisky. What brand should I get?
Doesn't matter. I'd have used rum (like Salieri) if I'd had any, but it was great with my whisky alternative. I used Famous Grouse, because I had some. (I don't think I'd want to use my single malts in this way!)
Quote from: Elgarian on September 25, 2009, 08:54:57 AM
Well actually, it was more than fun. There have been consequences. You know that bit in Amadeus where Wolfie and Salieri are eating some white gooey stuff, and Wolfie raves about it, and Salieri says it's made of cream cheese, sugar, and rum?
Well, I just tried an experiment.
Ingredients:
100 grams (half a tub) of Philadelphia Extra Light cream cheese: 110 calories (only 4 grams of fat).
Artifical sweetener to taste (say 2 teaspoons): 0 calories
Whisky to taste (say half a measure? It's up to you): 27 calories
Total calories 137.
Put cheese in bowl. Sprinkle sweetener on. Add whisky. Mix thoroughly. Put something by Mozart in the player. Take very small teaspoon and begin to eat in small spoonfuls.
It is ambrosia, my friends. Even if you eat the whole lot yourself (and you will want to), you've only eaten the same number of calories as there are in a slice of bread. It has half the calories of a Mars bar and is at least twice as delicious. As a real treat, as something to satisfy the aching sweet tooth yet which won't make any serious inroads into the calorie counting, this may prove to be my most powerful secret weapon. Though not so secret now, of course.
Hm, I've seen Amadeus at least 2 or 3 times . . . how'd I miss that recipe? Anyway, thanks! I'll pick up the needed supplies at the store today, then pick something out of the Big Box O' Mozart, and have a fun evening! Dave, I'll bet any whiskey will do--probably no need to go for the high priced stuff. I wonder how rum would be? I wonder about the addition of a little cocoa powder. . . I wonder how it would taste on fruit?
Quote from: secondwind on September 25, 2009, 09:32:00 AM
I wonder about the addition of a little cocoa powder. . . I wonder how it would taste on fruit?
These exciting experiments all lie ahead of us. I'd recommend in the first instance, though, the simple three-ingredient standard recipe, a la Wolfie, for something close to the authentic Amadeus experience. From then on, who knows where this might lead us ....? The addition of chocolate may take us closer to Beethoven; fruit might lead to Debussy. Musical sweet-gastronomy starts here.
Quote from: Elgarian on September 25, 2009, 09:29:37 AM
Doesn't matter. I'd have used rum (like Salieri) if I'd had any, but it was great with my whisky alternative. I used Famous Grouse, because I had some. (I don't think I'd want to use my single malts in this way!)
What about raspberry vodka?
Just a footnote. The texture is an important aspect of the experience, so go easy on the whisky - you don't want the stuff to go all runny. It should retain a stiff texture, like ice cream.
Quote from: MN Dave on September 25, 2009, 09:49:29 AM
What about raspberry vodka?
Well, each to his own, Dave. :o
You're saying that won't work?
By the way, I stole your recipe and posted it elsewhere on the Internet. ;D
This is sort of a make your own cheesecake type o' deal?
Quote from: MN Dave on September 25, 2009, 09:55:52 AM
You're saying that won't work?
No. I'm saying it will be ... different. (It may taste somewhat of raspberries, for instance.)
QuoteBy the way, I stole your recipe and posted it elsewhere on the Internet. ;D
1. It's not my recipe, it's Salieri's.
2. I have suspected for some time that you had an evil twin.
QuoteThis is sort of a make your own cheesecake type o' deal?
Well personally, I don't think it's anything like cheesecake. But I've never had cheesecake with whisky in it, so who knows?
Quote from: Elgarian on September 25, 2009, 12:04:38 PM
Well personally, I don't think it's anything like cheesecake. But I've never had cheesecake with whisky in it, so who knows?
I'm no cook. I was guessing. Anyway, thanks again!
Quote from: MN Dave on September 25, 2009, 12:12:56 PM
Anyway, thanks again!
Wait till you've tried it Dave. It's possible that one man's ambrosia is another's yuk.
Yes, if you use the wrong composer in your recipe, I can see yuk happening.
Quote from: MN Dave on September 25, 2009, 12:35:26 PM
Yes, if you use the wrong composer in your recipe, I can see yuk happening.
If you were wanting to listen to Elgar, you'd need to add a few spoonfuls of Earl Grey tea. The recipe is flexible enough to accommodate these variations. (Enigma Variations, that is.) For Sibelius, mix in a little powdered snow and pine sap.
Quote from: MN Dave on September 25, 2009, 09:49:29 AM
What about raspberry vodka?
Didn't Carrie Underwood sing about a guy like you?
I am perhaps not the only one that finds Karl making a reference to Carrie Underwood somewhat shocking. :o :D
Well, I am hoping earnestly that I won't be joining your club soon. :-\
After 40+ years as a cigar smoker, I quit last week, and smoked my last hanger-on last night. All well and good, since it likely wasn't the best thing for me, and no doubt something I truly enjoyed, but good is good.
Here's the potential problem though; I quit once before, back in the middle '70's, and managed to gain 25# in the first 6 weeks. :o Well, I can't afford another 25#, so I am taking all due precautions to avoid, including stopping by here on occasion to let you all berate me. I'll let you know how it's going, and if I am slipping over the ledge, you give me hell!
8)
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on October 05, 2009, 08:06:51 AM
Well, I am hoping earnestly that I won't be joining your club soon. :-\
After 40+ years as a cigar smoker, I quit last week, and smoked my last hanger-on last night. All well and good, since it likely wasn't the best thing for me, and no doubt something I truly enjoyed, but good is good.
Here's the potential problem though; I quit once before, back in the middle '70's, and managed to gain 25# in the first 6 weeks. :o Well, I can't afford another 25#, so I am taking all due precautions to avoid, including stopping by here on occasion to let you all berate me. I'll let you know how it's going, and if I am slipping over the ledge, you give me hell!
8)
No, we're a friendly group, we won't give you hell, we'll just give your support ;D. I remember reading (when I was quitting cigarettes) that tobacco interferes with digestion in some way, so smokers can eat more than nonsmokers. The sad truth for you: giving up tobacco means you need to eat LESS, not the same amount, to avoid gaining weight. Oh, and exercise more! Still, I'm glad you've kicked the cigar habit--cancer of the lip is no fun! Congratulations on taking a difficult step.
Quote from: secondwind on October 05, 2009, 09:05:03 AM
No, we're a friendly group, we won't give you hell, we'll just give your support ;D. I remember reading (when I was quitting cigarettes) that tobacco interferes with digestion in some way, so smokers can eat more than nonsmokers. The sad truth for you: giving up tobacco means you need to eat LESS, not the same amount, to avoid gaining weight. Oh, and exercise more!
It's all true, Gurn, alas. When I stopped smoking I put on a stone without even trying.
But here, we will feed you delicacies worthy of Mozart himself that will not add to your weight. (See above: my fiendishly delicious low-cal alternative to the dish Salieri gives Wolfie in
Amadeus).
(Has anyone else tried it yet? Or did people hate it but are just being polite?)
Quote from: Elgarian on October 05, 2009, 12:07:56 PM
(Has anyone else tried it yet? Or did people hate it but are just being polite?)
I haven't tried it though I've thought about it.
I have to get mad at it again and shed some of these pounds. >:(
Quote from: MN Dave on October 05, 2009, 12:18:36 PM
I haven't tried it though I've thought about it.
Well, that's nearly as good. (At least, that's what it says here, in my copy of the
Boys' Book of Ascetism).
Quote(Has anyone else tried it yet? Or did people hate it but are just being polite?)
Okay, Elgarian, at last I have tried it! I mixed it up according to directions, light cream cheese, sweetener, and whiskey (Kentucky sour mash). I'm calling it Salieri's Sweet and Sour-Mash Dip and I'm going to serve it with fresh fruit tomorrow. I expect it to be a smashing success!
Unfortunately, my exercise plan has been temporarily derailed by a cold/cough/flu/whatever that I've had for the past week. I finally went to the doctor yesterday, who gave me prescription cough medicine (oh yea, the good stuff!), and told me to stay home for the remainder of the week and rest. I hope to be able to run again next week, but at the moment there's no point in trying--anything requiring a deep breath brings on a coughing fit. Sigh. Even though I haven't had much appetite since I've been sick, I can feel pounds and flab creeping back on! >:(
Quote from: secondwind on October 07, 2009, 08:05:16 PM
Okay, Elgarian, at last I have tried it! I mixed it up according to directions, light cream cheese, sweetener, and whiskey (Kentucky sour mash). I'm calling it Salieri's Sweet and Sour-Mash Dip and I'm going to serve it with fresh fruit tomorrow. I expect it to be a smashing success!
I can't think of a better name for it. My wife tried a variant on it, made with honey instead of sweetener, and of course it was fabulous (I sampled a spoonful) - but no use for our purposes, because the whole point is to keep the calories and fat down to an absolute minimum - and the honey probably doubles the calories at a stroke.
QuoteUnfortunately, my exercise plan has been temporarily derailed by a cold/cough/flu/whatever that I've had for the past week. I finally went to the doctor yesterday, who gave me prescription cough medicine (oh yea, the good stuff!), and told me to stay home for the remainder of the week and rest. I hope to be able to run again next week, but at the moment there's no point in trying--anything requiring a deep breath brings on a coughing fit. Sigh. Even though I haven't had much appetite since I've been sick, I can feel pounds and flab creeping back on!
Oh bad luck! You've every right to feel sorry for yourself. After working at the exercise so hard, it's horrible to have your routine interrupted by a cold, knowing it's taking you a few steps backwards. What you can still do, of course - is
walk. If you feel well enough to do one or two gentle walks each day, you won't do yourself any harm (it's the elevated pulse rate that makes
running inadvisable when you have a virus infection), but merely by walking you'll still burn off some calories and help to keep your metabolic rate high while the cold is upon you.
Good idea. I'll try some walks for a few days before trying the run again.
I decided to get seriously mathematical (having found a useful free graph-plotting utility called, curiously enough, 'Graph'). I've taken the last 56 days of recording my weight, and calculated a series of 5-day running means, and then I've plotted those on the graph. The weight is relative to 14 stone, so below the x-axis is 13st-something. The optimistic target is 13, but if I get to 13st 8 I'll be well pleased.
Anyway, what's clear from the graph is that even a 5 day running mean has a lot of scatter in it, so it's not surprising there were times when I got discouraged because I seemed to be getting nowhere (look at the scatter on the points in the two weeks between day 25 and day 40 for instance). But the overall average trend (the best-fitting straight line) shows a loss of one pound every 10 days. So something really is happening, and the 'gorge yourself on melon, oranges and plums' technique seems to be working.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/Alan_/GCS0086-1.jpg)
Congratulations! I must buy more melon!
Hello, long lost Fat Ender friends!
I thought I'd check in to see how everyone else is doing. By now, if the trend in the graph continued, I expect Elgarian has wasted away to mere skin and bones. How about everyone else?
I am here in the Florida heat visiting my mother. Still working to re-establish the running routine that was interrupted when I got sick in October. Although I'm not up to the total time/distance I was running in September, at least I'm running again!
I have totally lost control of my weight. :P
Quote from: MN Dave on November 22, 2009, 05:04:53 AM
I have totally lost control of my weight. :P
Here is an anology of my dieting:
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Quote from: Bogey on November 22, 2009, 05:24:29 AM
Here is an anology of my dieting:
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Ouch, looks painful! Here's a tip--when I sense a diet nose-dive about to happen, I always aim for a New York cheesecake or a big tub of tiramisu--softer landing that way!
Quote from: secondwind on November 22, 2009, 04:07:19 AM
By now, if the trend in the graph continued, I expect Elgarian has wasted away to mere skin and bones.
Alas, no - here's the sad story:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/Alan_/GCS0089-1.jpg)
We went away for a week (you can see the 7-day gap) when I relaxed my efforts, and look at the consequences! Since then I'm going nowhere. Still trying, still being sensible most of the time, still exercising thoroughly, but unable to resist the odd biscuit here, the odd pudding there, and this is the result.
What happened to MNDave? Did he succeed? The avatar's changed.
Quote from: MN Dave on November 22, 2009, 05:04:53 AM
I have totally lost control of my weight. :P
Not me. I am rigorously following my diet and exercise plan and losing lots of weight.
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Quote from: MN Dave on November 22, 2009, 05:04:53 AM
I have totally lost control of my weight.
You think you have a problem? I asked my graph-plotting program to fit a quadratic to my measurements of weight and this is what it came up with:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/Alan_/GCS0090.jpg)
According to the mathematical extrapolation, if I keep going the way I am, for another 100 days of trying really quite hard, I'll put on 25 pounds!
Quote from: Elgarian on November 22, 2009, 12:17:12 PM
You think you have a problem? I asked my graph-plotting program to fit a quadratic to my measurements of weight and this is what it came up with:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/Alan_/GCS0090.jpg)
According to the mathematical extrapolation, if I keep going the way I am, for another 100 days of trying really quite hard, I'll put on 25 pounds!
Don't worry, you're not a parabola. :D
Elgarian, you crack me up. :D
Anyway, my weight is out of control! I'm in my worst shape since high school. But, that's what New Year's resolutions are for, right? 0:)
Holding fairly steady.
Quote from: Elgarian on November 22, 2009, 12:17:12 PM
You think you have a problem? I asked my graph-plotting program to fit a quadratic to my measurements of weight and this is what it came up with:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/Alan_/GCS0090.jpg)
According to the mathematical extrapolation, if I keep going the way I am, for another 100 days of trying really quite hard, I'll put on 25 pounds!
Well, I haven't graphed my numbers, but I'm afraid the news would be about the same. So I'll just have to try harder. It is a bit depressing how quickly the progress can be lost. . .
It's soooooo HARD. :'(
Quote from: MN Dave on November 24, 2009, 11:29:47 AM
It's soooooo HARD. :'(
Don't forget, there's always the Amadeus Special Super Nectar.
I haven't made any yet. ;D
Quote from: MN Dave on November 24, 2009, 11:32:09 AM
I haven't made any yet.
I'm coming round to the belief that a life without Salieri's Superdip isn't really a life at all.
Salieri's Sheep-Dip
So the sheep have given me to understand.
Ran 45 minutes this am. Saw a white-tailed deer and a chicken (?), but no sheep. :D
Good on you. :)
I have to remember my stomach might not need something my mouth wants. :) If only we could turn on and off our taste buds.
I'm not even going to try to turn off the taste buds tomorrow ;D. I'll run in the morning, then eat the rest of the day! But after tomorrow, sanity and restraint must prevail.
I've been making some good progress in the last few weeks, and when I plotted the results out on my graphplotter, thought it might be interesting to see the best-fitting third order polynomial. Well, wow - look at this:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/Alan_/GCS0092-1.jpg)
According to this, in the next 40-50 days, I'm in serious danger of floating away! Isn't mathematics wonderful?
(The zero position on the y-axis is 14 stone.)
Yes, Elgarian, you will blow away in the first breeze! I, on the other hand, am still a substantial presence ;D. Not likely to blow away any time soon. ;D I've been afraid to subject myself to the humiliation of the weigh-in, so I can't plot my weight fluctuations as you have. I am running again, although not always every day (weather) and not quite back to an hour (45-50 minutes). My legs are more muscular, and some clothes fit better. That will have to do for now.
Quote from: secondwind on December 14, 2009, 06:18:32 PM
That will have to do for now.
The bad news, SW, is that Christmas is on the not-far-distant horizon. Christmas pudding; cake; port; nuts. Oh dear, oh dear. What are we going to do about that?
Quote from: Elgarian on December 15, 2009, 12:24:19 AM
The bad news, SW, is that Christmas is on the not-far-distant horizon. Christmas pudding; cake; port; nuts. Oh dear, oh dear. What are we going to do about that?
:P
Quote from: secondwind on December 15, 2009, 03:36:30 AM
:P
Yes, we could respond thus.
Or we could say no, no, no. I will have a boiled egg and a nice glass of water for Christmas dinner, and it will be lovely.
Right?
:'(
Ooo. Argh. Have they invented a fat loss pill yet? Ergh. Oog.
Quote from: Elgarian on December 15, 2009, 11:03:39 AM
Yes, we could respond thus.
Or we could say no, no, no. I will have a boiled egg and a nice glass of water for Christmas dinner, and it will be lovely.
Right?
:'(
>:(
If you have an iPhone, get yourself the Lose It! app.
http://www.loseit.com/
Sweet. :)
Daily calorie budget: 2189
Weight today: 264.5
Here we go again...
Quote from: Dave of MN on December 23, 2009, 08:31:15 AM
Daily calorie budget: 2189
Weight today: 264.5
Here we go again...
I won't post my stats, but I have been holding steady at a weight I don't want. This week I re-joined Weight Watchers Online to try to keep myself honest. So far I'm over my points limit, with no one to blame but myself. >:(
No company coming, so no sumptuous holiday dinners planned, though Sonic and I are planning a rare Xmas treat of garlic mashed potatoes.
Anyone other runners getting frustrated by the weather? Secondwind?
It's not the snow but the underlying ice; I can barely get to the end of the street without breaking my neck so haven't been for a run for over two weeks. :-\ This is pretty annoying as I lose fitness very quickly. :'(
This has got to be the hardest time of the year (as opposed to the most wonderful time of the year) for sticking to a diet plan. Well, this and Thanksgiving.
So many goodies in your face all the time during this season.
Oh well, I give in - twist my rubber arm. :D
Quote from: Novi on December 23, 2009, 09:15:39 AM
Anyone other runners getting frustrated by the weather? Secondwind?
It's not the snow but the underlying ice; I can barely get to the end of the street without breaking my neck so haven't been for a run for over two weeks. :-\ This is pretty annoying as I lose fitness very quickly. :'(
treadmill...
Quote from: Dave of MN on December 23, 2009, 09:27:39 AM
treadmill...
Same here - have a bike & treadmill in the basement (along w/ another bike for Harpo) - just need electricity and of course the motivation, always the hardest part! ;D
Now, we've been doing more 'trail hiking' & walking paths lately, but this is certainly not the season! :-\
Quote from: Novi on December 23, 2009, 09:15:39 AM
Anyone other runners getting frustrated by the weather? Secondwind?
It's not the snow but the underlying ice; I can barely get to the end of the street without breaking my neck so haven't been for a run for over two weeks. :-\ This is pretty annoying as I lose fitness very quickly. :'(
I've taken to doing it in the early morning or late night on the road (the only surface that has grip). As it's a holiday season, there aren't many cars in the morning, and when one comes I step on the path until it passes.
Quote from: Dave of MN on December 23, 2009, 08:31:15 AM
Daily calorie budget: 2189
Weight today: 264.5
Here we go again...
Eff you, vessel! 265.5. You want a fight?; you got one!
Quote from: Novi on December 23, 2009, 09:15:39 AM
Anyone other runners getting frustrated by the weather? Secondwind?
It's not the snow but the underlying ice; I can barely get to the end of the street without breaking my neck so haven't been for a run for over two weeks. :-\ This is pretty annoying as I lose fitness very quickly. :'(
Yes, the snow/ice has really interfered with my program. (That's it--it's the snow and ice.. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!) But now that the roads in my neighborhood are pretty much clear, I should be getting back to daily running. . . unless it rains tomorrow!
Down a pound...again.
Go, Dave, go!
I was making progress until I went to "Carols, Cookies and Cocoa" yesterday and just had to try all the cookies, mostly homemade, not to mention chocolate truffles and a yummy almond coffee cake. That Little Devil voice kept whispering "Just one more." The voice receded today, I think.
Quote from: Dave of MN on December 25, 2009, 05:34:02 AM
Down a pound...again.
Already you seem like a man who needs a graph-plotting program. (Not that it helps in any significant way, but it provides hours of family fun.)
My Lose It! app has a graph.
Up a pound again. >:(
Quote from: Dave of MN on December 26, 2009, 05:44:55 AM
My Lose It! app has a graph.
Then you have every reason to be a happy and fulfilled specimen of Graph-Plotting Weight-Recording Man.
QuoteUp a pound again.
Look on the bright side: think how bad you'd have felt if you hadn't lost one yesterday.
According to Lose It!, I should be losing two pounds a week at this level of caloric intake, however the body seems to be resisting.
We will not give up. :)
Quote from: Dave of MN on December 26, 2009, 06:39:07 AM
According to Lose It!, I should be losing two pounds a week at this level of caloric intake, however the body seems to be resisting.
I'm gradually proving what I knew already - that as the body gets used to lower calorie intake, the metabolic rate slows down so the weight loss is always less than predicted. Bearing in mind that even ignoring that factor, to lose a pound of body fat we have to reduce our calorie intake by 3,500 calories, realistically it's going to be a lot slower than 2 pounds a week for most of us.
So I think the trick is not merely to eat fewer calories, but also to be persistent and
move more to keep the metabolic rate up. I'm trying to walk more often - little short strolls scattered through the day in addition to my daily 40 mins on the exercise bike. However, right now I have a bad cold, so that's the end of my bike sessions for a while: all I feel like doing is curling up in a ball and shivering quietly in between sneezes.
Yeah, I'm doing the iPod/treadmill thing.
Quote from: Elgarian on December 26, 2009, 06:48:41 AM
I'm gradually proving what I knew already - that as the body gets used to lower calorie intake, the metabolic rate slows down so the weight loss is always less than predicted. Bearing in mind that even ignoring that factor, to lose a pound of body fat we have to reduce our calorie intake by 3,500 calories, realistically it's going to be a lot slower than 2 pounds a week for most of us.
So I think the trick is not merely to eat fewer calories, but also to be persistent and move more to keep the metabolic rate up. I'm trying to walk more often - little short strolls scattered through the day in addition to my daily 40 mins on the exercise bike. However, right now I have a bad cold, so that's the end of my bike sessions for a while: all I feel like doing is curling up in a ball and shivering quietly in between sneezes.
Sorry to hear you're sick, Elgarian! Get well soon. Until then, I recommend cocoa with peppermint schnapps! (just get the sugar-free cocoa mix and use fat-free milk. . . )
Mend quickly, Elgarian!
Ah .... Ah ........ Ah......... Tishoo!
Down 1 1/2.
Quote from: Dave of MN on December 27, 2009, 01:52:50 PM
Down 1 1/2.
Well done Dave.
As for me, I'm up 5. Yes,
5. Having this cold, I've been coddling myself for three days (i.e. no exercise), and foolishly stood on the scales yesterday 'just to see'.
Up 5! I mean, where's the fairness or sense in that? Come on, Universe! Explain yourself!
(It
has to be water retention, doesn't it? I mean, to put on 5 pounds, I'd have to have consumed over 15,000 calories in the last few days and converted all of them to fat!)
Hope you feel better, sir.
I'm down another pound.
Quote from: Dave of MN on December 28, 2009, 04:53:06 AM
I'm down another pound.
You're not sending all those pounds you're losing over to me, are you Dave?
Quote from: Elgarian on December 28, 2009, 08:23:36 AM
You're not sending all those pounds you're losing over to me, are you Dave?
No, I can attest that he's sending them to ME! :o
The law of fat says it has to go somewhere. 0:)
Quote from: Dave of MN on December 28, 2009, 11:53:07 AM
The law of fat says it has to go somewhere. 0:)
Well then, according to the Law of Fat:
Weight gained by me (x) + weight gained by SW (y) - weight lost by MN Dave (z) should be zero
We know that x=5 pounds and z=2.5 pounds, therefore:
5 + y - 2.5 should be zero
So 2.5 +y should be zero
We do not at present know the value of y (SW hasn't told us) but we DO know that y is positive.
Therefore 2.5 +y
cannot be zero.
Conclusion:
Somebody else out there, as well as MN Dave, is dumping their fat on SW and me!
No change: 263
(I'm 6'5" by the way, so I'm not a rolly-poly.)
Another pound lost in space.
Quote from: Dave of MN on December 31, 2009, 05:06:49 AM
Another pound lost in space.
No it's not. I have it, here.
Oops. You gave it back to me. >:(
I will weigh in today. Should be ugly, but I need to give it another try. Maybe if I connect my weight loss to buying cds? Hmmm, every pound I get 1 cd for it and if I go up again I cannot get a new one until I break my low. Either I will lose weight or save money.
You're a brave man, Bogey. I'm headed out to run now. Not sure about weighing in, though! Let's get the new year started right!
Quote from: secondwind on January 01, 2010, 07:37:58 AM
You're a brave man, Bogey. I'm headed out to run now. Not sure about weighing in, though! Let's get the new year started right!
:D
Just weighed:
225.5
Heaviest I have been during my 44 years on this planet. :-X
Lost it again. :)
Quote from: Bogey on January 01, 2010, 08:07:33 AM
Just weighed:
225.5
Heaviest I have been during my 44 years on this planet. :-X
Okay, so now you've faced the awful truth! :o The only purpose of weigh-ins is to help measure progress toward your goal and to provide motivation for the changes you/we need to make. The purpose is NOT to make you miserable! 225.5 is just a number, it is the starting line, not the finish line.
I'm now working on getting motivated to go out in the cold, cold wind and run around the neighborhood some more. ;D There very thought of weighing in ought to be enough to get me out there! 8)
Another pound lost. 51 to go. :-X
Go, Dave! Now, if I can just dodge that excess pound you have released into the universe, which even as I type this is trying to attach itself to my body somewhere. . .
I did run yesterday, but the cold and the windchill drove me inside after about half of my usual time (my ears were threatening to break off). I'm afraid that means I'll have to be working out at the gym for awhile, which means I'll be near the scale. . . . :-\ Am I ready to face the truth? (Cue Jack Nicholson--"You want the TRUTH? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!)
With just a treadmill and a calorie counter, I am down 10 pounds since Dec. 18. 260 pounds today. 50 to go till the ideal weight.
Quote from: Dave of MN on January 04, 2010, 05:00:45 AM
With just a treadmill and a calorie counter, I am down 10 pounds since Dec. 18.
I stand in awe.
Dave, do you mind if I sit in awe?
Awe shucks. ;D
Well here's an unpleasant trend. (My goal is about 155, which is healthily above average for a 5' 8" guy.)
August 2008: 182
December 2008: 180
May 2009: 168
August 2009: 167
December 2009: 179
Ouch! Lots of ground to make up. This school year, time to reinstate the program I had in place in early 2009: PE class, nightly walks with iPod, small portion sizes and eating slowly. The only problem is that due to friendgroup changes, I don't have somebody to split meals with at restaurants anymore. We'll see what happens. Target for May is to get down to about 165.
Quote from: Brian on January 04, 2010, 11:14:08 AM
Well here's an unpleasant trend. (My goal is about 155.)
August 2008: 182
December 2008: 180
May 2009: 168
August 2009: 167
December 2009: 179
Ouch! Lots of ground to make up. This school year, time to reinstate the program I had in place in early 2009: PE class, nightly walks with iPod, small portion sizes and eating slowly. The only problem is that due to friendgroup changes, I don't have somebody to split meals with at restaurants anymore. We'll see what happens. Target for May is to get down to about 165.
Easy-peasy. Don't eat more than 1650 calories a day. And move around a little. ;D
Quote from: Dave of MN on January 04, 2010, 11:16:43 AM
move around a little. ;D
Suppose I walk over to my desk, where the box of chocolates is... :D
Quote from: Brian on January 04, 2010, 11:18:49 AM
Suppose I walk over to my desk, where the box of chocolates is... :D
Just don't eat more than 1650 calories worth. ;D
Quote from: Brian on January 04, 2010, 11:14:08 AM
The only problem is that due to friendgroup changes, I don't have somebody to split meals with at restaurants anymore.
Don't be shy of taking some back home for the next morning, rather than finishing the plate then and there.
Up .5
I've lost 25 lbs over 5 weeks of Weight Watchers at work. Only 75 more to go. *headdesk* I can't believe I let myself get 100 lbs overweight. Srsly, it's not like I just woke up one morning morbidly obese. WTF, self?! :'(
Quote from: Pére Malfait on January 05, 2010, 06:11:26 AM
I've lost 25 lbs over 5 weeks of Weight Watchers at work. Only 75 more to go. *headdesk* I can't believe I let myself get 100 lbs overweight. Srsly, it's not like I just woke up one morning morbidly obese. WTF, self?! :'(
Yeah, that's the way it happens. Nice work, sir.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 04, 2010, 11:36:24 AM
Don't be shy of taking some back home for the next morning, rather than finishing the plate then and there.
Easy at a pasta joint, somewhat tougher with burgers. ;D I usually do take home a box, though...
Quote from: Pére Malfait on January 05, 2010, 06:11:26 AM
I've lost 25 lbs over 5 weeks of Weight Watchers at work. Only 75 more to go. *headdesk* I can't believe I let myself get 100 lbs overweight. Srsly, it's not like I just woke up one morning morbidly obese. WTF, self?! :'(
You are making incredible progress! Somehow it is soo much easier to put on 25 lbs than to take them off!
I did 50 minutes of jogging in the neighborhood today. Now, to stay away from the last of the Christmas goodies . . .
Back down half a pound.
I've hit the ...
________260__________
plateau.
(http://i49.tinypic.com/fto3k9.gif)
That's terrible, he may have injured his back.
Quote from: Spud on January 07, 2010, 06:11:12 AM
I've hit the ...
________260__________
plateau.
You're a tall fellow, yes? Remind me of your height?
Gosh, you'd tower even over me.
I'm usually sitting down.
Well, not seated, you wouldn't tower over me. I'm no Danny De Vito.
Quote from: Spud on January 07, 2010, 06:54:54 AM
6'5"
Gee, if I were 6' 5" my weight would be about right! Unfortunately I'm more like 5' 6", or maybe 5' 7" if I stand up straight. :(
If I tell certain people I'm trying to lose weight, they look at me like I'm crazy. But according to the charts, I'm well over.
My ultimate goal weight is 165 or less (I'm 5'9"), but I may not be able to achieve that due to having to take prednisone (plus sildenafil & ventavis) for Pulmonary Hypertension. At this point, though, I'd honestly be happy with anything under 200. :(
Quote from: Spud on January 07, 2010, 09:03:42 AM
If I tell certain people I'm trying to lose weight, they look at me like I'm crazy. But according to the charts, I'm well over.
Some kind, misguided people tell me that I don't need to lose weight. They are wrong, of course. :-[ And my doctor is never one of those people who says "oh, you don't have to worry about your weight!" ;D I guess he's got some charts, too.
1/1/10: 225.5
1/8/10: 222
Good job.
Thanks. Watching what I eat. Fruit for breakfast. Protein drink for lunch (which is actually very satisfying....110 calories). For dinner, whatever we are eating. Some nights I may have a bowl of Wheaties before bed. That is about it. Added a 50 minute exercise bike ride to the mix each day as well. I do not have a goal, save one. Weigh less than I do now each Friday. I do not care if it is 3lbs. or half a pound. Just weigh less. If for some reason I gain a bit, then next week weigh less than the previous Friday. So, my goal is weekly, without specifics. It keeps me focused and gives me ample time to accomplish it.
Quote from: secondwind on January 07, 2010, 08:50:36 AM
Gee, if I were 6' 5" my weight would be about right! Unfortunately I'm more like 5' 6", or maybe 5' 7" if I stand up straight. :(
At a stroke you have solved the problem! Here we all are, trying to lose weight - how foolish! What we
really need to do is
make ourselves taller!
A Bill sighting!
Another pound goes down...
Quote from: mn dave on January 09, 2010, 04:59:04 AM
Another pound goes down...
That's old science. What we want to see is another millimeter being added.
I know a David that's exactly 6'5" and if I remember right, somewhere around 270-290 pounds. He likes to talk a lot, but he's unlike MN he's not very smart. Actually, I still haven't gone bowling with him... if I see him today, I'll ask since Sunday is the day he wants me to go.
And now that I think about it, there's another Dave where I work that fits a similar description... I think they're a bit common.
Those are my clones. Be kind to them.
I've lost 6 pounds in three weeks. Right on target: two pounds per week. But that's eating fewer calories than my program claims I can.
Couple more have dropped off. :)
Yay, Dave!
Quote from: mn dave on January 14, 2010, 08:17:19 PM
Couple more have dropped off. :)
Hoorah! (My cheer is provisional on assuming you mean pounds, and not toes or arms?)
Yes, just fat so far. I'll let you know if I lose any body parts. :o
Dec. 18: 270 lbs.
Jan. 15: 257.5
"New legs for old! New legs for old!"
1/1/10: 225.5
1/8/10: 222
1/15/10: 218
Up a pound. :-[ I think it was the chili.
CHILI BAAAD. >:(
Down 2. :)
Down another. 255.5
Quote from: Beethovenian on January 16, 2010, 06:05:49 AM
Up a pound. :-[ I think it was the chili.
CHILI BAAAD. >:(
Chili - at least, the pepper itself - apparently speeds up the metabolism due to the heat. I was considering looking into this, but then realised that only eating boiling hot things every day for health purposes is taking it a bit far...
Quote from: Lethe on January 22, 2010, 07:15:42 AM
Chili - at least, the pepper itself - apparently speeds up the metabolism due to the heat. I was considering looking into this, but then realised that only eating boiling hot things every day for health purposes is taking it a bit far...
You can make the contrary argument. Your body maintains constant temperature. If you eat cold things your body has to heat that material up to body temperature, which requires energy.
Quote from: Scarpia on January 22, 2010, 08:52:18 AM
You can make the contrary argument. Your body maintains constant temperature. If you eat cold things your body has to heat that material up to body temperature, which requires energy.
Hmm, or maybe between alternating the two extremes throughout the day... this could be bigger than the Atkins diet...
"Just eat icecream and chili"
I'm there! :D
Quote from: Lethe on January 22, 2010, 08:57:39 AM
Hmm, or maybe between alternating the two extremes throughout the day... this could be bigger than the Atkins diet...
"Just eat icecream and chili"
Ice cubes and boiling water.
1/1/10: 225.5
1/8/10: 222
1/15/10: 218
1/22/10: 216.5
Quote from: Bogey on January 23, 2010, 05:42:23 AM
1/1/10: 225.5
1/8/10: 222
1/15/10: 218
1/22/10: 216.5
You put me to shame. . . and good for you!
Good for you, Bogey. :)
Thanks, folks. Believe it or not this thread actually is a wonderful motivating tool since I have to report weekly. Interesting how that works.
Awesome Bill! :) I've been losing some weight recently, but that's not based on a diet, I picked up a couple of "Eat This Not That" books and use them to pick alternatives that are lower on calories, fat, sugar and salt. I want to enjoy what I eat while still being lazy about it, and just not consume as much. Seems to work. :)
Quote from: DavidW on January 23, 2010, 07:57:41 AM
Awesome Bill! :) I've been losing some weight recently, but that's not based on a diet, I picked up a couple of "Eat This Not That" books and use them to pick alternatives that are lower on calories, fat, sugar and salt. I want to enjoy what I eat while still being lazy about it, and just not consume as much. Seems to work. :)
Great work, David. Sounds like something that I should add into what I am already doing. Might you post one of the books you use here?
Well, I'm going out for a walk now . . . .
Quote from: Bogey on January 23, 2010, 10:54:40 AM
Great work, David. Sounds like something that I should add into what I am already doing. Might you post one of the books you use here?
There are a billion of 'em, but these are the two that I got:
http://www.amazon.com/This-That-Supermarket-Survival-Guide/dp/1605298387 (http://www.amazon.com/This-That-Supermarket-Survival-Guide/dp/1605298387)
http://www.amazon.com/This-That-Restaurant-Survival-Guide/dp/160529540X (http://www.amazon.com/This-That-Restaurant-Survival-Guide/dp/160529540X)
8)
Very nice 50-minute walk.
Quote from: Bogey on January 23, 2010, 05:42:23 AM
1/1/10: 225.5
1/8/10: 222
1/15/10: 218
1/22/10: 216.5
Stupendous. However, I think all your pounds, like MN Dave's, are finding their way onto me.
Down another 4 lbs this week, for a total loss of 32 lbs. Not bad for 8 weeks. Almost 1/3 of the way there; only 68 more lbs to go! 8)
That's fast, dude. My plan is for two pounds a week. So far, so good.
Oh, I know I won't be able to keep up that average loss per week. I"m fully expecting my loss to plateau at 2 lbs or less a week once I got down in the 210's. And I also know that once I get down around 200, that last 35 - 40 lbs will be tortuous. But I'm determined!
Quote from: Pére Malfait on January 26, 2010, 10:06:46 AM
Oh, I know I won't be able to keep up that average loss per week. I"m fully expecting my loss to plateau at 2 lbs or less a week once I got down in the 210's. And I also know that once I get down around 200, that last 35 - 40 lbs will be tortuous. But I'm determined!
I'll do a 1200 calorie diet if I run into any plateaus I don't like. ;D
Just back from another lovely walk around the pond.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 26, 2010, 10:35:16 AM
Just back from another lovely walk around the pond.
You walked around the entire Atlantic ocean!? How did you do that!? :o
;D
I've finally decided I'm ready to lose weight. So how does this thread work? I'm too lazy to skim 30 pages of posts, so I thought I'd just ask. ;D Is there more to it than reporting weekly weight loss (or gain) and discussing weight-loss related topics? Assuming I'm on track, here's my first report:
1/24: 211 :(
Not the most I've ever weighed, but nowhere near where I want to be (and should be).
It's a free-for-all, dude. Post what thou will. And good luck!
Quote from: Keemun on January 26, 2010, 05:07:36 PM
I've finally decided I'm ready to lose weight. So how does this thread work? I'm too lazy to skim 30 pages of posts, so I thought I'd just ask. ;D Is there more to it than reporting weekly weight loss (or gain) and discussing weight-loss related topics? Assuming I'm on track, here's my first report:
1/24: 211 :(
Keemun - you need to first determine 'how much' overweight you my be? Check out your BMI (body mass index) which is calculated from your height & weight - just 'google' BMI for a formula - I'm currently in the 'overweight' category (not bad but I'd like to lose at least 10 pounds or more!) - if you fall into the 'obese' or above category, then 'weight loss' would certainly be a goal for many reasons.
If you want to lose weight, then there are certainly many options, but the best to adjust your eating habits and to add some type of exercise routine to your daily life - basically calories in and calories out! Keep in mind that a pound of weight to about 3600 cal! BOY - shocking! A few days ago I walked on my treadmill for 2.5 miles taking me 1 hour - this equated to just over 500 calories, i.e. a bottle of wine! So routine exercise is recommended, but unless you're a 'lumberjack' cutting down trees all day, this will not need to much weight reduction, but still GOOD to do! So, you need to balance your calories and your diet. Good luck - :)
Welcome, Keemun! By the way, I've always liked your signature!
I'm 5'6" so my BMI is 34.1, which makes me "obese." >:( Using BMI as the gauge, I need to lose 26 pounds to reach a BMI of 29.9 and become just "overweight." To reach a "normal" weight with a BMI of 24.9, I need to lose 57 pounds.
Thanks for the well-wishes, everyone. :)
Quote from: Keemun on January 27, 2010, 07:44:51 AM
I'm 5'6" so my BMI is 34.1, which makes me "obese." >:( Using BMI as the gauge, I need to lose 26 pounds to reach a BMI of 29.9 and become just "overweight." To reach a "normal" weight with a BMI of 24.9, I need to lose 57 pounds.
Thanks for the well-wishes, everyone. :)
I just want to add that I completely disagree with Dave. BMI is not a good indicator, it's pseudo-science froo-froo invented in an older day. It's simply not an intelligent measure of how overweight you are simply due to the fact there are healthy people that have poor BMI's and unhealthy people with excellent BMI's. Health "science" has not matured yet and many issues regarding diets and health simply lack a scientific foundation or even factual knowledge. For instance we still don't know many things about what constitutes a healthy diet, and how important are the different aspects of the diet are.
I just don't want to set your goal on something as artificial as the BMI. :-\
Quote from: DavidW on January 27, 2010, 08:11:29 AM
I just don't want to set your goal on something as artificial as the BMI. :-\
My weight loss goals are based on two factors: (1) physical appearance, and (2) health. I don't like how my clothes fit or how I look in (or out of) them. And I know I have an increased risk for various diseases and conditions because of my weight.
I view BMI as one tool for determining a healthy weight. Waist-to-height ratio is another (although it technically doesn't measure weight). I'm not a scientist, dietitian or medical doctor, so I rely on those people for guidance (though not blindly). I understand what you are saying about BMI, and health science in general. Heck, when I was a kid we learned about the "Four Food Groups" and somewhere along the way the powers that be decided replace them with a "Food Pyramid." I'm not trying to start a new debate about the Food Pyramid, I'm just illustrating the point that research and experience are constantly providing new ideas about what is best for our health. Sometimes the scientists are proven wrong, or at least not entirely correct. But I see no problem with using BMI as a guide in determining weight loss goals. If someone comes up with something better I'll be happy to consider it.
Keep 'er trending down, Dave!
