What will happen to this Music Library (under 1000 CDs) after I'm gone? I'd rather just have it mailed to one of my trusted here, and let them decide.
I'd currently be too lazy to whip up a Database for you, but, you can pretty well guess by this point, lol,...
Anyhow, any ideas welcome...
First reaction, Not Me!
Second reaction, are you planning on checking out soon?
Third reaction, have someone cart it over to the local library basement shop.
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Gimme your NEOS box sets 8)
A thread like this is how people meet with unfortunate accidents... I hear Hilary is after your Poulenc discs... Stay away from Pizza Parlors...
Quote from: The One on April 30, 2018, 09:19:22 AM
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(PICTURE!!!)
NOOOOO!!!You might consider a college music library, or find a younger relative who is - or could become - interested in classical music, or find a budding composer who would appreciate them.
I have been wondering myself recently - since 7 decades are nearly complete, and since too many of my contemporaries, younger ones, have died in the past year or so - what will happen to the vast
Cato Archives, which contains many books in Latin, Ancient Greek, and German, along with hundreds of books on Ancient, Medieval, and Modern European History, not to mention novels, biographies, and many many music books.
And this concern comes after I have already donated many things, some to people here.
My 3 children? Hoo-Ha-Haaa!!! It is to laugh! $:)
What a depressing thread! ??? ::)
Quote from: Cato on April 30, 2018, 03:44:43 PM
NOOOOO!!!
You might consider a college music library, or find a younger relative who is - or could become - interested in classical music, or find a budding composer who would appreciate them.
I have been wondering myself recently - since 7 decades are nearly complete, and since too many of my contemporaries, younger ones, have died in the past year or so - what will happen to the vast Cato Archives, which contains many books in Latin, Ancient Greek, and German, along with hundreds of books on Ancient, Medieval, and Modern European History, not to mention novels, biographies, and many many music books.
Have you visited one of these lovely facilities? That's some of my stuff in the foreground. :)
I still have something like 600 CDs in my room once owned by the (now deceased) grandfather of someone I haven't had anything to do with for years.
I don't think it's a good idea to ask these kinds of questions. I have a good library of books in English, but nobody in my family circle would be able to read a single page in that language. I'm pretty sure that I'll outlive anybody I know personally who has even a passing interest in classical music. I can't speak for the rest of the people here, but I pretty much exist in a vacuum, with no partner or children who could be relied upon to carry the torch when I'm gone. In my opinion, the best thing, if one has enough time to plan it, is to make a big bonfire with it all and throw a big party.
Quote from: Abuelo Igor on May 01, 2018, 02:26:59 AMIn my opinion, the best thing, if one has enough time to plan it, is to make a big bonfire with it all and throw a big party.
That's not actually the most environmentally friendly choice. 0:)
Quote from: jessop on April 30, 2018, 11:48:20 PM
I still have something like 600 CDs in my room once owned by the (now deceased) grandfather of someone I haven't had anything to do with for years.
All classical?
I've thought about this. I don't have anyone in my family who would know what to do with my CD collection. I don't even play CDs myself! Everything is on the music server. I should probably start selling/giving them away now.
And then there is the Lp collection, sigh.
And then what about all the electronics? I should keep instructions somewhere on how to dispose of all of it.
Notice how snyprrr hasn't even bothered to respond to this thread. Either he's laughing his ass off at this thread (and us) or he's seriously in some kind of danger.
https://www.youtube.com/v/MvgN5gCuLac
It does prompt me to think about the shocking amount of stuff I've accumulated that no one will want to deal with when I'm gone.
It really doesn't matter to me what happens to all of my recordings once I'm gone as they're certainly not coming with me. They will either be a problem or a blessing for whoever finds them. :)
Quote from: Mirror Image on May 01, 2018, 06:59:15 PM
It really doesn't matter to me what happens to all of my recordings once I'm gone as they're certainly not coming with me. They will either be a problem or a blessing for whoever finds them. :)
Yeah, that's a good way to look at it. :)
A while back
vandermolen posted about taking vinyl to charity shops and the almost cathartic aspect of the process. And with that in mind I finally got rid of some guitars. Also, I'd planned to sell off/donate a lot of photography equipment (at this stage, how many times over do I need to cover the working range with 2.8 zooms?) but found I required it for an ongoing job.
