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Title: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on May 08, 2018, 04:19:39 AM

Okay time for the final round, and this time it is an ELIMINATION ROUND which has DIFFERENT RULES from the other games, so familialrise yourself with these ones:

All the pieces will be listed in alphabetical order with a starting total of 5 points

Now, what we have to do is:

- Take it in turns to +1 to one of the piece of our choosing and to either -2 of one of them or -1 on two of them.
- When a piece reaches 0 it is eliminated and then placed into the final rankings.
- The last piece standing after all have been eliminated and sorted into the final ranked list receives the number 1 spot.

Here is an example of how it would work in terms of elimination:

Person A

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 2 (+1)
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître - 1 (-1)
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 1 (-1)
.............................

Person B

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 0 (-2) ELIMINATED
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître - 2 (+1)
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 1

3. Berg - Kammerkonzert
...........................

Person C

Boulez - Le marteau sans maître - 0 (-2) ELIMINATED
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 2 (+1) WINNER

1. Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114
2. Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
3. Berg - Kammerkonzert

You have 1 turn every day as per usual!

Here is the board of 20 compositions, and let the game begin!

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 5
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments - 5
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître - 5
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 5
Brahms - Horn Trio - 5
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 5
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio - 5
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 5
Glass - Music in 12 Parts - 5

Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1 - 5
Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 5
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps - 5
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 5
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet - 5
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 5
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 5
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21 - 5
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24 - 5

I will make my first move in the next post

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on May 08, 2018, 04:20:39 AM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 5
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments - 5
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître - 6 (+1)
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 5
Brahms - Horn Trio - 5
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 5
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio - 5
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 4 (-1)
Glass - Music in 12 Parts - 4 (-1)

Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1 - 5
Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 5
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps - 5
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 5
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet - 5
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 5
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 5
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21 - 5
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24 - 5

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Florestan on May 08, 2018, 04:25:40 AM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 5
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments - 5
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître - 4 (-2)
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 5
Brahms - Horn Trio - 5
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 5
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio - 5
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 5 (+1)
Glass - Music in 12 Parts - 4

Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1 - 5
Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 5
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps - 5
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 5
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet - 5
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 5
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 5
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21 - 5
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24 - 5

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on May 08, 2018, 04:28:39 AM

Oooooooooh OOOOOOH :o Things are getting pretty heated right off the bat!

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Florestan on May 08, 2018, 04:30:02 AM

Quote from: jessop on May 08, 2018, 04:28:39 AM
Oooooooooh OOOOOOH :o Things are getting pretty heated right off the bat!

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: North Star on May 08, 2018, 07:25:40 AM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 5
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments - 5
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître - 4
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 5
Brahms - Horn Trio - 5
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 5
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio - 5
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 5
Glass - Music in 12 Parts - 2 (-2)

Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1 - 5
Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 6 (+1)
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps - 5
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 5
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet - 5
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 5
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 5
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21 - 5
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24 - 5

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: San Antone on May 08, 2018, 07:28:12 AM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 5
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments - 5
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître - 4
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 6 (+1)
Brahms - Horn Trio - 5
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 5
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio - 5
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 5
Glass - Music in 12 Parts - 0 (-2)

Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1 - 5
Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 6
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps - 5
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 5
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet - 5
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 5
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 5
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21 - 5
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24 - 5

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Baron Scarpia on May 08, 2018, 07:35:33 AM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 5
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments - 5
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître - 2 (-2)
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 6
Brahms - Horn Trio - 5
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 5
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio - 5
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 5

Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1 - 5
Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 7 (+1)
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps - 5
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 5
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet - 5
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 5
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 5
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21 - 5
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24 - 5

Eliminated:
Glass - Music in 12 Parts - 0

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: mc ukrneal on May 08, 2018, 07:37:02 AM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 5
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments - 5
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître - 0 (-2)
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 6
Brahms - Horn Trio - 5
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6 (+1)
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio - 5
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 5

Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1 - 5
Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 7
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps - 5
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 5
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet - 5
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 5
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 5
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21 - 5
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24 - 5

Boulez - Le marteau sans maître eliminated

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Baron Scarpia on May 08, 2018, 07:39:28 AM

I think we are supposed to keep the ranked list of pieces eliminated as the final ranking. At least that's my interpretation of the posted rules.

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Mahlerian on May 08, 2018, 08:00:35 AM

One of the best pieces ever written, gone just like that.

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 5
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments - 5
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 6
Brahms - Horn Trio - 5
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio - 3 (-2)
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 5

Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1 - 5
Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 7
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps - 5
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 5
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet - 5
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 5
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 5
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21 - 5
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24 - 6 (+1)

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Sammy on May 08, 2018, 08:13:32 AM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 5
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments - 3 (-2)
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 6
Brahms - Horn Trio - 5
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio - 3
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 5

Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1 - 5
Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 7
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps - 5
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 6 (+1)
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet - 5
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 5
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 5
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21 - 5
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24 - 6

Eliminated:
Glass - Music in 12 Parts
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Sammy on May 08, 2018, 08:19:09 AM

Quote from: Mahlerian on May 08, 2018, 08:00:35 AM
One of the best pieces ever written, gone just like that.

That's what happens in games with negative votes - better get used to it.

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Mahlerian on May 08, 2018, 08:22:57 AM

Quote from: Sammy on May 08, 2018, 08:19:09 AM
That's what happens in games with negative votes - better get used to it.