Question for swimmers:
I haven't been running regularly for the past 2 or 3 months due to a couple of injuries so I went swimming the other day (the first time since 1991, eek!). Whilst I'm not fat-ending so much as fit-seeking (although I seem to have acquired a little pot belly in the meantime - buoyancy aid, perhaps? :D), I'm not sure that this swimming business is such a good idea. I spent a leisurely 40 minutes in the pool but was so starving afterwards that I went home and ate dinner twice. Hmm... :-\
Is this a swimming thing? ??? I don't think I've ever felt so ravenous before...
Quote from: Beethovenian on January 26, 2010, 10:12:18 AM
I'll do a 1200 calorie diet if I run into any plateaus I don't like. ;D
:o
How would you even physically survive off of that? ???
Quote from: Greg on January 29, 2010, 06:15:54 PM
:o
How would you even physically survive off of that? ???
I think that's the bare minimum advisable, although I once read this "philosopher's diet" book that wanted you to eat 900! :o
1/1/10: 225.5
1/8/10: 222
1/15/10: 218
1/22/10: 216.5
1/29/10 217
Hmmm. Did not eat more than the other weeks and worked out just as hard. Oh, well. At least maintaining good habits so I will keep on the track that I started and see where it leads over the next two weeks.
Quote from: Beethovenian on January 29, 2010, 06:49:11 PM
I think that's the bare minimum advisable, although I once read this "philosopher's diet" book that wanted you to eat 900! :o
:o
Quote from: Beethovenian on January 29, 2010, 06:49:11 PM
I once read this "philosopher's diet" book that wanted you to eat 900! :o
'What's for dinner, dear?'
'Roast Wittgenstein for main course, and Plato Pie for pudding.'
I don't think I'm able to name 900 philosophers, let alone eat them.
Hee.
I think he wanted you to eat bran muffins that you made yourself after running 900 miles. ;)
http://www.amazon.com/Philosophers-Diet-Weight-Change-Nonpareil/dp/1567920845/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264860650&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Philosophers-Diet-Weight-Change-Nonpareil/dp/1567920845/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264860650&sr=8-1)
Quote from: Beethovenian on January 31, 2010, 06:26:52 AM
253 this morning.
Pounds weight, or philosophers consumed?
Angels dancing on my head.
Quote from: Beethovenian on January 31, 2010, 08:05:38 AM
Angels dancing on my head.
Excuse me, are you in fact a Pinhead? Any relation to Zippy the?
Only if that's a compliment. ;)
Weekly weigh-in this morning, results as follows:
1/24: 211
1/31: 208 :)
I usually lose more than that the first week of a new diet, but I wasn't particularly faithful to my plan, so 3 pounds is still good. I doubt that I can strictly follow a particular diet program. They all seem to have their pros and cons and I tend to focus on the cons. So this leaves me with loosely following a diet and generally trying to make good food choices. But my experience with this is that it gives me a lot of room to justify poor food choices. So I'll have to see how Week 2 goes and adjust accordingly (and hopefully not quit altogether). :-[
Is anyone here following a particular diet program? If so, which one? If not, what is your basis for deciding what and how much to eat? I've done Weight Watchers (online), South Beach Diet and The Abs Diet, with varying degrees of success.
As for exercise, I'm not ready to get started with that yet. Too much change too fast is a recipe for disaster! :o
Quote from: Keemun on January 31, 2010, 01:42:58 PM
If not, what is your basis for deciding what and how much to eat?
After using the eat this, not that books for awhile, I'm developing a good intuition for good vs. bad in terms of
good:
protein
fiber
veggies
short ingredient list
bad:
fats, especially transfats
sugars
sodium
high calorie density (as in per gram)
That sounds obvious, but the key part is knowing by g and calories whether it's good, okay or bad, which is not obvious because it's based on comparison and the actual amount that you'll eat (the per serving can be made to be a convenient trick!). And of course avoiding false/misleading advertising such as "lite" and "multi grain" for example. Anyway no special diet just making substitutions. I am losing weight, and I'm eating as much as I did before. And I don't get as hungry as I used to get, which is cool.
Quote from: Beethovenian on January 29, 2010, 06:49:11 PM
I think that's the bare minimum advisable, although I once read this "philosopher's diet" book that wanted you to eat 900! :o
Wow.
This is how I imagine the Q & A section at the back of the book to be:
Q: What's for breakfast?
A: Peanut butter and jelly and water.
Q: What's for lunch?
A: Peanut butter and jelly and water.
Q: What's for dinner?
A: Peanut butter and jelly and water.
Q: Can i have dessert?
A: No.
Q: Can i have a snack?
A: No.
Q: Will I die soon?
A: Yeah.
Quote from: Greg on January 31, 2010, 05:19:57 PM
This is how I imagine the Q & A section at the back of the book to be:
Q: What's for breakfast?
A: Peanut butter and jelly and water.
Q: What's for lunch?
A: Peanut butter and jelly and water.
Q: What's for dinner?
A: Peanut butter and jelly and water.
Q: Can i have dessert?
A: No.
Q: Can i have a snack?
A: No.
Q: Will I die soon?
A: Yeah.
That's probably a fine summary, except for the bits about peanut butter and jelly.
No. I said "bran muffins".
wooot!
Down another 4.0 lbs this week, for a total loss of 35.4. Only 64.6 more to go!
That's great!
Quote from: Elgarian on January 31, 2010, 09:33:38 PM
That's probably a fine summary, except for the bits about peanut butter and jelly.
Oh, of course... what was I thinking? Probably just replace the 300 calories each meal to 300 calories of broccoli or carrots... :D
Quote from: Beethovenian on February 04, 2010, 08:35:14 AM
250.5 8)
And in 4 or 5 days... nice!
Nice to see everyone's progress after months :)
Just a question, when you get to your desired weight will you revert back to a normal diet? A diet has to be permanent for you to keep the weight off, so I hope besides the weight loss, you also enjoy the foods you are typically eating.
I weighed myself today and came in 10 lbs lighter from a couple of weeks back! :)
Quote from: Mozart on February 04, 2010, 07:46:40 PM
Nice to see everyone's progress after months :)
Just a question, when you get to your desired weight will you revert back to a normal diet? A diet has to be permanent for you to keep the weight off, so I hope besides the weight loss, you also enjoy the foods you are typically eating.
Lowering your calories to lose weight, you find out how much you really need to eat: A lot less than before. I don't see an major adjustments that will need to be made as long as I watch my calories carefully as I do now.
I used to time my workouts but currently use calories burned to determine when I'm finished. 400 each workout (five days a week).
1/1/10: 225.5
1/8/10: 222
1/15/10: 218
1/22/10: 216.5
1/29/10 217
Wow. Great week for you folks. I stuck with my routine and did not panic after last week. It seems to have paid off. :)
2/5/10 214.5
Well done, Bill (& al.)!
Nice job hangin' in there, Bill.
That's great, everyone who lost weight this week!
I'm not looking forward to my weigh-in results of this week. I started out fine, but the slippery slope had me eating some of the same old junk by the end of the week. But I do plan to get back on track next week, so hopefully I won't have too much to make up.
I haven't been saying anything in this thread recently. This is because (please use your skill and judgement to select the correct reason):
1. I am losing so much weight that I don't want to discourage you all.
2. I don't want to appear arrogant by boasting of my success.
3. I am quietly desperate, having gained as much weight in the last two months as I lost in the previous six.
[Hint: the answer is an odd number greater than 1.)
Winter can be like that. But spring, the time of new beginnings, will be here soon, so don't lose heart. My question today is can I possibly burn as many calories in one day of shoveling snow as I will consume in three days of being snow-bound, with nothing to do bu cook, eat, a d listen to music or practice. I think the answer is no.
1/24: 211
1/31: 208
2/7: 209
Three steps forward, one step back. Not unexpected, so I'll simply try to do better this week.
That's the way it works. You have to stay mad at it. ;D
I've lost maybe 2 pounds. :( I am on Weight Watchers Online and also joined a short-term Jazzercise weight loss program to try to put some "outside" pressure on myself. If only reading about weight loss were enough to accomplish it!
1/1/10: 225.5
1/8/10: 222
1/15/10: 218
1/22/10: 216.5
1/29/10 217
2/5/10 214.5
2/12/10 212.5 (and loss the need of one of belt notches) :)
Outstanding, Bill!
Quote from: Bogey on February 12, 2010, 01:22:51 PM
1/1/10: 225.5
1/8/10: 222
1/15/10: 218
1/22/10: 216.5
1/29/10 217
2/5/10 214.5
2/12/10 212.5 (and loss the need of one of belt notches) :)
Amazing man! Why didn't you begin sooner? Whats your goal?
Quote from: Bogey on February 12, 2010, 01:22:51 PM
1/1/10: 225.5
1/8/10: 222
1/15/10: 218
1/22/10: 216.5
1/29/10 217
2/5/10 214.5
2/12/10 212.5 (and loss the need of one of belt notches) :)
Stop, stop!!! I recognise the signs! You're on the point of vanishing!
Bill? Bill?
Where'd 'e go?
I've hit some sort of plateau but I'm sure it won't last.
Quote from: Mozart on February 12, 2010, 06:30:42 PM
Amazing man! Why didn't you begin sooner? Whats your goal?
Goal: 175, but does not matter so long as I am losing weight.
Strategy: Here:
http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,13022.540.html
Quote from: Beethovenian on February 13, 2010, 04:48:34 AM
I've hit some sort of plateau but I'm sure it won't last.
That plateau is "toast"!
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_-0f2OLadvVk/SATgLyhmglI/AAAAAAAADwM/NkwxngtWH2s/s320/Red+Leader.jpg)
"This is Red Leader to Dave. Stay on target."
Quote from: Elgarian on February 12, 2010, 11:57:21 PM
Stop, stop!!! I recognise the signs! You're on the point of vanishing!
I must be trapped in some sort of Tholian Web. ;)
1/1/10: 225.5
1/8/10: 222
1/15/10: 218
1/22/10: 216.5
1/29/10: 217
2/5/10: 214.5
2/12/10: 212.5
2/19/10: 211.5
Im at 151 now...I was a little frightened because I dropped 9 pounds in 2 weeks. I was at 160 since summer since August and these two last weeks Ive gone to 151...I wonder if my scale broke? The drop seemed to sudden.
Anyways it is a very comfortable weight for me but going under 145 would be excessive, I'll start looking like a Russian girl.
Quote from: Mozart on February 20, 2010, 07:26:25 PM
Anyways it is a very comfortable weight for me but going under 145 would be excessive, I'll start looking like a Russian girl.
Of course, if you're Russian and female, that's all to the good.
I'm in the process of throwing a dietary tantrum. After three weeks of strict calorie control (vegetables, fruit and fish), with a 45 minute high-sweat session on the exercise bike and a substantial walk every day, I found I had gained 2 pounds.
So to heck with it. I might as well be hanged for a sheep instead of a lamb: in the last few days I've munched my way through steak and ale pie and mashed potatoes, chocolate sundae, hot date and toffee pudding, and thick toasted sandwiches of freshly roasted ham (bulging with ham). Tomorrow I'm going to tear up my comics and make a big mess with my toys.
Quote from: Bogey on February 20, 2010, 05:23:25 AM
1/1/10: 225.5
1/8/10: 222
1/15/10: 218
1/22/10: 216.5
1/29/10: 217
2/5/10: 214.5
2/12/10: 212.5
2/19/10: 211.5
Bill, you're inspiring.
Alan, I feel your pain. ;) I've been eating less and exercising more and in the past four weeks have lost precisely
zero pounds. Say lavee. ;D
Quote from: DavidRoss on February 22, 2010, 05:36:09 AM
Alan, I feel your pain. ;) I've been eating less and exercising more and in the past four weeks have lost precisely zero pounds. Say lavee. ;D
The universe just isn't
fair, is it Dave?
Syrup with your icecream?
[sound of comics ripping]Custard with your jam roly poly pudding?
[sound of favourite toy train being thrown against wall]
Quote from: Beethovenian on February 04, 2010, 08:35:14 AM
250.5 8)
Just popping in to state: 247.
Now popping out again...
245
Thanks, chum. 40 pounds to go. ;D
Quote from: Elgarian on February 22, 2010, 06:01:08 AM
[sound of favourite toy train being thrown against wall]
Classic! :D Stick with it. Whenever I hit these snags, and I do, I just remind myself where I would have been had I not been dieting and exercising.
Quote from: Bogey on February 24, 2010, 06:14:36 PM
Classic! :D Stick with it. Whenever I hit these snags, and I do, I just remind myself where I would have been had I not been dieting and exercising.
Thats' the kind of sensitively applied logic we need in this thread. You're right. Why, I could've been a
balloon by now if I hadn't been working so hard at it ...
(How do I get this toy train fixed, by the way?)
A former athlete who long remained fit, at 40 I was still 6'2"/210# with 8% body fat. Life changes soon made me much more sedentary, which, along with a slowing metabolism but little reduction in caloric intake, had me at 260# by age 45--and probably at least 25% of that was pure fat! My knees hurt all the time, my feet hurt, I couldn't climb two flights of stairs without getting winded, and it was hard work just to bend over and tie my shoes.
Disgusted with what I'd let myself become, I began a serious exercise and diet program. In little more than a year I was down to 195# and running about 25 miles/week. Since then, however, I've been far from consistent with both diet and exercise and my weight has bounced back and forth every year or two between the mid 190s and the high 220s--borderline obese, per BMI stats (though standard BMI charts are misleading for muscular, large-framed folks and for their opposites as well).
Recent health issues have made it not just desirable but mandatory that I lose significant weight and keep it off. I plan to get down to the 180s and stay there. And I know of no magic bullet for achieving that, only consistent healthy eating (mostly fruits & veggies & whole grains, and not too much) and regular daily exercise weighted toward fat-burning (metabolism-raising) aerobic activity. My goal is to lose about two pounds per week, half though diet, half through exercise. And classical music is a significant part of the latter for me, whether listening while stationary cycling, treadmilling, or stair-stepping in our modest home gym, or via iPod while walking (and eventually running again) in the great outdoors.
Beethoven, Bach, Brahms...they might not look as good in stretch pants as Jillian Michaels (of "Biggest Loser" fame), but they can still be inspirational personal trainers nonetheless!
Had a setback due to extreme work stress and psychotropic medication issues, so have gained back 4 of the 38 lbs I lost. I'm trying to get back on track and not beat myself up overmuch, since I've still made good progress by any standard. Tough to do, though, when my meds still aren't working quite right. *sigh* Oh well, I just have to suck it up and stick with my program. Still have another 65 lbs to go. :'(
Quote from: Pére Malfait on February 25, 2010, 08:40:22 AM
Had a setback due to extreme work stress and psychotropic medication issues, so have gained back 4 of the 38 lbs I lost. I'm trying to get back on track and not beat myself up overmuch, since I've still made good progress by any standard. Tough to do, though, when my meds still aren't working quite right. *sigh* Oh well, I just have to suck it up and stick with my program. Still have another 65 lbs to go. :'(
That is great though. 38 steps forward and only 4 back. Not a bad trade off if you ask me.
Quote from: DavidRoss on February 25, 2010, 07:25:28 AM
A former athlete who long remained fit, at 40 I was still 6'2"/210# with 8% body fat. Life changes soon made me much more sedentary, which, along with a slowing metabolism but little reduction in caloric intake, had me at 260# by age 45--and probably at least 25% of that was pure fat! My knees hurt all the time, my feet hurt, I couldn't climb two flights of stairs without getting winded, and it was hard work just to bend over and tie my shoes.
Disgusted with what I'd let myself become, I began a serious exercise and diet program. In little more than a year I was down to 195# and running about 25 miles/week. Since then, however, I've been far from consistent with both diet and exercise and my weight has bounced back and forth every year or two between the mid 190s and the high 220s--borderline obese, per BMI stats (though standard BMI charts are misleading for muscular, large-framed folks and for their opposites as well).
Recent health issues have made it not just desirable but mandatory that I lose significant weight and keep it off. I plan to get down to the 180s and stay there. And I know of no magic bullet for achieving that, only consistent healthy eating (mostly fruits & veggies & whole grains, and not too much) and regular daily exercise weighted toward fat-burning (metabolism-raising) aerobic activity. My goal is to lose about two pounds per week, half though diet, half through exercise. And classical music is a significant part of the latter for me, whether listening while stationary cycling, treadmilling, or stair-stepping in our modest home gym, or via iPod while walking (and eventually running again) in the great outdoors.
Beethoven, Bach, Brahms...they might not look as good in stretch pants as Jillian Michaels (of "Biggest Loser" fame), but they can still be inspirational personal trainers nonetheless!
I
just switched to books on my mp3 David. It seems to be a decent change as the time just flies.
Quote from: DavidRoss on February 25, 2010, 07:25:28 AM
And classical music is a significant part of the latter for me, whether listening while stationary cycling, treadmilling, or stair-stepping in our modest home gym, or via iPod while walking (and eventually running again) in the great outdoors.
Beethoven, Bach, Brahms...they might not look as good in stretch pants as Jillian Michaels (of "Biggest Loser" fame), but they can still be inspirational personal trainers nonetheless!
There are some distinct similarities in our situations, though I was never the athletic type. I've found that varying what I do while pedalling the exercise bike helps. I've worked my way through a lot of Handel operas that way, but at present I'm watching Elvis movies, partly because I'm a sucker for Elvis, but also because they produce a kind of appalled fascination that makes my sweaty physical pedalling discomfort seem of less importance.
1/1/10: 225.5
1/8/10: 222
1/15/10: 218
1/22/10: 216.5
1/29/10: 217
2/5/10: 214.5
2/12/10: 212.5
2/19/10: 211.5
2/26/10 212.5 Rats, up a pound. That progressive dinner last Saturday did me no favors. ;D
Quote from: Bogey on February 25, 2010, 07:32:19 PM
I just switched to books on my mp3 David. It seems to be a decent change as the time just flies.
Books? You must walk a lot farther than I do, Bill!
Quote from: Elgarian on February 26, 2010, 03:34:13 AMat present I'm watching Elvis movies, partly because I'm a sucker for Elvis, but also because they produce a kind of appalled fascination that makes my sweaty physical pedalling discomfort seem of less importance.
Interesting. Do you think that would work for root canals, too? Or that movies featuring Jim Carrey or Will Ferrell would be equally effective? (Now I'm going to have to see what Netflix offers in old Elvis movies!)
Quote from: DavidRoss on February 26, 2010, 04:04:03 AM
Do you think that would work for root canals, too?
You could have them done without anaesthetic if you could arrange to watch an Elvis movie at the same time. But do please take care. Patients who have watched
Live a Little, Love a Little,
Harem Holiday,
Frankie and Johnnie, and
Fun in Acapulco have been known to undergo irreversible brain damage. Dental health has its risks.
Had a good week this week - down 4.5 lbs, so I lost the weight I had gained back, plus an extra .5 lb, so I'm back on track. Another 60ish lbs to go.
1/1/10: 225.5
1/8/10: 222
1/15/10: 218
1/22/10: 216.5
1/29/10: 217
2/5/10: 214.5
2/12/10: 212.5
2/19/10: 211.5
2/26/10 212.5
3/4/10 212 Would seem hat I am a bit stuck. Time to kick it into another gear. $:)
Quote from: Bogey on March 05, 2010, 05:21:15 PM
1/1/10: 225.5
1/8/10: 222
1/15/10: 218
1/22/10: 216.5
1/29/10: 217
2/5/10: 214.5
2/12/10: 212.5
2/19/10: 211.5
2/26/10 212.5
3/4/10 212 Would seem hat I am a bit stuck. Time to kick it into another gear. $:)
I hear the gears changing already. You're an inspiration to me. Now that most of the snow has melted here, I need to get back to the running routine. I don't even want to know what the scale says now. . . :-[
Quote from: secondwind on March 05, 2010, 06:51:54 PM
I hear the gears changing already. You're an inspiration to me. Now that most of the snow has melted here, I need to get back to the running routine. I don't even want to know what the scale says now. . . :-[
Thanks. I need to do better with eating on the weekends. Also, as you may have read on the movie thread, my wife and I catch all the Best Picture nominees, and we always get a big ol' bucket of their popcorn. Thank goodness we are done for a while. I would hit it hard for a couple weeks before you bring out the scales.
Nice!
1/1/10: 225.5
1/8/10: 222
1/15/10: 218
1/22/10: 216.5
1/29/10: 217
2/5/10: 214.5
2/12/10: 212.5
2/19/10: 211.5
2/26/10 212.5
3/4/10 212
3/11 213.5 Yikes! Man, I gotta train harder!
1/1/10: 225.5
1/8/10: 222
1/15/10: 218
1/22/10: 216.5
1/29/10: 217
2/5/10: 214.5
2/12/10: 212.5
2/19/10: 211.5
2/26/10 212.5
3/4/10 212
3/11 213.5
3/19 212.5
Basically have not lost a pound in more than a month. However, my eating improved this week so I am hopeful for some sort of breakthrough.
Keep the faith, Bill!
I have hit a long plateau where I'm not losing weight yet I'm still doing the same things, not slacking off at all.
So now, instead of trying to burn 400 calories a day, 5 days a week, I am switching to doing 10,000 steps *every* day, keeping the same number of calories consumed. We'll see how this goes.
Burn 'em out, Dave!
Thanks.
I must mention that my pants are looser. ;D
Well done!
I seem to have found a foolproof system at last:
1. Arrange to have an obstructed bowel (not seriously - make sure it's the sort they can fix easily).
2. Be admitted for emergency surgery.
3. Don't eat for 7 days (don't worry, you won't want to).
4. Weigh yourself and discover you lost eight pounds.
Easy really.
Quote from: Elgarian on March 23, 2010, 01:34:04 PM
I seem to have found a foolproof system at last:
1. Arrange to have an obstructed bowel (not seriously - make sure it's the sort they can fix easily).
2. Be admitted for emergency surgery.
3. Don't eat for 7 days (don't worry, you won't want to).
4. Weigh yourself and discover you lost eight pounds.
Easy really.
Yeah, I was on that diet when I had my appendix out a few years back. Works wonders.
Quote from: Elgarian on March 23, 2010, 01:34:04 PM
I seem to have found a foolproof system at last:
1. Arrange to have an obstructed bowel (not seriously - make sure it's the sort they can fix easily).
2. Be admitted for emergency surgery.
3. Don't eat for 7 days (don't worry, you won't want to).
4. Weigh yourself and discover you lost eight pounds.
Easy really.
Doesn't sound so easy to me! I thought you'd been unusually quiet of late. . .
I have never read this thread before since for the longest time I thought Fat Enders was one of those Norwegian/Danish/Swedish composers I've never heard of.
:)
Carry on ...
Quote from: MN Dave on March 23, 2010, 03:31:27 PM
Yeah, I was on that diet when I had my appendix out a few years back. Works wonders.
Trouble is though, Dave, that I suspect it doesn't
last! Am I right or am I right?
Oh, the appendix stays out, I am sure.
Quote from: Franco on March 24, 2010, 05:53:16 AM
I have never read this thread before since for the longest time I thought Fat Enders was one of those Norwegian/Danish/Swedish composers I've never heard of.
:)
Carry on ...
You were closer than you think. Fat Enders is a Norwegian cult jazz saxophonist, whose best-known works include 'Calorie Count Combo', 'Pound-shedder Blues', and 'I Wanna Be Your Skinny Lover'.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 24, 2010, 08:52:20 AM
Oh, the appendix stays out, I am sure.
You, Sir, are one humorous fellow! I salute you (and your appendix, if you still have it.)
Quote from: secondwind on March 23, 2010, 04:28:54 PM
I thought you'd been unusually quiet of late. . .
There were times when I definitely wasn't. In fact I'm surprised you didn't hear me....
Quote from: Elgarian on March 24, 2010, 08:47:56 AM
Trouble is though, Dave, that I suspect it doesn't last! Am I right or am I right?
Two choices, is it? Wonderful. You are right. Of course.
Quote from: MN Dave on March 24, 2010, 09:17:06 AM
Two choices, is it? Wonderful. You are right. Of course.
I thought as much.
Quote from: Elgarian on March 24, 2010, 08:53:42 AM
You were closer than you think. Fat Enders is a Norwegian cult jazz saxophonist, whose best-known works include 'Calorie Count Combo', 'Pound-shedder Blues', and 'I Wanna Be Your Skinny Lover'.
Wow. lol :D
Quote from: Elgarian on March 24, 2010, 08:56:03 AM
There were times when I definitely wasn't. In fact I'm surprised you didn't hear me....
I guess I've been distracted and making too much noise myself to have noticed your cries of distress, what with braying on my basset horn and honking and skwonking on my bass clarinet. . . it's hard to hear anything at all over all that racket! :-[ How are you now?
Quote from: secondwind on March 24, 2010, 06:56:08 PM
I guess I've been distracted and making too much noise myself to have noticed your cries of distress, what with braying on my basset horn and honking and skwonking on my bass clarinet. . . it's hard to hear anything at all over all that racket! :-[ How are you now?
I am living proof of the fact that you don't need a basset horn or a bass clarinet to do some effective braying, honking and skwonking.
I'm OK thanks, Nancy. Walked a mile yesterday and felt a great sense of freedom! It'll be a few weeks before I climb back on the exercise bike tho'.
Quote from: Elgarian on March 25, 2010, 03:42:43 AM
I am living proof of the fact that you don't need a basset horn or a bass clarinet to do some effective braying, honking and skwonking.
I'm OK thanks, Nancy. Walked a mile yesterday and felt a great sense of freedom! It'll be a few weeks before I climb back on the exercise bike tho'.
Well Alan, I'm glad to hear that you are out hiking again. I hope you won't be offended that I intend to stay with the slow road to weight loss--your sure-fire method of losing a pound a day sounds far too painful for me! :o
Quote from: secondwind on March 25, 2010, 12:00:42 PM
I hope you won't be offended that I intend to stay with the slow road to weight loss--your sure-fire method of losing a pound a day sounds far too painful for me! :o
Chicken!!
Two miles today! I needed scraping off the floor by the end, but I did it, by golly.
239 today. Slow going...
Keep 'er trending down!
Good work, ... Soapy.
Quote from: Soapy Molloy on March 26, 2010, 10:41:49 AM
:) Today I touched my first milestone: a reading below 217 (15½ stone)
(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9382/71053912.jpg)
blue line tracks the daily readings
red is the best-fit linear trend
green tracks the 7-day moving average
Next target is 214: the point at which my BMI would dip below 30 and I would be merely overweight instead of obese grrrr >:D
A man after my own heart. Plotting graphs gives us something to do with all our fat-ender anxiety.
Quote from: Soapy Molloy on March 26, 2010, 10:41:49 AM
:) Today I touched my first milestone: a reading below 217 (15½ stone)
(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9382/71053912.jpg)
blue line tracks the daily readings
red is the best-fit linear trend
green tracks the 7-day moving average
Next target is 214: the point at which my BMI would dip below 30 and I would be merely overweight instead of obese grrrr >:D
I like it, Soapy! Think I'll do the same (though won't likely publish it!).
1/1/10: 225.5
1/8/10: 222
1/15/10: 218
1/22/10: 216.5
1/29/10: 217
2/5/10: 214.5
2/12/10: 212.5
2/19/10: 211.5
2/26/10 212.5
3/4/10 212
3/11 213.5
3/19 212.5
3/26 216
This is what I get for getting cute with what I eat and hoping all would just turn out on Friday.
Quote from: Bogey on March 29, 2010, 05:33:37 AM3/19 212.5
3/26 216
This is what I get for getting cute with what I eat and hoping all would just turn out on Friday.
Ack! Bill, FWIW, I got lazy the past couple of weeks, not tracking food because I was exercising, and it turns out that I've gained 4 pounds. Wish it came off as easily as it goes on!
My iPhone's LOSE IT! app has a little graph so all I have to do is punch in my weight each day.
Quote from: DavidRoss on March 29, 2010, 05:48:38 AM
Ack! Bill, FWIW, I got lazy the past couple of weeks, not tracking food because I was exercising, and it turns out that I've gained 4 pounds. Wish it came off as easily as it goes on!
Yup. It seems that I either need to eat like a rabbit or add a course of running to my bike riding.
Quote from: MN Dave on March 29, 2010, 05:53:44 AM
My iPhone's LOSE IT! app has a little graph so all I have to do is punch in my weight each day.
Shoulda knowed there was an app for that . . . .
Had some blood drawn this morning, in advance of a routine check-up this Monday. Wonder what the scale will read? . . .
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 31, 2010, 05:25:44 AM
Had some blood drawn this morning, in advance of a routine check-up this Monday. Wonder what the scale will read? . . .
150?
No, I think that rather unlikely!
How tall are yoU?
6 foot in stockinged feet.
Then I will say 190. :)
I can accept that as a goal!
Had my blood drawn as well, Karl. Everything came back normal save the cholesterol (it runs VERY high in my family). So I will get the full scoop on Monday when I meet with the doc.
Walking 11 miles today. Feel like that should be good for something... ;D
Quote from: Brian on April 03, 2010, 05:46:05 AM
Walking 11 miles today. Feel like that should be good for something... ;D
Car broke down? ;D
Quote from: DavidW on April 03, 2010, 07:27:35 AM
Car broke down? ;D
Decided it would be a fun outing to walk to Houston's Galleria mall and back. 5.5 miles each way, stopped for burgers on the way back. It was a load of fun!
...but the burgers were so big I may not have gotten any health gain out of it. 8)
Quote from: Brian on April 03, 2010, 05:46:05 AM
Walking 11 miles today. Feel like that should be good for something... ;D
I read your tweets, dude! : )
]1/1/10: 225.5
1/8/10: 222
1/15/10: 218
1/22/10: 216.5
1/29/10: 217
2/5/10: 214.5
2/12/10: 212.5
2/19/10: 211.5
2/26/10 212.5
3/4/10 212
3/11 213.5
3/19 212.5
3/26 216
4/2 215
4/9 215
4/15 215
I'm getting myself motivated to try this again. I gained back what little weight I lost in January/February, and added a couple of pounds. I would love to lose weight, I'm just not keen on the whole diet and exercise stuff (and drugs or surgery are out of the question). The biggest obstacle I face is poor planning. If I don't have enough of the right foods available during the week, it's too easy for me to make bad food choices because I'm hungry and they are convenient. My goal is to start tomorrow, so I'm going get prepared today.
Well, here it is: 212. Starting anew, again. 8)
\m/
;D
Thanks.
Yeah, plateaus happen every three pounds or so for me at this point. Just gotta keep on truckin'.
I'm finally losing again after a month or more of slight gains and plateauing. Down 3.5 today for a total loss of 45 lbs. 5 more lbs and I'll be to the 1/2 way mark.
People falling off plateaus left, right, and center! Somebody should put up some guard rails! (But congratulations.)
I don't weigh myself very often...
January 2007: 162
August 2007: 165
May 2008: 177
August 2008: 180
January 2009: 182
May 2009: 165
August 2009: 167
January 2010: 183
As you can see, the college lifestyle has its ups and downs! I sustained a near-freshman-fifteen, lost it, then resustained it as a third-year. Now it's my last undergrad semester and I'm trying to get rid of that gain. My ideal weight is about 150-160, which I have only attained once since beginning high school (actually weighed 177 at age 14). Right now, I feel like I'm doing some, but not enough. I walk around campus constantly, and have scheduled walking times every MWF, but really it's all down to limiting food consumption to smart foods and sizes. Going to guesstimate I am hovering in the upper 170s, sadly. :(
Quote from: Keemun on April 11, 2010, 05:42:47 PM
Well, here it is: 212. Starting anew, again. 8)
4/15/10: 210 (or maybe 210.5, because I don't have one of those fancy decimal scales and mine had a bit of trouble deciding if it was 210 or 211 before settling on 210). :D
Week 1 down, the official stats:
4/11: 212
4/18: 210
Quote from: MN Dave on April 18, 2010, 07:49:40 AM
232
Went up for a couple days. Now back down to this.
Over the past four years or so: 80kg (176 lb)
Over the past 6 months, however: 76kg.
I am 177cm (5' 9 1/2)
Quote from: springrite on April 21, 2010, 09:28:39 AM
Over the past four years or so: 80kg (176 lb)
Over the past 6 months, however: 76kg.
I am 177cm (5' 9 1/2)
That's pretty good. I should know, being
exactly your height.
Huzzah! The benefits of all that Liszt and clean living!
Here's a thing I've never known before; it's called easy clean livin'.
Indeed. 8)
;D
Just went to a burger shack and discovered the glory that is the "butterscotch milk shake." Oops! It is really, really humid outside; otherwise I would be atoning for my sins already.
Quote from: Brian on April 23, 2010, 10:20:01 AM
Just went to a burger shack and discovered the glory that is the "butterscotch milk shake."
The sound of it alone is Evil ; )
Quote from: Brian on April 23, 2010, 10:20:01 AM
Just went to a burger shack and discovered the glory that is the "butterscotch milk shake." Oops! It is really, really humid outside; otherwise I would be atoning for my sins already.
Can you deep fry that?
]1/1/10: 225.5
1/8/10: 222
1/15/10: 218
1/22/10: 216.5
1/29/10: 217
2/5/10: 214.5
2/12/10: 212.5
2/19/10: 211.5
2/26/10 212.5
3/4/10 212
3/11 213.5
3/19 212.5
3/26 216
4/2 215
4/9 215
4/15 215
Had a salad of geens and balsamic every day for lunch. Went to drinking Pierre instead of soda and am watching weekends better:
4/22 213.5
Had a pleasant surprise when I stepped on the scale this morning - down to 205, for a total loss of 60 lbs. 40 more to go . . .
Quote from: Pére Malfait on May 19, 2010, 04:31:16 AM
Had a pleasant surprise when I stepped on the scale this morning - down to 205, for a total loss of 60 lbs. 40 more to go . . .
Great!
19 to go for me...
Well done, gents!
(Lee, did you get a PM from me?)
January 2009: 182
May 2009: 165
August 2009: 167
January 2010: 183
May 2009: 173
I feel caught in a cycle.
Well, an annual cycle like that doesn't strike me as off the wall. For myself, I find that winter tends to be a time when various factors mitigate against weight-reduction; but spring always motivates lightening activities and best practices.
@Karl - about your new organ work? Yessir, sure did. Sounds interesting, but I'm fiscally challenged at the moment, so no music purchases for me for a while. :(
Ho capito. May you slay the challenges!
It has been a while since I reported my progress, so here it is:
4/11: 212
4/18: 210
4/25: (none recorded)
5/2: 211
5/9: 208
5/16: 207
Only five pounds lost in five weeks. I know, the general recommendation is to lose 1-2 pounds per week. But I prefer to be at the upper end of that range.
Great work everyone else who has been losing weight!
Quote from: MN Dave on May 27, 2010, 05:32:04 AM
222
17 to go...
Hm, 222 sounds pretty good.
The 6'5" David I know is at 320, and his goal is 270...
Quote from: Greg on May 27, 2010, 05:39:04 AM
Hm, 222 sounds pretty good.
The 6'5" David I know is at 320, and his goal is 270...
Per the BMI calculator, I have to be under 210 to be at a healthy weight. I'm aiming for 205. If I go below 156, I'm underweight.
Quote from: MN Dave on May 27, 2010, 05:50:35 AM
Per the BMI calculator, I have to be under 210 to be at a healthy weight. I'm aiming for 205. If I go below 156, I'm underweight.
:o
I think at your height, if you went under 156, you'd be dead!
Quote from: Greg on May 27, 2010, 06:26:55 AM
:o
I think at your height, if you went under 156, you'd be dead!
Then I'd better not. ;D
4/11: 212
4/18: 210
4/25: (none recorded)
5/2: 211
5/9: 208
5/16: 207
5/23: 208
5/30: 207
Up and down I go.
Quote from: Keemun on June 02, 2010, 02:10:35 PM
4/11: 212
4/18: 210
4/25: (none recorded)
5/2: 211
5/9: 208
5/16: 207
5/23: 208
5/30: 207
Up and down I go.
Keep at it, my friend.
Quote from: MN Dave on June 02, 2010, 04:01:07 PM
Keep at it, my friend.
Thanks, I am. :) I just wish I had more progress. :P
Lay off the donuts. ;)
Today's weight: 220
15 to go (to the first goal; might go lower)
Quote from: Dr. Dread on June 12, 2009, 10:16:17 AM
This morning I was at 272. :o Which is outrageous (even if I am tall).
I want to get down to 220. ;D
Wouldn't that be your second goal, technically? You just accomplished your first goal.
Quote from: Greg on June 04, 2010, 06:21:18 AM
Wouldn't that be your second goal, technically? You just accomplished your first goal.
Hey. What do you know about that? I'd totally forgotten about my first goal.
Yay me. :)
Quote from: MN Dave on June 04, 2010, 06:22:45 AM
Hey. What do you know about that? I'd totally forgotten about my first goal.
Yay me. :)
Awesome job, Dave!
Quote from: MN Dave on June 04, 2010, 06:18:45 AM
Lay off the donuts. ;)
I had a couple last Monday and I still lost a pound for the week. :P
Quote from: Keemun on June 02, 2010, 02:10:35 PM
4/11: 212
4/18: 210
4/25: (none recorded)
5/2: 211
5/9: 208
5/16: 207
5/23: 208
5/30: 207
6/7: 206 :)
Quote from: MN Dave on June 04, 2010, 06:22:45 AM
Hey. What do you know about that? I'd totally forgotten about my first goal.
Yay me. :)
Outstanding, Dave! I'm having some oatmeal in your honor.
Quote from: Keemun on June 07, 2010, 05:41:07 AM
I had a couple last Monday and I still lost a pound for the week. :P
6/7: 206 :)
Well done!
06-08-10: 190 :o. I'm 5'9 so under the BMI chart I'm listed as "overweight." I would have to lose 25 pounds to be listed as "healthy." I'm 24 years old.
I've began dieting and two exercise routines:
http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_3/181.shtml
And this:
Quote
Workout A
3x5 Squat
3x5 Bench Press
1x5 Deadlift
2x5-8 dips (only add weight if you are doing >10 bodyweight dips)
Workout B
3x5 Squat
3x5 Standing military press
3x5 Pendlay Rows (or power cleans for 5x3, 5 sets of 3 reps apiece)
2x5-8 chinups ***if you do the power cleans, do 3 sets of chinups
Week 1
Monday: A
Wednesday:B
Friday: A
Week 2
Monday: B
Wednesday: A
Friday:B
Etc. Keep rotating
So on the day I'm resting from weight lifting I jog and the day the day I'm resting from jogging I lift. Sundays I rest.
Last week I started doing the weightlifting and only today did I add the jogging/walking. I want to be in shape by the end of summer!
I think the hardest part for me might be the dieting, so starting today I bought apples, peaches and carrots to help me cope with my smaller portions!
I've reached another plateau. Ho hum. ::)
5'8" here. Goal: 160 or below. Last time I weighed 160 was about 7 years ago.
January: 183 (new personal record, started cutting back)
May: 173
First week of June: 169
Holding steady at 76kg (167lbs), height 5'10"
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 07, 2010, 05:56:41 AM
Well done!
Thanks, Karl. :)
6/13: 206
Well, at least I didn't gain weight last week. 8)
I have reduced my goal weight to 195. ;D
Quote from: MN Dave on June 22, 2010, 11:07:01 AM
I have reduced my goal weight to 195. ;D
Good for you! Congrats!
Now you weigh not much more than me plus Kimi. (Of course, our total will be on the rise ...)
Quote from: springrite on June 22, 2010, 11:10:29 AM
Good for you! Congrats!
Now you weigh not much more than me plus Kimi. (Of course, our total will be on the rise ...)
Thanks, sir.
I will probably bobble between 190 and 195 after I reach my goal.
Quote from: MN Dave on June 22, 2010, 11:21:17 AM
Thanks, sir.
I will probably bobble between 190 and 195 after I reach my goal.
I think you'd bobble between 185 and 190. :D
Quote from: MN Dave on June 22, 2010, 11:52:16 AM
?
I have more faith in you, my friend! (5 lbs worth more)
Quote from: springrite on June 22, 2010, 11:54:22 AM
I have more faith in you, my friend! (5 lbs worth more)
Oh my. I've already reduced it today from 205. :)
Quote from: springrite on June 22, 2010, 11:24:58 AM
I think you'd bobble between 185 and 190. :D
Okay, I will do this. :)
Dave, you da man!
Saw my doctor yesterday, and she wants my weight in the 190s. I weighed in at 250 yesterday, so there is some long-term weight loss in my future.
You've come to the right thread. 0:)
Unemployment in some countries is a great fat ender.
I'm taking another hour's walk when I get home from the Museum.
Cool. I just got back from one myself.
I can get into this walk as a steady thing; I'm finding that it actually regulates my appetite somewhat. During the week, I'll probably need to do the walking directly on getting back from the office.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 27, 2010, 05:43:18 PM
I can get into this walk as a steady thing; I'm finding that it actually regulates my appetite somewhat. During the week, I'll probably need to do the walking directly on getting back from the office.
