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Title: Tell Me What to Buy: Page 4
Post by: snyprrr on May 06, 2009, 03:06:18 AM
PICK THREE (3):


Roslavetz/Mossolov/Knipper SQs ORDERED

Schoeck/Brun SQs

Husa SQs 2-3

Saint-Saens SQs

Villa-Lobos/Ginastera/Orbon/Lavista SQs

Ying Quartet LIVE MUSIC Vol.2 (Rorem, Higdon, Bolcom?, Hicks?)

Peter Michael Hamel SQs/trio

Busoni SQs

Johnston/Downey/Craford-Seeger SQs
Johnston/Bolcom/Neikrug SQs

Arditti SQ "Mexico"
Arditti SQ "Portugese Chamber Music"
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: Daverz on May 06, 2009, 08:19:03 PM
Quote from: snyprrr on May 06, 2009, 03:06:18 AM
Roslavetz/Mossolov/Knipper SQs
Villa-Lobos/Ginastera/Orbon/Lavista SQs
Johnston/Downey/Craford-Seeger SQs

I'm curious about pre-crackdown Soviet music.  I've always been interested in Latin American music.  And I've read some about Crawford-Seeger, but never heard her.  Who are the ensembles on these discs?

Quote
Arditti SQ "Mexico"
Arditti SQ "Portugese Chamber Music"

What is on these discs?
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: snyprrr on May 07, 2009, 12:41:30 AM
Ah, thank you for the Russian curveball. Locked.

There are 4 Latino type cds I'm interested in, 2 from the Quartetto Latinoamerica, and the 2 Arditti. YOU WANT NAMES :o? (deflating sound)...They are all unfamiliar (and probably young) names-don't have the list here-but that is why I thought ALL 4 of them would make a great "when pigs fly" purchase. The Latinoamerica cds are obviously going to be slightly more friendly, but I heard the Arditti/Portugese album was totally charming (still, it's the most expensive one, on Etcetera). The "Mexico" cd I hear is more standard typical Arditti fare (which of course, isn't a bad thing).

I like that you skipped the normal stuff and went for some dark horses. Thanks.

Any more suggestions?
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: snyprrr on May 07, 2009, 01:57:44 PM
I ordered the Mossolov/Rosalvets/Knipper...$6!

And I just happened to find a "hopelessly" OOP Gerhard Staebler/Arditti disc...$6.50!

Welcome to Snyprrr's Bargain Basement Ninja CD Hunting Headquarters

please, tell me what to buy!
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: not edward on May 08, 2009, 06:08:43 AM
The one thing that stands out in this list is the Crawford Seeger quartet. If you don't have it, you should.
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: The new erato on May 08, 2009, 06:43:56 AM
Quote from: edward on May 08, 2009, 06:08:43 AM
The one thing that stands out in this list is the Crawford Seeger quartet. If you don't have it, you should.
Any available recordings?
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: snyprrr on May 08, 2009, 12:56:29 PM
I have Arditti playing Crawford-Seeger on that famous Grammavision disc (find it on Amazon: Arditti 4). I was going to get THAT disc for the Johnston No.4 Amazing Grace.

Why not the Husa? Isn't No.3 (Pulitzer Prize 1968) supposed to have everything one could ask for?

The only reason I ask is because I've been in a Fine Arts Quartet frenzy lately.

And no one has mentioned the standard fare, Saint-Saens, Busoni, Wolf. I'll admit, with my...uh, budget....my list seems it would make anyone break out in hives! I do think I'll be going for the Saint-Saens: very nice easy listening for me.

Also, Arnold, Alwyn, and Rawsthorne just got into the running.
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: snyprrr on May 12, 2009, 04:20:44 PM
Just got Mossolov/Roslavets/Knipper. Check out review at ...please SQs me... thread.
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: snyprrr on October 25, 2011, 06:43:33 AM
It's time for more 'Tell Me What to Buy'.