I've seen it before, but the gleeful spite of others in putting down modernist music bothers me. Can they actually remember a single bar of the damn thing, or did they just dismiss it without understanding?

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Baron Scarpia on May 08, 2018, 08:27:20 AM

I did not experience gleeful spite. I like the other Boulez piece better and don't like maître at all, so I figured best get it out of the way to avoid a split of the Boulez faction. Maybe that will backfire, since two piece would split the Boulez hater faction as well! :)

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Mahlerian on May 08, 2018, 08:33:01 AM

Quote from: Baron Scarpia on May 08, 2018, 08:27:20 AM
I did not experience gleeful spite. I like the other Boulez piece better and don't like maître at all, so I figured best get it out of the way to avoid a split of the Boulez faction. Maybe that will backfire, since two piece would split the Boulez hater faction as well! :)

Do you know Le marteau well enough to remember any of it, though, or are you just going off of a recollection of a lack of enjoyment?

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Baron Scarpia on May 08, 2018, 08:38:56 AM

Quote from: Mahlerian on May 08, 2018, 08:33:01 AM
Do you know Le marteau well enough to remember any of it, though, or are you just going off of a recollection of a lack of enjoyment?

I remember there was singing. Does that get me a pass on the pop quiz? :)

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: San Antone on May 08, 2018, 08:40:49 AM

Quote from: Mahlerian on May 08, 2018, 08:33:01 AM
Do you know Le marteau well enough to remember any of it, though, or are you just going off of a recollection of a lack of enjoyment?

The answer to all of your questions is: none of your business. People are free to vote as they please, and should not have to answer to you or anyone else.

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Mahlerian on May 08, 2018, 08:43:19 AM

Quote from: San Antone on May 08, 2018, 08:40:49 AM
The answer to all of your questions is: none of your business. People are free to vote as they please, and should not have to answer to you or anyone else.

You are correct that people have the right to do what they want, and I agree. Did I contest the result or say that the rules should be changed?

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: San Antone on May 08, 2018, 08:56:08 AM

Quote from: Mahlerian on May 08, 2018, 08:43:19 AM
You are correct that people have the right to do what they want, and I agree. Did I contest the result or say that the rules should be changed?

You might be described by a Yiddish speaker as a Nudnick.

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Baron Scarpia on May 08, 2018, 09:04:10 AM

Quote from: San Antone on May 08, 2018, 08:56:08 AM
You might be described by a Yiddish speaker as a Nudnick.

I learn about music here, and improve my vocabulary! 0:)

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: mc ukrneal on May 08, 2018, 10:35:12 AM

Quote from: Mahlerian on May 08, 2018, 08:22:57 AM
I've seen it before, but the gleeful spite of others in putting down modernist music bothers me. Can they actually remember a single bar of the damn thing, or did they just dismiss it without understanding?

What bothers me is when posters insult other posters. You have interpreted a 'vote down' as gleeful spite. Does that mean all negative votes are made in gleeful spite?

Perhaps a better way to handle this is to explain why you love the piece so much and perhaps your enthusiasm for the piece will spill over enough that someone will listen to it or give it a second chance.

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Sammy on May 08, 2018, 10:43:37 AM

Once upon a time, every game I ran had negative votes. Now, none of them. I think you know why. Personally, I always like games with negative votes - sort of a countdown to zero.

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Baron Scarpia on May 08, 2018, 10:45:49 AM

Quote from: Sammy on May 08, 2018, 10:43:37 AM
Once upon a time, every game I ran had negative votes. Now, none of them. I think you know why. Personally, I always like games with negative votes - sort of a countdown to zero.

I like negative vote games as well. More fun for skints like me. Not everyone can cope, clearly. :)

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Sergeant Rock on May 08, 2018, 12:08:22 PM

I'm not playing this game. I do not enjoy negative voting. I like all these pieces. I cannot imagination down voting any of them. It would be like choosing a favorite from a litter of puppies and killing the ones I didn't choose. Not for me.

Sarge

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: mc ukrneal on May 08, 2018, 12:16:49 PM

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on May 08, 2018, 12:08:22 PM
I'm not playing this game. I do not enjoy negative voting. I like all these pieces. I cannot imagination down voting any of them. It would be like choosing a favorite from a litter of puppies and killing the ones I didn't choose. Not for me.

Sarge

What, now I'm a murderer!?!?! A murderer or little puppies no less!??!?!?! You guys are killing me..ummm.... >:D :-* :)

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Trout on May 08, 2018, 12:29:58 PM

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on May 08, 2018, 12:08:22 PM
I'm not playing this game. I do not enjoy negative voting. I like all these pieces. I cannot imagination down voting any of them. It would be like choosing a favorite from a litter of puppies and killing the ones I didn't choose. Not for me.

Sarge

Amen. I can't do this either.

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Sergeant Rock on May 08, 2018, 12:32:04 PM

Quote from: mc ukrneal on May 08, 2018, 12:16:49 PM
What, now I'm a murderer!?!?! A murderer or little puppies no less!??!?!?! You guys are killing me..ummm.... >:D :-* :)

;D :D ;D

Sarge

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Baron Scarpia on May 08, 2018, 12:38:46 PM

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on May 08, 2018, 12:08:22 PM
I'm not playing this game. I do not enjoy negative voting. I like all these pieces. I cannot imagination down voting any of them. It would be like choosing a favorite from a litter of puppies and killing the ones I didn't choose. Not for me.

Sarge, is this what our military has come to?

