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Title: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: mc ukrneal on March 21, 2012, 08:00:53 AM
We had some interesting discussions when the social media links were added to the site. But we don't really have a thread devoted to that. Since then, I've seen some really interesting articles. I thought it would be nice to have a place to discuss social media, and I hope everyone will remain civil on this sometimes polarizing topic.

The First: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/job-seekers-getting-asked-facebook-passwords-071251682.html (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/job-seekers-getting-asked-facebook-passwords-071251682.html)
The Second: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/many-facebook-friends-study-links-narcissism-facebook-activity-120546746--abc-news.html (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/many-facebook-friends-study-links-narcissism-facebook-activity-120546746--abc-news.html)

The first article talks about how employers are asking for Facebook passwords to learn more about you before they hire you. I was outraged to read this. But I am glad I read it in case I ever create an account. I cannot imagine how it must feel to really need a job only to be told to give over a password like that. A lot of pressure if there are mouths to feed.

The second article is about narcissism and Facebook activity. As someone who is interested in human behavior, I find almost any research on social media to be quite interesting. This is not best or most surpirsing article, but it may help start the discussion.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Ataraxia on March 21, 2012, 08:04:49 AM
Yeah, most social media causes folks to crawl up their own asses.

Facebook: Had it. No longer have it.
Twitter: Active acct. but don't use much.
Google+: Had it. No longer have it.

I do some writing so I'm "supposed" to use social media to market my shizz but I just can't stand that whole aspect of it. Now I just ignore it for the most part. Hell, I don't even post on my blog much, not that I ever did. :D

I am active on GMG and Rateyourmusic though. Music sites.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Mirror Image on March 21, 2012, 08:20:02 AM
I use Facebook mainly for connecting with people here from GMG. It brings me closer to getting to know the people behind the posts and about what's going on in their own lives. This is especially useful since most of my friends here, with the exception of two or three members, live far away from where I live. This is what FB is good at doing I think. I used to have a Myspace page, but I haven't used that account in quite some time. I wasn't too fond of the site. I use music sites more than anything else.

I will say that, like anything, FB can be abused and whenever people start posting what essentially could be considered private information on a daily basis, I have to say that this just ridiculous. Telling people about a new job you landed: good, telling people about how many chicks you banged over the weekend: bad.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Todd on March 21, 2012, 08:21:32 AM
I've had a Facebook account for about a year and a half.  I've spent about 30 minutes on it total.  I don't see what is so captivating about it.  I'm boring, I admit it.  Most other people are boring, too.  What's that saying?  Just because it happened to you doesn't make it interesting.  I think that's true.  I spend more time on LinkedIn. 

If an employer or potential employer asked for my Facebook password, I would politely tell them to ES&D. 

Twitter is awful.  Other social media sites don't hold much interest for me.  Guess I'm an out of touch old fogey.  The below sums it up for me.

(http://demotivators.despair.com/tshirts/socialmediavenndiagramtshirt.gif)


Good news sites interest me and concern me more.  For instance, I'm rather displeased that the NY Times is cutting back to ten free articles starting next month, but that's another topic . . .
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Ataraxia on March 21, 2012, 08:26:02 AM
Quote from: Todd on March 21, 2012, 08:21:32 AM
Just because it happened to you doesn't make it interesting.  I think that's true.

Exactly. I was even getting tired of myself if you can believe that. (I know! Right?)

Message boards are the ideal social network for me, where you actually discuss topics that don't (always) include your own bad self.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Todd on March 21, 2012, 08:33:50 AM
Quote from: MN Dave on March 21, 2012, 08:26:02 AMI was even getting tired of myself if you can believe that.



I just don't know how much excitement my standard weekday would generate among any online friends or followers.  Let's see: wake up, shower, have breakfast, take son to school, go to work, perform boring drudgery all day, come home, have dinner, listen to music, read, watch some TV, go to sleep.  Weekends may include exciting tasks like yardwork, shopping, seeing a movie, and perhaps imbibing.  There, I summed up the last fifteen and next twenty years.  Why would I need to post on that everyday?
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: TheGSMoeller on March 21, 2012, 08:38:08 AM
I find more stalking occurring in Facebook than any of the other sites, which is a main reason why I left Facebook. Also, I was tired of hearing, "Why aren't we Facebook friends?" or "You didn't respond to my Facebook post." it's as if "Facebook friends" has become a new level of friendship.

I find Twitter to be less personal and easier to ignore or follow/unfollow users.