That's what I do, Tuesday through Thursday. I take Mondays and Fridays off and work out a little longer on the weekends.
My off-days will be more an impromptu matter (there are passing thundershowers forecast for today, so this evening may wind up a miss).
My doc didn't absolutely say I should shed 50#, but that was an estimate. She wants me at a size 36 waist, and I am 38-40-ish. I don't think I shall see 36 this year, but I am game to trend thither.
Dave, do mind taking a bit of time and giving us a thumbnail of your week for workouts and diet?
Quote from: Bogey on June 28, 2010, 02:02:16 PM
Dave, do mind taking a bit of time and giving us a thumbnail of your week for workouts and diet?
No change in what I eat, just how much. I eat the amount of calories indicated by the LoseIt! app on my iPhone. Right now it's 1,864. I'm supposed to subtract calories for working out, but I don't.
Five days a week (Su, Tu, We, Th, Sa), I take a walk or jog. A little under an hour on weekdays (walking) and a bit longer on weekends. You should try to walk 10,000 steps a day, but I rarely do that much on Mondays and Fridays, which are my "days off." Though I do try to get in as many steps as possible in the course of a non-workout day.
Quote from: MN Dave on June 28, 2010, 02:27:47 PM
No change in what I eat, just how much. I eat the amount of calories indicated by the LoseIt! app on my iPhone. Right now it's 1,864. I'm supposed to subtract calories for working out, but I don't.
Five days a week (Su, Tu, We, Th, Sa), I take a walk or jog. A little under an hour on weekdays (walking) and a bit longer on weekends. You should try to walk 10,000 steps a day, but I rarely do that much on Mondays and Fridays, which are my "days off." Though I do try to get in as many steps as possible in the course of a non-workout day.
So, today so far:
Two cups of coffee with a bit of half and half 70
half cup of raw almonds 340
three strawberries 40 or so
Gatorade 50
Naked Protein Drink 440
940 calories today so far. Wow, they add up quickly.
On the last hole in my belt. Will need a new one soon.
Quote from: Keemun on June 21, 2010, 09:54:18 AM
6/20: 204
A little late in reporting, but here it is:
6/27: 204
I was at 202 this morning, but I only consider my weekly weighings for tracking purposes. I am excited at how close I am to being under 200 ("onederland").
Quote from: MN Dave on June 30, 2010, 07:06:27 AM
On the last hole in my belt. Will need a new one soon.
Nice! I think I bought my belt a long time ago because I still have four holes to go.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 28, 2010, 03:50:56 AM I don't think I shall see 36 this year, but I am game to trend thither.
If you want to do it, I say go for it!
Bumped up to 215. >:(
It's a plateau, I tellz ya! :o
213.5 Slowly, but surely...
I will make it to 197, my new new goal.
Outstanding, Dave! Responding most satisfactorily to the Devo treatment.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 08, 2010, 05:07:23 AM
Outstanding, Dave! Responding most satisfactorily to the Devo treatment.
We're all DEVO! 8)
Quote from: MN Dave on July 08, 2010, 05:06:13 AM
213.5 Slowly, but surely...
I will make it to 197, my new new goal.
At this rate you'll soon need a new thread called Thin Enders.
Exactly.
MN Dave will look like this in a few months:
(http://nazret.com/blog/media/blogs/new/g28587_u28526_39452538_manute270.jpg)
I see nothing or is that the point? ;D
Do you mean the image doesn't show for you or does Manute Bol not strike you as awkward?
Quote from: Greg on July 08, 2010, 02:45:51 PM
Do you mean the image doesn't show for you or does Manute Bol not strike you as awkward?
no image
Weird...
try the link: http://nazret.com/blog/media/blogs/new/g28587_u28526_39452538_manute270.jpg
Gah! That links to nothing! :P
The Link to Nothing. That's deep.
Quote from: MN Dave on July 08, 2010, 05:06:13 AM
213.5 Slowly, but surely...
I will make it to 197, my new new goal.
213 ;D
16 to go...
You are The Man!
:)
Okaaaaaayyyy.... now both of them don't work for me, either.
How about this one?
(http://beyondthebeat.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/mb2.jpg)
Yes, I look just like that now.
Well, if you reach your goal weight (and grow and extra 1'2"), you will look just like that. ;)
Arrgghh... I just found out he died the 19th of last month.
212
(http://www.culch.ie/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/yay.jpg)
211.5 ;D
211 ::)
Ever lighter doth the Tortoise Soar!
209.5
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m297/Tsukiki-san/Huzzah_cat.jpg)
Quote from: MN Dave on July 29, 2010, 03:47:52 AM
209.5
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m297/Tsukiki-san/Huzzah_cat.jpg)
Wow. Congratulations. You must have been doing a lot that's right!
Quote from: DavidRoss on July 29, 2010, 03:58:05 AM
Wow. Congratulations. You must have been doing a lot that's right!
Thank you, sir.
Just the fewer calories/more moving around type of deal. :)
Quote from: MN Dave on July 29, 2010, 04:00:04 AM
Thank you, sir.
Just the fewer calories/more moving around type of deal. :)
What? No magic beans? No electric cumberbund? !!! Seriously, great job...you're inspiring. Now keep it off! (Imagine Sarge barking out orders.)
Quote from: DavidRoss on July 29, 2010, 04:16:18 AM
Now keep it off! (Imagine Sarge barking out orders.)
You betcha. Just a little over ten pounds to go!
Well done, Dave!
Thanks, Karl!
Here is a progress report covering the past few weeks (since my last post).
7/4: 201
7/9: 201
7/18: 200
7/25: 199
8/1: 198
That's a total of 14 pounds since April, and half-way to my intermediate goal of 184 (giving me a BMI that is not considered "obese"). :) I want to weigh less than 184, but haven't decided on a final goal yet.
Quote from: Keemun on August 02, 2010, 06:14:11 AM
Here is a progress report covering the past few weeks (since my last post).
7/4: 201
7/9: 201
7/18: 200
7/25: 199
8/1: 198
That's a total of 14 pounds since April, and half-way to my intermediate goal of 184 (giving me a BMI that is not considered "obese"). :) I want to weigh less than 184, but haven't decided on a final goal yet.
Keep on truckin', dude.
I'm at 209. Body is resisting but cannot hold out for long against my will!
10 day vacation without workouts and a lot of great southern cooking down in Georgia equaled a 10 pound gain. I am now back to where I started months ago....225.5. :-\
Sucks, dude. Can't let your guard down for a minute.
I'm still at 209. But my pants are looser! ;D
Quote from: Bogey on August 04, 2010, 08:39:29 AM
10 day vacation without workouts and a lot of great southern cooking down in Georgia equaled a 10 pound gain. I am now back to where I started months ago....225.5. :-\
The content of your post notwithstanding, what a delight to 'see' you, Bill!
Quote from: MN Dave on August 04, 2010, 08:41:39 AM
I'm still at 209. But my pants are looser! ;D
Does this mean your shirts are tighter? ;)
Quote from: Keemun on August 04, 2010, 09:57:30 AM
Does this mean your shirts are tighter? ;)
Now I'm trying to work on my upper body a little: push-ups and such. That may be why I'm slow in loosing now.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 04, 2010, 09:48:18 AM
The content of your post notwithstanding, what a delight to 'see' you, Bill!
A bit of travel and plus we enjoy having company in the summer as we both have it off.
217.
207.5 ;D
Write more, weigh less!
217
Re-hydrate! Well done!
Quote from: Bogey on August 04, 2010, 08:39:29 AM
10 day vacation without workouts and a lot of great southern cooking down in Georgia equaled a 10 pound gain. I am now back to where I started months ago....225.5. :-\
Ain't it a bitch, Bill! I don't understand how it works, but it seems as if one long getaway weekend of mild indulgence undoes what it took weeks to accomplish!
I'm in awe of
Dr Dread Dr Obvious MN Dave whoever the hell he is this week! (http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Respect/bowing-036.gif)
Quote from: DavidRoss on August 12, 2010, 05:46:22 AM
Ain't it a bitch, Bill! I don't understand how it works, but it seems as if one long getaway weekend of mild indulgence undoes what it took weeks to accomplish!
I'm in awe of Dr Dread Dr Obvious MN Dave whoever the hell he is this week! (http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Respect/bowing-036.gif)
Oh, c'mon. I change my avatar more often than I change my name. ;D
And you forgot "Apollo". :-[
Anyway, here's the breakdown:
Start weight 270
Current weight 207
Original goal 205
New goal 197
Your effort and achievement remain an inspiration at this end, Dave.
Today:
216
Quote from: Bogey on August 12, 2010, 08:16:57 AM
Your effort and achievement remain an inspiration at this end, Dave.
Today:
216
That's good news! Thanks.
Quote from: MN Dave on August 12, 2010, 09:57:56 AM
That's good news! Thanks.
Yup. Bagged it, but continued to follow your posts here, so got back to it. Every time I shed 5, I can buy a cd. I am half a pound from cd #2. Good on the finances, the space I have to store music, and most importantly, my health. When I hit 200, and I WILL this time, I will make it every 3 lbs for a new disc.
You can do it, Bill.
Quote from: MN Dave on August 12, 2010, 07:55:29 AM
Start weight 270
Current weight 207 206
Original goal 205
New goal 197
;D
Success to you, Bill!
Quote from: Bogey on August 12, 2010, 07:34:59 PM
Yup. Bagged it, but continued to follow your posts here, so got back to it. Every time I shed 5, I can buy a cd. I am half a pound from cd #2. Good on the finances, the space I have to store music, and most importantly, my health. When I hit 200, and I WILL this time, I will make it every 3 lbs for a new disc.
Hmmm...interesting idea, Bill. When I quit smoking (nearly 22 years ago--how time flies!) I rewarded myself with a pint of Hagen Daz each day without a cancer stick. That lasted a few months...and may have created the bad habit now responsible for my greatest voluntary health risk!
Not sure if a CD for every 5 pounds will suffice, however. But a box set per 5...? ;D
I've now more than atoned for the blatant pig-out sins I committed during my second-to-last semester of college. I've still got a ways to go, but the goal (~150) seems to be in sight now.
January 2009: 182
May 2009: 165
August 2009: 167
January 2010: 183
May 2010: 173
August 2010: 166
My plan since January has been to effect permanent weight loss by going slowly. The pace I've set for myself is to drop one pound every two weeks. So right now I'm a bit ahead of my target (168), and am compensating for this by raising the target. By the time I move to London 32 days from now, my goal is 164; my goal for January 2011 is 158, and my ultimate goal is to be at 150 next summer and stay there for the rest of the year. I'm halfway there.
Quote from: DavidRoss on August 13, 2010, 05:46:06 AM
Not sure if a CD for every 5 pounds will suffice, however. But a box set per 5...? ;D
I will inform Linda that this method has shown to be more effective than the single disc and 5 out 5 GMG'rs recommend it. ;D
Quote from: Bogey on August 13, 2010, 02:07:18 PM
I will inform Linda that this method has shown to be more effective than the single disc and 5 out 5 GMG'rs recommend it. ;D
Good luck with that one! You could try telling her that women get a RomCom DVD for every two pounds lost.... ;)
Quote from: DavidRoss on August 13, 2010, 03:19:31 PM
Good luck with that one! You could try telling her that women get a RomCom DVD for every two pounds lost.... ;)
Hmmm. She has not decided her "carrot" yet on this fat enders adventure we decided to take together.
Still 216.
I just had a fresh, still-hot donut (http://www.gourdoughs.com/) with cream cheese frosting and warm cinnamon syrup on top, topped off with slices of grilled bananas. Not weighing in tomorrow.
214....time to buy cd #2! ;D
Dinner tonight: Half of one breast of organic free range chicken, grilled with garlic and herbs; large green salad with fresh tomatoes and cucumbers from our garden, red onion, kalamata olives, and feta cheese.
Even so I'm still no closer to that box set! :'(
Quote from: DavidRoss on August 17, 2010, 05:13:45 PM
Dinner tonight: Half of one breast of organic free range chicken, grilled with garlic and herbs; large green salad with fresh tomatoes and cucumbers from our garden, red onion, kalamata olives, and feta cheese.
Even so I'm still no closer to that box set! :'(
Disagree. Keep eating like that and you will have Harry scratching his head in no time. :)
Maintaining 206. :)
205.5
. . . again in Soaring Tortoise-ville
Quote from: DavidRoss on August 18, 2010, 04:22:42 AM
Uh-oh...now you're wasting away.
People keep telling me that. :) 8.5 pounds to go...
Quote from: Bogey on August 17, 2010, 04:38:29 PM
214....time to buy cd #2! ;D
Quote from: MN Dave on August 18, 2010, 04:10:23 AM
205.5
Way to go, guys! :)
I lost another pound last week so I'm at 197 right now. 15 down, 13 to go to reach my first goal.
We are ending the fat! ;D
213
Nice!
Molto bene!
Attaboy!
Quote from: MN Dave on August 22, 2010, 05:13:55 AM
204
Won't be long now...
No, but you will be more so! ;) Way to go FE Brother!
196. :D
Thanks, guys. Way to go, Mr. Tea. ;)
Huzzah, again!
Good on you, laddie!
Well done.
I've hit another plateau. :P
Quote from: MN Dave on August 30, 2010, 01:15:56 PM
Well done.
I've hit another plateau. :P
Thanks. Sorry to hear about your plateau. I hope it soon gives way to more weight loss. :)
Oh, it HAS to eventually. ;D
: )
Keep 'er trending down, O Soaring Tortoise!
Earlier this year I had major surgery. I followed a healthy regimen of diet and exercise during the first couple of months of recovery, but then got lazy and put on weight again. Too much ice cream, too many snacks, and not enough exercise. Before long I had crept up to 235--the most I've weighed in quite some time.
So I've begun eating more meat, fruit, and vegetables and less grain and dairy and I'm getting at least half an hour of moderate exercise at least six days a week. I'm not crash dieting and I'm not embarking on an over-ambitious exercise program. I'm striving for moderate but steady weight loss along with increased fitness. Yesterday's weight registered as 229.4 pounds. Progress.
Since it's worked so well for MNDave, I'll follow his lead and post updates here from time to time, holding myself accountable to y'all. I'd like to get to 190 and stay there.
Now it's time to head for the gym!
Success to you! We're with you!
Quote from: Keemun on August 30, 2010, 12:53:48 PM
195. Another week, another pound.
194.
Quote from: MN Dave on September 08, 2010, 04:22:07 AM
201.5
See - I told you the plateau cracked. ;)
Quote from: DavidRoss on September 09, 2010, 09:57:37 AM
Yesterday's weight registered as 229.4 pounds. Progress.
Excellent progress. :)
Good luck, DR.
Thank you, gentlemen. ;D
Quote from: DavidRoss on September 09, 2010, 09:57:37 AM
Earlier this year I had major surgery. I followed a healthy regimen of diet and exercise during the first couple of months of recovery, but then got lazy and put on weight again. Too much ice cream, too many snacks, and not enough exercise. Before long I had crept up to 235--the most I've weighed in quite some time.
So I've begun eating more meat, fruit, and vegetables and less grain and dairy and I'm getting at least half an hour of moderate exercise at least six days a week. I'm not crash dieting and I'm not embarking on an over-ambitious exercise program. I'm striving for moderate but steady weight loss along with increased fitness. Yesterday's weight registered as 229.4 pounds. Progress.
Since it's worked so well for MNDave, I'll follow his lead and post updates here from time to time, holding myself accountable to y'all. I'd like to get to 190 and stay there.
Now it's time to head for the gym!
(http://www.movieactors.com/freezeframes510/Rocky81.Jpeg)
You're gonna eat lightnin' and you're gonna crap thunder! Your going to become a very dangerous person. Now remember, I want 500 hard ones. Go!
Quote from: MN Dave on September 08, 2010, 04:22:07 AM
201.5
198.5
Nothing like a little fever to push things along. ;D
Quote from: MN Dave on September 12, 2010, 04:43:54 AM
198.5
Nothing like a little fever to push things along. ;D
I may have to start hanging out in doctors' offices. :D
Quote from: Keemun on September 09, 2010, 01:39:09 PM
194.
193
I don't have one of those fancy scales that does decimals. :P
Good old analog scales ; )
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 13, 2010, 04:48:00 AM
Good old analog scales ; )
It's digital, it just doesn't do decimals. I figure I'm at a .5 when the scale keeps switching between two numbers and won't settle on one. ;)
Quote from: Keemun on September 13, 2010, 05:49:09 AM
It's digital, it just doesn't do decimals. I figure I'm at a .5 when the scale keeps switching between two numbers and won't settle on one. ;)
That's what I figured . . . LED (or LCD) read-out in whole numbers. Where with old analog scales with a dial, some scales you can eyeball the half-lb. mark.
"30% of overweight Americans think they're 'normal'"
ok, I have to vent. The dairy aisle in the grocery store: ohhhhh, how do I put this?
ok, I just HATE fatty fat fats, you know the 400 pounders that waddle around like there's no thing,...I'm talking the fact that almost every other person I see in the store are just,....FOUL
FOUL FOUL FOUL
I feel like I want to start being rude to these people, just for the sheer venting of it. Hey, why should I let yer fat ruin my day? If I feel the need to say something to keep myself from kicking the dog later, I just may have to do that.
Literally, I want to spit on these people,...especially if an "attitude" is discovered. And hey, why should I be afraid? They can't chase me, can they?
I am so serious about my feelings here. I feel like I just want to bread basket one of these "creatures".
Yes, "creatures". There, I'm a bigot. Good for me!!! Bigot me away.
I'm starting to overheat just writing this.
Lately, I have been visiting an Overeater Anonymous meeting here in the area. (I'm 15 pounds underweight, but, nevermind). The conversation in there is pretty awesome. There is a lot of thoughtfulness in that group. I have not yet revealed my "attitude problem", but next time I go, I'm going to let it out (there's really no super fatties in that group, but, even if there were...)
Honestly, if you're on this Thread, and you're 400 pounds,.....oooo,....I don't even know what to say. I want to say I just hate you, but, what does that accomplish?
Now, I know that "The Man" is behind it all
ok, I'm not goin there. ooo, it's just that you people are soooooooooo disgusting. You make me feel like I'm in a Fellini horror movie.
If I could find a troupe, I'd go to grocery store parking lots and just scream at these people for 8 hours a day.
ok, I'm starting to feel a little better.
But seriously, folks,.;...uhm, AMERICAN folks,... if you know a super fatty, give them a hard look from me.
and, if you're going to atttack me, bring-it-on! You have no legs to stand on.
HATEHATEHATEHATE >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D
Guess I'd better drop a few pounds.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 14, 2010, 06:52:04 AM
Guess I'd better drop a few pounds.
I see you standing right there in your picture. Puhleeez. You're "cuddly"! ;D
Little change, but in the right direction. -0.4 lb = 229.0. Had I just not indulged in that pint of Cherry Garcia I'd be under 229! ;D
Down to 212.5
Considering that I have not been eating wwell of late and fluctuated up to 217 only a few days ago, I will take it. Upped my exercise and only drink a Naked juice for lucnh each day.
Quote from: MN Dave on September 12, 2010, 04:43:54 AM
198.5
Nothing like a little fever to push things along. ;D
198
One pound away from my ultimate goal. 8) And then I is done. ;D
Outstanding!
Quote from: MN Dave on September 18, 2010, 04:43:27 AM
198
One pound away from my ultimate goal. 8) And then I is done. ;D
Have to bring this over to its own page! Go, Dave, go!
Thanks, fellers. If I can do it. Y'all can do it.
Quote from: MN Dave on September 18, 2010, 04:43:27 AM
198
One pound away from my ultimate goal. 8) And then I is done. ;D
Just don't start putting it on again. ;)
Quote from: DavidRoss on September 18, 2010, 07:29:10 AM
Just don't start putting it on again. ;)
No way. This whole process has to amount to a change in lifestyle. I think I have it down now.
Quote from: MN Dave on September 18, 2010, 07:38:08 AM
No way. This whole process has to amount to a change in lifestyle. I think I have it down now.
They (who I am not sure ;D) say that if you keep it off for a year, then you body begins to believe that it is where it should be. Mark this date, Dave and dig in brother!
Thanks for the info, Bill.
Quote from: MN Dave on September 18, 2010, 07:38:08 AM
No way. This whole process has to amount to a change in lifestyle. I think I have it down now.
Yes. I like Barry Sears's idea that you should eat to maintain your desired mass--that way, when you get down to the ideal weight, you're already eating appropriately and needn't revise your diet again.
Quote from: DavidRoss on September 18, 2010, 11:14:14 AM
Yes. I like Barry Sears's idea that you should eat to maintain your desired mass--that way, when you get down to the ideal weight, you're already eating appropriately and needn't revise your diet again.
Exactly.
211.5
1.5 from my September goal with more than 10 days to go. Better hop on the bike this morning. ;D
Great job, Bill and Dave!
Quote from: Keemun on September 12, 2010, 05:20:57 PM
193
193.
Plateau? No, probably those glazed donuts with chocolate icing that a well-meaning person delivered to our office this week. ::) Back on track this week!
226.8 (-1.6 in the past week; steady progress)
196.5
Now I have to figure out how to maintain.
Don't stop now! :o
Quote from: Keemun on September 19, 2010, 07:07:53 AM
Great job, Bill and Dave!
193.
Plateau? No, probably those glazed donuts with chocolate icing that a well-meaning person delivered to our office this week. ::) Back on track this week!
9/26: 192 :)
I've upped my calories but am keeping the pounds off. 8)
Looking over this thread sure gives the lie to stereotyping classical music lovers as scrawny little pipsqueaks.
Quote from: DavidRoss on September 29, 2010, 04:27:38 PM
Goo'ness! Ya mean yer less than 14 stone?!
Nay; I should think it a great good if I weighed as little as 14 stone : )
Quote from: Bogey on August 04, 2010, 08:39:29 AM
10 day vacation without workouts and a lot of great southern cooking down in Georgia equaled a 10 pound gain. I am now back to where I started months ago....225.5. :-\
This evening: 209.5
I wanted to get to 210 by October 1. Made my goal and I still have five hours to go.....now, the new goal is 200 by January 1.
Bravo, Bill!
Cool, Bill!
Thanks folks! I have finally embraced the Mediterranean diet that my doc has been trying to get me on. Here is the pyrimid:
(http://www.italialiving.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/mediterranean-diet-food-pyramid.jpg)
However, with some research of my own and without buying a book, the above only works for weight loss if you throw in the exercise and keep the cals between 1200-1500 per day (at least for me). Not rocket science. Eat healthy. Eat less. Exercise. It will be interesting to see how this is going three months from now....but I will tell you, the box of raisins I had with my lunch today (kidney and pinto bean mix) tasted wonderful! ;D
Keep on truckin'. good job
Hear, hear!
Ack! Slow progress lately after three nights eating out with friends. But still progress!
226.0
207....fruits and nuts for lunch, and sensible eating at night.
♫ They say they don't need money, / They're livin' on nuts 'n' berries . . . .
Animals think they're pretty smart
225.4
Good morning, Dave! You unpruned bogusness, you!
And a hearty good mornin' to you, too, sir! Hope you've enjoyed some long leaf today.
I still need to head toward the North End. Just about to, though!
Got half a pound of loose Oolong, and half a pound of Italian Roast coffee ground coarse for the French press at home.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 08, 2010, 10:28:04 AM
Got half a pound of loose Oolong, and half a pound of Italian Roast coffee ground coarse for the French press at home.
Yum.
Quote from: Brian on August 13, 2010, 07:55:20 AM
January 2010: 183
May 2010: 173
August 2010: 166
September 15, 2010: 163
Goal (May 2011): 148
I don't have a scale over here in London. What say the Fat Enders: is it worth getting a scale to check on progress regularly, or should I just be content with my previous strategy, visible above, of weighing in only a few times a year? The reason I ask is that, over the last week or so, I haven't been sure if I'm losing weight or not. I think I have lost a couple pounds since September, though. The new blue jeans are already getting a little baggy.
190
Quote from: Brian on October 08, 2010, 03:11:49 PM
I don't have a scale over here in London. What say the Fat Enders: is it worth getting a scale to check on progress regularly, or should I just be content with my previous strategy, visible above, of weighing in only a few times a year? The reason I ask is that, over the last week or so, I haven't been sure if I'm losing weight or not. I think I have lost a couple pounds since September, though. The new blue jeans are already getting a little baggy.
I prefer regular (weekly) monitoring, so I vote for your acquiring a scale. I like frequent reinforcement that I am still moving in the right direction, or timely warning if I am moving in the wrong direction.
My 'normal' weight s/b around 165. That's where I usually like to be. When I went on Wellbutrin, it caused me such anxiety that I went down to 150 Lbs. However, since late Spring, I went back on Effexor, and also went on Remaron. My anxiety is down, but now I'm up to 175 lbs. :)
Jeans that were falling off are now too tight. :-[ I'm sure that once I get back into the workplace, some of the weight will come off. I'm trying to go on the treadmill ever day or every second day. Plus, my wife says if I lay off the peanut butter a bit, it will help a lot. I can eat that stuff by the boat load. ;D :D 8)
Quote from: Keemun on October 26, 2010, 05:20:38 PM
10/24: 187
10/31: 189 Stupid Halloween! >:D
Quote from: ChamberNut on October 26, 2010, 05:44:30 PM
My 'normal' weight s/b around 165. That's where I usually like to be. When I went on Wellbutrin, it caused me such anxiety that I went down to 150 Lbs. However, since late Spring, I went back on Effexor, and also went on Remaron. My anxiety is down, but now I'm up to 175 lbs. :)
Jeans that were falling off are now too tight. :-[ I'm sure that once I get back into the workplace, some of the weight will come off. I'm trying to go on the treadmill ever day or every second day. Plus, my wife says if I lay off the peanut butter a bit, it will help a lot. I can eat that stuff by the boat load. ;D :D 8)
Good luck losing the extra weight. :)
Quote from: Keemun on November 02, 2010, 08:36:00 AM
10/31: 189 Stupid Halloween! >:D
My limit is two bite-size pieces of candy per day. And at least three pieces of fruit.
I am keeping it off. 8)
January 2010: 183
May 2010: 173
August 2010: 166
15 September, 2010: 163
6 November, 2010: 158.5
Goal (May 2011): 148
I'm definitely starting to feel, and appreciate, the weight loss. 8)
Great job folks!
Mid August 225
Now 203
My goal by Christmas was 200. I should be able to reach that. Then 175 by the end of next summer. That would put me at my high school weight at the age of 46.
Great progress/maintenance, everyone!
I was at 189 again this week, but not losing weight is better than gaining it. I started on a medication about 3 weeks ago that has a potential side effect of weight gain (I've noticed my appetite has increased), so I need to be more vigilant if I am to continue losing weight.
Quote from: Bogey on November 07, 2010, 03:30:06 AM
Great job folks!
Mid August 225
Now 203
My goal by Christmas was 200. I should be able to reach that. Then 175 by the end of next summer. That would put me at my high school weight at the age of 46.
Wow, my hat is off to you, Bill!
202
200! Giving myself up for Thanksgiving, but the rest of the month should be on target.
Quote from: Keemun on November 21, 2010, 06:29:55 AM
188, again. ::)
Once is luck, twice is skill. Great job!
199. Nice to see a 1 in the hundreds' place.
Well done, indeed, Bill!
Time to revive this thread and catch up on my progress (or rather lack thereof). As you can see, the holidays were not kind to my weight loss goal. :(
11/28: 190
12/5: 189
12/12: 193
12/19: 192
12/26: 194
1/1: 193
1/9: 193
1/16: 192
Hey, Todd, maybe that explains why nobody had posted in this thread since Thanksgiving. ;D ;D
Quote from: Brian on November 07, 2010, 01:54:10 AM
January 2010: 183
May 2010: 173
August 2010: 166
15 September, 2010: 163
6 November, 2010: 158.5
I haven't weighed in since 6 November - no scale, after all - but I definitely feel like I've lost some weight since then. Gained some over the holidays but lost a little more on the way back. Walking 6-7 miles per day in Spain must have helped offset the tapas and gofres. :)
P.S. This is a gofre (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1nBW0QZh_qs/SwySEHfzeSI/AAAAAAAAAFw/8O_TEfj1l74/s400/gofre.gif) - warning click only if you have iron self-discipline!
Quote from: Brian on January 16, 2011, 12:19:16 PM
Hey, Todd, maybe that explains why nobody had posted in this thread since Thanksgiving. ;D ;D
Yeah, I suspected as much.
Quote from: Brian on January 16, 2011, 12:19:16 PM
P.S. This is a gofre (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1nBW0QZh_qs/SwySEHfzeSI/AAAAAAAAAFw/8O_TEfj1l74/s400/gofre.gif) - warning click only if you have iron self-discipline!
The gofre looks really good. :D Is that chocolate sauce on top?
Quote from: Keemun on January 16, 2011, 06:58:45 PM
Yeah, I suspected as much.
The gofre looks really good. :D Is that chocolate sauce on top?
Yep, chocolate sauce, and mine had banana slices. I figured it was healthier that way. :)
Losing weight:
couple days ago 97 kg --> 95,5 kg.
Eating healthy, no more unhealthy snacks for me. The long-term kick of feeling healthy is better then the short kicks of snacks, which aren't tasty at all actually. I do some jogging and cycling, when I have reached the desirable body shape, I'll quit with it. Sports is just a way for me to lose weight, not to improve fitness.
Henk
Quote from: Henk on February 11, 2011, 12:38:09 PM
Sports is just a way for me to lose weight, not to improve fitness.
And a way to have fun, on top of that! :)
January 2010: 183
May 2010: 173
August 2010: 166
15 September, 2010: 163
6 November, 2010: 158.5
20 February, 2011: 146
Goal (May 2011): 148
Wowzers! I did it! Bought a smaller pair of jeans to celebrate. And a package of caramel shortcakes. I also bought a scale, but given how well things were going without it, maybe I shouldn't have.
Way to go, dude! Celebrate!
Outstanding, Brian!
Yep, very nice job, Brian. Now you're even lighter than me. :o
I have never gained weight on steak. Truth.
I am still maintaining at 199 pounds. I will make it back down to my target of 197 but am taking my time as bumping under 200 was always the goal.
Bravo, laddie!
I'll make an effort to bring down the weight a bit this summer.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 27, 2011, 07:15:03 AM
Bravo, laddie!
I'll make an effort to bring down the weight a bit this summer.
Great! And thanks.
Just got my blood test results back and thanks to losing all this weight I no longer have to take pills to lower my cholesterol. 0:)
Hope this provides some incentive for those who need it.
Quote from: Mn Dave on June 12, 2011, 04:34:03 AM
Just got my blood test results back and thanks to losing all this weight I no longer have to take pills to lower my cholesterol. 0:)
Hope this provides some incentive for those who need it.
Indeed....I do not work out to look good anymore, but rather my main goal is to keep my cholesterol down and hopefully not ever worry about type 2 diabetes while enjoying a "not so good for you meal" every once in a great while.
Quote from: Brian on February 20, 2011, 07:23:34 AM
January 2010: 183
May 2010: 173
August 2010: 166
15 September, 2010: 163
6 November, 2010: 158.5
20 February, 2011: 146
Weighing in at 156 now. I'm back in this game, folks. :(
Nicely done!
Myself, I've gotten into a good routine of taking an hour's walk around the pond four times a week, or more.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 27, 2011, 07:15:03 AM
Bravo, laddie!
I'll make an effort to bring down the weight a bit this summer.
Some success, I think. I've a check-up next week, I'll see what the data points are then.
Quote from: MN Dave on June 12, 2011, 04:34:03 AM
Just got my blood test results back and thanks to losing all this weight I no longer have to take pills to lower my cholesterol. 0:)
Hope this provides some incentive for those who need it.
Outstanding! That's where I should like to trend.
Think I'd better buy scales . . . at the point where I want to keep track, just had a physical and am pretty much where I was 14 months ago. Time to get serious about loss. True to my intent, though, I have indeed been walking more, and regularly. I suppose keeping tighter rein on the diet must be next.
Quote from: Keemun on October 11, 2010, 09:17:44 AM
. . . I prefer regular (weekly) monitoring, so I vote for your acquiring a scale. I like frequent reinforcement that I am still moving in the right direction, or timely warning if I am moving in the wrong direction.
Finally got a scale, myself. It must have arrived 25 Sep. With some fluctuation (maybe it's New Toy Syndrome, but I've enjoyed taking daily readings) in between, the trend has been good: my weight on 26 Sep was 230, and this morning, 225.
Ye gods! Have backslided a bit. Am 207.5 and want to bump below 200.
So, the thread is back!!
300 calories/2 miles on the treadmill today. 0:)
Good job! I'd race you to 200, only you must win, since you've already been there! : )
Ha!
206 this morning.
Still 206. :-\
I'm in a holding pattern, likewise.
I'm not trying hard enough. :P
Ditto, but then, I'm going to the doc for a procedure Wednesday, and this is of necessity throwing my diet. If I can get out for a walk after taking a mechanic for a drive in the car I will.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 17, 2011, 12:20:56 PM
...I'm going to the doc for a procedure Wednesday...
Any cause for concern here? ???
Don't think so, routine thang. Thanks for asking, laddie!
Just went for a half hour's walk, and register at 215.4 lb.
205.5 this morning.
Bravo!
My screening yesterday went well (I slept through it, and it's all good). A couple of long days now, but I'll go for a good walk Saturday morning!
Walking is one of the best things ever.
And it's simplicity itself.
204.5
213.6
You see, I know you'll win : )
We all win when we lose weight! :P
Woot!
Just back from an hour's walk around the pond. Feels great!
Very good!
207 ???
211.2
Just back from a very nice walk.
Very nice.
206.5
205
207.5 :-X
206
We're gettin' there!
206
I can see I'm taking my time about this. :)
206.4 this morning. I went for a good walk after work yesterday . . . the change in weather (among other momentary variables) has broken up the vigor of my walk routine. At least, we're keeping at a plateau : )
204, a new low for me!
Quote from: karlhenning on November 04, 2011, 01:24:40 AM
This morning: 200.
you lost 4 lbs in one night? I feel like an error in measurement is far more likely than this actually having accured. Unless you had the biggest bowl movement in the history of the earth.
Quote from: Guido on November 04, 2011, 06:07:04 AM
you lost 4 lbs in one night? I feel like an error in measurement is far more likely than this actually having accured. Unless you had the biggest bowl movement in the history of the earth.
Probably the measurement is a bit dodgy, I've not mastered use of the scale. I am not invested too heavily in day to day numbers, but the overall trend must be reliable. Thanks for your concern : )
This morning: 201.4
206.5 >:(
Reached 209 the other day. :o
Hitting it hard now. Down to 205.5 :)
Woot!
I'm still with the program! Just not reporting here . . . .
Why not? Oh, no one else is playing. I see.
208.5. :-\
152
oh, wait... hey, you're saying I can't play this game? I don't wanna be left out! :(
You can play...if you're four feet tall. ;D
229.2
???
Quote from: Ataraxia on January 15, 2012, 05:55:21 AM
???
Well, I don't quite get it . . . but the scales were reading one way the first couple of months I had 'em, and then there was a seismic shift. It was a surprise, as I was led to believe that my weight was, well, way down (and where I want to get it, to be sure).
But the good news is in two parts, first, that the scales do seem stable now and in accord with reality (my doctor was very pleased with my weight reading when I stopped in, in December), and second, that my waistline is indeed decreasing.
Goals for the year are 200lb, and 160 walks.
Quote from: karlhenning on January 15, 2012, 06:04:41 AM
Goals for the year are 200lb, and 160 walks.[/font]
Excellent. I'll be watching. ;D
And walking...
Well, not proud of this, but hit my all time high weight....233.
Joined Weight Watchers. I did this before with my wife and it worked well. However, this will only work if it is a life style change and not a diet. I like "mathy" stuff, so maybe their calculator will engage me. Thanks to George though, it helps that I have cut my sugar intake to a minimum. Fingers crossed.
Vanessa lost about 10 lbs in the past few weeks, and her waist line is more than 4 inches (10 cm) smaller.
I have lost a bit, I don't know how much, but at least some of the fat has turned to muscle and I look a lot thinner.
Our secret? Well, exercise and becoming an almost vegetarian. We eat probably less than half a lb of meat per week.
Immediately after walk № 8 this morning (almost an hour and a half), I read 228.3.
Quote from: karlhenning on January 16, 2012, 11:30:29 AM
Immediately after walk № 8 this morning (almost an hour and a half), I read 228.3.
You took eight walks in a single morning?! :o ;D
Hah, no, it's the eighth walk this year, and I am aiming for at least 160 (a bit more than three per week).
208.5
::)
My goal is below 200.
!!!
???
"Good for you!"
Well, I've been hovering around this weight for quite a while and want to lower it, but I don't think I'm trying very hard.
Quote from: Ataraxia on January 17, 2012, 05:59:17 AM
Well, I've been hovering around this weight for quite a while and want to lower it, but I don't think I'm trying very hard.
I applaud that you are comparatively near your goal : )
Instead of eating a lunch and a mid-afternoon snack, Split up your lunch; eat half of it at lunchtime and half at mid-afternoon.
Quote from: Ataraxia on January 17, 2012, 07:47:04 AM
Instead of eating a lunch and a mid-afternoon snack, Split up your lunch; eat half of it at lunchtime and half at mid-afternoon.
Brilliant. That late afternoon is definitely my most difficult period of the day.
230.0 this morning, so, aye, holding steady.
208 for me.
With the wintry weather, I anticipate somewhat less freedom to walk; so I am inured to the idea of little or no progress. But if I can keep from a gain, I shall be content . . . and reckon on actual progress come spring.
Quote from: karlhenning on January 18, 2012, 04:00:03 AM
With the wintry weather, I anticipate somewhat less freedom to walk; so I am inured to the idea of little or no progress. But if I can keep from a gain, I shall be content . . . and reckon on actual progress come spring.
You might join a club. Or find a treadmill some other way.
Or walk in place to an excercise show/video. ;D
I appreciate your suggestions, laddie! You're right, there have got to be alternatives.
I should make a video for the classical crowd: Sweating to Sweelinck
I'd make millions! ;)
>:( 209 >:(
More Sweelinck!
My Weight Watchers has me weigh in weekly (Sunday for me). I could always weigh each day, but I will try to wait the week.
Whatever works for you, my friend. :)
Quote from: Ataraxia on January 19, 2012, 03:04:44 PM
Whatever works for you, my friend. :)
This tracker thing they have is pretty cool. Since I was heavy enough ;D they gave me plenty of points to play with. Also, I can earn points through activity....this has got me not missing any work outs or opportunities to walk instead of driving. You walk, you eat. You drive, you don't eat. Or, you sack -up and just lose them at the end of the week. No roll over here. :D
207
This from wearing my pedometer I think, so I'm sure to get in lots of steps.
229.4 this morning
Quote from: karlhenning on January 20, 2012, 05:34:35 AM
229.4 this morning
Progress. How tall are you, if I may ask?
6 foot. Early in the day, 6 foot one inch : )
Aye, any day that second digit is not a 3, I feel good about the month of January. I think you're apt to be taller than I,and so you must be slenderer, as well, meseems.
Quote from: karlhenning on January 20, 2012, 05:48:04 AM
6 foot. Early in the day, 6 foot one inch : )
Aye, any day that second digit is not a 3, I feel good about the month of January. I think you're apt to be taller than I,and so you must be slenderer, as well, meseems.
Makes sense. I'm 6'5" unless I've shrunk.
206.5 :)
207.5 ::)
Quote from: Bogey on January 16, 2012, 05:58:06 AM
Well, not proud of this, but hit my all time high weight....233.
227
229.2 which is exactly what the scales read a week ago to-day. Again . . . given the week what was, I have to be pleased there wasn't the opposite of progress (or is stasis the opposite of progress?)
Quote from: karlhenning on January 22, 2012, 08:01:26 AM
'At's trending in the right direction, Bill!
Really had to be vigilant about getting my exercise in and being honest with my food tracking, even if it was a pass by nibble of some leftovers in the fridge. I have a few events that have food being offered....one this afternoon. Hopefully fruit will be on the table and I will camp out by that, so I know what you are saying with a "given week" Karl that staying "put" is a success. Keep us appraised of the walks. Did I miss how you came up with the walk number you did?
160 is just over an average of 3 walks per week. Of course, when the weather is clement, I should be able to beat the average with handy regularity . . . but I also had New England winter weather in view.
227.8
Good morning, lads!
I started weight watchers 3 weeks ago, and I earned my first yellow star (for losing your first five lbs) this past weekend.
Bravo!
Quote from: DavidW on January 25, 2012, 04:07:50 AM
I started weight watchers 3 weeks ago, and I earned my first yellow star (for losing your first five lbs) this past weekend.
Ring that bell! Nicely done, David.
Yesterday 209.5
Today 207
Go figure.
(Well done, Dave)
207.5
I have decided to stop eating.