"...sorry, sir, I cannot engage the enemy at this time, there appears to be a puppy in my field of fire..."

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Sergeant Rock on May 08, 2018, 12:50:06 PM

Quote from: Baron Scarpia on May 08, 2018, 12:38:46 PM
Sarge, is this what our military has come to?

"...sorry, sir, I cannot engage the enemy at this time, there appears to be a puppy in my field of fire..."

That's actually a serious question (reminds me of the prohibition to kill water buffaloes in Vietnam) but this is not the thread to discuss it ;)

Sarge

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: North Star on May 08, 2018, 12:58:18 PM

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on May 08, 2018, 12:08:22 PM
I'm not playing this game. I do not enjoy negative voting. I like all these pieces. I cannot imagination down voting any of them. It would be like choosing a favorite from a litter of puppies and killing the ones I didn't choose. Not for me.

Sarge

I'm inclined to agree.

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Sammy on May 08, 2018, 02:33:16 PM

We now have 3 regulars who apparently are not going to participate further, and that's why I stopped running games with negative votes.

I have a suggestion for Jessop - you could cancel out this particular final elimination round and start another one without negative votes or keep going as it. Of course, I'll continue voting whatever you decide.

If anyone was to ask me why we should change gears, my answer would be couched in terms of participation rates. Sure, those of us who continue could just keep at it, but a game without decent participation sucks. I want to influence game outcomes, not control or be the outcome.

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: San Antone on May 08, 2018, 02:52:55 PM

While I understand Sarge's point, my opinion is this is a harmless game. But, if too many people opt out, then as Sammy says there won't be enough members for it to work. The idea of this kind of game is for a consensus to emerge and a meaningful ranking of the works to result. In the process some works would be voted out.

For me it would be an interesting exercise.

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Baron Scarpia on May 08, 2018, 03:04:34 PM

I agree with San Antone. Some works will rise to the top and others will fall to the bottom. Whether they fall due to negative votes in this style game or failure to get positive votes in the other style, the result is the same. They can't all win. The elimination round rules give a different twist to the game, and I think the strategies involved could be entertaining. In the end it is a harmless game where we try to advance our favorite games to the top of the list, nothing more.

In any case, I will participate in this game, whether the rules are changed or not.

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on May 08, 2018, 03:28:05 PM

Okay this is turning out interestingly. The negative votes were intended just to help place pieces in a certain order because as far as I care every piece here has been determined a 'winner' in that they have made it to the final round. I could, with a bit more difficulty, sort them into their 'places' based on the upvotes they have received in the previous rounds but that would be less interactive.

I want to have a final round where all pieces get quickly sorted into a top 20 list (as in my heart all these pieces have won based on the votes in the previous rounds). I either want to do this game or put all these pieces into a poll where you click on a button to vote for the five that you like best, so considering that I'll just ask the following question: do you want to continue with this sorting game, shall we have a poll, or shall we have a Sammy style upvote to 100 points game where there is a definite winner?

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Baron Scarpia on May 08, 2018, 03:36:18 PM

The poll sounds dull, but I would still vote. Either the up-vote game or the current elimination game are more attractive.

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Sammy on May 08, 2018, 03:38:45 PM

Quote from: jessop on May 08, 2018, 03:28:05 PM
Okay this is turning out interestingly. The negative votes were intended just to help place pieces in a certain order because as far as I care every piece here has been determined a 'winner' in that they have made it to the final round. I could, with a bit more difficulty, sort them into their 'places' based on the upvotes they have received in the previous rounds but that would be less interactive.

I want to have a final round where all pieces get quickly sorted into a top 20 list (as in my heart all these pieces have won based on the votes in the previous rounds). I either want to do this game or put all these pieces into a poll where you click on a button to vote for the five that you like best, so considering that I'll just ask the following question: do you want to continue with this sorting game, shall we have a poll, or shall we have a Sammy style upvote to 100 points game where there is a definite winner?

You could do an upvote game with bonus points; it's being done right now on another website (not by me - no vested interest).

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: mc ukrneal on May 08, 2018, 03:40:14 PM

I like the negative voting. I wonder if there is a correlation with negative voting and the ability to keep to the posted limits (top 5, top 10, etc.)?!?!

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: San Antone on May 08, 2018, 03:41:25 PM

Quote from: Baron Scarpia on May 08, 2018, 03:36:18 PM
The poll sounds dull, but I would still vote. Either the up-vote game or the current elimination game are more attractive.

I agree with this.

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Baron Scarpia on May 08, 2018, 03:57:49 PM

Quote from: mc ukrneal on May 08, 2018, 03:40:14 PM
I like the negative voting. I wonder if there is a correlation with negative voting and the ability to keep to the posted limits (top 5, top 10, etc.)?!?!

I also like the elimination game.

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on May 08, 2018, 04:16:44 PM

Quote from: San Antone on May 08, 2018, 02:52:55 PM
While I understand Sarge's point, my opinion is this is a harmless game. But, if too many people opt out, then as Sammy says there won't be enough members for it to work. The idea of this kind of game is for a consensus to emerge and a meaningful ranking of the works to result. In the process some works would be voted out.

For me it would be an interesting exercise.

I have done this with operas on an opera forum before, ending up with a ranking of preferences for Wagner which was immensely fun, but not all games work in every forum as I really get a sense the atmosphere, humour and style of communication are unique to each one. Downvotes are evidently not so popular here because of that.