Seriously, I can't even think of where to begin:

post 1950.

unstoppable juggernaut type orchestral works.

stranger-than-fiction String Quartets or Chamber Music.







Leslie Bassett CRI

Wellesz SQs

Dallapiccola Apex

Stockhausen (too expensive right now)

Dumitrescu/Radulescu??

various cheapo CRI discs... guilty pleasures all!!




Basically, I'm at the 'buy things I'm really not interested in because I'm bored' stage. Help!!
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: snyprrr on October 25, 2011, 09:20:24 PM
Quote from: James on October 25, 2011, 07:26:40 AM
There is a really good Wergo disc outside of the Verlag label which has Kontra-punkte, Refrain, Zeitmasze & Schlagtrio. There are also really good Wergo discs of Kontakte & Tierkreis. Get these. Get the Eotvos Gruppen/Punkte recording if you don't have that. Get the great Kontarsky Klavierstucke I-XI set which has the live electronic Mikrophonie works thrown in for good measure. Get the exceptional ECM album of Michaels Reise. Buy the Helicopter String Quartet documentary which is entertaining.

[asin]B002LMKJQK[/asin]

[asin]B000ENC6P0[/asin]

[asin]B000025R06[/asin]

[asin]B000025H05[/asin]

[asin]B0000031VN[/asin]

[asin]B00176I94K[/asin]

That will keep you busy for awhile.  8)

IT'S THAT EOTVOS DISC THAT (whoops) all of a sudden jumped a few dollars right as I was considering it on Amazon (I see they've dropped it all of a sudden as OOP). Otherwise, I'd rather have the one with Carre from the SV.
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: snyprrr on June 27, 2013, 07:23:52 PM
Oy, the bug wants to bite me. :( I can't afford to expand The Library.
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: Brian on June 27, 2013, 08:03:32 PM
Quote from: snyprrr on June 27, 2013, 07:23:52 PM
Oy, the bug wants to bite me. :( I can't afford to expand The Library.
Okay! I'll tell you what to buy, and also where to mail it.
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: snyprrr on November 11, 2014, 07:22:27 PM
Quote from: snyprrr on June 27, 2013, 07:23:52 PM
Oy, the bug wants to bite me. :( I can't afford to expand The Library.

It's either the last of the Ssotakovich research project- which of course won't yield any actual New Music. There's No Xenakis... ever... waaah...

It's pretty much 1913-1983 that I'm interested in... either "pre-1950s" styled music, or some meaty snyprrr-petrarch-culver-james type of High Modernism...


1) sALLINEN CPO Box


2) -some other super Symphonies.....


3) maybe some extraordinary Szymanowski + Feldman + Stockhausen Piano Music?????? super wild baby,... super wild

4) Novak Piano Quintet

5) SQs???

6) spiky violin + piano

7) any standout concertos?
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: Mandryka on November 11, 2014, 09:34:50 PM
Quote from: snyprrr on November 11, 2014, 07:22:27 PM
It's either the last of the Ssotakovich research project- which of course won't yield any actual New Music. There's No Xenakis... ever... waaah...

It's pretty much 1913-1983 that I'm interested in... either "pre-1950s" styled music, or some meaty snyprrr-petrarch-culver-james type of High Modernism...



5) SQs???

YES, more than 6


7) any standout concertos?

Yes. best modern violin concerto ever -- Terrain

I think you should have a Ferneyhough phase

Quote from: snyprrr on November 11, 2014, 07:22:27 PM



It's pretty much 1913-1983 that I'm interested in... either "pre-1950s" styled music, or some meaty snyprrr-petrarch-culver-james type of High Modernism...



3)  Piano Music?????? super wild baby,... super wild


Trinity (Flynn), Barraque' sonata. I'm assuming you've heard Natural Durations (Stockhausen)

Quote from: snyprrr on November 11, 2014, 07:22:27 PM

7) any standout concertos?