230.4
Oatmeal with flaxseed for breakfast.
I've had to tighten my belt by one notch last week, and another notch this week. My clothes are more comfy than they've been in a long time. I usually switch to comfy clothes when I get home and I actually FORGOT last night. :)
Quote from: Bogey on January 16, 2012, 05:58:06 AM
Well, not proud of this, but hit my all time high weight....233.
A day short of being two weeks into Weight Watchers (had to weigh in early as we are heading to the mountains today for some snow-shoeing and tubing):
223.5
Really enjoy their activity tracker which allows you to store away points for some treats or and extra specail meal. Makes me get on the bike more, even if I only have half the time that I usually allocate for exercise.....points are points. The key is that if you do not use them by the end of the week they to do not carry over.
How many lbs have you lost total Bill?
Quote from: DavidW on January 28, 2012, 04:46:02 AM
How many lbs have you lost total Bill?
Almost 10 (started at 233)....however, you need to remember that I have never been more than 220 or so, so when I knew that I started trying to lose with any fidelity, the first few weeks would be fairly easy to lose....at least I was hoping this. However, I am about to enter that zone of a grind where it will turn to 1-2 pounds per week if I work hard at it. The one thing I am pleased with more than the weight loss though is that I have been exercising almost every day and that has been during a busy work week while fighting a cold. Usually I would just shut down the workouts, but those points are too large of a motivation.
Right now I have saved 57 activity points and they turn into a pumpkin at midnight. However, we are having Chinese takeout tonight and that stuff is not friendly to to this body and I absolutely love it.
229.8 this morning. Now: off to work.
57 activity points!! :o You've been exercising like crazy. My goal for this week is just to get to 14 activity points. I've only lost 1 lb this week, but at least it's not a gain! My goal for next week is to minimize the amount I eat out, and try to aim for balancing the points between the three meals.
Looks like I spoke to soon, did my weekly weigh in this am and I lost another 2.3 lbs bring my total loss to 9.2 lbs. :)
I've been chided by weight watchers for losing too fast. ::)
Went for a nice walk this morning, weighed in after at 227.6
My evening weigh-in is 230.4, which is actually progress over time.
229.0 first thing this morning. (Went for a good 90-minute walk yester even.)
Quote from: karlhenning on February 01, 2012, 02:01:24 AM
229.0 first thing this morning. (Went for a good 90-minute walk yester even.)
Excellent!
Good morning, Bill!
Hmm, last three months have been a rollercoaster due to medication/depression. 6'1" for reference. (at no point have I been dieting or deliberately trying to change my weight)
Three months ago: 238 pounds
2 weeks ago: 218 pounds
Today: 224 pounds
*shrugs*
Quote from: Bogey on January 16, 2012, 05:58:06 AM
Well, not proud of this, but hit my all time high weight....233.
Well, back to 224 after a week....that is a half pound gain. Stuck to the plan, but maybe spreading out my extra points instead of using them all in a a day or two might be a better avenue to take.
Quote from: Bogey on February 05, 2012, 06:35:40 AM
Well, back to 224 after a week....that is a half pound gain. Stuck to the plan, but maybe spreading out my extra points instead of using them all in a a day or two might be a better avenue to take.
I hit a plateau. Same weight as last week. I'm going to try to eat out less... but that's obviously after my trip! :D
Too bad weight watchers doesn't fully work right on their my kindle fire or my ipod... I have to bring my laptop with me.
Quote from: DavidW on February 05, 2012, 01:09:15 PM
I hit a plateau. Same weight as last week. I'm going to try to eat out less... but that's obviously after my trip! :D
Too bad weight watchers doesn't fully work right on their my kindle fire or my ipod... I have to bring my laptop with me.
I have a Super Bowl party to head to....yikes! I have 37 left from today, all my extras (this is day 1, though) and I have 13 activity points. All in all, these should get me to half time! :D
229.8 this morning
Down to 220. Right direction at least.
Quote from: Bogey on January 16, 2012, 05:58:06 AM
Well, not proud of this, but hit my all time high weight....233.
221
Quote from: Bogey on February 10, 2012, 05:17:34 AM
221
Looks like someone earned a cd! ;D
I won't be earning mine this week but I can tell you from my trip that crawfish etouffee is delicious! :D
(http://img4.southernliving.com/i/2009/02/mardi-gras/crawfish-etouffee-l.jpg?400:400)
Quote from: Bogey on February 10, 2012, 05:17:34 AM
221
Ditto. Happy enough with near 220 at the moment.
January 2010: 183
May 2010: 173
August 2010: 166
15 September, 2010: 163
6 November, 2010: 158.5
20 February, 2011: 146 weight loss goal achieved
12 July, 2011: 156 ...and unachieved
Thanksgiving 2011: 165
10 February 2011: 156
I'm back on the wagon, folks! New goal: 150 by spring break (4 weeks), 140 and staying there by my birthday (August).
Quote from: Brian on February 10, 2012, 03:21:07 PM
January 2010: 183
May 2010: 173
August 2010: 166
15 September, 2010: 163
6 November, 2010: 158.5
20 February, 2011: 146 weight loss goal achieved
12 July, 2011: 156 ...and unachieved
Thanksgiving 2011: 165
10 February 2011: 156
I'm back on the wagon, folks! New goal: 150 by spring break (4 weeks), 140 and staying there by my birthday (August).
Instead of worrying about "wild Dvoraks" Brian, I would be concerned about strong winds. Nice job!
(http://images.clipartof.com/small/5007-Person-Getting-Blown-Around-In-The-Wind-Poster-Art-Print.jpg)
I spoke too soon!!! I did my official weigh in this am and I lost a lb bringing my weight loss to 10.2 lbs!! I've earned another milestone. :)
Quote from: DavidW on February 12, 2012, 05:18:24 AM
I spoke too soon!!! I did my official weigh in this am and I lost a lb bringing my weight loss to 10.2 lbs!! I've earned another milestone. :)
(think The Price is Right type of voice over here)
....and....a brand new
carcd!
Quote from: DavidW on February 12, 2012, 10:18:24 AM (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php?topic=13022.msg600815#msg600815)
I spoke too soon!!! I did my official weigh in this am and I lost a lb bringing my weight loss to 10.2 lbs!! I've earned another milestone. :)
Splendid!
220.
Weight has stabilised over the past week. This is good and should give me a baseline to work from. I should see some weight loss once I get off my ass and start exercising regularly. Being 20lb lighter than my worst this year is also nice, as is no longer being on medication that causes weight gain.
Quote from: Bogey on January 16, 2012, 05:58:06 AM
Well, not proud of this, but hit my all time high weight....233.
219
Way to go, Bill!
About to head out of town for the mango cure . . . .
Lost another 2 lbs! I'm now less than 2 lbs from my first goal (5% of my body weight). :) In a week or two I hope to have finally reached that first goal.
Quote from: DavidW on February 19, 2012, 05:52:46 AM
Lost another 2 lbs! I'm now less than 2 lbs from my first goal (5% of my body weight). :) In a week or two I hope to have finally reached that first goal.
Cool!
Quote from: DavidW on February 19, 2012, 05:52:46 AM
Lost another 2 lbs! I'm now less than 2 lbs from my first goal (5% of my body weight). :) In a week or two I hope to have finally reached that first goal.
Well done.
230.0 this morning. Hope to make more (or proper) progress this week coming!
Thanks everyone! :)
Quote from: nesf on February 15, 2012, 01:17:57 AM
220.
Weight has stabilised over the past week. This is good and should give me a baseline to work from. I should see some weight loss once I get off my ass and start exercising regularly. Being 20lb lighter than my worst this year is also nice, as is no longer being on medication that causes weight gain.
New baseline version of the above (different clothes): 217.6lb
This morning: 214.8
Water weight differences make up a lot of this I'm assuming.
Quote from: DavidW on February 19, 2012, 05:52:46 AM
Lost another 2 lbs! I'm now less than 2 lbs from my first goal (5% of my body weight). :) In a week or two I hope to have finally reached that first goal.
Davvid, do you have the Glass Piano cd?
Quote from: karlhenning on February 19, 2012, 10:17:08 AM
230.0 this morning. Hope to make more (or proper) progress this week coming!
Wow, that's great Karl! Congratulations! Keep it up!
207.5
7.5 to go...
218. That makes it 15 total since 1/16.
Down another one and a half pounds. Not bad considering I ate double my allocated points last Sunday during the Academy Awards ceremony. Now at 216.5 :)
Outstanding progress, Bill!
Just back from vacation, and while I made no progress, I seem not to have lost ground, either.
Quote from: karlhenning on March 02, 2012, 03:14:46 AM
Outstanding progress, Bill!
Just back from vacation, and while I made no progress, I seem not to have lost ground, either.
I think that's the best you can hope for after any kind of traveling. I was happy to see last week that I managed to lose any weight (.8 lbs). I wonder if this will be my big week to finally achieve my 5% goal... will see.
Quote from: nesf on February 22, 2012, 04:10:05 AM
New baseline version of the above (different clothes): 217.6lb
This morning: 214.8
Water weight differences make up a lot of this I'm assuming.
213.4
Happy with this. Have around a 500 calorie per day deficit so this rate of weight loss is about right.
I lost 1.6 lbs in the past two weeks (.8 lbs per week). I just missed my milestone by .2 lbs... I guess next week. But I did lose a point from my daily points target, and I've been looking forward to that for weeks! :)
Quote from: DavidW on March 04, 2012, 06:29:52 AM
I lost 1.6 lbs in the past two weeks (.8 lbs per week). I just missed my milestone by .2 lbs... I guess next week. But I did lose a point from my daily points target, and I've been looking forward to that for weeks! :)
Cool low-fat beans, David!
(* chortle *)
Quote from: Bogey on March 04, 2012, 08:08:58 AM
Cool low-fat beans, David!
Yup cool 0 point black beans! ;D
Down another half this week. Total of 17. Would like to see three more gone in the next two weeks, but I will have to really earn that. Starting to jog/walk combo on trails again, so that will give me a break from the stationary bike two or three times a week. My water intake has become pathetic, so time to work on that as well.
Sometimes it's a slog Bill, keep at it!
Well done, Bill!
232.4 this morning . . . weather's improving, and I can smell more exercise in the air! (Hm, not sure that came out right . . . .)
My official weigh in is not until Sunday but it looks like 3.6 lbs for this week. But that's not a triumph of discipline... I've been under a huge amount of stress this week from work and my appetite has been greatly reduced.
208.5 and going nowhere fast. ;D
Quote from: MN Dave on March 09, 2012, 04:25:27 AM
208.5 and going nowhere fast. ;D
Dude, you need more of Stravinsky's lean harmonies in your listening diet!
Quote from: karlhenning on March 09, 2012, 04:27:36 AM
Dude, you need more of Stravinsky's lean harmonies in your listening diet!
Ha!
No Stravinsky, but down another pound....215 (total of 18).
hey - being portly never stood in Bach or Sibelius' way - did it!
;D
Go, Bill, go!
231.2
Went for lovely long walk this beauteous spring-like day.
Lying in bed didn't help. ::)
210.5
We should move this to the sf/fantasy/horror thread.
:)
Or the Kindle/Nook thread : )
Quote from: MN Dave on March 20, 2012, 08:04:04 AM
We should move this to the sf/fantasy/horror thread.
:)
Beat me to a new avatar, Dave. I asked Que to help move it.
232.2 first thing this morning
208 :)
Good on ya, laddie!
206.2, getting there.
:)
Great news, there, gents. Keep 'dem doggies rollin'.
212. Down 21.
Outstanding, Bill!
Good work, Slim.
Work outs are going well and the weather has been perfect. Here is my new gym:
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rbR9hPqruWQ/S-1lXB9tPHI/AAAAAAAAB5Q/CwQLapRfjsE/s1600/IMG_3234-1.jpg)
Pulling back and looking west:
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_M_QjHp-G-aU/TNnSsAicl2E/AAAAAAAB0_U/3IUsQQoJhyo/StandleyLakeWestminsterColoradoNovember62010.jpg)
There are trails every which way around the lake and hills as well. One of the prettiest calorie furnaces I could ask for and only two minutes from the homestead.
Congrats Bill! I owe you a cd. I'm also exactly down 21 lbs as well. You sent me enough though, no need to send me another cd! :D
I lost 4.4 lbs in the last couple of weeks.
Quote from: DavidW on March 26, 2012, 05:23:06 PM
Congrats Bill! I owe you a cd. I'm also exactly down 21 lbs as well. You sent me enough though, no need to send me another cd! :D
I lost 4.4 lbs in the last couple of weeks.
Cooooooooooolness, my friend. Are you on spring break yet? I am finding that I am eating a bit more on vacation. I'd better go get on the bike. I have begun weighing myself mid-week to see if I am staying within striking distance. Not sure if this is a good thing to do, but it seems to working so far.
Woo-hoo!
Quote from: Bogey on March 27, 2012, 06:43:02 AM
Cooooooooooolness, my friend. Are you on spring break yet? I am finding that I am eating a bit more on vacation. I'd better go get on the bike. I have begun weighing myself mid-week to see if I am staying within striking distance. Not sure if this is a good thing to do, but it seems to working so far.
Just got back from spring break. I lost a bunch because I was eating home cooked food instead of fast food. Probably put on some weight from the decadent eating on my final job interview in Florida though.
Quote from: DavidW on March 27, 2012, 07:02:01 AM
Just got back from spring break. I lost a bunch because I was eating home cooked food instead of fast food. Probably put on some weight from the decadent eating on my final job interview in Florida though.
Florida? Did I miss a post? What does Florida have that Oklah.... (as Dave put it about the Romans, never mind ;D).
My end is getting fatter. Do I win? ???
You forgot to take off your helmet and drop your sword before getting on the scale....let 'em go Dave, let 'em go.
Quote from: Bogey on March 27, 2012, 08:33:56 AM
You forgot to take off your helmet and drop your sword before getting on the scale....let 'em go Dave, let 'em go.
Argh!! Of course!
210.5
Total=22.5
Huzzah! : )
Awesome Bill!
Well, OK, I was never fat, but I have gone down from 80kg to 72 kg.
211 fat increments.
Quote from: Ataraxia on April 02, 2012, 12:29:28 PM
211 fat increments.
What is your lowest in the last year or so, Dave?
Quote from: Bogey on April 02, 2012, 01:58:08 PM
What is your lowest in the last year or so, Dave?
196 :)
Quote from: Ataraxia on April 02, 2012, 01:59:27 PM
196 :)
Did that suit you, or are you better off at your height at the 211 mark?
Quote from: Bogey on April 02, 2012, 02:01:04 PM
Did that suit you, or are you better off at your height at the 211 mark?
The less the better. 196 would be swell. 211 is pushing toward the Overweight Zone.
Thought I'd chime in here as someone in the process of dropping pounds.
Started my latest (of many) weight loss campaigns in October 2011 at 260 lbs (I'm 6-foot-2).
Most recent weigh-in was about two weeks ago: 223 lbs. My ultimate goal is 180 - that's what I weighed at my wedding 12 years ago! The weight loss has come from that tried-and-true combination of diet and exercise. Tracking my food intake here helped: http://www.myfitnesspal.com (http://www.myfitnesspal.com) Having an elliptical trainer in our spare bedroom is a bonus, too, as is plenty of classical music on the iPod. :)
I've been less diligent in recent months, but I hope to get back on track very soon. We just booked a family vacation to Maui in July - that should certainly provide me some motivation! :D
-James
Quote from: classicalgeek on April 02, 2012, 02:07:35 PM
Thought I'd chime in here as someone in the process of dropping pounds.
Started my latest (of many) weight loss campaigns in October 2011 at 260 lbs (I'm 6-foot-2).
Most recent weigh-in was about two weeks ago: 223 lbs. My ultimate goal is 180 - that's what I weighed at my wedding 12 years ago! The weight loss has come from that tried-and-true combination of diet and exercise. Tracking my food intake here helped: http://www.myfitnesspal.com (http://www.myfitnesspal.com) Having an elliptical trainer in our spare bedroom is a bonus, too, as is plenty of classical music on the iPod. :)
I've been less diligent in recent months, but I hope to get back on track very soon. We just booked a family vacation to Maui in July - that should certainly provide me some motivation! :D
-James
We have considered an elliptical. What type do you have? (and congrats on the weight loss).
Congrats classicalgeek on the weight loss! I used an elliptical for a spell several years ago, I lost alot of weight fast. It's a great machine.
Quote from: DavidW on April 02, 2012, 04:10:43 PM
Congrats classicalgeek on the weight loss! I used an elliptical for a spell several years ago, I lost alot of weight fast. It's a great machine.
Thank you!
Quote from: Bogey on April 02, 2012, 02:21:14 PM
We have considered an elliptical. What type do you have? (and congrats on the weight loss).
Thanks! I will have a look when I get home. We bought it about eight years ago, not cheap ($1500 or so) but durable and worth the investment.
My vision was blurry this morning but I think I was 210.
231.8
Can't find my scale so I won't officially start yet, but y'all done inspired me. I'll lose weight with with you. I need to, and maybe this'll help....
Quote from: coffee on April 03, 2012, 01:04:11 PM
Can't find my scale so I won't officially start yet, but y'all done inspired me. I'll lose weight with with you. I need to, and maybe this'll help....
Plenty of room here...in fact, we hope that the there is even more room as we move along. :D Welcome!
Quote from: Bogey on April 03, 2012, 01:10:59 PM
Plenty of room here...
Wow, look at all the extra space since the room was first opened!
Quote from: Bogey on April 03, 2012, 01:10:59 PM
Plenty of room here...in fact, we hope that the there is even more room as we move along. :D Welcome!
Thanks man.
My wife tells me that our scale's battery is dead.
Probably shows you all I need to know about me - didn't know where the scale was, didn't know the battery was dead...
Quote from: classicalgeek on April 02, 2012, 05:39:41 PM
Thank you!
Thanks! I will have a look when I get home. We bought it about eight years ago, not cheap ($1500 or so) but durable and worth the investment.
The brand is Essential Fitness, the model number is XT4. I looked up when we bought it - October 2003. So it's probably long discontinued - I'm not sure what they're like nowadays. But I highly recommend an elliptical if you're looking for one piece of home fitness equipment.
Quote from: coffee on April 03, 2012, 07:55:26 PM
Probably shows you all I need to know about me - didn't know where the scale was, didn't know the battery was dead...
But I know there's a scale, somewhere. And I've heard of batteries . . . .
Quote from: classicalgeek on April 03, 2012, 08:37:48 PM
The brand is Essential Fitness, the model number is XT4. I looked up when we bought it - October 2003. So it's probably long discontinued - I'm not sure what they're like nowadays. But I highly recommend an elliptical if you're looking for one piece of home fitness equipment.
Craigs list time! :D
Down .5 this week...now at 210. My friend at work just joined weight wathcers. He just dropped 4 the first week. :)
231.0 this morning. Good shedding, all!
229.8 this morning.
From last measurement I gained 2 lbs, but this week I lost most of it again. Not surprised I'm fluctuating around the weight I had after the huge loss from spring break. I haven't had much exercise (due to being overly tired) so I'm pleasantly surprised that I didn't put half of it back on.
It's creeping up.
Time to get mad again. >:(
Quote from: DavidW on April 08, 2012, 05:47:29 AM
From last measurement I gained 2 lbs, but this week I lost most of it again. Not surprised I'm fluctuating around the weight I had after the huge loss from spring break. I haven't had much exercise (due to being overly tired) so I'm pleasantly surprised that I didn't put half of it back on.
The bit in italics is no great distance from where I am at present.
Quote from: karlhenning on April 09, 2012, 05:05:17 AM
The bit in italics is no great distance from where I am at present.
Part of the way up Mt. Everest sometimes you just have to set up camp and weather out the storm. ;D
Aye!
Vicariously, my brother is 20# lighter now than his previous doctor's appt!
Quote from: karlhenning on April 08, 2012, 04:13:30 AM
229.8 this morning.
Nice to see that 2 in the tens' place, Karl. How are the walks going?
Quote from: Bogey on April 09, 2012, 04:52:35 PM
Nice to see that 2 in the tens' place, Karl. How are the walks going?
Thanks, Bill! The walks I need to go on with greater frequency. I went on a nice 'un yester even, and so (at last) I can again post a figure with the 2 in the tens' spot this morning: 229.8, encore : )
After a lunchtime walk: 227.6
This is what incentivizes me for walks, yeah!
Quote from: karlhenning on April 13, 2012, 09:13:31 AM
After a lunchtime walk: 227.6
This is what incentivizes me for walks, yeah!
Excellent work, Karl! :D
I've resumed tracking my food consumption this week (on MyFitnessPal.com) and I'm already feeling better, even though I haven't gotten on the elliptical yet.
The sun is out, though - so maybe a lunchtime walk is in my future...
Quote from: karlhenning on April 13, 2012, 09:13:31 AM
After a lunchtime walk: 227.6
This is what incentivizes me for walks, yeah!
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTVns7NNsaDF7tBj4F8DtPSLHM6RIHayWURTkpAnelpm0OLub2YV4B6eDlrLg)
Hit my 10% loss mark. This was the first main goal Weight Watchers set for me. Now at 208.5, down 24.5. My final goal weight is 175. Long way to go.
Congrats Bill! I'm a few lbs away from reaching my 10% and my motivation is low. I have too much going on in my life right now to care about my weight.
Quote from: DavidW on April 14, 2012, 05:43:51 AM
Congrats Bill! I'm a few lbs away from reaching my 10% and my motivation is low. I have too much going on in my life right now to care about my weight.
Just make sure when you are not home that you have plenty of hand fruit to grab (buy a cool bowl for your desk and keep it full) and Subway is a decent "gotta have lunch/dinner NOW" place to camp. Also, berries are in. Load up on those and throw a lite yogurt or quarter cup of Cool Whip on top to coat them with sweetness. Just things that got me through the busy times we had at work before Spring Break. Hang in there, buddy.
Conquer, dudes!
I hover between 178-180 (I'm 6' tall), down from 212 eight years ago. Diabetes type II will do that for you! Man, giving up sweets and starchy food cold turkey was pure torture for a while, but actually, a diabetic's diet is good for everyone. Getting diagnosed was probably a life saver, as my cholesterol was nearly 300! (It's now about 130 thanks to Simvastatin.) I just go for a 30 minute walk 4-5 times a week for exercise...nothing too radical!
A beautiful [Orthodox] Easter morning, just took a good 90-minute walk, and as a result: 226.0
Inconceivable!
Quote from: karlhenning on April 15, 2012, 08:11:54 AM
A beautiful [Orthodox] Easter morning, just took a good 90-minute walk, and as a result: 226.0
Inconceivable!
Dieting and eating healthy is great, but without the exercise....well,....it's like Eroica without the horns!
Great job, Karl!
228.0
Quote from: karlhenning on April 15, 2012, 08:11:54 AM
A beautiful [Orthodox] Easter morning, just took a good 90-minute walk, and as a result: 226.0
Inconceivable!
Orthodox!?
Christos anesti!
I don't know why I'm still so happy to meet Orthodox people in random places online. This is like the fifth time it's happened, but I still get a kick out of it.
Quote from: coffee on April 03, 2012, 07:55:26 PM
Thanks man.
My wife tells me that our scale's battery is dead.
Probably shows you all I need to know about me - didn't know where the scale was, didn't know the battery was dead...
Quote from: karlhenning on April 04, 2012, 01:39:52 AM
But I know there's a scale, somewhere. And I've heard of batteries . . . .
Ok, really, there will be batteries in my scale tonight.
Quote from: coffee on April 18, 2012, 10:22:26 PM
Orthodox!?
Christos anesti!
I don't know why I'm still so happy to meet Orthodox people in random places online. This is like the fifth time it's happened, but I still get a kick out of it.
Alithos anesti!
This morning: 225.8 (!!!)
Quote from: karlhenning on April 19, 2012, 03:54:29 AM
Alithos anesti!
This morning: 225.8 (!!!)
That is AWESOME, Karl! Keep it going and keep the walks on tap. :)
Congrats Karl keep it up! :)
Thanks, lads! Took another walk after I got home from the office yesterday.
This morning: 227.8
The 2 abides!
2.5 lbs down from two days ago! Dave's app (rec'd on fb) rocks you like a hurricane! ;D It totally works. Soon I expect to finally go back down past the minimum I had achieved a few weeks ago.
Quote from: DavidW on April 20, 2012, 05:03:08 AM
2.5 lbs down from two days ago! Dave's app (rec'd on fb) rocks you like a hurricane! ;D It totally works. Soon I expect to finally go back down past the minimum I had achieved a few weeks ago.
w00t
Glad it's working for you.
+ 1
Quote from: DavidW on April 20, 2012, 05:03:08 AM
2.5 lbs down from two days ago! Dave's app (rec'd on fb) rocks you like a hurricane! ;D It totally works. Soon I expect to finally go back down past the minimum I had achieved a few weeks ago.
Let me know when you are due some music. Down half a pound this week. That makes an even 25.
232.2 : (
But, I did get a 50-minute walk in, this morning.
Got some good practicing in (had to, of course, I've a recital this Friday evening), and then went for a good 40-minute walk. Result: 230.6
It's tough winning back that 2 in the tens column! But I'll nail it!
Congrats Karl. :)
Thanks, Davey! The scales this morning have me smiling: 230.0
Ok, here we go:
12/4/26: 106 kg
I'll aim for 75 kg...
Power to you!
This morning: 229.8
105 kg
I was down to 103, but I'm back to 105 now....
Aye, there be fluctuation.
This morning: 229.2lb
Nice work everyone!
I haven't been working out much for most of the last two months, but I've been at least eating sensibly.
My last weigh-in was 223 at the end of February. Got on the scale tonight just on a whim and saw: 218.5.
:D
It's inspired me to get back on the elliptical - with the company of Rachmaninov's Third Piano Concerto, performed by Abbey Simon and Leonard Slatkin.
Back to 103.
Down to 202. Quite happy with this.
228.4 this morn.
201 (That is 32 down in dog pounds ;)).
Very well done, Bill!
Out of curiosity, are all these measures in pounds?
Certamente! Unless noted otherwise . . . .
Latest number: 216 :)
in the mornings, as of today, I weighed 264. I want to try to get down to 242ish (Hopefully lower, but that is my base goal) by September 1st.
At my worst, I was near or maybe slightly above 300 lbs. Last March, I did not weigh that much lighter at 286. In March of 2011, I started going to a personal trainer, and by early August of 2011, I lost 20ish pounds to get down to my current weight. I gained some weight this past semester due to me being stressed about the academics. But now, I need to focus on my health and try to lose weight.
200.5
Now about 25 from my goal weight.
Outstanding, Bill!
Interesting article about the Skinnerian basis of modern weight-loss and other behavioural modification programs - many of which are now iPhone apps!
The Perfected Self (http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/06/the-perfected-self/8970/?single_page=true)
Quote from: Bogey on May 13, 2012, 06:26:00 PM
201 (That is 32 down in dog pounds ;)).
;D
215.2, halfway to my goal of 190. Had climbed back to a blubbery 240 verging on obesity per NIH standards (standards more than a little screwy, admittedly, based on a 19th Century ideal rather than rational research).
Holding fairly steady, alas! Scales read 234.8 this morning
197.5 Down from 233 in mid January. I am averaging 1.8 per week on the Weight Watchers program and have had only one week where I gained. Sometimes I lose half a pound in a week, other, 3 pounds. Just depends on the week. My goal was to be under 200 before the last day of teaching for the start of summer. Now to 175!
Conquer, Bill!
After a very unhealthy vacation, I'm back at 104 kg.
Quote from: Bogey on June 01, 2012, 03:40:48 PM
197.5 Down from 233 in mid January. I am averaging 1.8 per week on the Weight Watchers program and have had only one week where I gained. Sometimes I lose half a pound in a week, other, 3 pounds. Just depends on the week. My goal was to be under 200 before the last day of teaching for the start of summer. Now to 175!
That's great, Bill ... you're inspiring!
Per my weekly weigh-in today, 214.2 (pounds).
BTW, my program is to eat a little healthier (no sugars or other simple carbs and small portions of complex carbs), to eat a little less (but not so much that I feel deprived), and to exercise a little more (and I do mean
little!). Crediting Skinner for that seems like quite a stretch.
That is impressive Bill! Congrats! :)
Thanks folks! I will not say that some days I do not feel deprived of food. And there are those days that I cannot get on the exercise bike until 9:30 at night with a 4:15 wake up. However, I am finding that taking an exercise break once a week is not wrecking what I am trying to accomplish. In fact, it probably is beneficial even though I obsess about missing my workout....not to the point of it ruining my day, but enough that I know I just need to chill out and enjoy the down time.
The one thing that is new is that I am beginning to look into more spices and herbs for my food. When I limit a cooked breakfast to egg whites, it is fun to experiment with flavors. Adding hot sauce of late, but I want to venture out into other flavors. I have also found that after a single serving if I go out and water the flowers for 10 minutes or so I find that I am full and satisfied, where if I linger at the table, I eat more because I still feel that I am hungry. Either way, if this does not become a lifestyle, then it was all an exercise in futility.
Good for you, Bill! Next time we meet, we will probably be the same weight! (I have been at 168 for about six months, down from 175).
Quote from: springrite on June 02, 2012, 08:05:38 AM
Good for you, Bill! Next time we meet, we will probably be the same weight! (I have been at 168 for about six months, down from 175).
Well, I have heard that Mahler is high in fiber, so that may be part of your success! ;D I still believe that South Mexican chicken dish we had will work, Paul. One of the things I enjoyed about the meal was that the portions were just enough so that one could walk after the meal....rare for restaurants these days. In fact, Linda and I always split meals now because of the huge portions. Unless of course Linda and I visit Mike's Pastry in Boston. Then ALL bets are off!
210.0 per last Saturday weigh-in. Down 30 pounds in 12 weeks. The rate of loss has slowed significantly but there's a lot less blubber to lose. Expect to see sub-210 at next weigh-in.
Low carb diet -- no breads grains pastas ice cream fruit milk (sugars of any kind) but all the meat we want plus some cheese and salad and other veggie goodies. Don't feel hungry or deprived.
197.8
Looking to lose at least a dozen more pounds before our trip to Texas this fall. Need to make room for Tex-Mex and BBQ!
Quote from: DavidRoss on August 10, 2012, 02:28:30 PM
197.8
Looking to lose at least a dozen more pounds before our trip to Texas this fall. Need to make room for Tex-Mex and BBQ!
Outstanding, David. Any hints of what you thought made the difference for the last 10 or so, or did you just hold course?
I am back to 208. But, also back to what I need to be doing after a summer of fun eating. :)
Quote from: Bogey on August 10, 2012, 03:48:39 PM
Outstanding, David. Any hints of what you thought made the difference for the last 10 or so, or did you just hold course?
I am back to 208. But, also back to what I need to be doing after a summer of fun eating. :)
Holding course, Bill. I tried adding in some fruit and nuts, but stopped losing, so returned to stricter diet. We'll see what happens after reaching my target (185 -- skinny!). I suspect I will never be able to eat ice cream again. That's okay, I've had more than my share already and it's a cheap price to pay for better health and fitness.
Quote from: DavidRoss on August 10, 2012, 03:55:00 PM
Holding course, Bill. I tried adding in some fruit and nuts, but stopped losing, so returned to stricter diet. We'll see what happens after reaching my target (185 -- skinny!). I suspect I will never be able to eat ice cream again. That's okay, I've had more than my share already and it's a cheap price to pay for better health and fitness.
Interesting. I started adding more fruits and the weight stopped coming off....I was having as many as twelve servings. Ice cream is my "heel" as well. Love it! I need to stick with the fake stuff, which needs to me in moderation as well. See you at 185 my friend!
Ooo... I've slipped a bit.
Have to lose 17 pounds.
Down to 215 today. 15 to go.
I almost went to DQ but stopped myself. Thank you, shed powers...
Good for you, laddie!
:)
I'll think of your example, while biking to the museum this afternoon!
Quote from: karlhenning on August 17, 2012, 11:09:46 AM
I'll think of your example, while biking to the museum this afternoon!
Biking is supposed to be better than walking for burning calories, says my wife.
Roz knowz!
Quote from: MN Dave on August 17, 2012, 10:33:55 AM
Down to 215 today. 15 to go.
I almost went to DQ but stopped myself. Thank you, shed powers...
Shedding in lthe shed?
Down to 196.8 -- progress is slowing. (Strawberries! Yum!) Must break 190 to enjoy Tex-Mex guilt-free!
208 to 214, but back down to 209. Being back to work is helping. I NEED routine in my life.
Quote from: Bogey on August 26, 2012, 03:30:01 PM
208 to 214, but back down to 209. Being back to work is helping. I NEED routine in my life.
Yay!
I've at last got a new scale (and of course now understand the utter avoirduperfidy of the old scales). Went for a 40-min walk, weighed in afterwards at 243.0
If my "target weight" according to The Chart is 185lb, I am jiggered how I am to lose 60lb. Truly I am.
Mind you, I completely concede that I can stand to lose some weight. Find it hard to believe that I am genuinely, fully 60lb overweight.
Quote from: karlhenning on August 26, 2012, 04:49:39 PM
Mind you, I completely concede that I can stand to lose some weight. Find it hard to believe that I am genuinely, fully 60lb overweight.
That's always a surprise. The number is almost a hurdle - like, "goodness, that's a lot," and then you start working to lose the weight, and put the number out of your mind entirely, and strange things happen.
I'm going to insert a relevant instant-message chat between me and my "diet buddy" Michelle [with added comment in brackets]:
me: plus, if i hit 134, that would be exactly 50 lbs lost
Michelle: holy crap.
me: yeah. right?? i'm at 38 [lbs lost; now I'm at 41]
Michelle: that is...a lot. if i had lost 38 pounds from my heaviest i'd be at my lightest weight.
me: well, dear, i was Actually overweight. 184 is a BMI of 28.
Michelle: yeah, i know.... but it's crazy to think there really was that much to lose?
me: yeah it is crazy. i agree. i don't feel like i just lost 40 lbs.
Michelle: luckily it never really impaired your ability to function...
Moral: even now that I've lost 40 pounds, I still can't quite believe I had 40 pounds to lose. Heck,
she can't believe it and she had to hug me back when I was bigger. I certainly don't feel like someone who just dropped 40. And when I was 184, I did not plan to lose 40, either (only 25 or so). However much you manage to lose, you'll still find one or two pounds more, until you finally think, "wow, I can't believe I had that much to give!" ...just like me. :)
Speaking of which
Quote from: Brian on February 10, 2012, 03:21:07 PM
January 2010: 184
6 November, 2010: 158.5
Thanksgiving 2011: 165
10 February 2012: 156
24 August 2012: 143.5
I weigh less now than I did when I was 14 years old. But being only 5'8", that's cuz I was a pudgy kid. I think I still have 5 or so pounds of flab to give, and then it'll time to start stocking up on muscle instead.
Thanks for the word, Brian.
Weekly weigh-in this am: 195
After steadily losing 1.5 to 2 pounds per week for months, I've been stuck in the mid-190s for 7 weeks. Partly, no doubt, due to adding more carbs into the diet, snacking on nuts and berries and plain unsweetened yogurt. But mostly because that seems to be it for fat loss. Love handles are gone and there's scarcely any fat left on my tummy.
That's all good, but after months of effortless weight loss, I'm disappointed not to have reached 190. Doubt I can get there without starving myself or vigorous aerobic exercise, i.e. running. But the reason I set 190 as a goal is because I thought I could start running again safely (for my knees) if I reached that weight.
Time to strap on the old running shoes, I guess, and load up my Sansa Clip with some tunes!
Edit: Wow -- after exercising and showering, 192.4 lbs!
I haven't been dieting as much as eating too much, but I walk to and back from work everyday, walk to the movie theater, the library etc
I only drive when I go grocery shopping or out of town. So I've kept my weight, I haven't gained anything since I stopped Weight Watchers.
This morning: 191.2 pounds. It will be a challenge to keep from gaining during our upcoming trip to Texas. Last year I gained 5 pounds in one week, mostly due to Tex-Mex. It's hard to resist some of the best food on the planet!
Outstanding, Dave!
Quote from: DavidRoss on October 24, 2012, 07:04:07 AM
This morning: 191.2 pounds. It will be a challenge to keep from gaining during our upcoming trip to Texas. Last year I gained 5 pounds in one week, mostly due to Tex-Mex. It's hard to resist some of the best food on the planet!
Simple. Don't. Enjoy the food there and then work it off when you get back. Seriously.
Snap!
Quote from: DavidRoss on October 24, 2012, 07:04:07 AM
This morning: 191.2 pounds. It will be a challenge to keep from gaining during our upcoming trip to Texas. Last year I gained 5 pounds in one week, mostly due to Tex-Mex. It's hard to resist some of the best food on the planet!
Perhaps we should take this to another thread where it's less blasphemous, but where exactly are you going? I'll give you a couple tips on where to eat ;)
EDIT: Oh yeah, and I've hit 140. Time to start building muscle instead of losing fat. The other day, did 100 push-ups in a day for the first time and felt mighty proud... then I walked by a sports team that was training by doing 1000. Won't be able to do that, but there's a long way to go!
Quote from: Brian on October 25, 2012, 05:47:49 AM
The other day, did 100 push-ups in a day for the first time and felt mighty proud... then I walked by a sports team that was training by doing 1000.
:o (That's like back when I was swimming and our coach would have us warm up with a 1500 meter butterfly.)
No blasphemy -- eating right is important for ending fat! ;)
We're just visiting friends and family in Waco, Austin, & Kerrville. The only plans for eating out so far are George's for chicken-fried steak in Waco, barbeque at the Salt Lick in Dripping Springs, wienerschnitzel in Fredericksburg, and I want to get one of the best sandwiches in the world at the general store in Camp Verde. Otherwise it's Tex-Mex at local tacquerias, unless I happen on some place for great chili.
So if you have any suggestions, Brian, I'm all ears (& stomach!).
Quote from: DavidRoss on October 25, 2012, 11:41:48 AM
:o (That's like back when I was swimming and our coach would have us warm up with a 1500 meter butterfly.)
No blasphemy -- eating right is important for ending fat! ;)
We're just visiting friends and family in Waco, Austin, & Kerrville. The only plans for eating out so far are George's for chicken-fried steak in Waco, barbeque at the Salt Lick in Dripping Springs, wienerschnitzel in Fredericksburg, and I want to get one of the best sandwiches in the world at the general store in Camp Verde. Otherwise it's Tex-Mex at local tacquerias, unless I happen on some place for great chili.
So if you have any suggestions, Brian, I'm all ears (& stomach!).
Okay, here goes. You can get wienerschnitzel in Fredericksburg if you want it, but there's no way the experience is gonna top the Hill Top Cafe - it's a ramshackle old one-pump gas station ten miles out of town in the middle of nowhere, that weekend nights features good local Texas blues bands and all times of day and night features food better than it has any right to be. It got bought by a blues singer and his Greek wife way back in the day, and they continue serving up a wacky Cajun-Greek hybrid menu so you can order an olive sampler, heavily peppered oysters, and a big ol hunk of meat too. Another Fredericksburg tip is to stop by Das Peach Haus for a "free meal" by grabbing free samples of all the delicious salsas, marinades, jams and jellies.
Austin - oh man. Austin is foodie paradise. It might be pretty cold so I don't know how much you wanna do food trucks, but there are some great ones, like Mmmmpanadas, anything on S Congress Ave, or Gourdough's (http://www.gourdoughs.com/about-gourdoughs/), an Airstream that'll cook you a donut to order and it'll taste like heaven. I'm sorry, I meant to say "heart attack." If you're planning a last meal, think about Gourdough's!! If you'd prefer "a trashy-looking convenience store with built-in Texas-craft beer bar and Indian curry house," which I'm sure was on your mind, that's Whip-In on I-35. If you'd prefer "upscale Anthony-Bourdain-sanctioned seafood place that dresses its fish with elegant simplicity," that's Perla. If you're after Tex-Mex, boy do you have options: Trudy's for enchiladas and margaritas, the Vegan Taco stand (right next to the Communist bookstore! We went in and had a great laugh), or - oh my god - oh my god - Torchy's, home of the taco love of my life. It's called the Democrat. There's a Republican and an Independent (and a Dirty Sanchez (http://www.torchystacos.com/food/tacos/)), but the Democrat is slow-cooked shredded barbecue beef, a slice of avocado, diced onions, and a hint of lime. Quite frankly my favorite taco ever (http://www.wnff.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=16296.0;attach=7014;image). And Torchy's chips-n-queso is a cut above, too - got a spicy kick! My friend swears by Franklin's BBQ as the best BBQ in the universe, but apparently you have to wait in line upwards of 2 hours to get some!
I've never eaten in Kerrville, and I've only been to the Denny's in Waco, but if you find yourself hungry around Temple, TX on the drive from Waco south, stop at Megg's Cafe for brunch or dinner. The kind of upscale, locally-sourced, beautifully-cooked food you won't expect to find in Temple, TX, at prices you
would expect to find there. My friend and I split half their appetizer menu for $32; here in Dallas a comparable order would have been something like $60.