Here is the result of the Wagner game:

1. Die Walküre
2. Tristan und Isolde
3. Götterdämmerung
4. Das Rheingold
5. Lohengrin
6. Siegfried
7. Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg
8. Tannhäuser
9. Der Fliegende Holländer
10. Parsifal
11. Rienzi
12. Die Feen
13. Das Liebesverbot

Actually I tried to do this here with the same rules, but again the voter turnout ended up being so low that after a while people just left and the thread died a sad and lonely death. :laugh:

I will do a new final round for this game to see if we can sort out a final top 20 list based on upvotes and bonus points, if we prefer doing that here. 8)

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: André on May 08, 2018, 07:09:40 PM

I'll keep an eye on this particular pinata from a distance.

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on May 08, 2018, 07:17:14 PM

I'm going to redo this final round to make sure more people are willing to participate, no more voting in this thread!

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Florestan on May 09, 2018, 06:36:31 AM

Such a big fuss, bordering on saccharine melodrama, for an innocuous and inconsequential game... Blimey, some people have absolutely no sense of proportion, let alone humor! Clearly, too much "serious" music damages the brain... >:D :P

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Baron Scarpia on May 09, 2018, 08:00:17 AM

On the other hand, where's the fun if my motives are going to be impugned because I didn't vote for one of the "greatest pieces ever written?" I won't be participating further.

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Florestan on May 10, 2018, 12:13:17 AM

Quote from: Baron Scarpia on May 09, 2018, 08:00:17 AM
I won't be participating further.

Neither will I. I have already reached a saturation point with these games.

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Baron Scarpia on May 10, 2018, 08:06:43 AM

Quote from: Florestan on May 10, 2018, 12:13:17 AM
Neither will I. I have already reached a saturation point with these games.

I'm not participating in this game, I am participating in other games.

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Ken B on May 10, 2018, 02:14:04 PM

Quote from: Mahlerian on May 08, 2018, 08:00:35 AM
One of the best pieces ever written, gone just like that.

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 5
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments - 5
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 6
Brahms - Horn Trio - 5
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio - 3 (-2)
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 5

Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1 - 5
Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 7
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps - 5
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 5
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet - 5
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 5
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 5
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21 - 5
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24 - 6 (+1)

Well I like Music in 12 Parts too, but "one of the best pieces ever written" seems a tad over the top.

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on May 10, 2018, 06:06:36 PM

Considering a lack of interest, I think I will just leave the two rounds as they are

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Ken B on May 10, 2018, 06:09:20 PM

Quote from: jessop on May 10, 2018, 06:06:36 PM
Considering a lack of interest, I think I will just leave the two rounds as they are

Sigh. Too bad.

But Marteau stays eliminated, right? ;)

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: mc ukrneal on May 10, 2018, 06:12:16 PM

Quote from: Ken B on May 10, 2018, 06:09:20 PM
Sigh. Too bad.

But Marteau stays eliminated, right? ;)

Nope. Just the Boulez!! :) hahahaha!

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: mc ukrneal on May 11, 2018, 04:40:19 AM

Based on the last vote, Martinu won (by default).

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round) It Begins Again!!
Post by: Baron Scarpia on May 11, 2018, 06:06:59 AM

Let the game resume! Under the original rules, elimination style!

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 5
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments - 3
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 6
Brahms - Horn Trio - 5
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio - 1 (-2)
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 5

Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1 - 6 (+1)
Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 7
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps - 5
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 6
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet - 5
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 5
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 5
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21 - 5
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24 - 6

Eliminated:
Glass - Music in 12 Parts
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round) It Begins Again!!
Post by: Ken B on May 11, 2018, 07:21:43 AM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 5
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments - 3
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 6
Brahms - Horn Trio - 6(+1)
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio - 1
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 5

Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1 - 6
Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 7
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps - 5
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 6
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet - 5
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 5
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 5
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21 - 3(-2)
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24 - 6

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: San Antone on May 11, 2018, 08:00:33 AM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 5
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments - 2 (-1)
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 6
Brahms - Horn Trio - 6
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio - 1
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 5

Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1 - 6
Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 7
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps - 5
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 6
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet - 5
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6 (+1)
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 5
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21 - 2 (-1)
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24 - 6

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Sammy on May 11, 2018, 09:54:51 AM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 5
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments - 2
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 6
Brahms - Horn Trio - 6
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio - 1
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 5

Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1 - 6
Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 7
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps - 3 (-2)
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 7 (+1)
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet - 5
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 5
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21 - 2
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24 - 6

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Florestan on May 11, 2018, 10:05:07 AM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 5
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments - 2
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 6
Brahms - Horn Trio - 6
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio - 1
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 6 (+1)

Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1 - 6
Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 7
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps - 3 (-2)
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 7 (+1)
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet - 5
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 5
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21 - 0 (-2)
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24 - 6

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Baron Scarpia on May 11, 2018, 10:12:35 AM

It is important to keep the ranked list of eliminated items, since that is to become the final ranked result of this game. I'm observing the convention that most recently eliminated piece goes on the top of the eliminated list. The Glass was eliminated first, so it has to lowest ranking, at the bottom of the list.

The result of Florestan's play:

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 5
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments - 2
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 6
Brahms - Horn Trio - 6
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio - 1
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 6 (+1)

Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1 - 6
Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 7
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps - 3 (-2)
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 7 (+1)
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet - 5
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 5
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24 - 6

Eliminated:
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Baron Scarpia on May 11, 2018, 10:16:05 AM

Three puppies down, 16 to go. >:D :laugh:

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: San Antone on May 11, 2018, 11:12:58 AM

I like this game a little bit more than the regular positive-only voting games since it yields a ranked list of all the works, not just the top 3 or 5.