Anyway, I don't believe any of us are completely immune to consumerism. So I'll probably end up buying more crap that I've momentarily invented justification for owning. ;D
Quote from: NikF on May 01, 2018, 08:18:25 PM
Yeah, that's a good way to look at it. :)
A while back vandermolen posted about taking vinyl to charity shops and the almost cathartic aspect of the process. And with that in mind I finally got rid of some guitars. Also, I'd planned to sell off/donate a lot of photography equipment (at this stage, how many times over do I need to cover the working range with 2.8 zooms?) but found I required it for an ongoing job.
Anyway, I don't believe any of us are completely immune to consumerism. So I'll probably end up buying more crap that I've momentarily invented justification for owning. ;D
:) All our earthly possessions don't really matter in the end. I will say that had I not been able to buy what I've been so fortunate enough to acquire through the years, I may have went insane only relying on streaming services and such. I'm an old-fashioned guy I suppose in the regard that I like to actually physically hold what I just bought in my hands.
Quote from: Daverz on May 01, 2018, 05:54:56 PM
I've thought about this. I don't have anyone in my family who would know what to do with my CD collection. I don't even play CDs myself! Everything is on the music server. I should probably start selling/giving them away now.
That poses a different problem though - if you have your personal copies don't you have to either keep the CDs or destroy them?
Quote from: aukhawk on May 02, 2018, 04:10:51 AM
That poses a different problem though - if you have your personal copies don't you have to either keep the CDs or destroy them?
I don't really know the ins and outs of the legal aspects of that. But morally, with the thought of royalties going to the performer (and composer if still alive), that only happens the first time it gets sold, which was to me. So I really don't care if it is legal or not. I would far rather give them away/ sell them cheap than have them piled to the ceiling in my spare bedroom like they are now. :)
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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on May 02, 2018, 04:38:56 AM
I don't really know the ins and outs of the legal aspects of that. But morally, with the thought of royalties going to the performer (and composer if still alive), that only happens the first time it gets sold, which was to me. So I really don't care if it is legal or not. I would far rather give them away/ sell them cheap than have them piled to the ceiling in my spare bedroom like they are now. :)
But if everyone buys a CD only to rip it and then sell it on, the performers/composers will get royalties from just that one CD sold.
♫ Say you will when you won't, unh-unh, honey, don't . . . .
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on May 02, 2018, 04:38:56 AM
I don't really know the ins and outs of the legal aspects of that. But morally, with the thought of royalties going to the performer (and composer if still alive), that only happens the first time it gets sold, which was to me. So I really don't care if it is legal or not. I would far rather give them away/ sell them cheap than have them piled to the ceiling in my spare bedroom like they are now. :)
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It is not clear to me if this means that you view is that you are within your rights to give CDs away after you have ripped them.
Quote from: snyprrr on April 30, 2018, 06:53:38 AM
What will happen to this Music Library (under 1000 CDs) after I'm gone?
I broached this subject not so very long ago and I was surprised that someone in my family expressed an interest in my collection after my demise. Ask the question and you also may be surprised.
Quote from: Daverz on May 01, 2018, 06:53:55 PM
It does prompt me to think about the shocking amount of stuff I've accumulated that no one will want to deal with when I'm gone.
This is a bigger problem than we think. I have seen the result more than once when people have died and left lots of stuff behind. It can be a big problem to deal with for people left behind particularly if the deceased has left no indication of what they want done.
Quote from: Mirror Image on May 01, 2018, 06:35:46 PM
Notice how snyprrr hasn't even bothered to respond to this thread. Either he's laughing his ass off at this thread (and us) or he's seriously in some kind of danger.
read for a couple of days
Lol, no,... duh, I simply forgot I Posted the Th
... and there is computer magic again...
... so, yea, I mean, it did seem like a legit question,- though, seriously, when it's all boiled down, there aren't that many really rare items worth more than $5 anyways.