Uh, so... as you can tell, I like talking about food. ;D ;D ;D
Way cool, Brian! I doubt it'll be hard to talk Annie into trying the Hill Top instead of stopping for veal. And now I have to try Torchy's! ;) The Whip-In sounds like my kind of place, too. And Megg's ought to be right in Anne's wheel house for Sunday brunch!
Thanks for the tips!
Quote from: DavidRoss on October 25, 2012, 12:47:30 PM
Way cool, Brian! I doubt it'll be hard to talk Annie into trying the Hill Top instead of stopping for veal. And now I have to try Torchy's! ;) The Whip-In sounds like my kind of place, too. And Megg's ought to be right in Anne's wheel house for Sunday brunch!
Thanks for the tips!
Do check Yelp for good German food in Fredericksburg, but my dad lived in Germany for a couple years and whenever we tried to grab a jagerschnitzel or some such he always felt lukewarm about it, thus my suggestion. :)
Oh, and about Texas wines... don't expect much :-\
Here's Whip-In's website (http://whipin.com/), which naturally says "Namaste y'all!" My friend and I will be at Megg's tomorrow night, and I really can't wait to try s'more of that menu with her. Oh, a tip, for brunch it's hard to go wrong, and they bake all their own breads and muffins and more, but tell them you came all the way from California and see if you can't convince them to cook up a few brussels sprouts on the side... this is the place where both of my parents enjoyed brussels sprouts for the very first time in either of their lives. :)
Quote from: Brian on October 25, 2012, 12:53:00 PM
Do check Yelp for good German food in Fredericksburg, but my dad lived in Germany for a couple years and whenever we tried to grab a jagerschnitzel or some such he always felt lukewarm about it, thus my suggestion. :)
Oh, and about Texas wines... don't expect much :-\
Here's Whip-In's website (http://whipin.com/), which naturally says "Namaste y'all!" My friend and I will be at Megg's tomorrow night, and I really can't wait to try s'more of that menu with her. Oh, a tip, for brunch it's hard to go wrong, and they bake all their own breads and muffins and more, but tell them you came all the way from California and see if you can't convince them to cook up a few brussels sprouts on the side... this is the place where both of my parents enjoyed brussels sprouts for the very first time in either of their lives. :)
My wife loves brussels sprouts. To me they're like stale gym socks that have been left unwashed in a locker over spring break.
Namaste, y'all.
Quote from: DavidRoss on October 25, 2012, 08:21:02 PM
My wife loves brussels sprouts. To me they're like stale gym socks that have been left unwashed in a locker over spring break.
Namaste, y'all.
No, no, no, no. Her, me, and Thomas Jefferson are all for 'em. Olive oil, fresh garlic, a bit of steaming. One of many garnishes for our nnual Boxing Day dinner.
Quote from: DavidRoss on October 25, 2012, 08:21:02 PM
To me they're like stale gym socks that have been left unwashed in a locker over spring break.
In that case you HAVE to order the Brussels sprouts.
This was the conversation:
Me: And one order brussels sprouts for the table.
Mom: Brussels sprouts?!?!
Dad: Really?
Mom: Brussels sprouts are the worst!
Waitress: Uh, so...
Me: Yes, we're getting them.
(later)
Mom: Oh, these...aren't bad.
Dad: They're edible!
(they proceed to devour the bowl)
Got back home late last night. After eight days in Texas my weekly Sat am weigh-in showed a gain of eight pounds. I'm glad I exercised some restraint, especially after pigging out to the point of extreme discomfort on chicken fried steak, catfish, and peach cobbler on our second night.
I enjoyed brussels sprouts for the first time when roasted with olive oil by my friend Anne at her home. Didn't make it to Meg's, Brian. We did hit Torchy's -- twice! The Democrat was okay, but my favorite was The Brush Fire: Jamaican jerk chicken, grilled jalapeños, mango, sour cream, cilantro, and plenty of Diablo sauce. YUM! ;)
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSBLtBL-26MVT2ILABBVmrDRIN8RUGWFp_6NL4gEvl9zcdDDyWk)
But the best meal on the whole trip -- and possibly the best BBQ I've ever had -- was at Cooper's Old Time Pit Bar-B-Que in Llano: Great brisket, great pork, and great pecan cobbler! 8) :D 8)
Since I am taking a semester off, this is a perfect time to try to lose weight and get in shape. My goal is to lose 20-40 lbs by August and I started around 270lbs. I have been going to the gym since the 14th of January. This morning, my weight was 265lbs.
This morning I weighed in at 247.4 lb. That is pretty much the mean of all my weighings since New Year's, all within about a 7-lb range.
Ack! After making it through the Texas trip last fall and the holiday season still hovering around 195 on Jan 1, I thought I could loosen the restraints and indulge in some bread and bagels and pasta and (YUM!) scones!
Took a gander at the scale this morning and my eyes bugged out: 203.6 lb!
I've seen the error of my weighs.
245.4 lb. this morning.
Yes, at the least there is that! : )
I'm getting to experience the full effect of carbohydrate cravings after months of abstinence. It starts with a nice slice of toasted kalamata ciabatta bread at a friend's. Next thing you know I'm stopping by the bakery for a couple of cranberry bagels in the morning. Before long I've graduated to blueberry and raspberry scones, at least two every morning, and soon I'll be panhandling on the street downtown, eating chunks of baguette from a brown paper bag!
Must ... have ... doughnuts!
I started using this app each day, and saved on paying weight watchers. I not only watch the calories, but like you David, dem carbs! ;D
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/account/logout
Quote from: Bogey on January 24, 2013, 05:11:36 PM
I started using this app each day, and saved on paying weight watchers. I not only watch the calories, but like you David, dem carbs! ;D
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/account/logout
Cheers, Bill, I shall check this out : )This morning: 244.2 lb.
Trending down at all this time of year, I consider success; with the shorter daylight hours, (and the condition of the paths) I don't hustle myself out the door right after work on Tuesday or Thursday for a pondwalk. OTOH, (though the walk is shy of 20 mins) the weather has been clear, so I've made a point of hoofing it from North Station to the office, and vice versa.
Quote from: Bogey on January 24, 2013, 05:11:36 PM
I started using this app each day, and saved on paying weight watchers. I not only watch the calories, but like you David, dem carbs! ;D
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/account/logout
Groovy, just loaded 'er onto the Droid : )
this morning: 264.4 lbs
They've got a stair-climbing program here at work . . . and I did pick up an 'unnecessary' pair of sneakers at Off-Broadway Shoe, just because (a) it's a sneaker I know I like, and (b) they had it discounted further, and $24 was too good a price not to buy a sn. I know I l.
So, with just a little garment organization, I ought to be able to see to my weekly exercise with good diligence. : )
http://giving.brighamandwomens.org/climbcorps_getclimbing
This morning: 243.0 lb., which marks both the lowest weight I've logged so far this year, and the first week in which I've logged weight below 245 lb. four of the seven days.
Might as well check-in here. 0:)
I have started at 111 kilos on Christmas week, down to 106.9 kilos today. That's 244.7 down to 235.6 in your money in one month. Target is to lose another stone to get under the 100 kilos / 220 pounds.
Down to 263.4lbs!
Quote from: PaulR on January 26, 2013, 05:36:50 AM
Down to 263.4lbs!
Keep at it!
This morning: 243.2 lb. Yesterday, with choir rehearsal and MFA shop duty, was not conducive to carving exercise time. Yet this is but a marginal increase on yesterday's weighing-in, so thanks again to Bill for the My Fitness Plan tool, which I am finding most handy.
Just back from a 75-min walk and: 242.0 lb. Zowie!
Quote from: karlhenning on January 27, 2013, 06:56:13 AM
Just back from a 75-min walk and: 242.0 lb. Zowie!
Way to go, dude!
My friends provided cornbread to accompany the chili for dinner last night. I was bad (diet-wise) and ate some. I was good (manners-wise) and ate some. Don't think I'll visit the scales again for several days....
Thanks, Dave!
This morning: 243.4 lb.
Official Monday weigh in, holding steady at 263.2lbs. 4lbs lighter than last week.
Excellent, Paul! Keep at it!
Quote from: DavidRoss on January 24, 2013, 07:13:31 AM
Took a gander at the scale this morning and my eyes bugged out: 203.6 lb!
Quote from: DavidRoss on January 27, 2013, 07:25:32 AM
... cornbread ... ate some .... Don't think I'll visit the scales again for several days....
Shows how little I know! ;D My lovely, charming, and talented wife nagged me into hopping onto the bathroom scale the very next morning: 202.8
A pleasant surprise.
The key for me since last April has been virtually eliminating high glycemic index carbohydrates from my diet. That let me lose 45 pounds effortlessly over six months, from 240 pounds to 195. Adding a few simple carbs back in let me maintain my weight at around 195 for three months, despite a food-happy vacation and the winter solstice holiday season.
Then, just by indulging in one or two bakery items (scones, bagels, muffins) nearly every day for the next three weeks, I gained about nine pounds.
I wonder how long it will take to lose those nine pounds again...? More than three weeks, I'll bet!
Huzzah for pleasant surprise!
Quote from: karlhenning on January 28, 2013, 04:02:35 AM
Excellent, Paul! Keep at it!
Trying my best! I'm amazed and surprised I have kept my motivation to go to the gym every day except Sunday.
G'day, all!
This morning: 243.2 lb. Actually a bit carb-heavier yesterday than I probably ought, so I am relieved at the scales's reading.
down to 262.8 8)
G'day, all!
This morning: 242.6 lb. Repeating thanks to Bill, that myfitnessplan.com is a grand tool.
Quote from: karlhenning on January 30, 2013, 01:29:42 AM
G'day, all!
This morning: 242.6 lb. Repeating thanks to Bill, that myfitnessplan.com is a grand tool.
Ah, cool, Karl. Continued success!
Thanks, Bill!
This morning: 243.2 lb. More work cut out for me : )
My day-to-day fluctuations are insignificant; what counts is the long haul.
Over the course of months, with weekly weigh-ins, I sometimes have one or two disappointing weeks (even three). If I don't let those trivial fluctuations discourage me but stick to my healthy eating plan, I resume heading in the desired direction.
Gained a few pounds back :( 264lbs
Quote from: PaulR on February 01, 2013, 05:19:20 AM
Gained a few pounds back :( 264lbs
Quote from: DavidRoss on February 01, 2013, 05:08:26 AM
My day-to-day fluctuations are insignificant; what counts is the long haul.
Over the course of months, with weekly weigh-ins, I sometimes have one or two disappointing weeks (even three). If I don't let those trivial fluctuations discourage me but stick to my healthy eating plan, I resume heading in the desired direction.
Indeed, Dave!
Quote from: DavidRoss on February 01, 2013, 05:08:26 AM
My day-to-day fluctuations are insignificant; what counts is the long haul.
Over the course of months, with weekly weigh-ins, I sometimes have one or two disappointing weeks (even three). If I don't let those trivial fluctuations discourage me but stick to my healthy eating plan, I resume heading in the desired direction.
AND, you can also add into the fact that even if you have some bad weeks, what would they look like if you had not been watching what you eat.
Quote from: Bogey on February 01, 2013, 03:44:43 PM
AND, you can also add into the fact that even if you have some bad weeks, what would they look like if you had not been watching what you eat.
;D Just give me a couple of apple fritters for a midmorning snack and a pint of Cherry Garcia at night and I'll bet I can consistently pack on at least five pounds per week!
Hah!
Good morning, gents!
I had a good exercise day Thursday, but it was (just borderline) baddish, w/r/t calorie consumption. Yesterday was skimpy, exercise-wise, but my food intake was considerably below my caloric allowance. This morning, I weighed in at 240.6, which is about 5lb. down from the start of the year. Huzzah!
Down to a better 263 this morning!
I spiked back up to 222....two weeks of regular exercise and 1800 cal/day diet (with a bit a of focus on carb cutting) and I am down to 215 today.
242.0 this morning.
Super Bowl Sunday, America's biggest national religious celebration. I'll watch because I've seen all of Stanford's San Francisco's previous Super Bowls and expect them to make it 6 for 6 today.
However ... we're having some HD-less friends over who want to watch on a big screen and my wife thinks that good hosts provide plenty of food, so I expect to bust a gut this afternoon. Guess I'll get back on the diet wagon tomorrow. ;) :laugh:
Hmmm ... we seem to have a new smiley assortment. :o :-\
Quote from: DavidRoss on February 03, 2013, 08:22:30 AM
Super Bowl Sunday, America's biggest national religious celebration. I'll watch because I've seen all of Stanford's San Francisco's previous Super Bowls and expect them to make it 6 for 6 today.
However ... we're having some HD-less friends over who want to watch on a big screen and my wife thinks that good hosts provide plenty of food, so I expect to bust a gut this afternoon. Guess I'll get back on the diet wagon tomorrow. ;) :laugh:
Hmmm ... we seem to have a new smiley assortment. :o :-\
:D
Remember, our goal is to not get type 2 diabetes (or curtail it) and put our socks on and not needing to catch our breath. Let the youngins' work on taking their shirts off in the summer, so enjoy the treats and conversation, my friend. :)
I saw Chris Christie eating a donut on Letterman, history in the making. (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/Smileys/classic/grin.gif)
This morning: 242.0
down to 262 lbs. Can't wait to be down in the 250s
Quote from: Bogey on February 03, 2013, 09:11:11 AM
Remember, our goal is to not get type 2 diabetes (or curtail it) and put our socks on and not needing to catch our breath. Let the youngins' work on taking their shirts off in the summer, so enjoy the treats and conversation, my friend. :)
I'm all for putting my socks on without huffing and puffing and busting a gut, Bill. But I'm also all for being sixty and sexy!
This morning: 241.4
Woo-hoo!
Stuck at 262.2 lbs. Still, 5 lbs lighter than when I started keeping track 8)
Keep at it, Paul, don't let these apparent "landings" faze you.
Anyway, I am so pleased at even this marginal improvement in January/February, I am jazzed at the thought of progress to be made when the weather is clement!
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Quote from: Papy Oli on January 26, 2013, 04:25:02 AM
Might as well check-in here. 0:)
I have started at 111 kilos on Christmas week, down to 106.9 kilos today. That's 244.7 down to 235.6 in your money in one month. Target is to lose another stone to get under the 100 kilos / 220 pounds.
106.1 this morning (233.9). Back on good track after a slight increase last week-end :)
With the help of myfitnesspal, down to 260.6! About 7 lbs lighter than when I started.
Excellent, Paul!
still at 260.2, but not bad for a week with the parents visiting and going out to dinner 3 nights in a row
Quote from: PaulR on February 25, 2013, 05:29:10 AM
still at 260.2, but not bad for a week with the parents visiting and going out to dinner 3 nights in a row
Quote from: huntsman on February 25, 2013, 05:30:56 AM
. . . Hey, what about a few more report-backs? 8)
Hear, hear! I'm in a like boat: remaining steady, but pleased at that steadiness : )
Quote from: PaulR on February 18, 2013, 04:20:33 AM
With the help of myfitnesspal, down to 260.6! About 7 lbs lighter than when I started.
I recommend that website to everybody. I used it to log a lot of stuff when I was actively trying to lose weight. Now that I'm at my goal of 140, I've stopped using MFP, but that's not a good idea, it's my mistake. The food diary component tells you a lot about what you're doing right and wrong - after all, we are what we eat. And it's pretty eye-opening to see what passes for "normal" in our diet. I had a slice of chocolate cake for my birthday last year and MFP informed me that I had just consumed 2400 calories. For dessert.
My best friend is a regular on the discussion boards there.
It's been a long time since I posted in this thread. After gained back weight and weighing over 200 lbs., I am now at 168.0 lbs. It started in late summer when I lost my appetite due to stress and ate very little. But after I regained my appetite, I changed what I was eating and kept losing weight. I'm not following a particular diet or counting calories, I've just cut out most junk food and fast food. On average, I'm losing 1.0-1.5 pounds per week. ;D
Quote from: Keemun on February 25, 2013, 09:04:03 AM
. . . I've just cut out most junk food and fast food.
That alone is a victory! : )
Quote from: Brian on February 25, 2013, 07:47:42 AM
I recommend that website to everybody. I used it to log a lot of stuff when I was actively trying to lose weight. Now that I'm at my goal of 140, I've stopped using MFP, but that's not a good idea, it's my mistake. The food diary component tells you a lot about what you're doing right and wrong - after all, we are what we eat. And it's pretty eye-opening to see what passes for "normal" in our diet. I had a slice of chocolate cake for my birthday last year and MFP informed me that I had just consumed 2400 calories. For dessert.
My best friend is a regular on the discussion boards there.
It was your birthday. I think you were entitled to one day of bad eating :)
One thing I don't like about trying to lose weight is that I have to be nearly perfect everyday, and MFP drives that in as well. I have been good in eating, coming well under the calorie goal, but some days I just want something that is not considered "healthy". Which will be put to the test next week, as next Thursday is my birthday.
Quote from: karlhenning on February 25, 2013, 09:25:11 AM
That alone is a victory! : )
I know it's a healthier lifestyle, but I miss (some) fast food. (As strange as it sounds)
Baby steps . . . awful weather in Boston to-day, so I took advantage of our "free gym" by climbing the stairs. This was only my third time at it, and so this is a red letter week, as I've climbed twice this week already! ; ) I am still performing quite modestly, only climbing 14 floors each time. I may aim for 16 floors next week . . . .
Monday was my second climb, after an unnecessarily long interval (well, partly created by a bout of flu). But here's the thing:
After weeks of my weigh-ins apparently stuck at about 243-244 . . . Tuesday morning (i.e., day after the climb) I weighed in at 242.8. So I knew I wanted to do this more frequently.
This morning: 241.6 (yes, I did climb again yesterday : )
is it a stair climber?
I'm "stuck" at 260, but my scale wants to say 259...
An actual stairwell : )
Quote from: karlhenning on March 01, 2013, 11:17:34 AM
An actual stairwell : )
Staircases are GREAT. General pointer, try to find one at home/work that either nobody will notice you spending 15 minutes going up and down nonstop, or is busy enough nobody will care.
I make it a personal rule to always take stairs two at a time, now that I'm relatively slim but need to strengthen up.
Monday check in--and to my surprise--257.0lbs!
This exercise thing is really working!
This morning: 241.0, much better than I expected for a Monday!Quote from: PaulR on March 04, 2013, 04:43:27 AM
Monday check in--and to my surprise--257.0lbs!
This exercise thing is really working!
Excellent, and it sure does : )
I love pleasant surprises!
Quote from: PaulR on March 04, 2013, 04:43:27 AM
Monday check in--and to my surprise--257.0lbs!
This exercise thing is really working!
Cool, Paul!
I took two days off from exercising due to a stomach virus....which probably helped me lose weight. ;)
Quote from: Brian on March 01, 2013, 11:39:53 AM
Staircases are GREAT. General pointer, try to find one at home/work that either nobody will notice you spending 15 minutes going up and down nonstop, or is busy enough nobody will care.
This is a staircase open for exercise purposes each day, where I work.
Quote from: karlhenning on March 04, 2013, 05:14:30 AM
This morning: 241.0, much better than I expected for a Monday!
This morning: 241.0 again (still). I had better do some more climbing to-day : )
gained 2 pounds from last nights "festivities"....but totally worth it.
This morning: 240.4, a triumph!
This morning: 238.0
Inconceivable!
Damn birthday! back up to 260 :(
Well, down 8 lbs from mid January or so. Still using My Fitness Pal, but not a slave to it. In short, beginning to gain a nice balance between weight loss, exercise, and still enjoying food.
Quote from: PaulR on March 08, 2013, 05:03:51 AM
Damn birthday! back up to 260 :(
Mine is on the 29th, Paul. Could get ugly! ;D
239.2
Yesterday was International Women's Day, so there was cake, of course. Don't know if I can keep the 3 in that tens place for to-morrow morning. But I am psyched. Definitely doing some more climbing next week.
Quote from: karlhenning on March 09, 2013, 07:36:08 AM
239.2
Yesterday was International Women's Day, so there was cake, of course. Don't know if I can keep the 3 in that tens place for to-morrow morning. But I am psyched. Definitely doing some more climbing next week.
Nice.
240.8
Will see if I cannot get in a good walk to-day.
Little bit down to 105.4 kg / 232.3 yesterday (-12.4 pounds so far) after 3 weeks without any change around 106kg.
Quote from: karlhenning on March 10, 2013, 04:06:03 AM
240.8
Will see if I cannot get in a good walk to-day.
And I did . . . so: This morning, 240.1
To-day, I shall do some climbing, and will try, too, to get out for a walk first thing I return home. Keen to regain the 3 in the tens column!
I lost a grand total of .4 pounds! 256.6 lbs Monday check in. Not bad for a birthday week.
Net loss on birthday week is a win!
Climbed 18 floors at lunch. Feelin' good!
Quote from: karlhenning on March 11, 2013, 09:13:08 AM
Climbed 18 floors at lunch. Feelin' good!
And this morning: 238.6!
This week will be an effort to keep that 3! Playing the concert to-day will help . . . .
Quote from: karlhenning on March 12, 2013, 04:53:29 AM
And this morning: 238.6!
This week will be an effort to keep that 3! Playing the concert to-day will help . . . .
Turn the lights up! Sweat out the weight!
Is it a concert of your own works?
A lunchtime concert, so designedly brief; and yes, the inaugural performance of the new unaccompanied clarinet piece, Thoreau in Concord Jail.
Yow! Just back from a 50-minute walk and 237.2. Hold onto the trend!
one of the few things that a down trend is a good thing :)
I'm hoping that next Monday, I'll weigh 254/3. I think that would mean I will never see the 6 in the the ten column in the daily fluctuations.
Probably should consider playing the bass again. Lugging that around is good exercise :P
Well, I mostly rested after the concert. Oh, and we did some grocery shopping at the Russian store, so I ate a few richer things than I probably ought to have.
This morning: 239.8, which is barely keeping that 3! Some dietary austerity and stair-climbing is indicated to-day!
This morning: 240.4, so I guess I was not quite so on the program yesterday as somehow I had thought.
Trying harder to-day.
Quote from: Papy Oli on March 10, 2013, 04:21:28 AM
Little bit down to 105.4 kg / 232.3 yesterday (-12.4 pounds so far) after 3 weeks without any change around 106kg.
104.3 kg / 229.9 this morning.
One stone and a bit lost in slightly less than 3 months ! quite chuffed by the steady progress !! ;D
Excellent!
255.8 lbs Monday check in. Not quite the 2-3 lbs I was looking for....but it's still a pound
This morning: 239.8 . . . not giving up the battle!
Quote from: karlhenning on March 18, 2013, 05:39:08 AM
This morning: 239.8 . . . not giving up the battle!
Considering that we had a cake for St Patrick's Day, and that (exceedingly concentrated upon composition) I had an entirely sedentary weekend, I count myself lucky to see that 3 there!
Just back from climbing 23 flights of stairs.
Quote from: karlhenning on March 18, 2013, 08:57:35 AM
Considering that we had a cake for St Patrick's Day, and that (exceedingly concentrated upon composition) I had an entirely sedentary weekend, I count myself lucky to see that 3 there!
Just back from climbing 23 flights of stairs.
Luck of the Irish?
After weight machines, and 45 minutes worth of the elliptical (688 calories burnt!)....257.8. I hate Mondays/Wednesdays/Fridays....
Or, I burn more calories by composing than I imagined possible ; )
Courage!
Ultimate exercise...stairs+composing?
Well, the stairs and better dietary discipline (nor did I suffer at all yesterday) yielded results. This morning: 237.2, a return to the low point briefly glanced upon earlier.
And it looks like a little more snow-removal exertion is in my immediate future . . . .
Woke up to 254.6 lbs 8)
Hey, that's a bit of all right!
Climbed 23 floors again to-day.
.4lbs down! 254.2 lbs this morning.
This morning 239.8, something of a holding pattern. Should probably go for a walk this evening.
I missed the walk (went to see an IMAX movie with the family, a very nice outing); and generally I felt that I was "off the wagon," dietarily. So this morning's 239.8 comes as something of a pleasant surprise. A new day!
This morning: 237.6.
A couple of errands this morning, but either in their midst, or directly I come back from the Museum, a walk is in order.
Just back from a hour's walk, and: 236.8.
A new low. I like this!
Another, shorter walk yestereve, and this morning: 236.8.
Monday check in: 253.4 lbs. 2.4 lbs down from Monday. 14 lbs since I started.
Good job!
This morning: 238.0
216.5 trying to reach 200. It's only a matter of time.
Quote from: Beorn on March 27, 2013, 03:31:31 PM
216.5 trying to reach 200. It's only a matter of time.
Excellent!
I'm having something of a Red Queen experience this week . . . this morning: 239.0QuoteNow, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place.
Quote from: karlhenning on March 28, 2013, 04:10:40 AM
Excellent!
Thank you. 216.0 today. My 1,800 calorie diet and walking are slowly doing the trick.
Karl, reclaim that 236. Climb man, climb! :)
Quote from: Bogey on March 28, 2013, 04:46:16 AM
Karl, reclaim that 236. Climb man, climb! :)
Thanks, Bill! I reckon I got complacent, and dropped off use of the dietary function of myfitnesspal. I am back on due diligence!
I have climbed three days this week, and have brought gear to climb again at lunch-time to-day.
Quote from: karlhenning on March 28, 2013, 04:48:03 AM
Thanks, Bill! I reckon I got complacent, and dropped off us use of the dietary function of myfitnesspal. I am back on due diligence!
I have climbed three days this week, and have brought gear to climb again at lunch-time to-day.
and of course, good morning.
Bien sûr, mon ami!
Still at 253.8. But that's ok! I usually only see weight change on Mondays.
Quote from: karlhenning on March 28, 2013, 04:10:40 AM
I'm having something of a Red Queen experience this week . . . this morning: 239.0
Quote from: Bogey on March 28, 2013, 04:46:16 AM
Karl, reclaim that 236. Climb man, climb! :)
Thanks again for the word, Bill! This morning: 237.6
No hardship; just as simple as availing myself of myfitnesspal.
215.5 :)
plat e a u ... . .
This morning: 235.4
Good job. :)
Me: 214
Quote from: Papy Oli on March 16, 2013, 02:36:55 AM
104.3 kg / 229.9 this morning.
103 kg / 227 pounds yesterday. 1st target is looming :)
Good morning, lads!
Woke up to 251.8 lbs
This morning: 236.6
Considering how Easter is not a day for caloric skimping, I have no complaint : )
Quote from: karlhenning on April 01, 2013, 04:22:06 AM
This morning: 236.6
Considering how Easter is not a day for caloric skimping, I have no complaint : )
Every day is a day for caloric skimping. ;D
That's the spirit!
Quote from: Beorn on April 01, 2013, 07:59:23 AM
Every day is a day for caloric skimping. ;D
That's why you do cardio. Can eat more and still get benefits ;D
Climbed 26 floors at lunch.
It's very odd for me to have a slightly difficult time losing weight. More like completely bizarre.
Start: 165 lbs
Goal: 150 lbs
Current: 158 lbs
Goal should have happened a month ago. Doesn't matter much, though. Feels so much better to have those 7 lbs off, and for me it's very easy to lose fat without losing muscle. After this goal, getting up to 170 pounds, all muscle, would be nice. I don't know how people can stand all the extra fat. Ugh. Just a little is terrible feeling.
This morning: 237.4, oof
2 1 5 . 5
You da man!
I've just finished reading Holden's post on page one and rather than read the next 71 fatty pages, I'll commit to change right here! ;D
I weigh 113.6kg and my target weight by 1 July is 102kg. Very attainable, I think, but I will push past that if I can, as my final target weight is 93kg.
My plan is to eat correctly, but include supplements like CLA capsules, Whey Protein shakes and a fat burner capsule, and to exercise (lightly at first) five days a week.
I doubt I will ever consume the suggested 6l of water per day, but I will rather aim at the clear urine test and work from there.
Good luck everyone! ;)
And good luck to you!
Good luck, huntsman.
My plan goes:
Eat less
Move more
Shake the occasional tailfeather.
Tailfeathers all queued for a light shaking tomorrow after an even lighter breakfast... 0:)
Quote from: karlhenning on April 03, 2013, 05:33:09 AM
Shake the occasional tailfeather.
Wow.
What an expression...
I think this is what my friends do at the club. They allow themselves to shake the occasional tailfeather.
Must report that I finally managed to get my tail feathers in gear and they received the first of many shakings at the local gym. ;D
213.5 or the scale lies.
212.5 :)
Quote from: Papy Oli on March 31, 2013, 04:58:39 AM
103 kg / 227 pounds yesterday. 1st target is looming :)
103.5 yesterday... not that bad with Easter out of the way :)
This morning: 236.2
Waiting for the weather to warm up just a bit for my walk : )
Monday check-in: 248.0 lbs :)
Go!
Quote from: Beorn on April 03, 2013, 05:32:14 AM
Good luck, huntsman.
My plan goes:
Eat less
Move more
Thanks Beorn - that's definitely the best option. :)
Well, a week has passed and so has 2kg of unwanted flab. (Not that the rest of the flab is actually
wanted, but you see what I mean!)
This morning: 236.4
Quote from: huntsman on April 09, 2013, 12:16:26 AM
Thanks Beorn - that's definitely the best option. :)
Well, a week has passed and so has 2kg of unwanted flab. (Not that the rest of the flab is actually wanted, but you see what I mean!)
Obi-Wan has taught you to shake your tailfeather well.
I am aiming for this to be the week I see a 5 in the ones column twice . . . .
Quote from: karlhenning on April 09, 2013, 03:53:33 AM
Obi-Wan has taught you to shake your tailfeather well.
I am aiming for this to be the week I see a 5 in the ones column twice . . . .
Admirable goal. I am aiming to never see a 5 in the tens column again. :P
(Though, if the next three months are like the previous months....I should reach my goal in early July. Though, my parents seem to think 227 would make me look "sickly" due to my body type).
Just did the conversion and in pounds I am 250 with a target of 202 by July 1...
Quote from: PaulR on April 09, 2013, 07:23:25 AM
Admirable goal. I am aiming to never see a 5 in the tens column again. :P
(Though, if the next three months are like the previous months....I should reach my goal in early July. Though, my parents seem to think 227 would make me look "sickly" due to my body type).
6'8" mesomorph?
Quote from: DavidRoss on April 09, 2013, 08:39:42 AM
6'8" mesomorph?
i don't know my body type, but I am 6'3. Granted, I haven't been 227 in a long time, but I cannot imagine it looking "sickly". I would also (at least according to the BMI) still be considered "overweight" at 227, but it would be a weight I would be healthy at.
Though, I cannot say what I would look like at that weight as I still have a way to go to achieve it.
This morning: 235.6
Got a good walk in at lunchtime yesterday; and two brief but lively bicycle rides.
Quote from: PaulR on April 09, 2013, 09:24:51 AM
i don't know my body type
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This morning: 236.4
212
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A good friend tried to kill me yesterday, inviting me to go mountain biking with him.
Now I'm just re-entering the world of those that try to be healthy and a 45 minutes spinning class last week almost led to cardiac arrest, so a ride in the country sounded like a great improvement...
Four hours, two falls and an aching 'nether region' later and I could scarcely walk back to my car! :-[
(Think I'll have a huge pizza to spite him...) ;D
I think I'm going to aim for a six-pack next summer, and 160 pounds. I have somewhat of a plan.
Now (summer): still 5 more pounds to lose to get down to 150. Also, sort of tanning; but not too much. I don't want to die from it.
Fall: Gain 20 pounds- up to 170 pounds.
Spring of next year: lose 10 pounds of fat.
Summer of next year: goal.
It's similar to the seasonal plan that bodybuilders follow. I'm still shocked that after 10 lbs of fat loss, I already look how I thought I'd look (maybe slightly better, even) after 15 lbs of fat loss. Not often do I ever exceed expectations. Most likely, I forget how light that fat is. It is weird how easy it is to gain or lose fat, yet it's pretty hard to gain or lose muscle (at least for me).
I think aiming for a balanced physique is a good idea, because I know some people that have tons of muscle, but are fat, and others that have abs, but are too skinny. It just feels better and looks better to have a balance of both. You can bend over without anything in the way and wear pants with a small waist, but also be able to lift heavy stuff. This is generally good (unless you're a runner or a weightlifter, of course)...
This morning 236.0
And now, just back from climbing 28 flights of stairs.
Quote from: Greg on April 18, 2013, 03:53:16 PM
I think I'm going to aim for a six-pack next summer, and 160 pounds. I have somewhat of a plan.
Now (summer): still 5 more pounds to lose to get down to 150. Also, sort of tanning; but not too much. I don't want to die from it.
Fall: Gain 20 pounds- up to 170 pounds.
Spring of next year: lose 10 pounds of fat.
Summer of next year: goal.
It's similar to the seasonal plan that bodybuilders follow. I'm still shocked that after 10 lbs of fat loss, I already look how I thought I'd look (maybe slightly better, even) after 15 lbs of fat loss. Not often do I ever exceed expectations. Most likely, I forget how light that fat is. It is weird how easy it is to gain or lose fat, yet it's pretty hard to gain or lose muscle (at least for me).
I think aiming for a balanced physique is a good idea, because I know some people that have tons of muscle, but are fat, and others that have abs, but are too skinny. It just feels better and looks better to have a balance of both. You can bend over without anything in the way and wear pants with a small waist, but also be able to lift heavy stuff. This is generally good (unless you're a runner or a weightlifter, of course)...
Maybe you should focus on being healthy, rather than this scheme of gaining, losing, gaining, losing.
Quote from: Parsifal on April 22, 2013, 10:24:54 AM
Maybe you should focus on being healthy, rather than this scheme of gaining, losing, gaining, losing.
Well, he didn't say it, but if the weight he's gaining is muscle, that makes sense. What doesn't make sense is losing 10 pounds of fat after you've gained 20 pounds of muscle. Pretty sure that's not how it works.
This morning, down to 246.6 lbs!
Quote from: Brian on April 22, 2013, 11:10:03 AM
Well, he didn't say it, but if the weight he's gaining is muscle, that makes sense. What doesn't make sense is losing 10 pounds of fat after you've gained 20 pounds of muscle. Pretty sure that's not how it works.
What he is describing sounds like regimes that body builders employ, including dramatic dietary changes and use of supplements, to achieve a certain physical appearance. That has nothing to do with maintaining good health.
Quote from: Parsifal on April 22, 2013, 01:28:02 PM
What he is describing sounds like regimes that body builders employ, including dramatic dietary changes and use of supplements, to achieve a certain physical appearance. That has nothing to do with maintaining good health.
Basically, yes, though I don't go all out like a bodybuilder- not enough time or money for that. Just a decent physique will do.
Woo-hoo! This morning: 235.2
243.4 lbs this week. The scale doesn't lie! (at least when it's a positive number!)
This morning's moment in the holding pattern: 237.2
Gonna climb at lunchtime!
Couldn't climb yesterday; there was an alarm in the building just when I'd suited up for my climb, and the stairs were closed.
Still, got out for a short walk last night.
This morning: 236.8
Shot back up to 222...yikes. Cannot stop doing my homework for a couple weeks.
This morning: 236.6
Dropped to 218. Only 28 to go.....
Excellent, Bill!
This morning (again): 236.6
Pinch me.
This morning: 235.0
Quote from: karlhenning on May 08, 2013, 02:01:02 AM
Pinch me.
This morning: 235.0
On your way to making that tens family change yet again, Karl!
I'm game to try, Bill!
Yesterday I pulled all the right levers. Had two (brief) jaunts on the bicycle, climbed 32 flights of stairs, went for an hour's walk after I got home; and had an unusual degree of dietary control. I shall see if I cannot keep to the true path to-day!
Climbed to the 33rd floor again to-day.
Quote from: karlhenning on May 08, 2013, 04:07:16 AM
I'm game to try, Bill!
Yesterday I pulled all the right levers. Had two (brief) jaunts on the bicycle, climbed 32 flights of stairs, went for an hour's walk after I got home; and had an unusual degree of dietary control. I shall see if I cannot keep to the true path to-day!
Do the ladies join you, or are you solo? I a trying to get Linda to join for any walks.
Finally back on the downwards trend : Lost 4 pounds in the last 2 weeks down to 102.6 kg this morning (18.6 pounds lost to date).
Stepping up the exercise is starting to pay off (now doing 6 to 10 km fast walks 3 to 4 times a week at the moment).
This morning: 235.8
Can I at last earn the 4 in the ones column this week? We shall see . . . .
Quote from: karlhenning on May 08, 2013, 04:07:16 AM
I'm game to try, Bill!
Yesterday I pulled all the right levers. Had two (brief) jaunts on the bicycle, climbed 32 flights of stairs, went for an hour's walk after I got home; and had an unusual degree of dietary control. I shall see if I cannot keep to the true path to-day!
Here's an informative calculation. A flight of stairs is about 4 meters worth of climbing. You report your weight as 214 pounds, which is 950 Newtons in metric units. The amount of energy you expend climbing a flight of stairs is therefore (4 meters)(950 Newtons) = 3800 Joules. If you climb 32 flights, that's about 120,000 Joules. The human body has an efficiency of about 25%, so you expend about 500,000 Joules climbing those stairs. But 1 Calorie is 4,190 Joules. By climbing those stairs you have burned off (500,000 J)/(4190 J/Cal) = 116 Calories. That entitles you to eat
one oreo cookie!
On the other hand, aerobic excercise is good for cardiovascular health.
Quote from: Parsifal on May 13, 2013, 03:39:48 PM
Here's an informative calculation. A flight of stairs is about 4 meters worth of climbing. You report your weight as 214 pounds, which is 950 Newtons in metric units. The amount of energy you expend climbing a flight of stairs is therefore (4 meters)(950 Newtons) = 3800 Joules. If you climb 32 flights, that's about 120,000 Joules. The human body has an efficiency of about 25%, so you expend about 500,000 Joules climbing those stairs. But 1 Calorie is 4,190 Joules. By climbing those stairs you have burned off (500,000 J)/(4190 J/Cal) = 116 Calories. That entitles you to eat one oreo cookie!
On the other hand, aerobic excercise is good for cardiovascular health.
It's all about diet...
Quote from: Parsifal on May 13, 2013, 03:39:48 PM
. . . You report your weight as 214 pounds, which is 950 Newtons in metric units.
Quote from: karlhenning on May 13, 2013, 05:51:42 AM
This morning: 235.8
So my first question is, whence the 214.
And offhand, I should have thought 214 lb is ca. 97 kg in metric measure. I only mean that my wife and mom-in-law, who have used metric all their lives, express their body weight in kg, not Newtons.
Quote from: karlhenning on May 14, 2013, 01:54:12 AM
So my first question is, whence the 214.
And offhand, I should have thought 214 lb is ca. 97 kg in metric measure. I only mean that my wife and mom-in-law, who have used metric all their lives, express their body weight in kg, not Newtons.
But kg and lb are units of mass, not weight (although in colloquial language that's not the case). When calculating the work done against Earth's gravity, you use the weight, not mass (since the gravity field is almost constant in this case). The actual weight (in Newtons) is different depending on the strength of the gravity in your location (Wiki: Apparent gravity on the earth's surface in m/s
2 varies by around 0.6%, from about 9.776 near the equator or at high elevation to 9.832 at the poles.)
Your first question I can't answer, though, Karl.
Thank you, sir.
Quote from: karlhenning on May 14, 2013, 01:54:12 AM
So my first question is, whence the 214.
And offhand, I should have thought 214 lb is ca. 97 kg in metric measure. I only mean that my wife and mom-in-law, who have used metric all their lives, express their body weight in kg, not Newtons.
Sorry, I wasn't careful and skimmed 214 pounds off someone else's posting, I think.
Pounds is technically a measure of force although the mass whose weight is a pound is a de-facto measure of mass. Using the correct 234 pounds, weight is 1040 Newtons (106 kg) and the tally of Calories reaches 127. That's closer to one and a half Oreos! (An Oreo is about 80 calories.)
216.5
Funny how dropping a pound.5 is making me reconsider having popcorn at the Star Trek movie today. :)
Hey, for just back from vacation, not bad at all.
Climbed up to the 33rd floor.
And I'm laying off the Oreo©!
Quote from: karlhenning on May 20, 2013, 11:24:03 AM
Climbed up to the 33rd floor.
That's a lot of floors if you started at the first, or even two or three.
I work on 31 (I know, so you're thinking I just go up two flights . . .)
My routine at present is, I walk down from 31 to the lobby as a warm-up; then up to 33, and then back down to the lobby (not so sprily as at first). [I then take the elevator back up to 31.]
This morning: 235.8
210 here. I've got to get more serious and break the barrier because I still want to reach 200--at least.