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Ken B on May 11, 2018, 11:21:59 AM

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Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Baron Scarpia on May 12, 2018, 08:46:05 PM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 5
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments - 3 (+1)
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 6
Brahms - Horn Trio - 6
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio - 1 (-1) eliminated
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 6

Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1 - 6
Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 7
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps - 3
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 7
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet - 4 (-1)
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 5
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24 - 6

Eliminated:
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on May 12, 2018, 08:54:01 PM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 5
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments - 4 (+1)
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 6
Brahms - Horn Trio - 6
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 6

Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1 - 6
Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 7
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps - 3
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 5 (-2)
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet - 4
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 5
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24 - 6

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Sammy on May 12, 2018, 09:02:11 PM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 5
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments - 4
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 6
Brahms - Horn Trio - 6
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 6

Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1 - 6
Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 7
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps - 3
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 6 (+1)
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet - 4
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 5
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24 - 4 (-2)

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: GioCar on May 12, 2018, 10:55:58 PM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 5
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments - 4
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 6
Brahms - Horn Trio - 6
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 6

Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1 - 6
Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 7
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps - 4 (+1)
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 6
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet - 2 (-2)
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 5
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24 - 4

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Florestan on May 13, 2018, 08:15:19 AM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 5
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments - 4
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 6
Brahms - Horn Trio - 6
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 7 (+1)

Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1 - 6
Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 7
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps - 4 (+1)
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 6
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet - 0 (-2) eliminated
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 5
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24 - 4

Eliminated:

Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: North Star on May 13, 2018, 08:33:54 AM

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Ken B on May 13, 2018, 11:27:25 AM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 5
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments - 2(-2)
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 6
Brahms - Horn Trio - 6
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 5

Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1 - 6
Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 8
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps - 4
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 7(+1)
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 5
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24 - 4

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: San Antone on May 13, 2018, 11:30:37 AM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 5
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments - 2
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 7 (+1)
Brahms - Horn Trio - 6
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 5

Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1 - 4 (-2)
Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 8
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps - 4
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 7
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 5
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24 - 4

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Baron Scarpia on May 13, 2018, 08:18:38 PM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 5
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments - 2 (-2) eliminated
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 7 (+1)
Brahms - Horn Trio - 6
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 5

Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1 - 4
Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 9 (+1)
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps - 4
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 7
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 5
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24 - 4

Eliminated
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Ken B on May 13, 2018, 08:50:58 PM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 5
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 7
Brahms - Horn Trio - 6
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 5

Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1 - 4
Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 9
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps - 4
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 8(+1)
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 3(-2)
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24 - 4

Eliminated
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: GioCar on May 13, 2018, 08:57:36 PM

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Sammy on May 13, 2018, 10:03:05 PM

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Florestan on May 13, 2018, 10:51:24 PM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 5
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 7
Brahms - Horn Trio - 6
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 6 (+1)

Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1 - 4
Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 8
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps - 4
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 9 (+1)
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 4
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24 - 0 (-2) eliminated

Eliminated:

Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on May 13, 2018, 11:11:31 PM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 5
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 6 (-1)
Brahms - Horn Trio - 6
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 5 (-1)

Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1 - 4
Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 8
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps - 5 (+1)
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 9
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 4

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: San Antone on May 14, 2018, 02:09:25 AM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 5
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 7 (+1)
Brahms - Horn Trio - 6
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 5

Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1 - 2 (-2)
Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 8
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps - 5
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 9
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 4

Eliminated:

Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Baron Scarpia on May 14, 2018, 08:55:12 PM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 5
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 7
Brahms - Horn Trio - 6
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 5

Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1 - 0 (-2) eliminated
Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 8
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps - 5
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 9
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 5 (+1)

Eliminated:
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Sammy on May 14, 2018, 10:03:21 PM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 5
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 7
Brahms - Horn Trio - 6
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 5

Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 8
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps - 3 (-2)
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 10 (+1)
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 5

Eliminated:
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: San Antone on May 15, 2018, 01:58:31 AM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 5
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 8 (+1)
Brahms - Horn Trio - 6
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 5

Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 8
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps - 1 (-2)
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 10
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 5

Eliminated:
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Florestan on May 15, 2018, 02:06:10 AM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 5
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 8
Brahms - Horn Trio - 6
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 6 (+1)

Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 7 (-1)
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps - 0 (-1) eliminated
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 10
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 5

Eliminated:
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Baron Scarpia on May 15, 2018, 06:26:09 AM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 5
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 8
Brahms - Horn Trio - 6
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 6

Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 7
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 3 (-2)
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 10
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 6 (+1)

Eliminated:
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: North Star on May 15, 2018, 06:43:51 AM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 5
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 8
Brahms - Horn Trio - 6
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 4 (-2)

Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 8 (+1)
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 3
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 10
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 6

Eliminated:
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on May 15, 2018, 06:46:52 AM

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Ken B on May 15, 2018, 10:00:40 AM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 3(-2)
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 8
Brahms - Horn Trio - 6
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 3(+1)

Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 8
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 4
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 10
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 6

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: San Antone on May 15, 2018, 11:52:53 AM

I thought we were supposed to include the eliminated works? That would end up being the final list.

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Sammy on May 15, 2018, 12:00:16 PM

Quote from: San Antone on May 15, 2018, 11:52:53 AM
I thought we were supposed to include the eliminated works? That would end up being the final list.