I don't care if you just had coffee or what you ate for lunch, and please don't quote a movie or song, don't tell me you're sick and vomitting, and don't tell me what restuarant or grocery store you just "checked into". All reasons I have unfollowed or de-friended ppl on these sites.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Ataraxia on March 21, 2012, 08:39:28 AM
Yes, people crawl out of the woodwork on Facebook. Another reason to abandon it!  ;D
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Karl Henning on March 21, 2012, 08:43:46 AM
(* munches popcorn *)
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Szykneij on March 21, 2012, 01:33:33 PM
(* pass the butter *)
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: TheGSMoeller on March 21, 2012, 01:37:19 PM
Quote from: karlhenning on March 21, 2012, 08:43:46 AM
(* munches popcorn *)
Quote from: Szykneij on March 21, 2012, 01:33:33 PM
(* pass the butter *)


I'm deleting both of you from my Facebook "friends" list...



...unless I can get some popcorn.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Lethevich on March 21, 2012, 02:33:12 PM
I don't really agree with either of those articles:

‌•The password thing: it seems to be just because the profile was set to private - a lot of jobs check Facebook profiles now. If you are too embarassed with your private life to un-private just for 10 mins so they can take a poke around, then he is denying them access to what has become a routine little background check - the like of which businesses have been doing way before Facebook. There is no confirmation of them wanting access to his personal emails, nor to keep the password to maintain a constant monitor of him.
‌•The Facebook friends thing: people are the same online as irl. Facebook doesn't make people vapid, it taps into what is already there.

I don't actively participate in social media (the concept does not suit my personality and personal life), only read it when required, though I see how awesome and useful it is for others I don't feel any need to denegrate them.

Knowing X person's Twitter account for example allows me to keep up to date with important news and views sources far more effectively than anything else. I want to know why a Youtube video of somebody I subscribe to was removed? I check Twitter, sometimes they might make reference to it, or I will catch the tail-end of a conversation that led to it being deleted. If a liveshow I like is putting on an unexpected broadcast, this is where it will be announced, and so on. I can throw a question to often quite famous people and if it's not a PR-run account, there's a fair chance they will read it. The level of access is like nothing before.

Facebook has become an incredibly effective method of organising social gatherings, which rather goes against all the whining I see about it being "antisocial". Seeing it in action in organising quick parties is beautifully fluid. A person will tend to friend their whole social circle, including some with one or two degress of seperation (not only their best friends), then use it as a tool for getting in touch with someone they saw and want to mention something to, or perhaps to ask where X person they know is. It's a cool way of turning someone you've seen once or twice at a gathering into a friend when you find that you have some common interests from checking their page. As a blog full of your most profound thoughts, I find it less effective - that is what blogs are for.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: drogulus on March 21, 2012, 09:06:55 PM
    I'm information oriented rather than social, so old fashioned websites, fora and blogs serve my needs. I have nothing against the new social media. I'll try to find something stronger than they "waste time", since I'm generally in favor of that. (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/Smileys/classic/smiley.gif)
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: mc ukrneal on March 23, 2012, 11:43:36 AM
Well, Facebook have come out and told employers not to ask for passwords: http://news.yahoo.com/facebook-warns-employers-dont-ask-passwords-163806953.html (http://news.yahoo.com/facebook-warns-employers-dont-ask-passwords-163806953.html)
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Henk on March 24, 2012, 05:40:39 AM
I use Facebook, Twitter, StumbleUpon and MyOpera. I ignore and reject Google(+) (I need to check my Gmail however, and I do this with "Google Watcher", an add-on of Firefox). And of course GMG.

StumbleUpon can really work in combination with forums I think. You don't miss any information. I can be offline here for much time, check StumbleUpon and I haven't missed anything.

I just started to use MyOpera. It has a webtimer function, which gives information about how you spend your time on the internet. :) I don't want to spend much time on internet.

I think many people here would love MyOpera and they will also use Facebook then. You're a narcist if you use MyOpera and not Facebook.

Henk
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Henk on March 24, 2012, 11:58:52 AM
I want rather to internet less, without giving up of any of these social media.

And GMG is internet also, let's not forget about that. I don't understand why GMG should be rated higher than Facebook.

Henk
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Philoctetes on March 24, 2012, 06:57:57 PM
I'm on board with everything that Sara said, so spot on.

I use it mainly to keep in contact with my friends who live far away. I also detest the phone which also may be why I utilize Facebook for that function. I really hate the phone.

I also use Twitter because it gets me access to the news that I have a desire to know a lot quicker. Most of the news agencies, and especially the Western ones, either offer no coverage or coverage with an extreme bias or slant. I prefer to hear it from the horse's mouth, so I use Twitter for that.

Once I get a career though, I doubt I'll use Facebook any more, and I'll migrate over to LinkedIn and bother Todd.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Henk on March 25, 2012, 02:00:36 AM
I can miss information and opportunities. Thinking in this way, it relativizes social media.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: mc ukrneal on March 25, 2012, 11:29:33 AM
Congress is possibly getting into the act reagrding the Facebook password requests by potential employers: http://news.yahoo.com/senators-ask-feds-probe-requests-111503832.html (http://news.yahoo.com/senators-ask-feds-probe-requests-111503832.html)
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: DavidW on March 26, 2012, 05:00:40 PM
Quote from: Todd on March 21, 2012, 08:21:32 AM
Good news sites interest me and concern me more.  For instance, I'm rather displeased that the NY Times is cutting back to ten free articles starting next month, but that's another topic . . .