Quote from: karlhenning on May 21, 2013, 02:01:37 AM
. . . My routine at present is, I walk down from 31 to the lobby as a warm-up; then up to 33, and then back down to the lobby (not so sprily as at first). [I then take the elevator back up to 31.]
Did it again. (No oops.)
http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,13022.msg418142.html#msg418142
Goodness, coming across this post just depresses me, because from the period of late summer 2010 to summer 2012 I did not stick with any of it and barely exercised. I ballooned to 195 in that period also found out that I'm not 5'9 but 5'7, making me even more unfit given my height (oh how I wish I was at least 6'feet -- so many people tower over me!)
But I exercised pretty consistently from July of 2012 to March of this year, at least three times per week, most of it consisting of the weight routine described in the quote. I did not get buff but the squats (maximum: 225 lbs) made my quads noticeably developed. My body also toned up somewhat, and I went from 195 lbs to 180. According BMI chart, I'm still 30 pounds overweight. I never dieted before and I'm going to try that now and resume 3 timesper week gym trips.
Quote from: huntsman on April 03, 2013, 03:54:56 AM
I weigh 113.6kg and my target weight by 1 July is 102kg. Very attainable, I think, but I will push past that if I can, as my final target weight is 93kg.
Take pity on us poor Americans and please use imperial units.
Quote from: karlhenning on May 21, 2013, 02:01:37 AM
I work on 31 (I know, so you're thinking I just go up two flights . . .)
My routine at present is, I walk down from 31 to the lobby as a warm-up; then up to 33, and then back down to the lobby (not so sprily as at first). [I then take the elevator back up to 31.]
This morning: 235.8
Work on 31? Somehow I got the impression you work in a museum.
31-story museums are the best... you could spends weeks in there. :o
208.5 :)
woke up this morning at 238.6lbs 8)
Go, Paul!
Not strictly the topic (As if anyone from the north would waste something wrapped in pastry . . . .)
http://www.youtube.com/v/JdsfU3eGWE0
This morning: 234.8. Same weight for three days going, now. I may just be breaking through . . . .
goal: 200
today: 206 :)
Quote from: MN Dave on May 30, 2013, 03:46:13 AM
goal: 200
today: 206 :)
Nearing your goal!
This morning, I weighed something like 236.8. I would be lying if I said I thought this was possible in January when I weighed 267 pounds.
Age: 27
Weight goal: 155.
Today: 180.
Plan: Exercise (weight lifting and jogging) and dieting.
I will officially weigh myself on July 4th. I cannot bear doing it everyday.
I will alternate between going to the gym 3 times a week and 4 times a week, and take 2 days consecutive days after 7 trips.
Happy Monday!
This morning: 233.2
At a plateau of sorts.......still losing, but not at a fast rate.
236 lbs
Good job, Paul!
Woke up at 235.6 lbs! Nearing my goal. :D
Monday check in: 234.8 lbs.
The dial has been wobbly, but I think I've restored the right trend. This morning: 234.4
Monday check in: 233.2 lbs
Slowlyy getting there
By a curious coincidence, this morning: 233.2
Good work, Paul!
This morning, again: 233.2
In the 220's by end of July for you Karl and Paul. Go men, go!
I like that challenge!
Quote from: Bogey on June 27, 2013, 04:11:10 AM
In the 220's by end of July for you Karl and Paul. Go men, go!
229 is close for me, so it should be easy :)
205 today
Just now: 230.0
But I am just in from a 95-minute walk, so I am sure the reading is a bit "artificially low" as a result of dehydration.
That said, I am still pleased.
Quote from: karlhenning on June 30, 2013, 07:48:32 AM
Just now: 230.0
But I am just in from a 95-minute walk, so I am sure the reading is a bit "artificially low" as a result of dehydration.
That said, I am still pleased.
Drink some water, Karl and congrats!
Thanks, Bill!
And this morning (progress!): 231.8
Climbed my 32 flights of stairs again to-day. The program only runs until 12 July, then it's closed for the summer . . . probably starts back fresh after Labor Day.
During the summer, I expect I'll make a point of hopping out on the bicycle for a half-hour's spin at lunch time.
This morning: 230.0
208
WTF, dudes? :(
Shake the volatility off, dude! $:)
Quote from: MN Dave on July 02, 2013, 08:18:25 AM
208
WTF, dudes? :(
Put down the ax in your hands. That has got to be it!
Quote from: Bogey on July 02, 2013, 02:25:53 PM
Put down the ax in your hands. That has got to be it!
Are you saying I have a fat ax? :o
He's saying, don't ax the man in the street!
Holy 222, Batman! Totally wrong direction!
My new plan is to stop eating altogether. $:)
Quote from: Bogey on July 05, 2013, 08:29:39 AM
Holy 222, Batman! Totally wrong direction!
Must be in the air: this morning: 233.4
After a scare last week (Partly why I didn't report it.), I can happily say that I am down to 231.8 lbs. 8)
First main target reached this morning - back into double figures at 99.2 Kg from 111kg at Christmas (down 26 pounds from 244.7 to 218.7). Not seen double figures like that on the scale since 14-15 years ago.
The combination of fast walks, crunches/planks exercises and kettlebell circuit is paying off nicely. Really chuffed :)
Monday check in: 230.6 lbs!
Monday check in: 228.8 lbs! Getting close to my goal!
Paul, you're doing great! I'm still hovering at 235.
Excellent job, everyone! Keep up the good work.
Just realized I haven't put a post here since May 2012! The weight then was 216.
To summarize the last year, I went down to 206 last October, but got a bit lazy after that. Not to mention the obligatory Thanksgiving/winter holiday food frenzy and subsequent weight gain.
I next stepped on the scale this past April 8 and was greeted by a reading of 225! So it was back to tracking food on MyFitnessPal and reacquainting myself with the elliptical and lunchtime walks. Having kept it up for most of the last three months, I finally broke under 200 (for the first time in ten years) last Friday, with an official weigh-in of 198!
I've moved my goal weight from 180 to 175; diet-wise I'm trying to eat more protein and fewer carbs, and eliminate almost all processed food. I've quit the diet soda habit as well. I'd like to start strength training eventually, but for now I'm still in weight loss mode.
Outstanding!
Quote from: karlhenning on July 22, 2013, 04:00:06 AM
Paul, you're doing great! I'm still hovering at 235.
Thanks Karl!
Last check-up I had with the doctor (May) and I lost 20 lbs., but I hadn't visited the doctor in two years, so I was quite surprised, and happy, by this discovery and the only thing I can attribute to the weight loss is by simply controlling the amount of food I eat.
After vacation back to 226.
I'm avoiding the scale.
Quote from: karlhenning on July 31, 2013, 03:53:10 AM
I'm avoiding the scale.
Yup, spen some time in the Hollywood area this summer, ate all that was offered (did not want to be rude) and only needed a glass of Paul Masson in one hand and a nice cigar in the other and people would have been wondering if Orson Welles was alive. ;D
However, after a few days of exercise and eating right, back to 218.
Down to 225.2lbs from 267 back in January. When I graduated from Fredonia in 2010, I was 286lbs. A lot different!
Paul, you're doing great!
I went for a walk yesterday, but I am still avoiding the scale . . . .
205
239.6
Oof
Quote from: karlhenning on August 15, 2013, 06:14:49 AM
239.6
Oof
Just right back to it. You know what works now.
238.6
Today: 192 - down one pound in two weeks after losing five pounds in the two weeks before that. Tweaked my lower back doing squats Wednesday night, so I'll have to take it easy on the exercise front for a while.
237.4
Cheers, Bill!
heading in the right direction Karl!
Today's check in: 224.0 lbs
Outstanding, Paul!
I recently measured my waist, hips, and stomach (across the belly button). When I started keeping track, the stomach measurement was 48". When I measured it yesterday, it was 36". Incredible sign.
Bravo!
PaulR and David W have the same avatar. What do I win for spotting that?
:)
A fruit smoothie!
And a membership card to the club ;)
Quote from: PaulR on August 21, 2013, 10:24:52 AM
I recently measured my waist, hips, and stomach (across the belly button). When I started keeping track, the stomach measurement was 48". When I measured it yesterday, it was 36". Incredible sign.
Wow, congratulations! Body measurements are as good an indicator of progress as the scale, if not better. Keep up the good work, Paul!
222.6 lbs this morning!
236.4 this morning. Took advantage of early dismissal from the office to bicycle around Boston a little more.
broken the 220 mark. 219.4 lbs
Bravissimo, Paul!
My check-in this morning: 235.2
This morning: 233.8, which is indeed a new low. I shall try to remain true!
234.2, which probably counts as "steady." And I have stairs to climb at lunchtime . . . .
216.4 lbs. The pounds are just flying off!
Excellent, Paul!
My weigh-in this morning was 234.4
This morning: 233.2
Climbed stairs today, took it easy and went up only to 22.
Quote from: karlhenning on September 17, 2013, 09:00:57 AM
Climbed stairs today, took it easy and went up only to 22.
22 floors??
Yes.
233.2 again this morning, for which I suppose I should be grateful . . . guess I have to apply myself a bit more.
Up to 23 today.
This morning, a new low: 232.4
214.0 lbs
206. It's taking forever to get to 200. :P
211.2 lbs
209.4lbs this morning!
Well done!
Since my vacation in the first week of September, I have gone from 227# to 203#. I am pleased with this, a good start. The impetus was a diabetes diagnosis. I would suggest that you not wait for that to decide to lose. I got a lot of new holes in me now... :-\
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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on November 18, 2013, 04:58:01 AM
Since my vacation in the first week of September, I have gone from 227# to 203#. I am pleased with this, a good start. The impetus was a diabetes diagnosis. I would suggest that you not wait for that to decide to lose. I got a lot of new holes in me now... :-\
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Partly why I decided to lose weight, not that I have had a diagnosis of diabetes, but to prevent it. Runs in my family (grandfather had it). Going from 287 (in 2010) to what I am now (probably should still lose some).........has probably decreased that probability of a diagnoses.
Quote from: PaulR on November 18, 2013, 05:03:15 AM
Partly why I decided to lose weight, not that I have had a diagnosis of diabetes, but to prevent it. Runs in my family (grandfather had it). Going from 287 (in 2010) to what I am now (probably should still lose some).........has probably decreased that probability of a diagnoses.
I agree, it should be a big help. I have 2 close relatives with Type I, but I'm the only with Type II. Still, just losing what I have has already helped a lot, my freaking knees don't hurt all the time, for example. That has already made life better! :)
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Aye . . . I'm on my feet without cease when I do a shift at the MFA. Particularly trying after having already worked an eight-hour day elsewhere.
Anyway, for a year or so there was the low-grade achiness in the lower-back . . . but even the modest weight loss I've managed so far has eliminated that physical nuisance.
Quote from: karlhenning on November 18, 2013, 06:13:35 AM
Aye . . . I'm on my feet without cease when I do a shift at the MFA. Particularly trying after having already worked an eight-hour day elsewhere.
Anyway, for a year or so there was the low-grade achiness in the lower-back . . . but even the modest weight loss I've managed so far has eliminated that physical nuisance.
That's great. I have a similar issue, it would be good to have that disappear too. :)
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207 lbs today............but Turkey day looms................
But I can almost say that I am no longer "overweight" by virtue of the BMI.
Great news! Well done!
Woke up to 205 lbs!
Also, went to the gym for the first time since October.
Quote from: PaulR on January 27, 2014, 06:38:58 AM
Woke up to 205 lbs!
Also, went to the gym for the first time since October.
Congrats on that. I am on a different method (my own, I'm afraid); proving I can lose 53lb without moving anything at all. Now at -40, so there may be a research grant in the offing... :D
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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on January 27, 2014, 07:11:31 AM
Congrats on that. I am on a different method (my own, I'm afraid); proving I can lose 53lb without moving anything at all. Now at -40, so there may be a research grant in the offing... :D
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Last semester, I didn't have time to go to the gym so I relied on just nutrition. Lost about 10-15 lbs that way, so it is definitely possible!
(http://i.imgur.com/CcR3OLY.jpg)
201 lbs this morning! 2 pounds away from not being overweight!
coffee and cigarettes
It's time for me to join this thread. :'(
I'm at the heaviest I've ever been in my life. I'm 5'8, 200 lbs. The weight is all in belly and around waist.
I should be maximum 165 lbs for my height. Up until age 30, I was 120 lbs (too thin!). At age 39, metabolism is slowing down, obviously. I use to be active, but I don't have any energy when I get home from work.
I'm seeing my family doctor tomorrow. Also looking into seeing a nutritionist. Ideally, I'd like to try a mainly plant based, whole foods diet, along with an exercise regimen.
Wish me luck. :)
good luck!
Quick update: down to 194lbs myself
Quote from: PaulR on June 04, 2014, 04:15:23 PM
good luck!
Quick update: down to 194lbs myself
Thanks Paul! :)
Quote from: ChamberNut on June 04, 2014, 04:11:07 PM
It's time for me to join this thread. :'(
I'm at the heaviest I've ever been in my life. I'm 5'8, 200 lbs. The weight is all in belly and around waist.
I should be maximum 165 lbs for my height. Up until age 30, I was 120 lbs (too thin!). At age 39, metabolism is slowing down, obviously. I use to be active, but I don't have any energy when I get home from work.
I'm seeing my family doctor tomorrow. Also looking into seeing a nutritionist. Ideally, I'd like to try a mainly plant based, whole foods diet, along with an exercise regimen.
Wish me luck. :)
I DO wish you luck, Ray. Dude, there is nothing wrong with meat, just sayin'. It's the carbs that kill.
After 7 months I have lost 42 pounds, but sort of hit the wall. I gain 2, lose 2, just sort of standing in place. I think I have gone as far as I can go on the 'motion free' diet I invented. Which is to say, I haven't moved out of my chair since I started it, but I guess it's time to get up, maybe go sit on the porch... :)
I have cut out all extraneous carbs, and my only grains intake is whole grain, which includes breads, pasta, even crackers. No candy. No cake.
Sugar-free ice cream. Well, that's a misnomer: no added sugar ice cream.
Lots of fresh fruit and veggies. And meat. You gotta have protein, good healthy red-meat protein.
Still, I may have to move a little bit. Damn, I liked this chair, too. :-\
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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on June 04, 2014, 04:22:22 PM
I DO wish you luck, Ray. Dude, there is nothing wrong with meat, just sayin'. It's the carbs that kill.
After 7 months I have lost 42 pounds, but sort of hit the wall. I gain 2, lose 2, just sort of standing in place. I think I have gone as far as I can go on the 'motion free' diet I invented. Which is to say, I haven't moved out of my chair since I started it, but I guess it's time to get up, maybe go sit on the porch... :)
I have cut out all extraneous carbs, and my only grains intake is whole grain, which includes breads, pasta, even crackers. No candy. No cake. Sugar-free ice cream. Well, that's a misnomer: no added sugar ice cream.
Lots of fresh fruit and veggies. And meat. You gotta have protein, good healthy red-meat protein.
Still, I may have to move a little bit. Damn, I liked this chair, too. :-\
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Well done, Gurn. I don't necessarily want to rule out meat completely, but definitely a reduction....with a greater focus on fresh vegetables and fruits, and whole foods (whole grain).
One problem I have is medication that I take in the evening, for depression and anxiety before I go to bed (it makes me super hungry, making me eat before bedtime which is definitely not a good thing).
Quote from: PaulR on June 04, 2014, 04:15:23 PM
good luck!
Quick update: down to 194lbs myself
Wow Paul, you've made a tremendous amount of progress (just looking back at some previous posts). You should be very pleased and proud of this accomplishment. Well done! :)
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on June 04, 2014, 04:22:22 PM
I DO wish you luck, Ray. Dude, there is nothing wrong with meat, just sayin'. It's the carbs that kill.
After 7 months I have lost 42 pounds, but sort of hit the wall. I gain 2, lose 2, just sort of standing in place. I think I have gone as far as I can go on the 'motion free' diet I invented. Which is to say, I haven't moved out of my chair since I started it, but I guess it's time to get up, maybe go sit on the porch... :)
I have cut out all extraneous carbs, and my only grains intake is whole grain, which includes breads, pasta, even crackers. No candy. No cake. Sugar-free ice cream. Well, that's a misnomer: no added sugar ice cream.
Lots of fresh fruit and veggies. And meat. You gotta have protein, good healthy red-meat protein.
Still, I may have to move a little bit. Damn, I liked this chair, too. :-\
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Just play Haydn while you're on the treadmill! I was on a roll last summer and I'd run while playing music. Favorites for that were Bartok's 2nd PC, Dvorak Slavonic dances, Gershwin "Cuban Overture", and especially Ravel's "Bolero" (yes, I do love that piece, I freely admit). I tried the Ligeti PC a few times, but I was afraid that I would somehow trip. ??? :-\
Quote from: ChamberNut on June 04, 2014, 04:25:14 PM
Well done, Gurn. I don't necessarily want to rule out meat completely, but definitely a reduction....with a greater focus on fresh vegetables and fruits, and whole foods (whole grain).
One problem I have is medication that I take in the evening, for depression and anxiety before I go to bed (it makes me super hungry, making me eat before bedtime which is definitely not a good thing).
Yeah, I have to take a handful every day too, but it is in the morning. If I don't eat something I'll be sick, but it doesn't have to be a lot. I usually have a bowl of oatmeal and a glass of orange juice. I don't know quite how I would handle it if I had to do it at night. I'm looking for a good snack right now for those times when I used to eat a piece of candy. I've been eating dry-roasted nuts, but as good as they are for you, I think they still provide too much calories. Anyway, where I was going is you need to find a snack to eat at those times that will not increase your carb load. I usually at a grapefruit or an orange when my sugar drops (I have diabetes) and I need sugar without it being something bad. Compromises... :-\
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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on June 04, 2014, 04:22:22 PM
I DO wish you luck, Ray. Dude, there is nothing wrong with meat, just sayin'. It's the carbs that kill.
After 7 months I have lost 42 pounds, but sort of hit the wall. I gain 2, lose 2, just sort of standing in place. I think I have gone as far as I can go on the 'motion free' diet I invented. Which is to say, I haven't moved out of my chair since I started it, but I guess it's time to get up, maybe go sit on the porch... :)
I have cut out all extraneous carbs, and my only grains intake is whole grain, which includes breads, pasta, even crackers. No candy. No cake. Sugar-free ice cream. Well, that's a misnomer: no added sugar ice cream.
Lots of fresh fruit and veggies. And meat. You gotta have protein, good healthy red-meat protein.
Still, I may have to move a little bit. Damn, I liked this chair, too. :-\
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Carry the chair to the porch Gurn. Some added weight training :P
I haven't really set out to cut carbs from my diet, mainly focused on calories and still down nearly 75lbs. I still enjoy things like ice cream in moderation.
Quote from: ChamberNut on June 04, 2014, 04:26:19 PM
Wow Paul, you've made a tremendous amount of progress (just looking back at some previous posts). You should be very pleased and proud of this accomplishment. Well done! :)
Thanks! It's been hard work....but it needed to be done.
Quote from: EigenUser on June 04, 2014, 04:28:46 PM
Just play Haydn while you're on the treadmill! I was on a roll last summer and I'd run while playing music. Favorites for that were Bartok's 2nd PC, Dvorak Slavonic dances, Gershwin "Cuban Overture", and especially Ravel's "Bolero" (yes, I do love that piece, I freely admit). I tried the Ligeti PC a few times, but I was afraid that I would somehow trip. ??? :-\
:) Well, I sold the treadmill. It just wasn't feeding the bulldog for me. I had my MP3 player filled with tunes and off I would go, but it sucked so bad, plus I couldn't see it doing anything for me. Up until 2009, I walked the golf course at least once a week, schlepping my clubs behind. But I had a serious medical issue back then (major surgery) and I couldn't walk it for a long time. During that period I just got so out of shape that now I can't walk it anyway. I will tell you this, not as a crutch I'm leaning on, but just the fact; it was a lot easier for me to stay in shape when I was younger than it is now!! :)
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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on June 04, 2014, 04:31:37 PM
Yeah, I have to take a handful every day too, but it is in the morning. If I don't eat something I'll be sick, but it doesn't have to be a lot. I usually have a bowl of oatmeal and a glass of orange juice. I don't know quite how I would handle it if I had to do it at night. I'm looking for a good snack right now for those times when I used to eat a piece of candy. I've been eating dry-roasted nuts, but as good as they are for you, I think they still provide too much calories. Anyway, where I was going is you need to find a snack to eat at those times that will not increase your carb load. I usually at a grapefruit or an orange when my sugar drops (I have diabetes) and I need sugar without it being something bad. Compromises... :-\
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Well, I love grapefruit! One of my favourites. I could have that and a small handful of natural almonds in the evening.
Quote from: PaulR on June 04, 2014, 04:32:58 PM
Carry the chair to the porch Gurn. Some added weight training :P
I haven't really set out to cut carbs from my diet, mainly focused on calories and still down nearly 75lbs. I still enjoy things like ice cream in moderation.
Thanks! It's been hard work....but it needed to be done.
Yeah, that's the ticket! Thanks! :)
Well, whether you focus on carbs or calories, you still accomplish the same end, I think. Your weight loss has been outstanding, I must say. If I now start to add something else to what I'm doing, like fat content, for example, then I can probably get down to 165, which is my long term goal. 14 years ago I cut way back on fat and lost 40 pounds, and kept it off for 9 years until that surgery. The combination of quitting smoking cigars and not being able to exercise for 8 months was too much for me to fight off. Working on it now though... :)
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Quote from: ChamberNut on June 04, 2014, 04:35:53 PM
Well, I love grapefruit! One of my favourites. I could have that and a small handful of natural almonds in the evening.
That would be the ultimate snack; tastes great and so good for you you will hardly be able to stand yourself! :)
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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on June 04, 2014, 04:31:37 PM
Yeah, I have to take a handful every day too, but it is in the morning. If I don't eat something I'll be sick, but it doesn't have to be a lot. I usually have a bowl of oatmeal and a glass of orange juice. I don't know quite how I would handle it if I had to do it at night. I'm looking for a good snack right now for those times when I used to eat a piece of candy. I've been eating dry-roasted nuts, but as good as they are for you, I think they still provide too much calories. Anyway, where I was going is you need to find a snack to eat at those times that will not increase your carb load. I usually at a grapefruit or an orange when my sugar drops (I have diabetes) and I need sugar without it being something bad. Compromises... :-\
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Carrots and hummus? That is one of my go to snacks (The other being oranges) during the weight loss.
Quote from: PaulR on June 04, 2014, 04:41:41 PM
Carrots and hummus?
There is another thing I really enjoy!! :) Any fresh veggie with hummus is fantastic.
Quote from: PaulR on June 04, 2014, 04:41:41 PM
Carrots and hummus? That is one of my go to snacks (The other being oranges) during the weight loss.
Well, I can't handle hummus, but I eat Greek yoghurt every morning at work for my coffee break snack. Way better than Twinkies! Oranges are the best food in the world, bar none. A small handful of dry-roasted peanuts, or some walnuts, along with an orange, well, you just can't do better! :)
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Quote from: ChamberNut on June 04, 2014, 04:11:07 PM
It's time for me to join this thread. :'(
I'm at the heaviest I've ever been in my life. I'm 5'8, 200 lbs. The weight is all in belly and around waist.
I should be maximum 165 lbs for my height. Up until age 30, I was 120 lbs (too thin!). At age 39, metabolism is slowing down, obviously. I use to be active, but I don't have any energy when I get home from work.
I'm seeing my family doctor tomorrow. Also looking into seeing a nutritionist. Ideally, I'd like to try a mainly plant based, whole foods diet, along with an exercise regimen.
Wish me luck. :)
I remember being 39. Those were good years.
Quote from: Ken B on June 04, 2014, 04:54:37 PM
I remember being 39. Those were good years.
I barely do, but I took good notes.... :D
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234.2 this morning.
Took me an age to see that 4 again in the 10s column! (And took a big concert to do it . . . .)
213. Want to get down to 205 again.
It's not happening too quickly. :D
I'm 205 and want to get to 180. Unfortunately, I am planning a 2.5 week vacation to the States next week--which means massive quantities of ice-cream. Anyway, plan to go veggies and soymilk this week. Should be easy to drop 5 before I slap on 10 while on vacation.
Quote from: Baklavaboy on June 07, 2014, 11:17:29 PM
I'm 205 and want to get to 180. Unfortunately, I am planning a 2.5 week vacation to the States next week--which means massive quantities of ice-cream. Anyway, plan to go veggies and soymilk this week. Should be easy to drop 5 before I slap on 10 while on vacation.
That's the spirit!
I am off on a winery and brewery tour in northrn Michigan next week, so I face the same dilemma.
Quote from: karlhenning on June 07, 2014, 05:22:00 AM
234.2 this morning.
Took me an age to see that 4 again in the 10s column! (And took a big concert to do it . . . .)
I have not lost the 4! I mean, I
desire a 3 there, but I am pleased not to have crept back to the 5 . . . .
Quote from: Mn Dave on June 07, 2014, 05:27:24 AM
213. Want to get down to 205 again.
It's not happening too quickly. :D
211, but I was kind of sick yesterday. That's one way to lose it.
Not a sustainable method, though . . . .
Quote from: karlhenning on June 09, 2014, 06:12:07 AM
Not a sustainable method, though . . . .
Hey, I'll take what I can get.
Well, this week I started drinking my coffee black, for the first time ever! And I drink a lot of coffee. :) Cutting out the milk and sugar alone, has made me feel more energetic.
I 'winged' a most amazing, nutritious and delicious snack yesterday!
Cut a red bell pepper in half. Clean out the seeds.
Put one or two spoons of greek yogurt.
Squirt some horseradish mustard.
Sprinkle some unsalted sunflower seeds.
Finally, sprinkle a bit of ground chili pepper on top.
Amazingly delicious!
Quote from: Mn Dave on June 09, 2014, 06:03:00 AM
211, but I was kind of sick yesterday. That's one way to lose it.
Over the years I've found that being sick is a good way to jump start shedding a few pounds. Turning a negative into a positive of sorts. The trick is keeping it off.
Another nutritious boost of energy.
Combine in a blender:
1 or 2 handfuls of spinach
1 handful of blueberries
1 banana
1 cup of skim milk
1 or 2 spoonfuls of greek yogurt
Blend for 15 or so seconds.
Delicious, nutritious, and a great energy boost! :)
Well, got my initial measurements for my preliminary workout program (wow, that first run through all the exercises was rough, but it can only get better!) :D
Weight: 199 lbs
Body Fat %: 30.3%
Body Mass Index: 30.3%
Waist: 39.6 in.
Go, Ray, go!
Quote from: ChamberNut on June 17, 2014, 05:38:55 AM
Well, got my initial measurements for my preliminary workout program (wow, that first run through all the exercises was rough, but it can only get better!) :D
Weight: 199 lbs
194.6 lbs - as of Friday the 20th. :)
Go, Ray, go!
Quote from: karlhenning on June 09, 2014, 05:59:26 AM
I have not lost the 4! I mean, I desire a 3 there, but I am pleased not to have crept back to the 5 . . . .
232.4 this morning (admittedly, right after a 90-minute-ish walk).
Back from vacation. I'm at about 205. Lots of steak and ice-cream.
I like to think big: I plan to get down to 180 by Christmas, that is, lose about 1 pound a week until that time. I will not 'go on a diet' but will make a goal of doing some kind of exercise each day. I will try to control my eating by constantly reminding myself that I exercised (which I don't particularly like) and would be a fool to negate the calories so laboriously burned by slapping them back on again through foolish eating. If I get any traction with this, I'll let you know $:)
Went down another pants size, now a 34". When I started, I was 42". Got to remember that when I feel (irrationally) fat....
Quote from: PaulR on July 17, 2014, 08:24:26 AM
Went down another pants size, now a 34". When I started, I was 42". Got to remember that when I feel (irrationally) fat....
Super fantastic,
Paul! :) Keep it up, that is amazing!
Quote from: Baklavaboy on July 04, 2014, 07:12:00 AM
Back from vacation. I'm at about 205. Lots of steak and ice-cream.
I like to think big: I plan to get down to 180 by Christmas, that is, lose about 1 pound a week until that time. I will not 'go on a diet' but will make a goal of doing some kind of exercise each day. I will try to control my eating by constantly reminding myself that I exercised (which I don't particularly like) and would be a fool to negate the calories so laboriously burned by slapping them back on again through foolish eating. If I get any traction with this, I'll let you know $:)
Conquer!
Quote from: Baklavaboy on July 04, 2014, 07:12:00 AM
Back from vacation. I'm at about 205. Lots of steak and ice-cream.
I like to think big: I plan to get down to 180 by Christmas, that is, lose about 1 pound a week until that time. I will not 'go on a diet' but will make a goal of doing some kind of exercise each day. I will try to control my eating by constantly reminding myself that I exercised (which I don't particularly like) and would be a fool to negate the calories so laboriously burned by slapping them back on again through foolish eating. If I get any traction with this, I'll let you know $:)
Cool. Yes, the word "diet" assumes that you will go on and then go off eventually. Just eating healthier and within portions is the key for me.
Quote from: Bogey on July 17, 2014, 10:26:17 AM
Cool. Yes, the word "diet" assumes that you will go on and then go off eventually. Just eating healthier and within portions is the key for me.
+1 - Eating healthy is the key for me, also. Diets do not work long term.
Quote from: ChamberNut on July 17, 2014, 10:38:33 AM
+1 - Eating healthy is the key for me, also. Diets do not work long term.
Like trying to defeat the Borg. ;D
I've been doing 20 minutes of weight training 5 days a week followed by about 35 minutes of cardio (increasing cardio gradually) and eating really well. 5 pounds melted off the first 10 days, but then mysteriously 3 came back...I'd be frustrated except I know only good things can have been happening in my body. The good thing about switching to healthy eating, after a few days the craving for junk food disappears--once you get past the weird insulin cycles from pigging out on ice-cream and whatnot. Mangoes are in season here in Taiwan, and my staple food right now is the mango smoothy (protein powder, mango and soy milk ;D ;D ;D).
Quote from: ChamberNut on June 17, 2014, 05:38:55 AM
Well, got my initial measurements for my preliminary workout program (wow, that first run through all the exercises was rough, but it can only get better!) :D
Weight: 199 lbs
Body Fat %: 30.3%
Body Mass Index: 30.3
Waist: 39.6 in.
6 weeks later, on July 29thWeight: 183 lbs
Body Fat %: 29%
Body Mass Index: 27.8
Waist: 38.1 inches
The significant change was the weight loss, to be sure. It 'feels' like I lost more around the waist, only because when I look in the mirror, things are starting to look much better proportioned already. :)
Huzzah for our Ray!
Quote from: ChamberNut on August 06, 2014, 05:42:48 AM
6 weeks later, on July 29th
Weight: 183 lbs
Body Fat %: 29%
Body Mass Index: 27.8
Waist: 38.1 inches
The significant change was the weight loss, to be sure. It 'feels' like I lost more around the waist, only because when I look in the mirror, things are starting to look much better proportioned already. :)
Damn! That's impressive. Great work.
Again I say, huzzah!
Quote from: Baklavaboy on August 06, 2014, 06:21:37 AM
Damn! That's impressive. Great work.
Thank you. :) Cutting out virtually all processed foods, and all processed sugars. Just eating mainly plant based and whole foods. Lean meat once or twice a week. The combination has given me tremendous energy, and the exercise program I am doing is going great (3 times a week).
In addition, I went off a night time anti-depressant about 3 or 4 weeks ago, one that is known to give night time food cravings, and it was doing that for me. It's been a blessing to rid my body of that one!
Quote from: ChamberNut on August 06, 2014, 06:24:51 AM
Thank you. :) Cutting out virtually all processed foods, and all processed sugars. Just eating mainly plant based and whole foods. Lean meat once or twice a week. The combination has given me tremendous energy, and the exercise program I am doing is going great (3 times a week).
In addition, I went off a night time anti-depressant about 3 or 4 weeks ago, one that is known to give night time food cravings, and it was doing that for me. It's been a blessing to rid my body of that one!
Glad to hear it is going so well, Ray. Keep it going brother!
Quote from: Bogey on August 06, 2014, 07:14:14 AM
Glad to hear it is going so well, Ray. Keep it going brother!
Thanks very much, Bill! :)
This morning (at long last): 230.0
Man, I want to see that 2 in the tens!
Quote from: karlhenning on September 15, 2014, 01:35:21 AM
This morning (at long last): 230.0
Man, I want to see that 2 in the tens!
Congrats!
I've been going to the gym a lot recently. Two or three times a week (including this morning) I wake up at 3:45AM in the morning so I could get ready and be there by the time they open (I need about 45 minutes to get ready and 15 minutes to drive to my university, where the gym is). It's amazing how much better you feel about yourself. I've been getting to bed around 8:30-9:00PM, so getting up at such an hour isn't so bad. I've always liked waking up early and on a regular day I get up around 4:30-5:00AM.
This morning I was up a few pounds at 192, most likely just water weight from rather salty pizza the night before.
Still, it's not easy to resist the irrationality of obsessing over those few pounds :P
And I probably should start going to the gym again, not necessarily to lose more weight, but rather just tone the body.
Hallelujah! This morning: 229.6
More work, I know, but what a landmark feeling . . . .
Quote from: karlhenning on September 21, 2014, 02:54:13 AM
Hallelujah! This morning: 229.6
More work, I know, but what a landmark feeling . . . .
A swift perusal of the numbers in this Thread and I can see why I'm getting so much heat from the gallery.
But why don't people accept that a 165-180lb Karl IS going to THINK DIFFERENTLY than a 250lb Karl?
Do you think I'M the "hater" here?
I'm all for y'alls losing the guts, but the vociferous ones in the other Thread seem to think.... gaaah,.... I don't know what they think- like losing weight is giving in to the bigots?????? wtf??
There are MANY ways in which we can lose our humanity, no? What am I missing? (I HAVE to be mean to cellulite for a reason- that won't change- it's for the greater good!!)
Did Hitler ever give Geobbels shit?
Quote from: snyprrr on September 21, 2014, 07:44:16 AM
A swift perusal of the numbers in this Thread and I can see why I'm getting so much heat from the gallery.
More like the fact that this thread is 83 pages- says it all.
I remember Elias telling me a few years ago that he laughs at this place because all he had to do to change from being obese to thin within a year was to switch to a fruit-only diet. Anyone try that? If so and it hasn't worked, my sympathies, but I'd be surprised if many people here have tried it.
Quote from: snyprrr on September 21, 2014, 07:44:16 AM
A swift perusal of the numbers in this Thread and I can see why I'm getting so much heat from the gallery.
But why don't people accept that a 165-180lb Karl IS going to THINK DIFFERENTLY than a 250lb Karl?
Do you think I'M the "hater" here?
I'm all for y'alls losing the guts, but the vociferous ones in the other Thread seem to think.... gaaah,.... I don't know what they think- like losing weight is giving in to the bigots?????? wtf??
There are MANY ways in which we can lose our humanity, no? What am I missing? (I HAVE to be mean to cellulite for a reason- that won't change- it's for the greater good!!)
Did Hitler ever give Geobbels shit?
Dude, I just want to weigh a bit less, manage my cholesterol numbers easier with minimal medication.
We'll see what effect a lighter Karl has on the music he writes . . . .
Quote from: Greg on September 21, 2014, 08:35:48 AM
More like the fact that this thread is 83 pages- says it all.
I remember Elias telling me a few years ago that he laughs at this place because all he had to do to change from being obese to thin within a year was to switch to a fruit-only diet. Anyone try that? If so and it hasn't worked, my sympathies, but I'd be surprised if many people here have tried it.
I eat fruit daily, but not too much, for the obvious reason that fructose is still a sugar. Lots of vegetables, now, that's a diet I can live with.
I do not think anyone can keep going for very long on a fruit-only-diet. You may lose a lot of weight in a few months, but you cannot really live like that. The point is to change your diet into something you can sustain for the rest of your life and which is healthy.
(I am not fat, but I trying to get from about 78 kg to below 75, preferably around 72; I am about 1,74 tall. But I am just trying to eat a little less and exercise more and avoid most alcoholic beverages and sweets.)
Quote from: karlhenning on September 21, 2014, 08:39:10 AM
We'll see what effect a lighter Karl has on the music he writes . . . .
;D
230 really isn't all that bad for your height. If you were 5'2," I'd be seriously concerned... :-X
Quote from: Jo498 on September 21, 2014, 08:43:57 AM
I do not think anyone can keep going for very long on a fruit-only-diet. You may lose a lot of weight in a few months, but you cannot really live like that. The point is to change your diet into something you can sustain for the rest of your life and which is healthy.
I think it's been about 4 years or so since Elias has been on that diet, though. I'm sure every now and then he might "cheat," but in his experience it works. And like Karl said, there's always vegetables also...
o.k., maybe some people can, I certainly could not and it seems rather low on protein and some other things the body needs.
Good lord! Different perceptions, indeed.
I have extreme difficulty with keeping my weight under 155 and I really want to be under 150 because over thatweight I look rather pudgy. I am 5'11".
Part of my problem is that I have Crohn's disease, which pushes large swathes of normal diet off the table, so to speak. Nothing with fiber, no oil or grease ( which impacts meat, fish and baked goods well beyond the obvious. So I can not eat "healthy". Elias's diet would land me in the hospital in a few days.
Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on September 21, 2014, 09:10:29 AM
Good lord! Different perceptions, indeed.
I have extreme difficulty with keeping my weight under 155 and I really want to be under 150 because over thatweight I look rather pudgy. I am 5'11".
Part of my problem is that I have Crohn's disease, which pushes large swathes of normal diet off the table, so to speak. Nothing with fiber, no oil or grease ( which impacts meat, fish and baked goods well beyond the obvious. So I can not eat "healthy". Elias's diet would land me in the hospital in a few days.
Really? lol I'm having a hard time imagining someone looking pudgy at 5'11" 155 lbs... maybe lift weights if you don't already, but I'm 5'10" 152 lbs and I still look thinner than I'd like. My final goal is 180 lbs with abs, which may be a very difficult next two years...
Quote from: Jo498 on September 21, 2014, 08:43:57 AM
I do not think anyone can keep going for very long on a fruit-only-diet. You may lose a lot of weight in a few months, but you cannot really live like that. The point is to change your diet into something you can sustain for the rest of your life and which is healthy.
Indeed.
189.4 lbs 8)
Well done!
Quote from: Greg on September 21, 2014, 09:19:46 AM
Really? lol I'm having a hard time imagining someone looking pudgy at 5'11" 155 lbs... maybe lift weights if you don't already, but I'm 5'10" 152 lbs and I still look thinner than I'd like. My final goal is 180 lbs with abs, which may be a very difficult next two years...
Greg----- 180??????? you'll look like a meat monster----- I mean---- that's 30lbs you want to add to 5'10???????
did a girl put you up to this? :laugh:
seriously- 165 should be Steve Reeves enough for you I think
maintaining what you want would be too much, no?
Quote from: snyprrr on September 22, 2014, 07:10:20 AM
Greg----- 180??????? you'll look like a meat monster----- I mean---- that's 30lbs you want to add to 5'10???????
did a girl put you up to this? :laugh:
seriously- 165 should be Steve Reeves enough for you I think
maintaining what you want would be too much, no?
lol just my idea...
And yeah, maintaining that will be a pain lol... with my metabolism, I'll have to have order a dump truck full of food each day.
Quote from: Greg on September 22, 2014, 10:57:15 AM
lol just my idea...
And yeah, maintaining that will be a pain lol... with my metabolism, I'll have to have order a dump truck full of food each day.
YEA, IT'S OUTRAGEOUS WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO EAT (soorry caps)- to GAIN weight-- like 23,000 calories a day--- who can eat that muuu.... oh, yea,... nevermind...
I tried these little cookie dough shakes- tiny bottle/400 calories- it was great, but went right into my indigestion section, ugggh.
You can always whip up one of those peanut butter and oatmeal shakes- 2 a day- but you'll have to work out or you'll be back here complaining about yer gut.
I just can't seem to find the high fat food I want.
I hate eating. :(
I go to Chipotle and I just get tired thinking about having to eat that huge bowl of rice and chicken. I can only eat there once every six months- even though it's like a perfect meal. I just want shakes shakes shakes.... tired of chewing and eating (get the feeling I already Posted this here before)
I don't get the people that can't stop eating- they should start smoking and drinking coffee- simple.
Since I picked up this coffee habit again six months ago I haven't been ABLE to eat--- it's a struggle just to get a meal every few days--- ffffuuuu.... looove coffee... mwah mwah mwah... too much...