Yes, that was the gameplan although I don't know if it's a good one. This is essentially a "knockout" game where only one work is left standing with the others being history.

However, have a list or not - I'm good with either approach, and I have been keeping the elimination list on my voting posts. I'm an agreeable soul. 8)

I do have a question. Is anyone in charge of this game? Well, after looking over the previous pages, I'd say that Baron Scarpia is the game runner. All hail Baron Scarpia!!

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Baron Scarpia on May 15, 2018, 01:28:55 PM

I still think of it as jessop's game, I just decided to start voting again and others joined in. However, I can be the "runner" if jessop doesn't want to.

The ranking of the eliminated pieces was specified in the original rules. Maybe it will soften the blow for anti puppy-killers. The puppies are still there, watching from the sidelines. :laugh:

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Ken B on May 15, 2018, 02:14:56 PM

Quote from: Baron Scarpia on May 15, 2018, 01:28:55 PM
I still think of it as jessop's game, I just decided to start voting again and others joined in. However, I can be the "runner" if jessop doesn't want to.

The ranking of the eliminated pieces was specified in the original rules. Maybe it will soften the blow for anti puppy-killers. The puppies are still there, watching from the sidelines. :laugh:

I see a score of 2, I cry out "dead puppy walking!"

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on May 15, 2018, 02:45:34 PM

Yeah I put the list in my posts when one is eliminated/added to the list. In the end every work will be ordered from 1 to 20.

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Ken B on May 15, 2018, 04:40:49 PM

Quote from: jessop on May 15, 2018, 02:45:34 PM
Yeah I put the list in my posts when one is eliminated/added to the list. In the end every work will be ordered from 1 to 20.

A useful idea. It would be clearer though if we labeled them ex-puppies, puppies who joined the choir invisibule, puppies who wouldn't vrroom if you put 5000 volts through them.

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Sammy on May 15, 2018, 10:12:01 PM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 3
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 6 (-2)
Brahms - Horn Trio - 6
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 3

Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 8
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 4
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 11 (+1)
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 6

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: San Antone on May 15, 2018, 10:17:02 PM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 3
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 7 (+1)
Brahms - Horn Trio - 6
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 3

Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 8
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 4
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 9 (-2)
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 6

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Florestan on May 16, 2018, 12:31:15 AM

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: North Star on May 16, 2018, 01:09:20 AM

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Baron Scarpia on May 16, 2018, 07:29:37 AM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 3
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 7
Brahms - Horn Trio - 6
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33 - 0 (-2) eliminated

Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 8 (+1)
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 4
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 9
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 6

Eliminated:
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on May 16, 2018, 02:53:20 PM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 3
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 7
Brahms - Horn Trio - 4 (-2)
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 5

Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 8
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5 (+1)
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 9
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 6

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Ken B on May 16, 2018, 05:00:44 PM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 2(-1) DEAD PUPPY WALKING
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 7
Brahms - Horn Trio - 5(+1)
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 4(-1)

Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 8
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 9
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 6

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Florestan on May 16, 2018, 10:55:54 PM

Berg - Kammerkonzert - 0 (-2) eliminated
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 7
Brahms - Horn Trio - 5
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 4

Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 8
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 10 (+1)
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 6

Eliminated:
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on May 17, 2018, 12:10:14 AM

Quote from: Florestan on May 16, 2018, 10:55:54 PM
Berg - Kammerkonzert - 0 (-2) eliminated
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 7
Brahms - Horn Trio - 5
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 4

Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 8
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 10 (+1)
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 6

Eliminated:
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

You have to redo this post because you took away 2 points from a work on 1 point. Probably take away 1 point from the Berg and 1 point from something else. In the meantime, we will continue from Ken B's post.

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: North Star on May 17, 2018, 12:31:25 AM

Quote from: jessop on May 17, 2018, 12:10:14 AM
You have to redo this post because you took away 2 points from a work on 1 point. Probably take away 1 point from the Berg and 1 point from something else. In the meantime, we will continue from Ken B's post.

The Kammerkonzert had 3 points before Ken took 1 point away from it, and then 2 points which Florestan took away.

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Sammy on May 17, 2018, 12:45:32 AM

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 7
Brahms - Horn Trio - 5
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 4

Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 6 (-2)
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 11 (+1)
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 6

Eliminated:
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on May 17, 2018, 12:58:48 AM

Quote from: North Star on May 17, 2018, 12:31:25 AM
The Kammerkonzert had 3 points before Ken took 1 point away from it, and then 2 points which Florestan took away.

My bad, I misread the post, please continue from Florestan's

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: San Antone on May 17, 2018, 02:22:42 AM

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 8 (+1)
Brahms - Horn Trio - 5
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 4

Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 4 (-2)
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 11
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 6

Eliminated:
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: North Star on May 17, 2018, 02:32:41 AM

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 8
Brahms - Horn Trio - 3 (-2)
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 4

Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 5 (+1)
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 11
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 6

Eliminated:
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Baron Scarpia on May 17, 2018, 06:16:19 AM

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 8
Brahms - Horn Trio - 2 (-1)
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 4

Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 6 (+1)
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 4 (-1)
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 11
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 6

Hands off the Nonet!

Eliminated:
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Florestan on May 17, 2018, 09:46:28 AM

Quote from: Baron Scarpia on May 17, 2018, 06:16:19 AM
Hands off the Nonet!