Yeah I spend more time on the Washington Post than I do on facebook.

Anyway I used to have a negative opinion of facebook, but since I've rejoined I like it.  Even though important updates from friends are slow going, and many people hold back because of how public facebook has become, it has made a positive impact on me.  I see former students graduating from college and getting married.  I see old friends just sharing their love for their child, others going to have a child.  And just a few months ago I had no idea what was going on in their lives.

I've also signed up for LinkedIn, it has potential for a practical experiencing networking with other professionals.  Even though my job search is over, I think that it will come in handy if/when/maybe I pick up a research project.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: mc ukrneal on April 02, 2012, 10:23:32 AM
Well, interesting development. First grade teached fired for not handing over Facebook password: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/technology-blog/grade-school-teacher-aide-fired-refusing-hand-over-172305406.html (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/technology-blog/grade-school-teacher-aide-fired-refusing-hand-over-172305406.html)

And House rejects legislation that would protect your right to not provide it: http://www.tecca.com/news/2012/03/28/house-rejects-legislation-that-would-protect-your-facebook-password-from-employers/ (http://www.tecca.com/news/2012/03/28/house-rejects-legislation-that-would-protect-your-facebook-password-from-employers/)
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: DavidW on April 02, 2012, 03:57:09 PM
That teaching aid has a really strong case.  Where I work (but not whom I work for) had a much better solution than asking for passwords-- you talk to current students only through the school's fb account.  Will that will be set up like next year, and I'll be at my new job by then.  Don't know what their policy is.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: eyeresist on April 02, 2012, 05:49:16 PM
Quote from: mc ukrneal on April 02, 2012, 10:23:32 AMAnd House rejects legislation that would protect your right to not provide it: http://www.tecca.com/news/2012/03/28/house-rejects-legislation-that-would-protect-your-facebook-password-from-employers/ (http://www.tecca.com/news/2012/03/28/house-rejects-legislation-that-would-protect-your-facebook-password-from-employers/)

In further developments, the government demands the keys to your car and naked pictures of your wife.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Szykneij on April 02, 2012, 06:30:07 PM
Quote from: eyeresist on April 02, 2012, 05:49:16 PM
In further developments, the government demands the keys to your car and naked pictures of your wife.

No! Not my keys !!!
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: eyeresist on April 02, 2012, 08:00:56 PM
Quote from: Szykneij on April 02, 2012, 06:30:07 PMNo! Not my keys !!!

:D
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Wanderer on April 02, 2012, 11:36:15 PM
Quote from: eyeresist on April 02, 2012, 05:49:16 PM
... and naked pictures of your wife.

Copyright release form included.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: mc ukrneal on April 11, 2012, 09:38:52 AM
It looks like Maryland as passed a law protecting our right not to provide a passoword: http://news.yahoo.com/maryland-bill-bans-employers-facebook-passwords-143657546.html (http://news.yahoo.com/maryland-bill-bans-employers-facebook-passwords-143657546.html)
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Todd on April 11, 2012, 10:07:17 AM
Quote from: mc ukrneal on April 02, 2012, 10:23:32 AMAnd House rejects legislation that would protect your right to not provide it:


Oh well.  Really, should the FCC be involved in setting any rules as it pertains to human resource and security decisions for government agencies of any kind, let alone private firms?  I'm kind of fuzzy on how the Constitution or any of the Amendments has much, if anything, to do with this type of issue, too.

I'm all for maintaining password privacy - and I enjoy the irony of reading about companies and other entities that no doubt have well documented privacy policies that cover passwords and when and to whom they should be given (ie, never and no one) - but I very seriously doubt the Federales need to be involved.  The course being pursued in Maryland seems about right to me.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: mc ukrneal on May 18, 2012, 06:48:48 AM
An article about people who don't use Facebook - the resistors: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/facebook-grows-millions-no-thanks-073535378--finance.html (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/facebook-grows-millions-no-thanks-073535378--finance.html)
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Polednice on May 18, 2012, 07:33:51 AM
I have a facebook account because my student peers communicate through it and I'd miss vital information if I didn't have one, but I never look at it - I have nothing worth broadcasting to my friends, and the things they post are invariably mundane. I also hate that people add people they barely know, or don't know at all. I have around 30 or 40 friends there, all of whom I speak to in real life. I can't understand why someone would have 200+.