(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51H37HCMVML.jpg)
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: snyprrr on November 12, 2014, 06:18:54 AM
Quote from: Mandryka on November 11, 2014, 09:34:50 PM
I think you should have a Ferneyhough phase

Trinity (Flynn), Barraque' sonata. I'm assuming you've heard Natural Durations (Stockhausen)


(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51H37HCMVML.jpg)

Yes, that Ferneyhough/Arditti Cycle could be TheOne!

And yes, that Chandos disc could be...

Yes, thanks, - you're on my wavelength!! ;)

(for those looking for a good Avant Piano Recital, check out either the CDs 'Decoding Skin' or 'The Eleventh Finger'/)
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: Mandryka on November 13, 2014, 10:52:54 PM
Have you tried Merzbow? Ferrari?
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: snyprrr on November 14, 2014, 06:36:42 AM
Quote from: Mandryka on November 13, 2014, 10:52:54 PM
Have you tried Merzbow? Ferrari?

Yes, I prefer 'Persepolis' to just about any other Electro-Acoustic music. They said merzbow was the only other real option, but he just doesn't have what Xenakis had.- I mean- there's a LOT od Merzbow- I'd certainly be willing to take recommendations!
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: Mandryka on November 16, 2014, 03:21:17 AM
Quote from: snyprrr on November 14, 2014, 06:36:42 AM
Yes, I prefer 'Persepolis' to just about any other Electro-Acoustic music. They said merzbow was the only other real option, but he just doesn't have what Xenakis had.- I mean- there's a LOT od Merzbow- I'd certainly be willing to take recommendations!

The obvious suggestion is his remix of Persepolis.
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: snyprrr on September 16, 2015, 03:40:52 PM
looking over this thread.... I'm still at the exact same place...
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: Karl Henning on September 16, 2015, 03:46:17 PM
Quote from: snyprrr on September 16, 2015, 03:40:52 PM
looking over this thread.... I'm still at the exact same place...
Is it a happy place?
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: snyprrr on September 21, 2015, 07:48:10 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on September 16, 2015, 03:46:17 PM
Is it a happy place?

pocketbook happy, me bored... this is what I've gotten here on this last spurt:

Miereanu Orchestral Works (Salabert)
Harris Sym. 11 (Albany)
Harris Syms. 8&9 (Albany)
Schnittke Viola Cto. (RCA)
Schnittke Sym.3 (BIS)
Harris Sym.5, Violin Cto. (Louisville)
Prokofiev Sym.2, Cello Sym. (Chandos)


I'm just holding off on the Sallinen Box, the Borodin/'Bovine' Box, Fitzwilliam Box,... all the $30 items...



NOT IN THE MOOD FOR AVANT GARDE!!!!- all my favs are leaving me cold- Donatoni, Castiglioni, etc etc... Arditti...




PETRASSI PIANO CONCERTO seems to be at the top of the list at the moment....





BOOORED

BOOOOOOOOOORED

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORED
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: Mirror Image on September 21, 2015, 09:52:44 AM
Well, the Bashmet performance of Schnittke's Viola Concerto is without a doubt the best one I've heard (own four recordings of the work). The Schnittke 3rd on BIS with Eri Klas is also top-shelf. Buy both. 8)
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: Scion7 on September 25, 2015, 02:27:00 AM
ok, buy this:  (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41PDmongcvL.jpg)

Stop dawdling, man, chop-chop!     :P
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: snyprrr on September 26, 2015, 07:50:19 PM
Quote from: Scion7 on September 25, 2015, 02:27:00 AM
ok, buy this:  (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41PDmongcvL.jpg)

Stop dawdling, man, chop-chop!     :P

OY VEY!!

Yea, mm, eee, oh, ah,... I just can't see that one happening. If I'm getting Brahms, I'm done! But I appreciate the curve ball!! Scriabin, maybe? I don't know what kind of pPiano Music I could go for tight now- the only item on The List would be Holliger's Partita. I'm pretty satisfied with my keyboard music.

Could use some more modern harpsichord.....

No organ right now please.