I'll just take this opportunity (NO! I'm not going to "apologize" for anything- lolz!) to say that I THOUGHT I was 5'11" my whole adult life. Last year I told my friend, and they looked at me funny and mocked me, and we went and got the tape--
(*^M@)@R#@!)MWG
I'M 5'8'' :o
Seriously, do any of you have any idea??? I prided myself on KNOWING I was ALMOST 6 feet. I always had THAT confidence. Ohhh.... lolz... I MEAN- IT SAID SO ON MY DRIVER'S LIC!!!!!! I must've beefed up my profile in college, lolz. mm mm mm, what a card ::)
But- it hasn't effected me really. I guess at this point it's just a number to me- though I always wondered why 6'4" always seemed SOOOO tall, haha!!
oy vey indeed ::)
so, to all those who think I'm such a bigot-- I'M A VICTIM TOO!! :'(
And I'm particularly attracted to Amazon Women.... when will I learn?
Surely this height thing would only open up another can o' owrms????? (owrms muuuch worse than worms by far!!)
Quote from: snyprrr on September 23, 2014, 08:07:47 AM
YEA, IT'S OUTRAGEOUS WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO EAT (soorry caps)- to GAIN weight-- like 23,000 calories a day--- who can eat that muuu.... oh, yea,... nevermind...
I tried these little cookie dough shakes- tiny bottle/400 calories- it was great, but went right into my indigestion section, ugggh.
You can always whip up one of those peanut butter and oatmeal shakes- 2 a day- but you'll have to work out or you'll be back here complaining about yer gut.
I just can't seem to find the high fat food I want.
I hate eating. :(
I go to Chipotle and I just get tired thinking about having to eat that huge bowl of rice and chicken. I can only eat there once every six months- even though it's like a perfect meal. I just want shakes shakes shakes.... tired of chewing and eating (get the feeling I already Posted this here before)
I don't get the people that can't stop eating- they should start smoking and drinking coffee- simple.
Since I picked up this coffee habit again six months ago I haven't been ABLE to eat--- it's a struggle just to get a meal every few days--- ffffuuuu.... looove coffee... mwah mwah mwah... too much...
Shakes help me maintain an acceptable size. I need to count again, but I probably take in 3500 calories a day. There are certain tricks, too, to consuming healthy calories- such as 5 tablespoons of extra virgin olive oil is about 600 extra calories a day. Mainly I drink tons of milk, though. It's a real pain finding affordable, enjoyable, somewhat healthy foods that are high in calories per bite.
Quote from: Greg on September 23, 2014, 08:19:58 AM
It's a real pain finding affordable, enjoyable, somewhat healthy foods that are high in calories per bite.
Not for me. This what I want to eat every minute of the day. But can't :'( :'( :'(
Quote from: Greg on September 21, 2014, 08:44:09 AM
230 really isn't all that bad for your height. If you were 5'2," I'd be seriously concerned... :-X
230 is not
bad; but the loss of another (say) 20lb. will ease burdens on my knees and back. (At the time when I was floating in the 240-245 range, I had a mild-but-frequent lower back pain, arising from spending so much time on my feet at the shop, and which simply went away by my losing a few pounds.) And in my case, the desire to exercise and lose weight also has the result of improving my cholesterol numbers.
None of these, to be sure, are concerns at your age.
Today (and twice): 229.6
So it's no fluke 8)
Step count for the week: 69,405
Right after a walk, so non-binding 8) : 228.2
And again this morning: 228.2
Sometimes I get a little suspicious when the dial reads exactly the same two or three times in a row . . . so, monitoring the situation closely 8)
I think I got a little carried away with this weight loss thing....187.4lbs
Quote from: karlhenning on September 29, 2014, 04:22:52 AM
And again this morning: 228.2
Sometimes I get a little suspicious when the dial reads exactly the same two or three times in a row . . . so, monitoring the situation closely 8)
This morning: 228.4
Very pleased with that, actually, knowing the distractions and temptations when off a-vacationing.
Quote from: PaulR on September 29, 2014, 04:48:34 AM
I think I got a little carried away with this weight loss thing....187.4lbs
what? are you 6'4:?
This morning: 227.2
229.0 this morning. Glad that we still have that 2 in the 10's column . . . .
I busted the button on a pair of pants trying to squeeze into them. Time to get serious again. I went to the gym the last two days. Fast workouts, but I'm feelin' em...
No! Not . . . binge exercising! 8)
Good luck!
Quote from: karlhenning on October 21, 2014, 08:13:02 AM
No! Not . . . binge exercising! 8)
Good luck!
Well, naturally I want to make it a habit, but yeah, once my pants fit alright, I do lose my motivation :-\
I understand. How to keep purpose, when urgency has passed?
Quote from: karlhenning on October 21, 2014, 08:25:16 AM
I understand. How to keep purpose, when urgency has passed?
My wife really got hooked on swimming, because she says if she doesn't go, now she feels sluggish all day. Maybe that's true for me, too, but I'm too sluggish and apathetic to notice ???
Quote from: Baklavaboy on October 21, 2014, 08:10:28 AM
I busted the button on a pair of pants trying to squeeze into them. Time to get serious again. I went to the gym the last two days. Fast workouts, but I'm feelin' em...
A friend of mine has been going to the gym with me each week to show me proper ways/techniques of lifting. Two days ago he had me doing all sorts of leg workouts. Yesterday morning I could hardly get out of bed. Even today I'm still sore. Geez, I'm so pathetic... :-[
Quote from: Baklavaboy on October 21, 2014, 08:23:34 AM
Well, naturally I want to make it a habit, but yeah, once my pants fit alright, I do lose my motivation :-\
A few years ago, in a pinch in my room, I did actually use a 100 CD box set as a weight to do curls.
Quote from: EigenUser on October 21, 2014, 08:52:30 AM
A friend of mine has been going to the gym with me each week to show me proper ways/techniques of lifting. Two days ago he had me doing all sorts of leg workouts. Yesterday morning I could hardly get out of bed. Even today I'm still sore. Geez, I'm so pathetic... :-[
Lol, that's normal. But satisfying, too. I discovered recently that the only reason I usually don't feel the pain the next day is because I'm not working out hard enough, so it is actually nice to feel when it does happen.
Quote from: Brian on October 21, 2014, 09:17:46 AM
A few years ago, in a pinch in my room, I did actually use a 100 CD box set as a weight to do curls.
It would seem that you have the biceps of a classical music fan ::) :D
Quote from: Baklavaboy on October 21, 2014, 07:14:44 PM
It would seem that you have the biceps of a classical music fan ::) :D
Instead of weights you could use box sets. Start with Webern. He'd be the lightest -- short pieces, small output. Then the French impressionists. And Ligeti. Things might start getting heavy with Messiaen -- he did have that four-hour opera that is included in the Messiaen edition box (along with everything else he wrote). I guess the heaviest weight would be Haydn or Bach.
Quote from: Greg on October 21, 2014, 07:13:53 PM
Lol, that's normal. But satisfying, too. I discovered recently that the only reason I usually don't feel the pain the next day is because I'm not working out hard enough, so it is actually nice to feel when it does happen.
Oh, I know. It wouldn't be worth it if I couldn't feel anything the next day. That's why the next day I texted my friend saying something like "I got out of bed the next morning. Ow. But a good 'ow', if there ever was such a thing."
Quote from: EigenUser on October 22, 2014, 01:13:53 AM
... you could use box sets. Start with Webern.
We discussing the discus throw now?
>:D
This morning: 228.2
Well, my slow, wise, responsible weight-loss plan has long since fallen by the wayside. I still want to meet my original goal, however, so have now started an intensive and aggressive one. Not a crash diet or anything, but a 7 week plan to lose about 18 pounds. Stocked up on veggies, oatmeal, canned tuna, soy, no-fat powdered milk, and plan to exercise daily (have hit the gym all two days since I started my new plan ;D) I do 15 minutes of vigorous weight training (quickly moving from machine to machine, for one set of each exercise), followed by 20 minutes on both the elliptical machine and the stationary bike. I even got my bike back in working order so I can use it to go to work and such.
My exercise "guru" is Tom Venuto (I like his book "Burn the Fat, Feed the Muscle"). Also started using an App my wife loves "MyFitnessPal". We'll see how things pan out.
Keeping steady. This morning: 229.6
Went to the gym and did vigorous exercise 7 out of the last 8 days. I ate 5 small, healthy meals a day to increase my metabolism while avoiding hunger and protein loss.
Weighed myself and found I have...gained 1.6KG ??? However, the gym has a pretty fancy "body analysis machine" and apparently I actually lost 1KG of fat and gained 1.5KG of muscle (my water weight is also up for some reason, which is fine). If these results are accurate, what looks at first like an epic fail is actually far better results than I had dreamed of. Hoping for the best!!
You gained water? I thought at the beginning of a diet water loss was significant (which leads to frustration for some people, because th weight loss does NOT keep going like that). I also tend to doubt that one can gain 1.5 kg of muscle in one or two weeks without dubious amounts or protein or anabole steroids...
So in your case I'd take this data with more than a pinch of salt...
Quote from: Jo498 on November 09, 2014, 05:23:35 AM
You gained water? I thought at the beginning of a diet water loss was significant (which leads to frustration for some people, because th weight loss does NOT keep going like that). I also tend to doubt that one can gain 1.5 kg of muscle in one or two weeks without dubious amounts or protein or anabole steroids...
So in your case I'd take this data with more than a pinch of salt...
Yeah, you may well be right. We'll see. Water loss is normal in "starvation diets", which I am not doing. I'm a pretty big guy, and my weight can fluctuate pretty dramatically from day to day or even within the same day, so hopefully that is all that is.
The stranger thing, to me, is the muscle and fat changes. Gaining muscle while losing fat is generally impossible in itself. Either you have excess calories, so you put on fat (or muscle) or have a deficit and lose one or a combination of both. However, according to the book I'm following, at the beginning of a diet/exercise regimen you can do both for a short while if you had more muscle weight previously that your body 'remembers'. I've got my fingers crossed that that is the case. Time will tell, I guess.
Quote from: Baklavaboy on November 09, 2014, 06:44:07 AM
Gaining muscle while losing fat is generally impossible in itself.
It's amazing how many people are unaware of this.
Quote from: Greg on November 09, 2014, 10:43:13 AM
It's amazing how many people are unaware of this.
From what I've read it is possible, though difficult :(. I've been eating a ton recently since I started going to the gym a couple of months ago. Whey is the cheapest and most effective way (pun not intended, rather unavoidable... ;)) to get protein, I've found. It's never a good idea to use in place of solid food, of course, but in addition to solid food. It seems expensive when buying it, but it really isn't when you consider how much protein-rich food costs. The local Rite-Aids have been having a huge sale for the month of November, actually.
Quote from: EigenUser on November 09, 2014, 12:58:27 PM
From what I've read it is possible, though difficult :(. I've been eating a ton recently since I started going to the gym a couple of months ago. Whey is the cheapest and most effective way (pun not intended, rather unavoidable... ;)) to get protein, I've found. It's never a good idea to use in place of solid food, of course, but in addition to solid food. It seems expensive when buying it, but it really isn't when you consider how much protein-rich food costs. The local Rite-Aids have been having a huge sale for the month of November, actually.
I read an article on bodybuilding.com a few years ago about a guy that experimented with a special diet and he lost fat while gaining muscle, but even he was surprised and the effect only lasted a few weeks. He didn't even recommend the diet to anyone.
Whey is definitely known to be good stuff; I haven't used it since my main struggle is having to eat tons of calories, rather than getting in protein (which is easy to get in with so many calories).
Quote from: Greg on November 09, 2014, 05:15:53 PM
I read an article on bodybuilding.com a few years ago about a guy that experimented with a special diet and he lost fat while gaining muscle, but even he was surprised and the effect only lasted a few weeks. He didn't even recommend the diet to anyone.
Whey is definitely known to be good stuff; I haven't used it since my main struggle is having to eat tons of calories, rather than getting in protein (which is easy to get in with so many calories).
I'd definitely recommend it, especially for after workouts since it is fast-acting. I also ordered a sample of casein which breaks down much slower (so it is good before bedtime or whenever you'll be without food for a long period of time). I liked it (bodybuilding.com brand -- cinnamon bun flavor ;D), so I got a 2-lb jug.
Lastly, I'd recommend listening to Messiaen's
Trois Petites Liturgies at the gym. The fast bookends of the third movement are perfect (well, until you find out how schmaltzy the lyrics are, but it is in French so it is easy to ignore). 8)
Quote from: EigenUser on November 10, 2014, 01:24:28 AM
I'd definitely recommend it, especially for after workouts since it is fast-acting. I also ordered a sample of casein which breaks down much slower (so it is good before bedtime or whenever you'll be without food for a long period of time). I liked it (bodybuilding.com brand -- cinnamon bun flavor ;D), so I got a 2-lb jug.
Lastly, I'd recommend listening to Messiaen's Trois Petites Liturgies at the gym. The fast bookends of the third movement are perfect (well, until you find out how schmaltzy the lyrics are, but it is in French so it is easy to ignore). 8)
Ha, will note. 8)
225.4 this morning.
So my trip to Atlanta did not fatten me! Even though twice we had pizza for lunch (Fellini's, and Mellow Mushroom).
Quote from: karlhenning on November 16, 2014, 08:27:47 AM
225.4 this morning.
So my trip to Atlanta did not fatten me! Even though twice we had pizza for lunch (Fellini's, and Mellow Mushroom).
There & Back Again: 225.4 this morning.
Quote from: karlhenning on December 05, 2014, 01:52:33 AM
There & Back Again: 225.4 this morning.
Holding steady! That is a victory of sorts...
My gym is undergoing remodeling and I can't use the fat/muscle measurement machine until next week. I'm quite frustrated. I really want to see if I'm making progress. Actually, I've had stomach virus the last few days, so didn't exercise at all, but not surprisingly my eating was both reduced and very healthy.
Hope you're feeling better!
Quote from: karlhenning on December 05, 2014, 06:29:56 AM
Hope you're feeling better!
I am! Thank you, Karl, for your concern. I actually made it back to the gym today and put in a pretty good show :)
My best friend is visiting at the end of the month. He is several years older than me (I'm 48), and he frequently jogs 15 miles
at a time. I can't really compete with him, but his coming is a definite incentive to work harder. His wife has been working out and has inspired my wife to work out more and lose weight as well, which has caused his wife to work even a bit more. We compete, kinda/sorta, but it's really a win/win situation.
A circle of positive reinforcement!
Despite AMS earlier in November and Thanksgiving, I am at 186. (I think 1lb lower than the last time I posted). I think I am going to stop trying to lose weight soon and just maintain this.
This morning: 223.8, which is a new low.
Nice work Karl!
I had a stomach virus followed by a cold. Haven't been to the gym in over 2 weeks. I still hack some in the morning, but will get back on exercise track today.
This morning, a new low: 222.8
Quote from: Mookalafalas on December 20, 2014, 05:19:53 PM
Nice work Karl!
I had a stomach virus followed by a cold. Haven't been to the gym in over 2 weeks. I still hack some in the morning, but will get back on exercise track today.
The same for me. Yesterday was the first time in 10 days I felt like myself. Time to drag it in.
Oof! Glad you're on the mend, Bill!
This morning: 224.2 . . . so the holidays are not doing me too much mischief!
one holiday to go! I think you're in the clear.
I am up to 189....although I am going to say it's water weight from Chinese buffet rather than gaining 5 pounds.
I had some health-nut friends visit and they peer-pressured me into doing the Les mills 1 hour "body combat" workout on two different days while they stayed with us. Sore all over, but inspired to go right back to the gym for a great workout today. Wish people weren't giving me boxes of chocolates and candy for New Years :'(
Quote from: karlhenning on December 31, 2014, 02:38:17 AM
This morning: 224.2 . . . so the holidays are not doing me too much mischief!
Excellent!
Quote from: Mookalafalas on December 31, 2014, 07:28:15 AM
I had some health-nut friends visit and they peer-pressured me into doing the Les mills 1 hour "body combat" workout on two different days while they stayed with us. Sore all over, but inspired to go right back to the gym for a great workout today. Wish people weren't giving me boxes of chocolates and candy for New Years :'(
I know! My mom made this vanilla-maple custard -- some kind of French dessert. She described it to a friend as "very high-fat cream". ??? And I'm trying to eat better (though, I've had a good diet for the past couple of years)!
I've been going to the gym regularly since this past August. I set a goal for the 1st day of 2015 to be able to bench a certain (modest) amount for 8 reps in good form. I passed it with 12 reps today! And then I got stuck ::)! But I had the safety bars set to chest-level (since I don't have a spotter over Winter break), so it didn't matter. BUT, I don't give the credit to myself. It's all because I was listening to the 1st movement of Mahler 6!
Quote from: EigenUser on December 31, 2014, 03:04:30 PM
It's all because I was listening to the 1st movement of Mahler 6!
See? Once again proves my point: Mahler was just a trouble maker!
Woo-hoo! This morning: 221.8, a new low again!
Karl, I've forgotten; how tall are you?
I gained 15 pounds in 2014, so a simple resolution: lose 15 in '15.
Good luck Brian!
Quote from: Mookalafalas on December 31, 2014, 04:51:14 PM
See? Once again proves my point: Mahler was just a trouble maker!
Indeed! I just came across this. Look what he has gotten people doing at the gym! (http://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/detail/view/name/sledgehammer-swings)
I wish my gym had the equipment for this. I'd have to bring the score, though (which I do have :D).
Quote from: EigenUser on January 05, 2015, 03:18:11 PM
Indeed! I just came across this. Look what he has gotten people doing at the gym! (http://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/detail/view/name/sledgehammer-swings)
I wish my gym had the equipment for this. I'd have to bring the score, though (which I do have :D).
Nice! Maybe the person who came up with that exercise was a Mahlerian. ;D
Quote from: EigenUser on January 05, 2015, 03:18:11 PM
Indeed! I just came across this. Look what he has gotten people doing at the gym! (http://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/detail/view/name/sledgehammer-swings)
I wish my gym had the equipment for this. I'd have to bring the score, though (which I do have :D).
I think I'm missing something. When I click the link there is a tutorial on hitting a large tire with a sledgehammer :-\
TD: I was derailed from exercise first by two bouts of illness, and then house guests over the holidays. I started getting back to the gym, and just got a new case of the flu! (My son passed it to my wife who gave it to me.) Anyway, these are just obstacles. My determination is as solid as ever >:( >:( >:(
Quote from: Mookalafalas on January 05, 2015, 03:50:32 PM
I think I'm missing something. When I click the link there is a tutorial on hitting a large tire with a sledgehammer :-\
TD: I was derailed from exercise first by two bouts of illness, and then house guests over the holidays. I started getting back to the gym, and just got a new case of the flu! (My son passed it to my wife who gave it to me.) Anyway, these are just obstacles. My determination is as solid as ever >:( >:( >:(
Skip to 1:07:10
https://www.youtube.com/v/Zvfh_mjPLlQ
Here's an interesting comparison video:
https://www.youtube.com/v/4QLqwaQjYjI
Ah, OK. This makes more sense...I guess ;)
I'm furious. Furious.
I get up at 3:15AM, have breakfast, leave at 4:35AM for the gym (opens at 5AM, about a 15 minute drive). I'm looking forward to it. Back/biceps day + cardio. I have my pre-workout supplement in the car, play Schoenberg's Chamber Symphony, walk up to the door all pumped, and see a sign:
Due to inclement weather, the gym is opening at 7:30AM today.
:blank: :blank: :blank:
>:D >:D >:D
We got nothing for snow. Nothing -- like an inch yesterday afternoon (which I was already upset about, because I love snow). There was no reason to open late today. I have no idea what my university was thinking. We had some pretty serious icy roads the second week of January and they didn't close then. If they were closed then I would have been annoyed, but I would have also understood. Not opening today was just stupid. By yesterday afternoon they were already calling off much of the snowstorm for northern Delaware. The only thing on the sidewalks and roads today was salt. Tons of it.
My apartment is 15 minutes away and in the woods (literally) and on a huge hill. Two weeks ago there was a five-car pileup on the two-lane steep, windy road leading up to it (not surprising, as I've slid down a few times myself) and it was closed off. If that road is safe (which it was today), I can't imagine why others wouldn't be.
#firstworldproblems
Anyone use creatine? EigenUser?
I'm just now strongly considering starting to use it and feel like I should have used this a few years ago... wtf was I thinking. I did know about the drawbacks of having to use it without ever stopping, but I'm consistent with everything, so it's not a problem. What I didn't realize was that it was so cheap. I think the only reason why I didn't use it was because I thought it would be an extra $40 a month, but it's more like $3-5 month. ???
$20 for a pack that'll last you 200 days if you don't load. ???
Quote from: Greg on February 13, 2015, 07:52:03 AM
Anyone use creatine? EigenUser?
I'm just now strongly considering starting to use it and feel like I should have used this a few years ago... wtf was I thinking. I did know about the drawbacks of having to use it without ever stopping, but I'm consistent with everything, so it's not a problem. What I didn't realize was that it was so cheap. I think the only reason why I didn't use it was because I thought it would be an extra $40 a month, but it's more like $3-5 month. ???
$20 for a pack that'll last you 200 days if you don't load. ???
On and off. It is found in red meat and I don't eat red meat (only fish), so that's pretty much my reason. If I had to pick between that and whey, whey wins no contest (but that's also because I have difficulty getting enough protein to begin with).
Drink a lot of water (which you -- or anyone -- should be, anyways!). This is what I have (200 servings for $15 + shipping): http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/bodybuilding-supplements/micronized-creatine.html
Also, I wouldn't get the stuff that comes flavored with a bunch of sugar. I got it once by accident. The sugar is good after a workout, but I just don't like the idea of having all sorts of unknown sugars mixed in (made me feel kind of sick a few times). I use it with Gatorade so I know what is in it.
Quote from: EigenUser on February 13, 2015, 08:53:39 AM
On and off. It is found in red meat and I don't eat red meat (only fish), so that's pretty much my reason. If I had to pick between that and whey, whey wins no contest (but that's also because I have difficulty getting enough protein to begin with).
Drink a lot of water (which you -- or anyone -- should be, anyways!). This is what I have (200 servings for $15 + shipping): http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/bodybuilding-supplements/micronized-creatine.html
Also, I wouldn't get the stuff that comes flavored with a bunch of sugar. I got it once by accident. The sugar is good after a workout, but I just don't like the idea of having all sorts of unknown sugars mixed in (made me feel kind of sick a few times). I use it with Gatorade so I know what is in it.
Awesome. I'm trying to decide between that one and this: http://www.amazon.com/BulkSupplements-Micronized-Creatine-Monohydrate-Kilogram/dp/B00E9M4XEE/ref=pd_rhf_eetyp_s_cp_3_JJ31?ie=UTF8&refRID=1CAFM9F07E33FXRERA9W
since 2,317 reviews with a 5 star average is pretty convincing by itself.
Quote from: karlhenning on January 03, 2015, 07:43:20 AM
Woo-hoo! This morning: 221.8, a new low again!
This morning: 220.4
A new low this morning: 219.6
That 1 just sort of snuck in to the tens column; must be all the snow I've been shoveling . . . .
Quote from: karlhenning on February 21, 2015, 04:38:19 AM
A new low this morning: 219.6
That 1 just sort of snuck in to the tens column; must be all the snow I've been shoveling . . . .
Coolness, Karl!
Cheers, Bill!
And a new low this morning: 218.8
Quote from: karlhenning on March 04, 2015, 01:54:43 AM
And a new low this morning: 218.8
Karl, haven't heard from you in 6 weeks. Is no news bad news?
Alas, i have drifted back up to 205. I
have been exercising some, and am fitter before. I can do more cardio and chinups, for example, but the old body weight isn't going in the right way.
I've decided on a vigorous but sensible 5 week program to lose 10 pounds.
OK, I'm off to the gym :)
So, what I learned recently was that no matter how much I want to believe there's no such thing as being too busy to go to the gym... there's such a thing...
Quote from: Greg on April 16, 2015, 06:27:17 PM
So, what I learned recently was that no matter how much I want to believe there's no such thing as being too busy to go to the gym... there's such a thing...
What do you mean?
It's going to be 79F and sunny tomorrow. There is one of those fitness-station parks about five minutes from my apartment, so maybe I'll go there (do pull-ups, etc.).
Quote from: EigenUser on April 17, 2015, 12:07:33 AM
What do you mean?
I believe he means he's too busy to go to the gym.
Quote from: Mookalafalas on April 17, 2015, 12:16:39 AM
I believe he means he's too busy to go to the gym.
Oh, I totally misread that as "too busy
at the gym".
Get up at 3:15AM like I do, then ;D (I'm on my way out to the gym in 15 minutes).
Quote from: Mookalafalas on April 16, 2015, 06:15:57 PM
Karl, haven't heard from you in 6 weeks. Is no news bad news?
I've just ponged about in the 220-225 range for several weeks.
Overweight is the new normal weight!
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/apr/08/fat-healthy-dieting-health-reasons-overweight-lifespan-weight
Quote from: MN Dave on April 17, 2015, 04:21:29 AM
Overweight is the new normal weight!
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/apr/08/fat-healthy-dieting-health-reasons-overweight-lifespan-weight
Food ;) for thought . . . .
(I can still stand to shed 15 lb.)
Quote from: MN Dave on April 17, 2015, 04:21:29 AM
Overweight is the new normal weight!
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/apr/08/fat-healthy-dieting-health-reasons-overweight-lifespan-weight
QuoteCategories such as "overweight" and "obese" are neither meaningful nor interesting, but they are the terms used to frame the discussion at present. Now could be the right time for the Health at Every Size (HAES) movement to get the recognition it deserves. It is an approach that grounds the concept of health in respect, though it doesn't even demand that everyone be healthy, something which should be taken into account if we are to be mindful of illness and disability. Instead of prioritising weight loss, it considers wider factors, such as quality of life, sense of wellbeing and the psychological benefits that come with a less punitive approach to diet and exercise.
Less punishment???!!!
Quote from: karlhenning on April 17, 2015, 04:23:15 AM
Food ;) for thought . . . .
(I can still stand to shed 15 lb.)
QuoteHealth researchers and professionals who have become disenchanted with the failure – and dangers – of a traditional weight-centred approach to health are increasingly adopting the Health At Every Size (HAES) philosophy. HAES promotes tested and achievable ways to optimise health for individuals and populations. It does this at an individual level by focusing on eating, activity and body acceptance. Of course, food and exercise are old targets in the health promoter's arsenal, and psychological factors influencing dieting behaviours are well-known. So what's new? The crucial difference is that HAES emphasises the benefits of sound nutrition, active living and body confidence as ends in themselves, not as a route to weight management.
I feel good just reading that.
QuoteNow, there are many reasons why BMI is not a brilliant way to assess unhealthiness; it doesn't take into account different types of fat in the body (visceral fat is linked to many more health problems than subcutaneous fat, for example), or indeed an individual's proportions of muscle, bone and fat. This means a fit muscly athlete could be in the same BMI as an overweight person who has less muscle but more fat. But, it's a cheap and easy measurement to take, so lots of studies use it.
Not coincidentally, the missus asked me yesterday what BMI actually means, and of course, I had no answer 8)
I'm going to bop around between 210 and 220.
Quote from: karlhenning on April 17, 2015, 05:11:16 AM
Not coincidentally, the missus asked me yesterday what BMI actually means, and of course, I had no answer 8)
I mean, I knew the words for which the acronym stands, but I stood a better chance of remembering the formula for determining Easter Sunday than "your weight in kilograms divided by your height in metres, squared." Somebody thought this was a brilliant idea, right?
Quote from: MN Dave on April 17, 2015, 05:12:33 AM
I'm going to bop around between 210 and 220.
My goal is to bop there later this year.
I know you walk a lot; I suppose you don't hold back at the dinner table?
Quote from: MN Dave on April 17, 2015, 05:15:04 AM
I know you walk a lot; I suppose you don't hold back at the dinner table?
I suppose I should be more mindful of the intake, yes.
Quote from: karlhenning on April 17, 2015, 05:21:05 AM
I suppose I should be more mindful of the intake, yes.
Yep, that's the other half of the equation.
And (not to state the obvious) my weight trends down when I am more alert.
Quote from: karlhenning on April 17, 2015, 05:41:08 AM
And (not to state the obvious) my weight trends down when I am more alert.
Exactly.
Thanks for slapping me. I needed that 8)
Quote from: karlhenning on April 17, 2015, 05:45:27 AM
Thanks for slapping me. I needed that 8)
Didn't mean to slap. :)
Quote from: MN Dave on April 17, 2015, 05:46:49 AM
Didn't mean to slap. :)
No, no, there's an "it's complicated" aspect to the matter, but I own your point, and it remains always up to me.
I am up 6 pounds since March! Up to 192, not horrible. Been eating too much Indian buffet for lunch.....Also, being sick last week didn't help at all.
Not worried, though. I lost 80 lbs before. 6 pounds should be easy :P
And, since our Dave is buddying up with me!— this morning: 220.8
Quote from: karlhenning on April 18, 2015, 07:08:31 AM
And, since our Dave is buddying up with me!— this morning: 220.8
You're ahead of me, I think; I let it get a little out of hand. Still at the bottom of the overweight category however--and that's healthy these days, right?
Quote from: MN Dave on April 18, 2015, 08:07:35 AM
You're ahead of me, I think; I let it get a little out of hand. Still at the bottom of the overweight category however--and that's healthy these days, right?
I think the takeaway from the article you linked is: do we feel good about where we are, how we're doing?
Or: one of the takeaways.
I was happy with myself today. A lot of energy, for some reason. I planned to deadlift 350lbs for 1 rep, but managed to do 5 reps.
After 1.5 hours of lifting at the gym I spontaneously decided in the car on the way home to stop at the park and run a mile on the trail. It was too nice outside not to.
To make it GMG-relevant, I will also add that I was listening to Ameriques for the deadlifts (heavy music) and Tippett's Piano Concerto when running (pastoral quality seemed to fit the rolling hills of the park ;D).
Quote from: EigenUser on April 19, 2015, 03:28:04 PM
To make it GMG-relevant, I will also add that I was listening to Ameriques for the deadlifts (heavy music)
Perfect! 8)
This morning: 216.4, a new low.
Doing the right things! Now, to reinforce those right things . . . .
Quote from: karlhenning on June 24, 2015, 01:44:20 AM
This morning: 216.4, a new low.
Doing the right things! Now, to reinforce those right things . . . .
Nice!
I've been a lazy bastard myself and am hanging at 224.
214
Not pleased at all.
Very quiet around here...
I just got back under 200 pounds for the first time in a long time after climbing up to about 210. Lots of salmon, chicken breast, vegetables and legumes on the menu. Hope to keep it up!
Conquer!
My goal is to be a normal weight and have abs. (And maybe eventually, even more)
Seems my strategy of trying to get big and then lose the fat is too hard, since past a certain weight I just don't gain weight no matter how hard I try. So I might have to lose 20-30 pounds to get my abs to show and then try to build up again while gaining as little fat as possible. The painful thing is that means I would have to go through a period of being too skinny in the meantime.
So far, what I'm thinking is that to lose as much fat as possible without losing muscle includes:
-Keep drinking tons of water
-Keep working out regularly
-Keep getting in protein
-Cut out as many saturated fats as possible (and sugar)
I would estimate by bf% is about 16% after looking at examples. So I want to bring it down to 13% at the very least.
Last time I lost weight intentionally, I lost 15 pounds in about 2 months and went from borderline chunky to nearly having abs. All I did was drink skim milk instead of 2% milk, which I had been drinking before. I didn't notice any loss in strength or muscle, so probably doing that would be a good idea (and I could substitute almonds for the crackers I eat every day).
Quote from: Greg on September 18, 2015, 09:15:17 AMI would estimate by bf% is about 16% after looking at examples. So I want to bring it down to 13% at the very least.
Why?
Quote from: North Star on September 18, 2015, 09:21:24 AM
Why?
Specifically 13% because as a rule of thumb that's the bf% you need to see your abs (without straining). I have a six-pack if I laugh, but that just doesn't cut it IMO. I may go lower than 13%, though, but not too much.
Lost 5 kg of weight the past weeks. Now weighting 94 kg. Want to lose some more kgs.
Quote from: Henk on December 07, 2015, 11:41:48 PM
Lost 5 kg of weight the past weeks. Now weighting 94 kg. Want to lose some more kgs.
Hey, Henk, nice to see you on here.
I've been pretty good since February, but really gung ho for the last 2 months. I've been going to the gym 4-5 times a week, weights and lots of cardio, very healthy eating on weekdays, some living it up on the weekends. Anyway, Body fat% is down to 21.5% from a peak of 30% in February. These days beans and Greek Yogurt are my friends... I can wear all my old clothes again!! I knew I was wise to keep them 8)
Good job.
A bit doubts about my overall health condition. Need to get fit. Eating nuts, fruit and vegetables. Vitamine D and vitamine C pills. Some exercise, but not much.
Quote from: Henk on December 08, 2015, 04:00:07 AM
Good job.
A bit doubts about my overall health condition. Need to get fit. Eating nuts, fruit and vegetables. Vitamine D and vitamine C pills. Some exercise, but not much.
Well, it seems to be working for you!
Quote from: Mookalafalas on December 08, 2015, 04:45:15 AM
Well, it seems to be working for you!
Quite a big belly. The photo is when I weight approximately 100 kg.
A doctor (especially one who is a GP) would probably tell me I'm overweight. Nonsense. In fact, unless that doctor was particularly heavy I could make a reasonable attempt at bench pressing him/her.
Right now I'm 167lbs (about 75kg?) at 5' 8" (172cm or thereabouts) and just under 15% body fat. I know I can reduce that last figure by another percent or two, but I'm already happy with how I look, my clothes fit well and I feel great. Toots tells me I'm stronger than most men half my age (how does she know this? ;D) and is fond of sashaying over and squeezing my biceps while giving me a 'come hither' look, which as trivial as that is in the greater scheme of things is still so cool.
I know it isn't easy to eat/exercise/rest like an adult (because that's what the required behaviour is - adult) on a consistent basis, however it's definitely worth it. And while it's good and noble to take care of your health if you've a family to look after or have people in your life you hold close and dear, do it for yourself.
Quote from: NikF on December 10, 2015, 11:33:43 PM
A doctor (especially one who is a GP) would probably tell me I'm overweight. Nonsense. In fact, unless that doctor was particularly heavy I could make a reasonable attempt at bench pressing him/her.
Right now I'm 167lbs (about 75kg?) at 5' 8" (172cm or thereabouts) and just under 15% body fat.
Yeah, those figures result in a BMI that is at the limit of normal weight and overweight, but you might as well say that a portrait photographer would think that black people are underexposed.
Not as dramatic as some people here, but for most of the year I maintained a normal weight of about 58kg (~128 lbs, I think?) through constant vigilance. However over the last couple of months, due to stress, I stopped monitoring my diet and failed to exercise as often as I should, and today found that I weigh 65kg (~143 lbs). Not a catastrophe quite yet, but def time to get back to the gym before it gets worse >.>
Quote from: North Star on December 10, 2015, 11:59:20 PM
Yeah, those figures result in a BMI that is at the limit of normal weight and overweight, but you might as well say that a portrait photographer would think that black people are underexposed.
That's a good way to put it.
Isn't the BMI of some use when considering the weight of a nation or population as a whole?
Quote from: NikF on December 11, 2015, 04:20:09 AM
That's a good way to put it.
Isn't the BMI of some use when considering the weight of a nation or population as a whole?
I'm sure it's a decent statistical tool for larger populations where the amount of e.g. athletes is not skewing the numbers. It should be remembered, though, that it dates from mid-19th century, and nutrition and society have changed a good bit since then, and these days we have better ways to measure what the BMI tries to, i.e. body fat percentage.
Quote from: North Star on December 11, 2015, 04:34:08 AM
I'm sure it's a decent statistical tool for larger populations where the amount of e.g. athletes is not skewing the numbers. It should be remembered, though, that it dates from mid-19th century, and nutrition and society have changed a good bit since then, and these days we have better ways to measure what the BMI tries to, i.e. body fat percentage.
I'd no idea at all about how dated it was or the impact of changes in nutrition upon it. And to think, so many doctors are still using it as a prime tool. Wow.
Quote from: NikF on December 10, 2015, 11:33:43 PM
Right now I'm 167lbs (about 75kg?) at 5' 8" (172cm or thereabouts)
That is exactly where I was and should be (weight and same height), but I've gone back to some bad eating habits. I've gained about 1/2 of what I lost a year and a half ago. :( Oh well, I know
I can do it and what
needs to be done, I'm just having trouble with the motivation.
Quote from: ChamberNut on December 11, 2015, 09:31:55 AM
That is exactly where I was and should be (weight and same height), but I've gone back to some bad eating habits. I've gained about 1/2 of what I lost a year and a half ago. :( Oh well, I know I can do it and what needs to be done, I'm just having trouble with the motivation.
I'm sure that yourself (and also the poster
amw) will get back to where you want to be. Try not to get despondent about it. It's a lifelong change you're putting in place (rather than simply a diet) and so a few hiccups are to be expected.
Quote from: NikF on December 11, 2015, 01:21:36 PM
I'm sure that yourself (and also the poster amw) will get back to where you want to be. Try not to get despondent about it. It's a lifelong change you're putting in place (rather than simply a diet) and so a few hiccups are to be expected.
Wise, sound advice, Nik.
I had a big meltdown with my girlfriend over this.
Quote from: ChamberNut on August 05, 1974, 05:29:35 PM
I had a big meltdown with my girlfriend over this.
Hope you both managed to successfully resolve the issue.
Quote from: NikF on December 11, 2015, 01:21:36 PM
... and so a few hiccups are to be expected.
Hic! Hic! Hic!
Strangely enough when making my previous post in this thread I was tempted to add something about the ups and downs of exercise, however I decided against it. Huh.
When everything's in place (and has been for some time) including training/eating/sleeping like an adult, sometimes you'll have a session where nothing is there.
I ran/trundled to the gym. It took me about 15 minutes and the traffic lights were in my favour all the way there, which means my pace never slowed and so my blood was flowing nicely. Into the gym and a series of warm up stretches for another 15 minutes. So far it was all good. Then what I think of as my transition from warm up into weights; 3 x 10 bodyweight pushups with 30 seconds between each set. Still, it's all good. Then three sets of push ups with my feet elevated for 1 x 12, 1 x 10 and 1 x 8 with 45 seconds between sets. Usually at the end of the last eight I start to feel it, but today I got to four and there was nothing left. I walked around for a few minutes, found a bench and barbell and warmed up with about 110lbs (50kg?) and I struggled. Past experience tells me it was just one of those days. Sure, I could have rolled back the weights and got at least a little work done, but I'd rather listen to my body.
If that ever happens to you (and chances are that it will) don't get discouraged. Just think of it as a rest day. Experience tells me that by end of the week I'll be back to normal and destroy all the lifts. The only negative thing I can say is that it has happened more often as I've got older. But that's a fact of life and so I'll just deal with it.
Quote from: NikF on December 14, 2015, 07:49:30 AM
Hope you both managed to successfully resolve the issue.
Yes, all is well. :)
Quote from: ChamberNut on December 14, 2015, 09:39:30 AM
Yes, all is well. :)
Good stuff.
In other news: today was leg and back day, which I decided would take the form of running intervals in the park, coupled with pullups on one of the trees. All was well and after (slowly) running home I indulged myself in a few bicep curls with the assistance of Toots (I'll word this carefully... Stand facing each other, she places her arms around my neck and her legs around my waist, then I place my hands under her
popka and curl her up in a controlled manner, squeeze my biceps at the top, and then lower her down. 4 sets of 8 does the trick) and that's followed by a shower, then some chicken and lemon couscous, pint of whole milk, and finally rest, music, and feel great.
After the excesses of the festive period I weigh one kg heavier at 76.5 (about 169lbs) and I'm sure I can feel it during pull ups, but that'll go over the next week or so. And taking everything into consideration (including another birthday passing) I really can't complain at all.
Renewed application: 232.0
This morning's scale: 231.4
Weighed in at 137.7 lbs (62.5 kg) yesterday. My weight hasn't significantly changed at all in months, except for hormonal fluctuations obviously. I've also been eating less than 1000 calories most days. Rarely exercise properly, which could obviously play a role in why I'm not losing weight. But even though my BMI is within "normal" range, I'm wondering if there's something wrong. (Or maybe I just need to re-evaluate my "ideal weight".)
Since this is a music forum, the "Maria Callas diet" does REALLY work! It is maddeningly slow but very effective.
Some background - I have always been a slow metabolizer coming from a family with late-onset diabetes and heart disease. Any pounds lost from nerve-racking starvation diets were restored quickly, sometimes within days.
Many years ago, I went to a goofy naturopath who put me on a candida-busting diet, restricting almost all carbs. For the first time, I actually began to feel better and actually lose weight. (Except for some other trash he suggested this actually worked.)
Fast forward to the present, the Specific Carbohydrate Diet tailored to the needs of unhappy tummies, cuts out grains, sugar and other complex carbs. As a nice by-product I started shedding those unwanted pounds to the extent I was able to wear stuff I thought I'd never put on again or at least without much difficulty.