Can hardly wait for the opportunity to kill it! It'll be the most precious trophy of my new career as a merciless puppy-killer! ;D

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Baron Scarpia on May 17, 2018, 09:48:58 AM

Quote from: Florestan on May 17, 2018, 09:46:28 AM
Can hardly wait for the opportunity to kill it! It'll be the most precious trophy of my new career as a merciless puppy-killer! ;D

Revenge for the killing of your sick puppy Enescu, I assume. Bring it on!

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Ken B on May 17, 2018, 02:50:20 PM

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 8
Brahms - Horn Trio - 3(+1)
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 4

Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 4(-2)
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 4
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 11
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 6

Eliminated:
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Ken B on May 17, 2018, 02:51:54 PM

I actually quite like the Nonet. Certainly more than several things left. But it seemed the thing to do. >:D

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: San Antone on May 17, 2018, 02:57:22 PM

I think it isn't about voting down works we "don't like" so much as (in our own minds) ranking the works and voting them down in reverse order of preference. I like all these works, but some more than others. So I will be voting them down in reverse order of my likes.

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on May 17, 2018, 04:18:11 PM

Quote from: San Antone on May 17, 2018, 02:57:22 PM
I think it isn't about voting down works we "don't like" so much as (in our own minds) ranking the works and voting them down in reverse order of preference. I like all these works, but some more than others. So I will be voting them down in reverse order of my likes.

This is precisely the point of the game. It's about creating an order of the winning works in the other rounds. +1ing a work that is already in a safe position (above 6 points) doesn't really put the +1 vote to much use. The idea is that a greater number of votes counting down to 0 means a general consensus can be achieved.

My thought process is this: I would personally prefer to listen to Mozart's serenade no. 10 maybe a tiny bit more than Mozart's Quintet for Piano and Winds, so I will attempt to bring each of the votes closer together. 11 points is extremely high; no work has ever garnered so many points in a game like this I have run elsewhere, so it would probably be more interesting to bring it down into the realm of single digits. I love both works very very much!

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 8
Brahms - Horn Trio - 3
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 4

Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 4
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5 (+1)
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 9 (-2)
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 6

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Sammy on May 17, 2018, 06:39:14 PM

Quote from: jessop on May 17, 2018, 04:18:11 PM
This is precisely the point of the game. It's about creating an order of the winning works in the other rounds. +1ing a work that is already in a safe position (above 6 points) doesn't really put the +1 vote to much use. The idea is that a greater number of votes counting down to 0 means a general consensus can be achieved.

Well, I don't give any thought to creating an order or a general consensus. For me, the point of a knockout game is to get rid of all the works that stand in the way of my favored work being the last one standing. Also, I don't think that any work is in a safe position until it's the only one left.

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Sammy on May 17, 2018, 10:17:16 PM

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 6 (-2)
Brahms - Horn Trio - 3
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 4

Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 4
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 10 (+1)
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 6

Eliminated:
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: North Star on May 18, 2018, 12:20:04 AM

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 6
Brahms - Horn Trio - 1 (-2)
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 4

Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 5 (+1)
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 10
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 6

Eliminated:
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Florestan on May 18, 2018, 01:28:52 AM

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 6
Brahms - Horn Trio - 1
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 4

Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 3 (-2)
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 11 (+1)
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 6

Eliminated:
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Florestan on May 18, 2018, 01:30:46 AM

Quote from: Baron Scarpia on May 17, 2018, 09:48:58 AM
Revenge for the killing of your sick puppy Enescu, I assume. Bring it on!

It's you who killed Enescu? I wasn't aware of that. Way to go!

Normally I could / should have killed Brahms's Horn Trio but bringing the Nonet closer to extinction is funnier.

Honestly, I have no stake in this game and I couldn't care less who wins, I just react to the saccharine "killing puppies" melodrama.

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: San Antone on May 18, 2018, 03:30:02 AM

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 7 (+1)
Brahms - Horn Trio - 1
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 4

Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 2 (-1)
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 4 (-1)
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 11
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 6

Eliminated:
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Baron Scarpia on May 18, 2018, 05:57:52 AM

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 7
Brahms - Horn Trio - 1
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 4

Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 0 (-2) eliminated
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 4
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 11
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 7 (+1)

Go gentle into the good night, little puppy.

Eliminated:
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Florestan on May 18, 2018, 09:31:25 AM

Quote from: Baron Scarpia on May 18, 2018, 05:57:52 AM
Martinu - Nonet (H314) - 0 (-2) eliminated

Go gentle into the good night, little puppy.

Hah! That's the spirit! :laugh:

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Ken B on May 18, 2018, 08:25:16 PM

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 7
Brahms - Horn Trio - 1
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 4

Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5(+1)
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 11
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 4(-2)
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 7

Eliminated:
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on May 18, 2018, 08:34:37 PM

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 6 (-1)
Brahms - Horn Trio - 0 (-1) eliminated
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 4

Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 11
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 5 (+1)
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 7

Eliminated:
Brahms - Horn Trio
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Sammy on May 18, 2018, 10:17:17 PM

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 6
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 4

Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 5
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 12 (+1)
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 5
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 5 (-2)

Eliminated:
Brahms - Horn Trio
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: North Star on May 18, 2018, 10:24:36 PM

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 6
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 6
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 4

Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 3 (-2)
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 12
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6 (+1)
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 5

Eliminated:
Brahms - Horn Trio
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: San Antone on May 19, 2018, 01:38:34 AM

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 7 (+1)
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 4 (-2)
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 4

Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 3
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 12
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 5

Eliminated:
Brahms - Horn Trio
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Florestan on May 19, 2018, 03:45:38 AM