I do, however, have an active Google+ account, and I think it's brilliant. A lot of people seem not to like Google+ because they just don't get it - it is not like facebook. I'm active there, but I have no real life friends on it. Basically, the way I use it is to discuss things I find interesting with professionals involved in it - it's kind of like a forum like GMG in that sense. For example, I use Google reader to keep up with news/science/books etc., and Google+ is where I go to have proper conversations about that stuff. A lot of the time, you're even having conversations with the writers and scientists who wrote the article in question. It's a great way of networking with interesting people you've never met before.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: eyeresist on May 20, 2012, 05:37:35 PM
Intrigued by a line on the series Being Human - "We're more Ceefax people" - I googled, and now have a slightly better idea what teletext was, and why we're better off without it (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/tv-radio/bbc-ceefax-the-death-of-a-classic-text-7657894.html).
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Brian on August 18, 2012, 02:39:55 PM
Heh:
http://ihave50dollars.com/
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: John Copeland on August 19, 2012, 04:19:06 AM
Not everyone is 'social'.  Some of us are very private people.  A few weeks ago some German sociologists and psychologists came up with the idea that there 'is something wrong with you' if you're not part of a Social Media group.  On the contrary, there is 'something wrong' with them for suggesting such a silly thing.
Before Google came, we had the internet...it was free and easy, you could go anywhere and look for anything.  Now we have become near dependant on Google, Yahoo, etc, because they have muscled up to become the standard internet portals.  They store information, and in Social Media, disseminate it...for money.  The whole thing is unhuman and very sick.  I haven't posted in Facebook for an awful long time now.  I signed for Twitter a couple of weeks ago.  More shite.  I'd rather keep a long-hand diary...
It is becoming more necessary than a CV to have a PUBLIC profile on a social media portal.  In many ways, our dependence on electricity and electronics is going to end in tears.  All it takes is a solar storm to knock everything on Earth out.   Everything.  It is not something that 'might' happen, it is something that 'will' happen.  Such events are not uncommon.  In space time they happen all the time.  In Earth time there are long decades between 'serious' storms...it may happen tomorrow, it may happen in 100 years.  It WILL happen.  We are building houses on water.  Unfortunately, we cannot get a celestial event to knock social media out ONLY.  >:(
Right.  I'm off to the Scottish Highlands now to rave with the locusts, John the Baptist style, that the World is going to end...sometime.  I will baptise allcomers in Loch Ness, and wear the skins of a mountain Stag.   ???
Title: Re: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Karl Henning on August 19, 2012, 05:25:23 AM
Quote from: Scots John on August 19, 2012, 04:19:06 AM
Not everyone is 'social'.

That's fair.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: drogulus on August 19, 2012, 07:28:58 AM

      I'm reading Turing's Cathedral by George Dyson. His thesis is that for 60 years the digital universe has been training humans how to communicate with it. The genetic code gave birth to the digital code which in turn decrypted the genetic code to learn how to replicate itself. It (some kind of "it") is learning and evolving orders of magnitude faster than we bacteria-based entities have done.

      It may seem significant that our code in human manifestation thinks it's conscious whereas the digital code is under no such impression for the time being. That will change at some point. The question arises if "it/they" would have any reason to communicate at the natural language concept level. Maybe there's nothing to say in that medium.

      Recently the code told us to build drones to help fight our wars. Before that a science fiction writer figured out what the drones will do when they grow up. That writer was Philip K. Dick.

     (http://farm1.staticflickr.com/130/415946987_0a56d1a09d_z.jpg)

     (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/Smileys/classic/smiley.gif)

     
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: mc ukrneal on October 16, 2012, 06:07:15 AM
This sucks for those poor people: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/when-the-most-personal-secrets-get-outed-on-facebook.html (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/when-the-most-personal-secrets-get-outed-on-facebook.html)
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: mn dave on May 08, 2014, 05:19:47 AM
If any friends here want to hook up elsewhere...

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dtwilbanks
Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/sloughmagus

Warning: I'm not a once-a-day poster. :D
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Karl Henning on May 08, 2014, 05:37:22 AM
Quote from: Mn Dave on May 08, 2014, 05:19:47 AM
If any friends here want to hook up elsewhere...

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dtwilbanks
Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/sloughmagus

Warning: I'm not a once-a-day poster. :D

Proud to call you a Friend and a Follower.  (Still, a little weird, isn't that?)  You know what I mean . . . .
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: mn dave on May 08, 2014, 05:41:09 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on May 08, 2014, 05:37:22 AM
Proud to call you a Friend and a Follower.  (Still, a little weird, isn't that?)  You know what I mean . . . .

I as well!  0:)
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: North Star on May 08, 2014, 06:27:17 AM
Quote from: Mn Dave on May 08, 2014, 05:19:47 AM
Warning: I'm not a once-a-day poster. :D
I thought you meant it in the sense it fits me..  0:)
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: mn dave on May 08, 2014, 06:28:19 AM
Quote from: North Star on May 08, 2014, 06:27:17 AM
I thought you meant it in the sense it fits me..  0:)

That was you I just friended back, eh? :)
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: North Star on May 08, 2014, 06:30:39 AM
Quote from: Mn Dave on May 08, 2014, 06:28:19 AM
That was you I just friended back, eh? :)
Yes.  8)
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Karl Henning on May 08, 2014, 06:38:26 AM
Glad you gents have got together there, too!
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: mn dave on May 08, 2014, 06:40:42 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on May 08, 2014, 06:38:26 AM
Glad you gents have got together there, too!