I actually DID liquidate my Pop Library @1999, totally, but, I can't think of anything that I truly can't just hear on YT. With Classical, you don't know if you can hear a specific recording or not...
Anyhow, I'm actually surprised by the Thread Activity! Huh,... well, we're not getting younger,... I wonder what will be the last thing I ever...covet...
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still haven't read the whole Thread, just wanted to duty u
sorry everytone, I totally forgot I Posted this :-[ :-X :-\ :-X :-[ :-X :-\
My Lester 1926 Baby Grand!!! Worth my sticking around for a few more years!
The heck with the CD's but some books I would like to keep.
Now, how can that be managed?
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 02, 2018, 07:15:45 AM
♫ Say you will when you won't, unh-unh, honey, don't . . . .
C'mon
Carl Karl, one more time for Marc!
If I'm lucky, I have still another 25 years or so left (will turn 49 next month).
By that time nobody that doesn't have one foot in the grave will be interested in physical CDs. People already quietly gasp for breath when they hear that I still collect those silver discs.... ::)
That apart from the fact that probably no one will be around with a similar musical taste.
In my experience the best way to handle a problem you can't solve, is to ignore it.... :D
I won't be around anyway, and I can't be bothered with elaborate hypothetical "library" schemes.
Trust me, in the 2040's there won't be any library or charity that still wants that stuff! :laugh:
Q
PS But in the meantime, you can leave it all to me.... >:D
Quote from: Baron Scarpia on May 02, 2018, 07:50:48 AM
It is not clear to me if this means that you view is that you are within your rights to give CDs away after you have ripped them.
It's not entirely clear to me, either. However, I can tell you I have no moral problem with it. If it's illegal, well, hard cheese then.
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Quote from: Que on May 04, 2018, 12:34:31 AM
If I'm lucky, I have still another 25 years or so left (will turn 49 next month).
By that time nobody that doesn't have one foot in the grave will be interested in physical CDs. People already quietly gasp for breath when they hear that I still collect those silver discs.... ::)
That apart from the fact that there probably on one will be around with a similar musical taste.
I my experience the best way to handle a problem you can't solve, is to ignore it.... :D
I won't be around anyway, and I can't be bothered with elaborate hypothetical "library" schemes.
Trust me, in the 2040's there won't be any library or charity that still wants that stuff! :laugh:
Q
PS But in the meantime, you can leave it all to me.... >:D
Have you not noticed how quickly the desire for "retro" items comes around. The 2040 hipsters, like those of today seeking out vinyl, will covet CDs ;D
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on May 04, 2018, 06:49:44 AM
It's not entirely clear to me, either. However, I can tell you I have no moral problem with it. If it's illegal, well, hard cheese then.
Illegal is too strong a word, I think, it is a violation of the license agreement you implicitly agreed to when you purchased the recording.
Personally, I don't do it because it deprives the content creator of the revenue that would have been produced if whoever I sold or gave it to had to buy a new copy.
Quote from: aligreto on May 04, 2018, 07:53:13 AM
Have you not noticed how quickly the desire for "retro" items comes around. The 2040 hipsters, like those of today seeking out vinyl, will covet CDs ;D
Quote from: Que on May 04, 2018, 12:34:31 AM
If I'm lucky, I have still another 25 years or so left (will turn 49 next month).
By that time nobody that doesn't have one foot in the grave will be interested in physical CDs. People already quietly gasp for breath when they hear that I still collect those silver discs.... ::)
That apart from the fact that there probably on one will be around with a similar musical taste.
I my experience the best way to handle a problem you can't solve, is to ignore it.... :D
I won't be around anyway, and I can't be bothered with elaborate hypothetical "library" schemes.
Trust me, in the 2040's there won't be any library or charity that still wants that stuff! :laugh:
Q
PS But in the meantime, you can leave it all to me.... >:D
Point... CounterPoint!!
