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General Classical Music Discussion / Re: What are you listening to now?
« Last post by Que on Today at 01:06:01 AM »
Next up (disc 2):

Trump says US will withdraw from nuclear arms treaty with Russia

"“This is the most severe crisis in nuclear arms control since the 1980s,” said Malcolm Chalmers, the deputy director general of the Royal United Services Institute. “If the INF treaty collapses, and with the New Start treaty on strategic arms due to expire in 2021, the world could be left without any limits on the nuclear arsenals of nuclear states for the first time since 1972.”

My biggest worry up till now was that Trump would start another war, but this might be worse.... ::)

Composer Discussion / Re: Favourite composer names.
« Last post by schnittkease on Today at 12:12:34 AM »
Probably thought it too much or possibly it is just common usage, like Felix Mendelssohn-Bartholdy is usually known as Felix Mendelssohn

I can't tell if you're being serious or sarcastic... :-\
Composer Discussion / Re: Favourite composer names.
« Last post by Biffo on Today at 12:09:38 AM »
Why did he drop the Blimey?    ;D

Probably thought it too much or possibly it is just common usage, like Felix Mendelssohn-Bartholdy is usually known as Felix Mendelssohn
General Classical Music Discussion / Re: What are you listening to now?
« Last post by Que on October 20, 2018, 11:35:21 PM »
Morning listening - revisiting this fascinating recording:

A reconstruction of the funeral music for Charles III (1608) and Henri II (1624), Dukes of Lorraine.
The centerpiece is the Missa pro Defunctis by Charles d'Helfer (1598 - 1661).

The Diner / Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Last post by SimonNZ on October 20, 2018, 11:32:53 PM »
Quoting in full:

Forbes: Federal Lawsuit Alleges Trump's Threats Against The Press Are Unconstitutional

"At a time when the entire world is aghast at President Trump’s delay in condemning the Saudi murder of a Washington Post journalist and horrified at his praise in Montana on Thursday of the unprovoked assault on a US journalist by congressman Greg Gianforte, a lawsuit has been filed alleging that president has been acting unconstitutionally in using powers of the federal government to intimidate and stifle the freedom of the press.

While accepting President Trump’s first amendment rights to “criticize his critics,’ the lawsuit filed on October 16 in the Southern District of New York by PEN America alleges that Trump’s actions

stifle exercise of the constitutional protections of free speech and a free press. Through retaliatory directives to officials in his Administration and credible public threats to use his government powers against news organizations and journalists… the President has violated the First Amendment and his oath to uphold the Constitution.

According to the lawsuit:

President Trump has directed his threats and retaliatory actions at specific outlets whose content and viewpoints he views as hostile. As a result, journalists who report on the President or his Administration reasonably believe they face a credible threat of government retaliation for carrying out the duties of their profession. President Trump has thus intentionally hung a sword of Damocles over the heads of countless writers, journalists, and media entities… His actions seek to accomplish indirectly what the President cannot do directly: impede professional and investigative journalism, and silence criticism.

The Legal Relief Sought

The lawsuit seeks:

an order (a) declaring that Defendant Trump’s retaliatory acts violate the First Amendment, and (b) enjoining Defendant Trump from directing any officer, employee, agency, or other agent or instrumentality of the United States government to take any action against any person or entity in retaliation for speech that the President or his Administration do not like.

The lawsuit is brought by the association of journalists, PEN America, which is represented in this case by the non-profit Protect Democracy and the Yale Law School Media Freedom and Information Access Clinic.

The current president of PEN America, Jennifer Egan, who won the Pulitzer for her novel, A Visit from the Goon Squad, said Trump’s “threats and punitive actions … imperil our free press – one of the cornerstones of a healthy democracy”.

Actions That Go Beyond Criticizing The Critics

The lawsuit is not based on the Trump’s obvious disdain for the press and the legal protections of the First Amendment. Trump has often described criticism of himself as “fake news” and has labeled journalists “the enemy of the American people,” a phrase used by authoritarian rulers to threaten their critics. While such attacks are “troubling and anti-democratic, [they] are not the basis of the lawsuit.” The lawsuit accepts that Trump’s criticism of his critics is protected by the First Amendment.

What the lawsuit alleges is that Trump has done more than criticize his critics. He has:

engaged in conduct intended to retaliate against specific news organizations and journalists whose content and viewpoints displease him. Through his actions, Trump has intentionally conveyed to all writers and journalists that …they may be subject to retaliation by the federal government. That conduct violates the Constitution.