Indeed.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Mookalafalas on May 08, 2014, 06:10:55 PM
I think facebook is kind of miraculous.  When I started an account, old friends from junior high school and high school, ex-girlfriends, found me--people I hadn't heard about in 20 or 30 years.  I don't post much, and most of them don't either, but I check every morning, and if someone's child won an award or something, yeah, it's trivial, but I like to say "congrats" and stay that little-bit connected to people who used to be very important in my life.  I guess it's kind of like "7-Up"--but built around your own life.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Karl Henning on September 05, 2014, 05:43:42 AM
Quote from: Baklavaboy on May 08, 2014, 06:10:55 PM
I think facebook is kind of miraculous.  When I started an account, old friends from junior high school and high school, ex-girlfriends, found me--people I hadn't heard about in 20 or 30 years.  I don't post much, and most of them don't either, but I check every morning, and if someone's child won an award or something, yeah, it's trivial, but I like to say "congrats" and stay that little-bit connected to people who used to be very important in my life.  I guess it's kind of like "7-Up"--but built around your own life.

Agreed, it's a wonderful medium to keep in touch, and to keep it light.

Separately, one borderline vexatious thing I find in social media is:

. . . hang on, I've got to restart the machine.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: mn dave on September 05, 2014, 05:45:34 AM
I try to quit FB but they keep dragging me back in.  >:(
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Karl Henning on September 05, 2014, 06:28:51 AM
One Machine Re-Start Later . . .

One borderline vexatious thing I find in social media is:

A celebrity dies, 'tis pity. Because the deceased is a celebrity (and by definition world-famous) social media erupts with an effusion of variations on Oh, this person meant so much to me;  and to a certain degree, that's fine.  After all, the person's celebrity (to state the obvious) depended on the appearance of some sort of contact with many individuals who, in fact, do not know the celebrity personally.  I say to a certain degree because the proceedings soon become an unseemly kind of circus:  it is not grief personal to the vast majority of us, yet -- can't stop the gushery.

All that is actually something I consider a serious concern with, let us say, social disproportion.

The relatively trivial complaint is, sorry:  I do not now give, have never given, much of a damn about Joan Rivers, fine person though I must suppose her to have been.  But, hello, week in which J. R. is the 500-lb. gorilla in the virtual room.

Rant over.  Thank you for your time.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: mn dave on September 05, 2014, 06:30:52 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on September 05, 2014, 06:28:51 AM
The relatively trivial complaint is, sorry:  i do not now give, have never given, much of a damn about Joan Rivers, fine person though I must suppose her to have been.  But, hello, week in which J. R. is the 500-lb. gorilla in the virtual room.

Rant over.  Thank you for your time.

Lovely. She has always irritated me.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Karl Henning on September 05, 2014, 06:31:50 AM
Quote from: Mn Dave on September 05, 2014, 06:30:52 AM
Lovely. She has always irritated me.

Wishing to think the best of people, I always assumed that it was her act.  And her act was not to my taste.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Florestan on September 05, 2014, 06:34:46 AM
I've never had a FB account. While considering registration, my wife's account has been hacked, twice --- so I gave up. I guess GMG is more than enough for my socializing on the web.  ;D
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Karl Henning on September 05, 2014, 06:35:48 AM
Well, and I am glad to "meet" you here, Andrei.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Gurn Blanston on September 05, 2014, 06:36:02 AM
Quote from: Mn Dave on September 05, 2014, 06:30:52 AM
Lovely. She has always irritated me.

Not to be an apologist for her (she doesn't need it) I believe that was her point...

Karl's is well-taken though. Before long, the person assumes godlike proportions; my favorite is "(s)he was an icon!". The post Michael Jackson frenzy was the best, followed by the woman who snorted her fame up her nose, can't remember her name now. She was a diva though, a freaking icon, I'm sure of that... :-\

8)
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Gurn Blanston on September 05, 2014, 06:37:09 AM
Quote from: Florestan on September 05, 2014, 06:34:46 AM
I've never had a FB account. While considering registration, my wife's account has been hacked, twice --- so I gave up. I guess GMG is more than enough for my socializing on the web.  ;D

Joining Twitter would give you a great opportunity to work on your prolixity though... just sayin'...   :D :D

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Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Florestan on September 05, 2014, 06:37:28 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on September 05, 2014, 06:35:48 AM
Well, and I am glad to "meet" you here, Andrei.

Likewise.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: mn dave on September 05, 2014, 06:41:18 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on September 05, 2014, 06:31:50 AM
Wishing to think the best of people, I always assumed that it was her act.  And her act was not to my taste.