Well, all of my 'Library' is already in @30+ NewReleaseCartons that hold 30 CDs, you know, the one's you would get on Tuesday morning (NewRelease Day universally) at Tower Records...
so, the Library is already in it's own portable Vault o' Coffins, just waiting to be either
a)buried
b)cremated
Yea, maybe I just needed to face the futility of it all... what's the line, "Who will know what comes after him to screw up his legacy"... what verse was that?...
Ah, Death 'n' Chocolate :'( :laugh:
Quote from: Baron Scarpia on May 04, 2018, 08:00:13 AM
Personally, I don't do it because it deprives the content creator of the revenue that would have been produced if whoever I sold or gave it to had to buy a new copy.
Which assumes that they actually would do that. My belief (I can't quote a number and won't make one up) is that most won't get it at all. Or they will buy a used copy, which also doesn't accrue anything to the content creator. Or download an illegal copy from the Internet (so easy to do!). It's a bag of turds from nearly any angle. But if I give something away or else sell it at far below what the artificial market for used copies goes, I can sleep well at night. I've done far worse things in my long, adventurous life! :)
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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on May 04, 2018, 08:28:22 AM
[...] I've done far worse things in my long, adventurous life! :)
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At least, you have never had to hire Rudolph William Louis Giuliani as legal counsel!
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on May 04, 2018, 08:28:22 AM
Which assumes that they actually would do that. My belief (I can't quote a number and won't make one up) is that most won't get it at all. Or they will buy a used copy, which also doesn't accrue anything to the content creator. Or download an illegal copy from the Internet (so easy to do!). It's a bag of turds from nearly any angle. But if I give something away or else sell it at far below what the artificial market for used copies goes, I can sleep well at night. I've done far worse things in my long, adventurous life! :)
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I won't presume to advise you, but I feel that if I sold it, I don't own it anymore. Selling it and keeping it doesn't sit well with me. (I have a relative who makes a living producing classical recordings, so it hits close to home.)
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 04, 2018, 08:38:11 AM
At least, you have never had to hire Rudolph William Louis Giuliani as legal counsel!
As far as you know... ;)
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Passed as emended, Mister Secretary.
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on May 04, 2018, 09:42:30 AM
As far as you know... ;)
From the fact that you are not posting from a penitentiary I will assume you have not retained Mr Giuliani as legal council... :D
Quote from: Baron Scarpia on May 04, 2018, 08:40:28 AM
I won't presume to advise you, but I feel that if I sold it, I don't own it anymore. Selling it and keeping it doesn't sit well with me. (I have a relative who makes a living producing classical recordings, so it hits close to home.)
Actually, I still own the first CD I ever bought, I have never sold one (lost one once, still pissed. Kept the MP3's I had ripped though). I was talking more about what I might do in the future within the context of this thread. As someone mentioned earlier, no library in the world wants them. It is a problem, given the huge investment I've made over the years. My wife sure as hell doesn't want them, assuming she outlives me.
I do feel that anytime someone buys a used CD, they are in the same moral position that you are against here. Even if they pay $100 for it (look on Amazon Marketplace!), not a penny goes to anyone involved in making it. There is simply no clear moral high ground for anyone to occupy. :-\
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Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 04, 2018, 09:44:44 AM
Passed as emended, Mister Secretary.
Quote from: Baron Scarpia on May 04, 2018, 09:46:09 AM
From the fact that you are not posting from a penitentiary I will assume you have not retained Mr Giuliani as legal council... :D
:D No, I may have been wayward, but I was never an actual shitheel. :)
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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on May 04, 2018, 09:48:16 AM
Actually, I still own the first CD I ever bought, I have never sold one (lost one once, still pissed. Kept the MP3's I had ripped though). I was talking more about what I might do in the future within the context of this thread. As someone mentioned earlier, no library in the world wants them. It is a problem, given the huge investment I've made over the years. My wife sure as hell doesn't want them, assuming she outlives me.
As far as a bequeathal (is that a word?) I see no basis to prevent them being sold or donated.