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 7
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 4
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 4

Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 3
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 13 (+1)
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 3 (-2)

Eliminated:
Brahms - Horn Trio
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Ken B on May 19, 2018, 07:38:41 AM

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 8(+1)
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 4
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 4

Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 3
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 13
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 5(-1)
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 2 (-1) DEAD PUPPY WALKING

Eliminated:
Brahms - Horn Trio
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on May 19, 2018, 08:14:29 PM

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Baron Scarpia on May 19, 2018, 08:23:00 PM

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 8
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 4
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 4

Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita" - 0 (-2) eliminated
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 13
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 5
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 4 (+1)

Eliminated:
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita"
Brahms - Horn Trio
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Ken B on May 19, 2018, 08:55:42 PM

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 8
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 4
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 2(-2) DEAD PUPPY WALKING

Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 14(+1)
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 5
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 4

Eliminated:
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita"
Brahms - Horn Trio
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

It's now 1am here

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Sammy on May 19, 2018, 10:30:21 PM

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 6 (-2)
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 4
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 2

Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 15 (+1)
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 5
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 4

Eliminated:
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita"
Brahms - Horn Trio
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: San Antone on May 20, 2018, 02:58:58 AM

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 7 (+1)
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 2 (-2)
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 2

Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 15
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 5
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 4

Eliminated:
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita"
Brahms - Horn Trio
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: North Star on May 20, 2018, 03:52:10 AM

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 7
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 2
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp - 0 (-2) eliminated

Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 15
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6 (+1)
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 4

Eliminated:
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita"
Brahms - Horn Trio
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Florestan on May 20, 2018, 06:46:13 AM

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 7
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version) - 0 (-2) eliminated
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 16 (+1)
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 6
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 4

Eliminated:
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version)
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita"
Brahms - Horn Trio
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Baron Scarpia on May 20, 2018, 08:30:31 PM

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 7
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 17 (+1)
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 4 (-2)
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 4

Eliminated:
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version)
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita"
Brahms - Horn Trio
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: North Star on May 20, 2018, 09:20:22 PM

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 5 (-2)
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 17
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 5 (+1)
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 4

Eliminated:
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version)
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita"
Brahms - Horn Trio
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Ken B on May 20, 2018, 09:37:38 PM

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 6(+1)
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 17
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 4(-1)
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 3(-1)

Eliminated:
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version)
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita"
Brahms - Horn Trio
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Florestan on May 20, 2018, 10:53:43 PM

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 7 (+1)
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 17
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 3 (-1)
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 2 (-1)

Eliminated:
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version)
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita"
Brahms - Horn Trio
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Sammy on May 20, 2018, 11:45:12 PM

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 5 (-2)
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 18 (+1)
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 3
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 2

Eliminated:
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version)
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita"
Brahms - Horn Trio
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: San Antone on May 21, 2018, 12:12:25 AM

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 6 (+1)
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 18
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 3
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9 - 0 (-2)

Eliminated:
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version)
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita"
Brahms - Horn Trio
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Baron Scarpia on May 21, 2018, 06:21:26 AM

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 6
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 19 (+1)
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 1 (-2)

Eliminated:
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version)
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita"
Brahms - Horn Trio
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: North Star on May 21, 2018, 02:13:44 PM

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 4 (-2)
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 19
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 2 (+1)

Eliminated:
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version)
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita"
Brahms - Horn Trio
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Ken B on May 21, 2018, 08:04:37 PM

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 4
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 20(+1)
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé - 0 DEAD PUPPY

Eliminated:
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version)
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita"
Brahms - Horn Trio
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Florestan on May 21, 2018, 10:22:27 PM

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 2 (-2)
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 21 (+1)

Eliminated:
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version)
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita"
Brahms - Horn Trio
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Sammy on May 21, 2018, 10:36:11 PM

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114 - 0 (-2)
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds - 22 (+1)

Eliminated:
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version)
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita"
Brahms - Horn Trio
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Florestan on May 22, 2018, 12:00:07 AM

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Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: Baron Scarpia on May 22, 2018, 12:20:38 AM

Hurray!

Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds

Eliminated:
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version)
Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita"
Brahms - Horn Trio
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Glass - Music in 12 Parts

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on May 22, 2018, 12:40:48 AM

1. Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds
2. Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114
3. Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé
4. Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9
5. Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version)
6. Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp
7. Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita"
8. Brahms - Horn Trio
9. Martinu - Nonet (H314)
10. Berg - Kammerkonzert
11. Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
12. Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
13. Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
14. Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
15. Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
16. Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
17. Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
18. Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
19. Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
20. Glass - Music in 12 Parts

I am surprised that Dérive 2 was placed higher than Le marteau sans maître and Pierrot Lunaire!

Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (Final Elimination Round)
Post by: San Antone on May 22, 2018, 01:04:39 AM

Quote from: jessop on May 22, 2018, 12:40:48 AM
1. Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds
2. Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114
3. Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé
4. Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9
5. Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version)
6. Debussy - Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp
7. Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita"
8. Brahms - Horn Trio
9. Martinu - Nonet (H314)
10. Berg - Kammerkonzert
11. Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
12. Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
13. Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
14. Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
15. Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
16. Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
17. Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
18. Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
19. Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
20. Glass - Music in 12 Parts

I am surprised that Dérive 2 was placed higher than Le marteau sans maître and Pierrot Lunaire!

I would have been ecstatic had Copland been eliminated before Debussy. But, other than that, a pretty decent ranking.

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