Her act is vile. :)
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: mn dave on September 05, 2014, 06:43:05 AM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on September 05, 2014, 06:36:02 AM
Not to be an apologist for her (she doesn't need it) I believe that was her point...

Her point was to irritate me? I'm flattered.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Florestan on September 05, 2014, 06:44:34 AM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on September 05, 2014, 06:37:09 AM
Joining Twitter would give you a great opportunity to work on your prolixity though... just sayin'...   :D :D

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First put your entire Haydn Seek site on Twitter; then I might consider joining it... ;D
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: mn dave on September 05, 2014, 06:47:55 AM
A message board forum where you discuss TOPICS will always be better than Twitter or Facebook where you discuss the cupcake you just ate and that it was delicious. PEOPLE LOVE TALKING ABOUT THEMSELVES, in case you hadn't noticed.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Gurn Blanston on September 05, 2014, 06:49:57 AM
Quote from: Mn Dave on September 05, 2014, 06:43:05 AM
Her point was to irritate me? I'm flattered.

Clearly she did it well. :)  I'm not sure of the root of "insult comedy", but there is no question the audience should be edgy during and after. I always was...

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Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: mn dave on September 05, 2014, 06:50:34 AM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on September 05, 2014, 06:49:57 AM
Clearly she did it well. :)  I'm not sure of the root of "insult comedy", but there is no question the audience should be edgy during and after. I always was...

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Don't mind me. I'm just an old Victorian lady...
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Gurn Blanston on September 05, 2014, 06:51:43 AM
Quote from: Florestan on September 05, 2014, 06:44:34 AM
First put your entire Haydn Seek site on Twitter; then I might consider joining it... ;D

You're too late, it's already there. Just click the link. I use Twitter for self-aggrandisement purposes. It does that well. ;)

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Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Gurn Blanston on September 05, 2014, 06:53:50 AM
Quote from: Mn Dave on September 05, 2014, 06:47:55 AM
A message board forum where you discuss TOPICS will always be better than Twitter or Facebook where you discuss the cupcake you just ate and that it was delicious. PEOPLE LOVE TALKING ABOUT THEMSELVES, in case you hadn't noticed.

I agree. I still am not on FB, haven't even gone there to look. I got on Twitter to make contacts for my blog, and it has worked out wonderfully. I even had a nice discussion with cellist Queyras after he reads one of my tweets. That probably won't happen here. :-\

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Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: mn dave on September 05, 2014, 06:55:59 AM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on September 05, 2014, 06:53:50 AM
I agree. I still am not on FB, haven't even gone there to look. I got on Twitter to make contacts for my blog, and it has worked out wonderfully. I even had a nice discussion with cellist Queyras after he reads one of my tweets. That probably won't happen here. :-\

Hey, that's cool! I like Facebook better for various reasons but it is fun when a "celeb" pays you some attention.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Florestan on September 05, 2014, 07:30:48 AM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on September 05, 2014, 06:51:43 AM
use Twitter for self-aggrandisement purposes.

You remind me of one Mikel, if it rings a bell to you...  :D
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Florestan on September 05, 2014, 07:31:29 AM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on September 05, 2014, 06:53:50 AM
I agree. I still am not on FB, haven't even gone there to look. I got on Twitter to make contacts for my blog, and it has worked out wonderfully. I even had a nice discussion with cellist Queyras after he reads one of my tweets. That probably won't happen here. :-\

Wonderful.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Karl Henning on September 05, 2014, 07:36:36 AM
Très cool, Gurn!
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Karl Henning on September 12, 2014, 09:34:58 AM
Kid-friendly alternative to Facebook takes off in Israeli schools (http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/Olive-Press/2014/0523/Kid-friendly-alternative-to-Facebook-takes-off-in-Israeli-schools)
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: DavidW on September 12, 2014, 01:21:05 PM
Funny it was this thread, or rather articles posted on it that caused me to quit FB!  Now I remember.  It has been a couple of years but I don't regret it.  All that I got from it was wasting time looking at funny pics.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: mc ukrneal on September 12, 2014, 09:23:12 PM
Quote from: Mn Dave on September 05, 2014, 06:43:05 AM
Her point was to irritate me? I'm flattered.
Actually, her point was that any topic was fair game no matter how sensitive or pc people were (there are some remarkable videos of how she responds to those offended by her act). I didn't like her fashion stuff - which I found a bit mean-spirited, but I did admire how she was able to continue being funny (arguably) after great personal adversity.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Holden on September 13, 2014, 01:28:20 PM
I'm on FB to keep in touch with distant family and friends and it works wonderfully for this purpose. It is a bit one-sided in that I rarely post anything new but content myself to post birthday and congratulatory greetings.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: lisa needs braces on September 14, 2014, 05:53:26 AM
I like Twitter as a news feed. It's a good way to follow the works of your favorite bloggers, pundits and intellectuals. I don't follow a single person I know in real life. It's also cool when it notifies me through the phone of a major trending topic which in most cases turns out to be tragic news of one sort or another.

Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Karl Henning on November 17, 2016, 02:59:22 AM
I'm going to close my Twitter account.  In the first place, it doesn't serve the musical networking purpose which (to at least some degree) Facebook;  in the second, anyone I am connected to via Twitter with whom I wish to remain connected, Twitter is a redundant medium;  and in the third, the President-Elect seems to think that Twitter will substitute for actual discussion.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Gurn Blanston on November 17, 2016, 05:05:01 AM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 17, 2016, 02:59:22 AM
I'm going to close my Twitter account.  In the first place, it doesn't serve the musical networking purpose which (to at least some degree) Facebook;  in the second, anyone I am connected to via Twitter with whom I wish to remain connected, Twitter is a redundant medium;  and in the third, the President-Elect seems to think that Twitter will substitute for actual discussion.

Actually, I prefer Twitter to Facebook. I have met many interesting people in music on Twitter, none on Facebook. Odd how our experiences differ. As for DFT, I haven't seen a single tweet from him, and not that many from his followers (unless my friend in Boston happened to retweet them).  :)

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Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Karl Henning on November 17, 2016, 05:16:57 AM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on November 17, 2016, 05:05:01 AM
Actually, I prefer Twitter to Facebook. I have met many interesting people in music on Twitter, none on Facebook. Odd how our experiences differ. As for DFT, I haven't seen a single tweet from him, and not that many from his followers (unless my friend in Boston happened to retweet them).  :)

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Well, and if you were not also on FB, I would remain on Twitter 0:)

I am glad your experience on Twitter is more worthwhile!
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Turner on November 17, 2016, 05:24:36 AM
I am using Twitter only for news feed from very selected sources/journalists; in that respect, it´s an incredible resource for extremely quick updates, an overview including a good deal of details, plus the linked material to bigger articles & videos etc. Sometimes you´ll get material long before the bigger media has it.

The Facebook account is only checked once in a while, plus for a rare comment or question on other FB sites from time to time, including those of news sites, institutions, companies & organizations.

Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Gurn Blanston on November 17, 2016, 05:35:51 AM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 17, 2016, 05:16:57 AM
Well, and if you were not also on FB, I would remain on Twitter 0:)

I am glad your experience on Twitter is more worthwhile!

:)  Thanks.

I don't think I have ever actually made an original post on FB, since I discovered that I can make my Twitter posts carry over. I do enjoy making comments on posts though, something I rarely do on Twitter. So far, for me, FB has been far more political, while the control I have on Twitter allows me to keep just music and art on my timeline. Lots of things about FB I really don't like, too numerous to go into here... :-\

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Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Henk on May 28, 2017, 04:18:18 AM
"Does Facebook Make Us Unhappy and Unhealthy?
A look at new research covering thousands of adults"

https://www.wsj.com/articles/does-facebook-make-us-unhappy-and-unhealthy-1495729227?mod=e2tw (https://www.wsj.com/articles/does-facebook-make-us-unhappy-and-unhealthy-1495729227?mod=e2tw)

Twitter might be better.

A better name for Facebook probably is Faceborg or Fakesbook as people posted on Twitter.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Spineur on March 18, 2018, 09:17:45 AM
Facebook censorship

Facebook just censored the painting La liberté guidant le peuple by Eugène Delacroix for its pornographic content

>:D >:D
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Karl Henning on July 03, 2018, 01:56:31 AM
I drew the conclusion that I was not getting anything from Twitter, i.e., near-zero social interaction, and that there are no "live connections" there that I do not maintain elsewhere.

So I deactivated my Twitter account.

I am actually thinking about bagging my Facebook account, but that requires much more deliberation before I take that step.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Judith on July 03, 2018, 05:56:00 AM
Was an avid FB user and one evening, was fed up with the posts on it. I have had a twitter account for a while so decided to have a look. One of my favourite musicians tweeted. I replied and he replied back. Thought "I like this"  Then two days later, I replied to another of his tweets and he liked it. Thought "I love this" That was nearly two years ago and since then, spent half my life on Twitter lol. 

Still on FB occasionally but not so often!
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: eljr on July 03, 2018, 08:38:45 AM
Quote from: mc ukrneal on March 21, 2012, 08:00:53 AM
We had some interesting discussions when the social media links were added to the site. But we don't really have a thread devoted to that. Since then, I've seen some really interesting articles. I thought it would be nice to have a place to discuss social media, and I hope everyone will remain civil on this sometimes polarizing topic.