QuoteI do feel that anytime someone buys a used CD, they are in the same moral position that you are against here. Even if they pay $100 for it (look on Amazon Marketplace!), not a penny goes to anyone involved in making it. There is simply no clear moral high ground for anyone to occupy. :-\
As before, I would not presume to advise you, but if you own the original sound carrier, I see no objection to selling it. You purchased a license to listen to the recording, and now you transfer that license to someone else. They gained access and you lost access. The publisher sold one record and one person has access to it, even if it is not the same person they originally sold it to. My objection to ripping and selling is that they sold one copy and now two people have it.
Bequest is possibly better.
D'oh!
With the new estate tax exemption of $11.18 million and rate of 45%, you might want to consider a life insurance policy to cover potential tax liabilities to your estate.
Quote from: bwv 1080 on May 04, 2018, 11:04:06 AM
With the new estate tax exemption of $11.18 million and rate of 45%, you might want to consider a life insurance policy to cover potential tax liabilities to your estate.
:D Probably good advice for some, but I live the totally carefree life of the nearly indigent, so no sweat there. ;)
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I'm quite happy to leave all my recordings of Gesualdo, Paganini, Wagner and that dreadful atheist Shostakovich to someone, as where I'm going I'll be hanging out with those guys. Recordings of Byrd, Bach, Haydn and Messiaen I'm afraid I'll have to take with me, as no other way of hearing them there.
Quote from: DaveF on May 08, 2018, 12:18:35 AM
I'm quite happy to leave all my recordings of Gesualdo, Paganini, Wagner and that dreadful atheist Shostakovich to someone, as where I'm going I'll be hanging out with those guys. Recordings of Byrd, Bach, Haydn and Messiaen I'm afraid I'll have to take with me, as no other way of hearing them there.
Sounds like you're not going to the good place. :o
This is an oddly pleasant and good-natured thread.
With album collections and private libraries, used to be second hand store managers would come to your house and make a bid (pathetically low, as a rule) on your collection. I hope my family does that with mine. They'll need the money!
Quote from: Mookalafalas on May 12, 2018, 10:29:34 PM
This is an oddly pleasant and good-natured thread.
With album collections and private libraries, used to be second hand store managers would come to your house and make a bid (pathetically low, as a rule) on your collection. I hope my family does that with mine. They'll need the money!
Yes, but then they might discover how much you actually spent on said collection ;D
I have willed my collection to a public radio station in Garden City, Kansas. A number of years ago, that city was challenged by a bunch of Klansmen who came to town to agitate against the immigration of a number of Vietnamese immigrants to the community. The community organized to resist, and they turned the racists away and did it with such elan they won a community service award from the Southern Poverty Law Center. So I decided this was a good community for me to reward with my gift.
Quote from: aligreto on May 13, 2018, 12:52:16 AM
Yes, but then they might discover how much you actually spent on said collection ;D
Then they could get my "investment" back and consider it to have been put in the bank, so to speak :P
Much more likely is that the agent will offer such a tiny fraction of the collection's worth that they will weep at how frugal I was, how I stinted my own pleasures to save everything for them...
Quote from: Mookalafalas on May 15, 2018, 01:13:31 AM
Much more likely is that the agent will offer such a tiny fraction of the collection's worth that they will weep at how frugal I was, how I stinted my own pleasures to save everything for them...
I did not think of that :laugh:
Quote from: aligreto on May 02, 2018, 08:18:38 AM
This is a bigger problem than we think. I have seen the result more than once when people have died and left lots of stuff behind. It can be a big problem to deal with for people left behind particularly if the deceased has left no indication of what they want done.
A very good friend of mine didn't die, he just sank into depression, deserted his apartment and hit the streets. I carted off dozens and dozens of boxes of books, DVDs and CDs to the second hand shops - had to put his works of art in storage, too.
Following that, my daughter had this comment: (pointing to my CD collection) « When you go, 'Pa, make sure you get rid of all that. We don't want the trouble ». ::)
Quote from: André on May 15, 2018, 12:50:26 PM
A very good friend of mine didn't die, he just sank into depression, deserted his apartment and hit the streets. I carted off dozens and dozens of boxes of books, DVDs and CDs to the second hand shops - had to put his works of art in storage, too.
That's disturbing, abandoned his comfortable life to go homeless (in Quebec, no less)? Still out there?