It took Maria Callas over a year to lose about 100 lbs. She did it mainly by eating protein and low carbohydrate veggies. The SCD permits fruit within reason. I actually ordered and bought from Amazon the book penned by its author Elaine Gottschall. The purpose was not to lose weight but cure her daughter who was scheduled for intestinal surgery in the 1950's. By chance, she found a doctor who treated celiac children in the 1920's, Sidney Haas, who fed these kids bananas to the horror of his colleagues. But they got well, not from milk sops.
I mention all this since maybe there is someone who may be interested in this regime. There are plenty of websites about this diet such as the one continuing the Gottschall system and SCD Lifestyle.
Splendid, zb!
:)
Thread Duty: I have been fairly steady at 230-232 for some months. Still hoping to break through.
At the moment I'm around 170lbs/77kg at about 5'8"/173cm. The reason for my current weight is because in November I was to take part in an amateur boxing tournament for those aged in their 50s. I wanted to compete as a middleweight (152–165lbs) and so I've been eating and training for that weight class. But now my plans have changed and so I'm going to ditch 12 or 15lbs.
Quote from: NikF on October 11, 2016, 04:59:23 AM
At the moment I'm around 170lbs/77kg at about 5'8"/173cm. The reason for my current weight is because in November I was to take part in an amateur boxing tournament for those aged in their 50s. I wanted to compete as a middleweight (152–165lbs) and so I've been eating and training for that weight class. But now my plans have changed and so I'm going to ditch 12 or 15lbs.
I've been meaning to update this. I now weigh about 159 lbs. More importantly, I can easily wear trousers with a 32" waist again.
I know that age is going to catch up with me eventually, but I want to feel as good as possible for as long as I can.
I have been unable to keep losing weight or keep it off. Started reading Gary Taubes and Nina Teicholz--both science journalists that go back through the last 60 years research on dieting and weight loss and find that some grave errors were made, and never corrected.
Anyway, Exactly one month ago I switched to an Atkins type diet---the exact OPPOSITE of most of what I had been trying to do. Now I eat lots of oil and fat at every meal, lots of eggs, cheese, pork, beef, chicken (with skin on!) and fish. I cook with butter and put whole cream in my coffee. Also a lot of green vegetables, but no other carbs, including no beans, fruit, rice, or potatoes. I'm never hungry. I've lost 5.1 kilos. I'm sure quite a lot of that is water weight, but I feel great! You would be crazy to believe me over everything we've ever heard our whole lives, but if you are curious, Google Taubes or go to Amazon. Read his "Why We Get Fat", or his new one on Sugar. The Teicholz is also good. It will blow your mind.
Quote from: Mookalafalas on January 18, 2017, 06:25:32 PM
I have been unable to keep losing weight or keep it off. Started reading Gary Taubes and Nina Teicholz--both science journalists that go back through the last 60 years research on dieting and weight loss and find that some grave errors were made, and never corrected.
Anyway, Exactly one month ago I switched to an Atkins type diet---the exact OPPOSITE of most of what I had been trying to do. Now I eat lots of oil and fat at every meal, lots of eggs, cheese, pork, beef, chicken (with skin on!) and fish. I cook with butter and put whole cream in my coffee. Also a lot of green vegetables, but no other carbs, including no beans, fruit, rice, or potatoes. I'm never hungry. I've lost 5.1 kilos. I'm sure quite a lot of that is water weight, but I feel great! You would be crazy to believe me over everything we've ever heard our whole lives, but if you are curious, Google Taubes or go to Amazon. Read his "Why We Get Fat", or his new one on Sugar. The Teicholz is also good. It will blow your mind.
Good work. Enjoy how you feel. :)
Quote from: Mookalafalas on January 18, 2017, 06:25:32 PM
I have been unable to keep losing weight or keep it off. Started reading Gary Taubes and Nina Teicholz--both science journalists that go back through the last 60 years research on dieting and weight loss and find that some grave errors were made, and never corrected.
Anyway, Exactly one month ago I switched to an Atkins type diet---the exact OPPOSITE of most of what I had been trying to do. Now I eat lots of oil and fat at every meal, lots of eggs, cheese, pork, beef, chicken (with skin on!) and fish. I cook with butter and put whole cream in my coffee. Also a lot of green vegetables, but no other carbs, including no beans, fruit, rice, or potatoes. I'm never hungry. I've lost 5.1 kilos. I'm sure quite a lot of that is water weight, but I feel great! You would be crazy to believe me over everything we've ever heard our whole lives, but if you are curious, Google Taubes or go to Amazon. Read his "Why We Get Fat", or his new one on Sugar. The Teicholz is also good. It will blow your mind.
Will investigate, thanks.
The no potatoes would be problematic at home. Personally, I would be fine with removing potatoes from my diet entirely. But the potato is iconic comfort food for the Russians in my life (the last time I tried putting my foot down and asked that I eat no potatoes, feelings were bruised).
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 19, 2017, 05:18:46 AM
The no potatoes would be problematic at home. Personally, I would be fine with removing potatoes from my diet entirely. But the potato is iconic comfort food for the Russians in my life (the last time I tried putting my foot down and asked that I eat no potatoes, feelings were bruised).
Potatoes are actually good food. They have potassium and are not dense carbs. So per volume they don't have as many calories as grains. Sweet potatoes and yams are my faves.
Tendency to high cholesterol may be a limiting factor in high fat diets.
There's nothing wrong with potatoes. Rice and pasta are more problematic, but carbs are a part of a healthy diet. And to take out the same amount of calories, you have to cut away three times as much on the potatoes, compared to accomplishing the same cut with beef. And then you need to get your dietary fibers, potassium and vitamin C from something else.
Thank you both; I already feel better about potatoes in my diet. And goodness knows, Mamochka knows how to cook 'em :)
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 19, 2017, 05:18:46 AM
The no potatoes would be problematic at home. Personally, I would be fine with removing potatoes from my diet entirely. But the potato is iconic comfort food for the Russians in my life (the last time I tried putting my foot down and asked that I eat no potatoes, feelings were bruised).
Many years ago I remember coming home and walking into the kitchen and finding almost every available surface covered with pirozhki - most containing potato and mushrooms. :)
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 19, 2017, 08:43:16 AM
Thank you both; I already feel better about potatoes in my diet. And goodness knows, Mamochka knows how to cook 'em :)
Limiting rice and white bread intake would probably have more impact than potato, unless you eat some sort of fried potato every day. But then potato isn't the only problem in that case! :)
I'm fairly reserved with rice, white bread & pasta. Which is to say, point well taken 8)
If your weight is pretty much where you want it, potatoes, beans, rice, etc. are great foods. I'm doing what is called "Low carb, High fat" eating. It's referred to a lot as the ketogenic diet. I have to keep my total carbs at around 20mg a day, which is VERY low. The idea is you switch your whole system from burning sugars (from carbs), to burning fats only. The good thing is I can eat til I'm full at meals and have been losing a little over a kilo a week, with little exercise. It's not a new diet, by any means (it's sort of the way we ate every day when I was a kid--a central meat dish with vegetable accompaniment), but everything in this way of eating was demonized by various American health organizations starting in the 1960s--that is, when we switched from meat and animal fats to carbs and vegetable oils--and the American epidemic of obesity and type 2 diabetes exploded.
Here I'm trying anew.
So last week I was on vacation. (Before which I was merely in something of a holding pattern.) I spent the week with my old mate Paul. Paul and Jacquie are non-militant mostly-vegans, but, when I visit, they set that aside and the time is considered a festive departure. It does mean (without any aspersion) that it were difficult to discipline my diet (and what kind of vacation is it, if I am logging every morsel, and counting?)
That is mere backstory, and not whingeing. Thus, when I stood on the scales first thing I returned to Woburn, Wonder of the North, it read 239.0; which is an improvement over a year ago, but not at all any dramatic improvement; but, the day before I left for the Sunshine State, I weighed about 235.
As to today: I have gotten into a good, sustainable daily rhythm of both minding very closely what I eat (in fact, planning the day's diet in a way both realistic, and focused on the goal) and seeing to it that I get a good half-hour's walk (or more) every day.
Not really surprisingly, the scales has logged a reduction each morning since my return, and this morning reads 232.8.
I know that it won't always be a straight line, but at the moment, I am pleased and highly motivated.
Amazing coincidence you revived this thread just today. Last year I was doing great til 6 weeks of vacation and just threw the whole diet out the window. I've been in a holding patter since then, keeping at around 200lb. Just decided to buckle down again the last couple of days. Got a yogurt maker and dusted off my "Atkins diet" book today and giving it another go. I want to get down to 182lb.
Conquer!
Staying within my 201-209 range and have been for some time. It's all in the calories, yo.
Quote from: MN Dave on August 30, 2018, 05:04:45 AM
Staying within my 201-209 range and have been for some time. It's all in the calories, yo.
You are an inspiration, Sir.
This morning: 232.2
I'll take it.
just broke the 200lb barrier. It's good to see 199 again. Right now I'm psyched and self-control is easy. But how long will it last? We have an all you can eat barbecue in the neighborhood, and it includes Haagen-Das and a terrific brand of Italian ice-cream, four flavors of each. That place can wipe out weeks of consistent dieting in 90 minutes of pleasure ???
Anyway, things are progressing smoothly so far. I was about 210 when I got back from Europe one month ago, and I've come this far without exercise or hunger pangs...
Quote from: Mookalafalas on September 05, 2018, 06:00:34 AM
just broke the 200lb barrier. It's good to see 199 again. Right now I'm psyched and self-control is easy.
Huzzah!
My scales this morning: 231.0
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 05, 2018, 06:11:41 AM
Huzzah!
My scales this morning: 231.0
8)
It's nice to be heading in the right direction.
Indeed!
This morning: 227.8
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 08, 2018, 04:21:32 AM
This morning: 227.8
Damn, Karl, you are killing it! Keep up the good work. I've been at 89.5Kg for a while. Need to break the plateau. My wife brought home a bunch of durian tonight, and I couldn't resist. It's a kind of fruit, but tastes like heaven (and smells like a dead animal).
I never noticed this thread before - a kind of GMG 'Weight Watchers'.
I'm trying to lose weight as I'm only 5ft 5 and a half inches tall but weigh 14 stone which is about two stone too heavy. I'm taking more exercise and just returned from swimming 30 lengths of the local swimming pool 0:). I'm trying to go swimming most days. The only other sport I liked was football (soccer) but I'm well past that now.
Earlier today my wife said that I looked thinner in the face, which is encouraging.
If I continue at this rate I should be able to audition as Legolas the Elf in the forthcoming TV production of Lord of the Rings.
8)
Quote from: Mookalafalas on September 08, 2018, 08:06:59 AM
[...] My wife brought home a bunch of durian tonight, and I couldn't resist. It's a kind of fruit, but tastes like heaven (and smells like a dead animal).
Some really go for that! ;)
A year-ish ago, my wife was curious about jackfruit, and we picked one up on sale at the H-Mart. (I searched on Google, and see that it is not nearly the same as durian.) Delicious, but not to be overindulged in, as it trends to a laxative.
Quote from: vandermolen on September 08, 2018, 10:25:18 AM
I never noticed this thread before - a kind of GMG 'Weight Watchers'.
I'm trying to lose weight as I'm only 5ft 5 and a half inches tall but weigh 14 stone which is about two stone too heavy. I'm taking more exercise and just returned from swimming 30 lengths of the local swimming pool 0:). I'm trying to go swimming most days. The only other sport I liked was football (soccer) but I'm well past that now.
Earlier today my wife said that I looked thinner in the face, which is encouraging.
Good on ya!
Keep up the good work, folks.
Quote from: MN Dave on September 10, 2018, 05:02:06 AM
Keep up the good work, folks.
Dude!
This morning: 227.2
That's nice you keep moving down. I've been stuck for a few days. I'm not disheartened, though. I actually got my gym membership going again and have exercised 4 days in a row. I know that may not sound like much, but 5 days in a row is the most I've ever exercised in my life, and I've only done that once since high school gym class back in 1981...
Good on ya!
After a dead-cat bounce 8) I'm holding at 227.8. May be able to plead under-the-weatherness, as my throat got scratchy Sunday night. But, still motivated, as I've held under 230 lb for five days. I was at 243.3 lb last November, and then I set the reasonable "initial" goal of 225 . . . I can taste it.
I'm in the same boat, this morning (it's 8:12AM as I write) I am 89.2kg, (finally broke my mini-plateau, perhaps thanks to a 3 hour walk last night), and so am almost to my 88kg "soft goal". At 88 I can get back into most of my pants, wildly expanding my wardrobe. However, if I feel satisfied here, I'll just get complacent and slowly drift back up again... 82 is probably my ideal weight.
This morning: 226.8
Choir rehearsal last night helped 8)
And, after another dead-cat bounce, this morning: 226.0
Alas, I have suffered a setback. I hit a buffet pretty hard on Friday:-[ Then my in-laws had a barbecue on Saturday, and on Sunday my son kept begging for spaghetti and I made a big batch and dove in as well. To make matters worse, on Monday some students gave me a big box of designer pineapple cakes for midautumn festival. A perfect storm has struck my imperfect will-power :(
I understand! Poise yourself for the turnaround 8)
Quote from: Mookalafalas on September 19, 2018, 01:36:06 AM
Alas, I have suffered a setback. I hit a buffet pretty hard on Friday:-[ Then my in-laws had a barbecue on Saturday, and on Sunday my son kept begging for spaghetti and I made a big batch and dove in as well. To make matters worse, on Monday some students gave me a big box of designer pineapple cakes for midautumn festival. A perfect storm has struck my imperfect will-power :(
Yes, you must watch your calorie intake or none of this will work. You can eat whatever you want, but not in the amount you might want.
Quote from: MN Dave on September 19, 2018, 08:30:05 AM
Yes, you must watch your calorie intake or none of this will work. You can eat whatever you want, but not in the amount you might want.
You're giving us pearls, here.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 19, 2018, 08:36:05 AM
You're giving us pearls, here.
I'm a walking, talking calorie calculator.
You're an inspiration, dude.
In Nov 2017, when I stepped onto the scales, my weight logged 243, which was the highest of last year, and was very nearly a reversion to my weight two years prior, i.e., no damned progress at all. Then, I set the modest, and achievable (though still, in my mind, intermediate) goal of 225 lb.
It was still some time before I found the will to apply myself (though I never "gave up," I knew this was something I still wanted to do). And I really only grabbed the bull by the horns, on my return from the fleshpots of Florida.
This morning: 224.8
New goal: 215
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 20, 2018, 12:46:08 AM
New goal: 215
That's the way to do it!! I'm rooting for you. I'm going to lay low (partially in shame) til I hit my first milestone of 88 kilos.
Yesterday morning, and this (both): 224.0
This morning: 222.8
I hang around at 208 but I might try for a bit lower. Around the 200 area.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 23, 2018, 03:06:29 AM
This morning: 222.8
This morning: 223.0 . . . trying to regain the momentum.
I'm stuck on 433
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 25, 2018, 10:23:46 AM
This morning: 223.0 . . . trying to regain the momentum.
Don't worry, that's just a blip. I'm almost back on track myself. Going to do a mammoth walk tonight to help things along. Unfortunately, my birthday is in 10 days, and I am committed to taking both my family and all my in-laws (I share my mother-in-law's b-day) out for a deluxe meal--probably buffet. Probably $400 layout. How can I not gorge myself? ???
Quote from: Mookalafalas on September 26, 2018, 01:21:21 AM
Don't worry, that's just a blip. I'm almost back on track myself. Going to do a mammoth walk tonight to help things along. Unfortunately, my birthday is in 10 days[....]
Mine, too! Dietary misbehavior on that weekend is built into the model . . . .
(And: 223.0 again today.)
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 26, 2018, 02:58:48 AM
Mine, too! Dietary misbehavior on that weekend is built into the model . . . .
(And: 223.0 again today.)
October 5th?
I'm trying to find a way to minimize the damage. Maybe go to a seafood place...
Just had a big salad for dinner. half a block of tofu and some sauteed pork pork sprinkled on top. Walked for 1 hour and 45 minutes. 88KG here I come!
6th
Quote from: Mookalafalas on September 26, 2018, 05:41:17 AM
October 5th?
I'm trying to find a way to minimize the damage. Maybe go to a seafood place...
Just had a big salad for dinner. half a block of tofu and some sauteed pork pork sprinkled on top. Walked for 1 hour and 45 minutes. 88KG here I come!
Conquer!
This morning: 220.6
My scales were a little wonky this morning, and I am going to change the batteries. Still, I'll go with 220.6, since it was the highest of the three readings I got, and it is more or less what I was expecting.
Così sent me both a $5 "loyalty reward," and a complimentary birthday treat. So my unusual lunch today was the Shanghai chicken salad, more or less calorically in line with what I should have had in a lunch I bring with me. The birthday treat made for a small comedy of errors. The cashier at first said I could choose items from two baskets, and I selected a 140-calorie Kind™ bar. However, as the cashier futzed with the register's touchscreen, it turned out that the Kind™ bars were ineligible for this promotion. My narrowed selection was brownies or large cookies.
So I got the chocolate chunk cookie. I cut it in half so that it would not throw my day off, reserving the other half for tomorrow . . . sometimes my discipline surprises even myself . . . .
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 28, 2018, 09:26:14 AM
This morning: 220.6
My scales were a little wonky this morning, and I am going to change the batteries. Still, I'll go with 220.6, since it was the highest of the three readings I got, and it is more or less what I was expecting.
Così sent me both a $5 "loyalty reward," and a complimentary birthday treat. So my unusual lunch today was the Shanghai chicken salad, more or less calorically in line with what I should have had in a lunch I bring with me. The birthday treat made for a small comedy of errors. The cashier at first said I could choose items from two baskets, and I selected a 140-calorie Kind™ bar. However, as the cashier futzed with the register's touchscreen, it turned out that the Kind™ bars were ineligible for this promotion. My narrowed selection was brownies or large cookies.
So I got the chocolate chunk cookie. I cut it in half so that it would not throw my day off, reserving the other half for tomorrow . . . sometimes my discipline surprises even myself . . . .
Happy birthday.
You're early, but thanks!
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 28, 2018, 09:26:14 AM
This morning: 220.6
My scales were a little wonky this morning, and I am going to change the batteries. Still, I'll go with 220.6, since it was the highest of the three readings I got, and it is more or less what I was expecting.
Così sent me both a $5 "loyalty reward," and a complimentary birthday treat. So my unusual lunch today was the Shanghai chicken salad, more or less calorically in line with what I should have had in a lunch I bring with me. The birthday treat made for a small comedy of errors. The cashier at first said I could choose items from two baskets, and I selected a 140-calorie Kind™ bar. However, as the cashier futzed with the register's touchscreen, it turned out that the Kind™ bars were ineligible for this promotion. My narrowed selection was brownies or large cookies.
So I got the chocolate chunk cookie. I cut it in half so that it would not throw my day off, reserving the other half for tomorrow . . . sometimes my discipline surprises even myself . . . .
Damn, you are just plummeting down ??? You must feel great! I'm envious. I wonder if you shed a lot of water weight... In the keto diet, when your body first runs out of carbs, you burn all the glycogens(?) which are stored around the body in water, so you piss off all this weight the first couple of weeks. It feels wonderful, and for me a lot of foot and knee pain goes away immediately and I look and feel thinner. The downsides of the water-weight loss are that any serious dietary slip and it comes back on in a hurry, and that when weight loss goes down to a more sustainable pace, it feels really frustrating.
For me, I am at 89.3KG pretty solidly. 88 is a milestone for me, so it will feel great when I get there, but I do dither a lot at this stage >:(
Well, I don't find that I am passing any more water than usual. The waist bands do feel looser, which is great positive reinforcement. Apart from mildly spraining my left knee a week ago (it's back to about 95% . . . not the sort of injury which justifies staying home from the office, yet I am on my feet at the office more than I ought, for speedier mending) aye, the back, knees and feet feel much better.
My challenge is . . . during the week I get into a solid, sustainable dietary rhythm, but on the weekend I am a bit blurry. So I am trying to be sharper this weekend. Next weekend, of course, is the birthday celebrations, and some license is in the model 8)
This morning: 220.0
After some dithering, this morning: 219.6
So, there was (as fully expected and calmly embraced) the "birthday surge"; I came down with a cold, and by now I am nearly mended.
The report being, this morning: 219.0
This morning: 218.4 (all the concert activity helped).
This morning: 217.6
I am not heavy enough for this thread but recently I scratched the 70 kg mark since a long time (probably since I turned 30 in 2002). Still from the wrong direction, but once I am below this, I am at ca. 23 BMI and I will take it easy... :D Still a few kg too many for semi-serious running but I can't afford to buy all new clothes if I get even thinner...
I am stable, just above my first target, but it is not a plateau--it's just that my will-power has been insufficient for downward progress. I'm not backsliding, but not making progress (not exercising, not really adhering to my own diet plan). The weather is slowly becoming more reasonable here, so maybe when it actually becomes sub-80s in the daytime, I'll break out the bike. That could make a big difference...
Quote from: Mookalafalas on October 24, 2018, 08:45:18 PM
I am stable, just above my first target, but it is not a plateau--it's just that my will-power has been insufficient for downward progress. I'm not backsliding, but not making progress (not exercising, not really adhering to my own diet plan). The weather is slowly becoming more reasonable here, so maybe when it actually becomes sub-80s in the daytime, I'll break out the bike. That could make a big difference...
Hang in there!
Marginal progress, this morning: 217.2 (a new low)
Very good progress, this morning (and a little to my own surprise): 216.0 (a new low)
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 26, 2018, 03:35:04 AM
Very good progress, this morning (and a little to my own surprise): 216.0 (a new low)
Good stuff.
Karl, I'm sure you already know this, but you can do whatever you want to do.
Thanks, the reminder coming from a friend is always a boon!
What to eat is such a controversial subject :(. Mrs 2dogs and myself realised we were creeping upwards a few years back, only 15 or 20 pounds but enough to notice and want to take action. I can certainly vouch for the low carb, high fat regime recommended by Mookalafalas for steady weight loss. I'm 5'11" and got down to 157 lb but we've now added carbs back for a more balanced diet and I was 162.5 this morning. I perhaps need to make more of an effort for 160. We always gain a pound or two after our twice weekly outings with Mrs 2dogs 90 year old father as we have to eat in one of the cafes that let dogs in and the food options are not great, but drop it again in time for the next one. There is quite often a days lag in the weight gain and loss that makes the cause less obvious, but it's the processed carbs that put it on - bread, fries, pasta, cereal, pudding, cake, biscuits, cookies, ice cream, sugar, fizzy drinks. Fried breakfast of bacon, sausage, egg, tomato, mushroom, black pudding is fine apart from the bread, toast, beans in tomato sauce and the sauces themselves. Baked potato with a topping is no problem. Whatever diet you're on, avoiding factory processed and artificial foods is probably a safe strategy, and another thing we do now is stick as much as possible to eating only two meals a day within an eight hour window - this leaves sixteen hours for the insulin levels to drop to normal levels and gives the body time to switch from processing food to repair and maintenance functions.
+0.5 lb today from eating sausage sandwich, rhubarb crumble, custard, chicken casserole with potato and carrot, apple crumble, custard, small amount of 85% cocoa chocolate. But only as two meals about five hours apart.
I had an awesome weekend. Camping in the mountains with a bunch of friends and then all going to the beach. But lots of eating--chips, pizza, beer, etc. It was certainly worthwhile--but jumped a kilo in 24 hours.
And congrats, Karl. And thanks for the pointers, 2Dogs.
Thank you! After a "weekend bounce," today the scales registered 216.4, which, while it is not yet full recovery (to the 216.0 of Friday morning), sees me well on track to see my present goal of 215 by the weekend.
I lost half a stone :)
Surely I am 'Dieter of the Week' 8)
Combination of the Harcombe diet and being forced on route marches around the Kent and Sussex countryside by my wife. Swimming as well (front crawl every fourth length).
Good on ya!
This morning: 215.8 (a new low, marginally)
Quote from: vandermolen on October 31, 2018, 08:32:34 AM
I lost half a stone :)
Surely I am 'Dieter of the Week' 8)
Combination of the Harcombe diet and being forced on route marches around the Kent and Sussex countryside by my wife. Swimming as well (front crawl every fourth length).
Wow that's a lot to lose. We're into ambling round the countryside for two or three hours with the dogs twice a week plus other walks daily but they're getting faster due to the pulling of the Romanian dog ::).
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 01, 2018, 06:34:08 AM
This morning: 215.8 (a new low, marginally)
Excellent, it's the consistent direction that's important. The shops here are already full of chocolate advent calendars and big tins of chocolate biscuits with winter scenes, and the big tubs of Halloween chocolates will now be half price. The human race is doomed :o.
Quote from: 2dogs on November 01, 2018, 10:11:10 PM
Wow that's a lot to lose. We're into ambling round the countryside for two or three hours with the dogs twice a week plus other walks daily but they're getting faster due to the pulling of the Romanian dog ::).
My wife wants to get a dog but I don't think this is fair on our cat. She thinks that the dog would 'be good for me' ( getting me out the house, away from my CDs and more exercise) which is probably true. However we have friends who are local vets and we have started borrowing their dog to take on walks. This week I have a bad cold and cough which is something of an appetite suppressant.
Quote from: vandermolen on November 01, 2018, 11:29:10 PM
My wife wants to get a dog but I don't think this is fair on our cat. She thinks that the dog would 'be good for me' ( getting me out the house, away from my CDs and more exercise) which is probably true. However we have friends who are local vets and we have started borrowing their dog to take on walks. This week I have a bad cold and cough which is something of an appetite suppressant.
Borrowing a dog is an excellent idea. It's also interesting to explore the countryside, we've found loads of places.
Quote from: 2dogs on November 01, 2018, 10:16:22 PM
Excellent, it's the consistent direction that's important. The shops here are already full of chocolate advent calendars and big tins of chocolate biscuits with winter scenes, and the big tubs of Halloween chocolates will now be half price. The human race is doomed :o.
This is a challenging season; of course, the office was awash with leftover Hallowe'en candy yesterday. I won't say that I exerted the superhuman effort needed to shun it, entirely, and throughout the day . . . but I did only take two genuinely tiny "Mars Minis," whose calories I dutifully logged in My Fitness Pal and made part of the plan . . . .
So, this morning, inching down: 215.4 (a new low)
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 02, 2018, 03:23:44 AM
This is a challenging season; of course, the office was awash with leftover Hallowe'en candy yesterday. I won't say that I exerted the superhuman effort needed to shun it, entirely, and throughout the day . . . but I did only take two genuinely tiny "Mars Minis," whose calories I dutifully logged in My Fitness Pal and made part of the plan . . . .
So, this morning, inching down: 215.4 (a new low)
You'll be pleased to hear then that Mars bars are now a health food :P
"banking on the growing popularity of healthy eating and people wanting to consume healthy products on the go" :laugh:
https://m.foodingredientsfirst.com/news/mars-launches-protein-bars-under-snickers-and-mars-brands-answering-to-the-growing-demand-for-high-protein-snacks.html (https://m.foodingredientsfirst.com/news/mars-launches-protein-bars-under-snickers-and-mars-brands-answering-to-the-growing-demand-for-high-protein-snacks.html)
Who knew? 0:)
You're inspiring me again, Karl.
Finally saw 88KG on the scale again this morning. What a long slog ???
I just gotta avoid taking the fam out for big nice meal(s) this weekend. Start heading for 86KG and 34" pants again---I'll octuple (apparently not a word) my wardrobe without spending a nickel 8)
Cheers!
And, I met my temporary goal this morning: 214.0
Thanksgiving is still a couple of weeks away, so let me dream large yet, and I'll set 205 as the fresh goal.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 04, 2018, 03:09:17 AM
Cheers!
And, I met my temporary goal this morning: 214.0
Thanksgiving is still a couple of weeks away, so let me dream large yet, and I'll set 205 as the fresh goal.
Cool. For Thanksgiving you could have your fill of turkey and vegetables, a few potatoes, just keep the desserts and sweet stuff to a minimum. Do you eat nuts then like we do at Christmas? That would be a good snack.
Aye, we do. Good suggestion!
When I go into the office I have a couple of dozen mixed nuts (not peanuts), some cheese, an apple and often some pork pie around 11 AM which keeps me going till my meal back home at 6:30 PM. I don't have breakfast any more. This generally loses half a pound.
This morning, inching down some more: 212.6 (a new low)
That is great, I am just going up and down in a 2lb range. When you get as low as you can, try and find what you can eat long term to stay there.
Quote from: 2dogs on November 09, 2018, 08:32:21 PM
When you get as low as you can, try and find what you can eat long term to stay there.
Sound advice.
These past several weeks, I've noted a "weekend bounce," not any actual
reversion, but just a relaxation of discipline/attentiveness corresponding with the cyclical relaxation from The Workweek.
This weekend, we're essentially flat (rather than having "bounced") . . . this morning's 212.8 is no great variance from Friday morning's 212.6, so I am entirely pleased.
This morning: 212.0 (a new low)
There are lots of psychological tricks around health, eating, exercise and fitness.
While I had been aware of the "cheat day" helping many people going along with a restrictive diet, I more recently encountered the complement, the "perfect day". This is more for the ones slowly starting to improve their nutrition and fitness: Start with ONE day in the week without snacks, with good and moderate nutrition and exercisse. Hopefully feel much better on that day so it has been its own reward... add another "perfect day" and so on.
(Fortunately in Europe there is no Thanksgiving, so while there are some minor attacks from the realm of Confiturembourg starting in late november/early december because some of the christmas season treats appear early, the major offensive is concentrated on the Xmas days and maybe the New Year's Eve, so it is only about a week.)
Aye, Thanksgiving must be somehow negotiated. I know better than to try to act as if there is no obstacle 8) I shall try instead to keep the reversal minimal, more through new habits of feeling that I have eaten sufficiently, than of heroic attempts at refusal.
I'd try and eat more of the good stuff. Turkey meat and veg won't hurt you, maybe some nuts, cheese and fruit for afters, some cold meats. We're already receiving supermarket Christmas catalogues through the door - Advent calendars filled with wine for crying out loud :'(.
While Advent used to be a period of fasting (and still is observed to some extent in Eastern churches, I think), there is nothing wrong with wine: liquida non frangunt ieiunum. Liquids don't break the fast. (This is why the monks came up with extra strong beer for Lent...)
This morning: 210.4 (a new low)
Whatever you're doing is working :).
Today was the first occasion I had to step on scale since my stroke. I presently weigh 193.8#
Arrigo Boito summed it up perfectly. Read the first couplet and watch the short clip from Verdi's Falstaff.
https://www.opera-arias.com/verdi/falstaff/quand'ero-paggio/ (https://www.opera-arias.com/verdi/falstaff/quand'ero-paggio/)
Long gone is the time I could go through a ring... :-\
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 29, 2018, 09:01:01 AM
Today was the first occasion I had to step on scale since my stroke. I presently weigh 193.8#
So good to hear from you Karl! I have not been at GMG much lately and actually heard about your situation from a post by Gurn at "the other" site. I'm glad to see you back, and hope that things are coming along for you. I will not say congratulations on your plunge in weight, as I imagine it was not made willingly, or under very agreeable circumstances :(
For my part, I have had something of a 2 week bacchanalia. I put on about 5 kilos, but hope to take it back off again quickly (I can lose easily until I hit this really tough plateau at 89 Kilos).
Thanks! Making good, gradual progress
I'm glad to hear it. Of course we only know each other tangentially, but I was really quite alarmed by the news. It's a relief to hear that things are moving in the right direction.
As far as "The fat enders" goes, you used to be about 35 pounds heavier than I was, and now you've vaulted right past me. I've got some catching up to do.
Virtue Signalling Post
I have now lost 1 stone on my new healthy heating regime (no bread, no cheese, no sweets, cake, biscuits, chocolate, more water, no fruit drinks, Kolko instead of milk and more decaf tea, no alcohol (sort of))
Soon I'll be able to audition for Legolas the elf if there's a new production of Lord of the Rings. Mind you, posting about it here will probably be the kiss-of-death for this diet.
0:)
5'8"/173cm
The first few months -
(https://i.postimg.cc/xC0jkCfD/IMG-20190526-042452-329.jpg)
Update -
(https://i.postimg.cc/VvvYRV0K/IMG-20190526-042713-842.jpg)
As ever, how I feel and how my clothes fit are more important than the numbers.
The calorific deficit is easy to maintain (I always had a sandwich before bed - about 300 calories - so I stopped having it) and is enough to see steady progress. Another four to six weeks and I'll see how I look and feel then.
e: overall the last six months or so have seen me feel better than I have for the past few years. Good stuff.
Quote from: NikF4 on May 25, 2019, 07:46:44 PM
5'8"/173cm
The first few months -
(https://i.postimg.cc/xC0jkCfD/IMG-20190526-042452-329.jpg)
Update -
(https://i.postimg.cc/VvvYRV0K/IMG-20190526-042713-842.jpg)
As ever, how I feel and how my clothes fit are more important than the numbers.
The calorific deficit is easy to maintain (I always had a sandwich before bed - about 300 calories - so I stopped having it) and is enough to see steady progress. Another four to six weeks and I'll see how I look and feel then.
e: overall the last six months or so have seen me feel better than I have for the past few years. Good stuff.
Excellent Nik! Keep up the good work.
Quote from: vandermolen on May 26, 2019, 02:37:10 PM
Excellent Nik! Keep up the good work.
Thanks. Allied to the gym and my trapeze lessons (in another thread you asked where I'd been) the past six months or so have been hugely positive.
Good work on your weight loss. You shouldn't feel even for a moment that posting about it is the kiss of death. Enjoy the current benefits and those that are still to come.
Broken finger - no more trapeze/training in general? = bollocks to that. A 'mere bagatelle'. 8)
e: but seriously, f"ck that.
Quote from: NikF4 on June 07, 2019, 05:05:25 AM
Broken finger - no more trapeze/training in general? = bollocks to that. A 'mere bagatelle'. 8)
e: but seriously, f"ck that.
Oof!
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 07, 2019, 05:51:11 AM
Oof!
karlushka, relative to what you've seen dealing with on a daily basis it's fuck all, but, it has changed my plans for the summer. Still, it could always be worse. Vy ponimayete?
Quote from: NikF4 on June 07, 2019, 06:13:12 AM
karlushka, relative to what you've been dealing with on a daily basis it's fuck all, but, it has changed my plans for the summer. Still, as I say it could always be worse. Vy ponimayete?
BTW, my reason for difficulty in posting/quoting etc is because I've finally started to carry a smartphone when on the the go, albeit a five or six year old smartphone. Rhetorical question: who the fuck needs access to everything/everyone, every minute of the day? Maybe parents and/of carers for the elderly. The rest of it is about having an attention seeking/validation dispensing device. IMO, of course.
e: ;)
e2: I usually look at the end of the month, but -
(https://i.imgur.com/Z6nru1W.jpg)
I'll adjust the calories (not by very much) and so deal with it.
Quote from: NikF4 on June 07, 2019, 06:13:12 AM
karlushka, relative to what you've seen dealing with on a daily basis it's fuck all, but, it has changed my plans for the summer. Still, it could always be worse. Vy ponimayete?
The once and future clarinetist emphasizes with a broken finger ....
An old thread.
Anyway, my weight has been drifting up with my age, and I've been having joint pain and other problems. Suddenly, I felt wildly inspired to lose weight. Starting with keto diet. I'm at about 97 kilos. My goal is to get to 88 by mid July. I put some weight equipment in my office, and busted out my yogurt maker.
Lets go!
Keto diet will do it. After a week's holiday with my parents in November I was 12st 9.75lb / 80.5 kg and lost 10lb / 4.5 kg in the next two weeks with proper keto (scrambled eggs instead of potatoes / rice / pasta). I've not been so strict since but have kept below my red line of 12st / 76 kg. Today 11st 11.5lb / 75 kg and lowest so far (last week) was 11st 9.5 lb / 74 kg which is 6.5 kg below my starting point. I don't really want to go lower than that, 11st 12lb / 75 kg looks about right for me. I'm sure you could lose 9 kg by July starting from a higher weight. I do a lot of walking and some upper body muscle building exercise but the food is the main factor. If you can do all your eating within an 8 hour window and leave it out for a 16 hour break it will also help with any insulin system problem like diabetes or pre-diabetes.
Hi, Steve. That is encouraging. I have tried keto in the past, with mixed results. I always lose a lot at first (when your body flushes the water weight), but then soon hit a wall. I also did the "window of eating time", but cheated too many times, I think. I'm hoping this time I can stick to it better...
I think the "secret" is to change one's diet in a way one can maintain indefinitely. The most promising for most people seems to be a sort of "intermittent fasting (basicall no dinner or no breakfast, all food taken within a ca. 8 hour or less window) combined with low carb as proteins keep the hungry feeling away for longer. The "zeroth step" is to cut all sugary/alcohol drinks and snacks and keep 4 hours between meals. And as little pre-packaged/processed food as possible. I think Michael Pollan gave once as a rule of thumb to avoid buying anything with more than 5 ingredients listed on the package ;)
And a moderate (hopefully increasing) amount of exercise that should include not only "cardio" but lifting/bodyweight exercise that builds/keeps muscle mass.
This sounds about right. I'm eating my main meal at midday with breakfast typically pork pie and apple, and in the evening cheese, salami and a little pickled onion. Crispy duck seems to be a great slimming food, even with the hoisin sauce, and I can get away with a chocolate eclair after the main meal :P
I live in japan. I generally don't eat any processed foods of any kind, and no sugary drinks. A lot of yogurt, oatmeal, multi-grain bread, meat, some pasta, eggs, lots of rice. No beer (although wine and hard alcohol). I walk 8-10K steps most days, but my weight has still been slowly climbing (I'm 55). It is quite frustrating. Anyway, I've bought some exercise equipment and will try "full keto" again. I'll keep you informed how it goes 8)
Ah all those over bred grass seeds that people never evolved to eat. You may be pleased to hear though that age in itself is not a problem - I will be 60 at the weekend.
People did evolve during the last 6000 years... I think the blaming on grains is mostly a fad although lowering carbs (esp. highly processed carbs) seems to work for many people.
Your lifestyle does sound reasonably healthy, Mookafalas and I am in no way an expert. The main things I could think of are further reducing carbs (esp. anything sweet and alcohol), increase fibre and protein and add some higher intensity and/or strength exercise to the low intensity cardio. Unfortunately, there are some hereditary or other factors we can't do anything about. I have never smoked, drank very moderately, if at all, was mostly normal weight and reasonably fit (a few years slightly overweight, around 26-27 BMI) and I have had a hereditary problem with gout attacks since my early thirties and a (mild, manageable) coronary heart condition since my late 40s, so I have to take 5 different pills every day...
Quote from: steve ridgway on March 13, 2022, 10:43:09 PM
Ah all those over bred grass seeds that people never evolved to eat. You may be pleased to hear though that age in itself is not a problem - I will be 60 at the weekend.
It's good to hear you are 60. If you can do it, I can, right ;)
Quote from: Jo498 on March 14, 2022, 12:24:57 AM
People did evolve during the last 6000 years... I think the blaming on grains is mostly a fad although lowering carbs (esp. highly processed carbs) seems to work for many people.
Your lifestyle does sound reasonably healthy, Mookafalas and I am in no way an expert. The main things I could think of are further reducing carbs (esp. anything sweet and alcohol), increase fibre and protein and add some higher intensity and/or strength exercise to the low intensity cardio. Unfortunately, there are some hereditary or other factors we can't do anything about. I have never smoked, drank very moderately, if at all, was mostly normal weight and reasonably fit (a few years slightly overweight, around 26-27 BMI) and I have had a hereditary problem with gout attacks since my early thirties and a (mild, manageable) coronary heart condition since my late 40s, so I have to take 5 different pills every day...
All good comments. I agree.
My father always had a gut, and didn't do much exercise outside of mowing the lawn and such. Now he's 98, and doing OK (he has his own apartment, but in a retirement home).
I actually have 6 years of off-and-on exercise journal. I read some of it. I got my weight down, but then would go on vacations--to foreign countries as well as from my diet--and put all the weight back on again. It was depressing reading. I also found I did the "eating window" thing, and got down to a 6 hour window for over a month, with little result. BUT, I wasn't doing any exercise at all. It seems that when I exercised AND did keto, I lost weight, sometimes dramatically. When more snow melts, I'll break out my bicycle. It is about 1 hour and 15 minutes to my office by bike. If I can do keto and do that bike ride, I should shed pounds like crazy. However, I'm not very disciplined, so the chances of me really doing that aren't too high... ::)
I lost a huge amount of weight using WW. But covid and associated quarantine hit and I gained half of it back. After doing alot of reading and trying out different diets I had to realize that any diet that makes me give up foods I enjoy will never work in the long term. I'm now just doing calorie counting, learning not to cut out foods but to simply eat less. Weight loss is slow, but more sustainable. I really think that people need to stop looking for the magic diet. There is no one size fits all. You need to figure out what you personally are doing wrong and target that. It could be more exercise, cutting out junk food etc etc