Examples Of Intimidation And Retaliation

The lawsuit alleges that President Trump has retaliated against Amazon.

Trump repeatedly called for action to punish the online retailer Amazon because Jeff Bezos, its chief shareholder and CEO, owns the Washington Post, whose accurate coverage of his Administration the President finds objectionable… The President then followed through on his threats and issued an executive order directing the U.S. Postal Service to review its financial practices, including the shipping rates it offers companies like Amazon… He then personally directed the U.S. Postmaster General to double the rate the Postal Service charges Amazon and other firms to ship packages. On October 11, 2018, the Postal Service announced proposed rate increases, including a proposed 12-percent increase for the Parcel Select service used by Amazon.

It alleges that Trump similarly retaliated against CNN because of its critical coverage.

When Trump first learned during the 2016 campaign that CNN’s parent company, Time Warner, planned to merge with AT&T, he publicly threatened to use the Justice Department’s antitrust merger-review process to retaliate against CNN for its news coverage. Following Defendant Trump’s election, the Justice Department sued to block the merger, despite a long track record of not opposing vertical mergers like the one proposed between Time Warner and AT&T.

The Alleged Effect Of Trump’s Actions: Intimidation

The overall effect of Trump’s actions, according to the lawsuit, is to threaten and intimidate the press from exercising their constitutional duty to report on the actions of the president.

The President’s intent to deter criticism through credible threats of punishment by the government is unmistakable and seeks to shape the landscape in which all coverage and commentary about the President is carried out. His conduct is designed to intimidate not just the specific targets of the President’s retaliatory actions and threats of action, but all who write or speak critically about the President or his Administration… journalists reasonably perceive a credible threat of government retaliation if the President is displeased by their reporting.

The lawsuit alleges that Trump’s actions infringe the freedom of speech and freedom of the press that are guaranteed by the Constitution. Together, these protections prohibit the government from attempting to restrict or otherwise improperly influence the news coverage of government activities through retaliatory acts and threats.

The lawsuit alleges that

Trump has violated these First Amendment rights through his acts that cause reasonable journalists to believe that there are instances in which government power will be used to retaliate against critical speech.

The Role Of The Judiciary In Curbing Presidential Excesses

In other areas, the federal judiciary is also being called up on to curb alleged lawlessness on the part of the president.

In the matter of the prohibition of the emoluments under the Constitution, just last month a federal district judge in Washington held that a group of nearly 200 Democratic senators and representatives has legal standing to sue President Trump for violating the U.S. Constitution’s emoluments provision banning the acceptance of gifts from foreign interests.

In the nomination of Judge Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, the Tenth Circuit has been asked by the Chief Justice himself to investigate judicial misconduct in terms of inappropriate partisan remarks and other matters in Kavanaugh's testimony in the course of the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing.

In a world in which a Republican-controlled Congress is reluctant to hold President Trump accountable for any excesses, the Constitution is increasingly dependent on leadership by the federal judiciary for its protection."
General Classical Music Discussion / Re: Purchases Today
« Last post by Mandryka on October 20, 2018, 10:45:04 PM »


The sound on the Lonquich is fabulous, and the performances are food for thought as is the outstanding booklet essay by the pianist. It’s interesting for me to think about how well his performances match up to the written analysis.
The sound on the Gourari too is very good and my first impressions suggest that there are also things to think about in the performances, there are passages which seem to hover, a stillness, which I find interesting.
The Bacchetti Scarlatti is also interesting, slowed down, refined and rather introspective. It’s quite an original way to take this music.
I’m quite curious about te Bolet, let me know what you make of it.
Composer Discussion / Re: Favourite composer names.
« Last post by brunumb on October 20, 2018, 10:25:13 PM »
Yesterday I found out Franck's full name - César-Auguste-Jean-Guillaume-Hubert Franck - Blimey!
Why did he drop the Blimey?    ;D
General Classical Music Discussion / Re: What are you listening to now?
« Last post by "Harry" on October 20, 2018, 09:53:19 PM »
Yes you could be right! He did say that the cost of hiring the organ was very high though!

It is, for a lot of people are involved, not all volunteers. The maintenance of the organ is high, and they are still struggling with the financial burden from the last organ reconstruction. And the church is in constant structural repair which costs are sky high too, so that probably accounts for the use of the organ.
General Classical Music Discussion / Re: What are you listening to now?
« Last post by Mandryka on October 20, 2018, 09:48:27 PM »
Yes you could be right! He did say that the cost of hiring the organ was very high though!
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