Come winter he found a room to stay in. He thinks of hitting the road again. Has travelled the worls with a pack sack. He has lost all interest in earthly possessions (not that he had much). The guys has 2 bachelor degrees, a masters and a doctorate. We keep in touch now and then.
Quote from: André on May 15, 2018, 06:07:34 PM
Come winter he found a room to stay in. He thinks of hitting the road again. Has travelled the worls with a pack sack. He has lost all interest in earthly possessions (not that he had much). The guys has 2 bachelor degrees, a masters and a doctorate. We keep in touch now and then.
I've gone from feeling sorry for him to being envious...
Quote from: Baron Scarpia on May 16, 2018, 09:12:47 AM
I've gone from feeling sorry for him to being envious...
I know what you mean.
Quote from: Baron Scarpia on May 16, 2018, 09:12:47 AM
I've gone from feeling sorry for him to being envious...
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Now get back to cataloging!! (whip, whip)
It's funny that not one person here has offered to take OP up on his offer. Apparently we're all in the same position.
Quote from: ShineyMcShineShine on May 28, 2018, 05:49:33 PM
It's funny that not one person here has offered to take OP up on his offer. Apparently we're all in the same position.
Receive another whole collection in addition to my own ??? God forbid.
Quote from: Mookalafalas on May 29, 2018, 05:32:13 PM
Receive another whole collection in addition to my own ??? God forbid.
Yeah, definitely not something I'd want either. I have enough of my own already. I do pity the person who has to deal with CD collection, though. :)
Quote from: Mirror Image on May 29, 2018, 07:36:35 PM
Yeah, definitely not something I'd want either. I have enough of my own already. I do pity the person who has to deal with CD collection, though. :)
:o And I had you down as recipient of my Ed Bickert CDs... ;D
Quote from: NikF on May 29, 2018, 08:04:28 PM
:o And I had you down as recipient of my Ed Bickert CDs... ;D
Well, damn... :P
I donated my LP collection to the sanitation department. They didn't gripe at all.
I'm collecting a pile of CDs that were made redundant when I got various box sets. At some point I will take it to the used book/record shop and see if they are interested. Otherwise, sanitation department.
Quote from: ShineyMcShineShine on May 28, 2018, 05:49:33 PM
It's funny that not one person here has offered to take OP up on his offer. Apparently we're all in the same position.
I have no idea of the age profile of our
snyprrr but I take the poster as a bright young thing [intended compliment]. Therefore, in the greater scheme of things, I will have long departed this orb long before
snyprrr does and my own family will have enough to deal with in terms of my own collection. Otherwise I would gratefully receive any additions to my burgeoning collection ;D
No. You leave all that to your surviving family and friends to sort out, because, you know, you want to really stick it to those you left behind :-)
Quote from: Monsieur Croche on June 02, 2018, 10:37:28 PM
No. You leave all that to your surviving family and friends to sort out, because, you know, you want to really stick it to those you left behind :-)
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Maybe it's because I just had a small "tea time" vodka, but that one really got me. I initially thought you were going to use even stronger words at the end "stick it to those *&%$@# you left behind." Anyway, thanks for a good snort (after my good snort).
I am wanting to sell my pop music collection as went off it a few years ago and now they are gathering dust.
Won't listen to it now!
Quote from: Baron Scarpia on May 30, 2018, 08:18:54 AM
I donated my LP collection to the sanitation department. They didn't gripe at all.
I'm collecting a pile of CDs that were made redundant when I got various box sets. At some point I will take it to the used book/record shop and see if they are interested. Otherwise, sanitation department.
Don't do that. Donate them to your local public library.
Quote from: RebLem on June 03, 2018, 10:33:41 PM
Don't do that. Donate them to your local public library.
What he said. Library book sales are a significant fundraiser, at least around here, and my observation - utterly lacking scientific methodology, of course - is that your classical CDs will get snarfed up pretty quickly. It's Paula Abdul and the Backstreet Boys who will be left to linger and rot. It's a good deal all around.
Trash bin. No one wants them.