The First: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/job-seekers-getting-asked-facebook-passwords-071251682.html (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/job-seekers-getting-asked-facebook-passwords-071251682.html)
The Second: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/many-facebook-friends-study-links-narcissism-facebook-activity-120546746--abc-news.html (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/many-facebook-friends-study-links-narcissism-facebook-activity-120546746--abc-news.html)

The first article talks about how employers are asking for Facebook passwords to learn more about you before they hire you. I was outraged to read this. But I am glad I read it in case I ever create an account. I cannot imagine how it must feel to really need a job only to be told to give over a password like that. A lot of pressure if there are mouths to feed.

The second article is about narcissism and Facebook activity. As someone who is interested in human behavior, I find almost any research on social media to be quite interesting. This is not best or most surpirsing article, but it may help start the discussion.

I am not sure reading your Facebook posts are any more intrusive than needing to take polygraphs or personality profile tests. Drug tests, your grades in school.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Gurn Blanston on July 03, 2018, 09:12:22 AM
Quote from: Judith on July 03, 2018, 05:56:00 AM
Was an avid FB user and one evening, was fed up with the posts on it. I have had a twitter account for a while so decided to have a look. One of my favourite musicians tweeted. I replied and he replied back. Thought "I like this"  Then two days later, I replied to another of his tweets and he liked it. Thought "I love this" That was nearly two years ago and since then, spent half my life on Twitter lol. 

Still on FB occasionally but not so often!

I'm on both but am far more a Twitterer than a FB'er. I never make an original post on FB, I just comment on others. But my experience with Twitter is much like yours. I have 'spoken' with a large number of people whose CD's are in my library. They have read and commented on my blog posts. I think that's just cool. I even had a chat with John Cleese one night when he was being harassed. Twitter is just much more personal for me. :)

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Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Karl Henning on July 03, 2018, 09:29:41 AM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on July 03, 2018, 09:12:22 AM
I'm on both but am far more a Twitterer than a FB'er. I never make an original post on FB, I just comment on others. But my experience with Twitter is much like yours. I have 'spoken' with a large number of people whose CD's are in my library. They have read and commented on my blog posts. I think that's just cool. I even had a chat with John Cleese one night when he was being harassed. Twitter is just much more personal for me. :)

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Your Twitter experience is way cooler than mine  8)
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Gurn Blanston on July 03, 2018, 10:50:41 AM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 03, 2018, 09:29:41 AM
Your Twitter experience is way cooler than mine  8)

I get to talk to you there, and vice-versa. It's all good. ;)

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Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: TheGSMoeller on July 03, 2018, 10:57:41 AM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on July 03, 2018, 09:12:22 AM
I'm on both but am far more a Twitterer than a FB'er. I never make an original post on FB, I just comment on others. But my experience with Twitter is much like yours. I have 'spoken' with a large number of people whose CD's are in my library. They have read and commented on my blog posts. I think that's just cool. I even had a chat with John Cleese one night when he was being harassed. Twitter is just much more personal for me. :)

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I always count on you to offer great listening recs on Twitter! Which I follow often.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: NikF on July 03, 2018, 03:57:22 PM
While not quite driving around in an oxcart and throwing paper aeroplanes to communicate, I'm not up to date or sure how much of social media operates. All my work used to come by word of mouth (the only big exception I can think of was a multimedia company called Ministry of Sound approaching me via Facebook to photograph someone) and that method suited just fine.

So I've tried Facebook. Long ago was Yahoo Clubs (not the same thing as the later Yahoo Groups) and something called Bebo. Twitter - still not sure exactly what it is or if there's a need to register in order to use it. Instagram? - I've caught glimpses of myriad horrors contained within there.

I understand these things are useful for families to keep in touch or businesses to employ marketing. But there's very little I can say or do that's of interest to others that can't get there via email.
Also, checking email in the morning and then again (if I remember) once again at night means I've more time to sleep do stuff in my own life, rather than spend it looking at what others want to show me they're doing with theirs.

Maybe one day I'll buy a smartphone and become part of it. My current phone cost six Euros and mostly gets used for calling taxis.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Gurn Blanston on July 03, 2018, 04:09:58 PM
Quote from: TheGSMoeller on July 03, 2018, 10:57:41 AM
I always count on you to offer great listening recs on Twitter! Which I follow often.

Thanks! I like a place where I feel comfortable. I am often amazed when people say Twitter is just so hostile. I haven't seen it, but then, I tend to avoid such things. Seems there is a seamy underside wherever you go. :)

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Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Karl Henning on July 03, 2018, 04:10:38 PM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on July 03, 2018, 04:09:58 PM
Thanks! I like a place where I feel comfortable. I am often amazed when people say Twitter is just so hostile. I haven't seen it, but then, I tend to avoid such things. Seems there is a seamy underside wherever you go. :)

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I believe it.
Title: Re: Facebook, Twitter and Social Media
Post by: Gurn Blanston on July 03, 2018, 04:13:12 PM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 03, 2018, 04:10:38 PM
I believe it.

Well, you were the one who finally got me there, Karl. :D  I don't think you hang out with the Seamsters Union either.  ;)

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