I'D LIKE SOMETHING "COSMIC" BUT NOT TOO NOISY- OH noooes, is it Segerstam I'm looking for????
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: Mandryka on September 26, 2015, 11:16:29 PM
Quote from: snyprrr on September 26, 2015, 07:50:19 PM
OY VEY!!

Yea, mm, eee, oh, ah,... I just can't see that one happening. If I'm getting Brahms, I'm done! But I appreciate the curve ball!! Scriabin, maybe? I don't know what kind of pPiano Music I could go for tight now- the only item on The List would be Holliger's Partita. I'm pretty satisfied with my keyboard music.

Could use some more modern harpsichord.....

No organ right now please.



I'D LIKE SOMETHING "COSMIC" BUT NOT TOO NOISY- OH noooes, is it Segerstam I'm looking for????

You've answered your own question. You need Holliger's Romancendres, and you can get it on the same CD as the Partita.

How well have you delved into Klang?  Or late Nono? Both cosmic and not noisy things there (Himmelfahrt for example.)

If you're really up for it why not try something completely unexpected like Byzentine chant? Or music for Lyra Viol? Both cosmic, neither noisy.

Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: snyprrr on September 29, 2015, 11:54:21 AM
Quote from: Mandryka on September 26, 2015, 11:16:29 PM
You've answered your own question. You need Holliger's Romancendres, and you can get it on the same CD as the Partita.

How well have you delved into Klang?  Or late Nono? Both cosmic and not noisy things there (Himmelfahrt for example.)

If you're really up for it why not try something completely unexpected like Byzentine chant? Or music for Lyra Viol? Both cosmic, neither noisy.

my Byzantine phase @1997... not much survived...


Klang, no- (KHS, right?)- I guess that's an option

Nono, yes


Thinking about some Hughes Dufourt... anything new by Roger Reynolds?... nothing interesting by the Arditti, though I could go for the Ferneyhough set... Barrett?...


Yea, I've pretty much said goodbye to pre-1904 music... I'm getting waaay picky... thinking Wyschnagradsky(sp.) might be too doleful for me... microtonal in general...


cosmic = Ives in my mind.... how is that 'Universe Symphony'?

Aye, I just want to buuuy something :o

yea, maybe Holliger, he's my go-to.... what about the Violin Concerto?





wasn't really into Petrassi Piano Concerto......... Nordic Composers have left me cold all of a sudden.....  oh, the drama!!! ::)
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: Mandryka on September 29, 2015, 12:32:06 PM
Another idea, really I'm thinking I like it so you'll like it, is the Alti Heimir Sveinsson 2nd piano trio. There's a recording by The Hyperion Trio.

Have you heard Presque Rien? If not, it's quiet, and IMO cosmic. I love early Ferrari.

Jonathan Harvey's Bhakti? It's kitsch like Jeff Koons.
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: snyprrr on September 30, 2015, 07:40:26 PM
Quote from: Mandryka on September 29, 2015, 12:32:06 PM
Another idea, really I'm thinking I like it so you'll like it, is the Alti Heimir Sveinsson 2nd piano trio. There's a recording by The Hyperion Trio.

Have you heard Presque Rien? If not, it's quiet, and IMO cosmic. I love early Ferrari.

Jonathan Harvey's Bhakti? It's kitsch like Jeff Koons.

Yes, that Ferrari is an outre, yet appropriate, choice, I'll re-listen.

Well, here's what I got so far:

1) Lindberg SONY w/Cello Concerto, Fresco

2) Norgard/Ligeti Chandos Violin Concertos

3) Denisov Erato Symphony

4) Ives Universe Symphony... haven't chosen one yet

5) Dufourt Timpani Le Cypres Blanc viola concerto... spectral


That seems representative of where I'm at at the moment. I would consider these "classic" choices... things that probably should have been here all along...I just don't even know what a "radical" choice would be...
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: snyprrr on April 03, 2016, 04:59:02 PM
Quote from: Mandryka on September 26, 2015, 11:16:29 PM
You've answered your own question. You need Holliger's Romancendres, and you can get it on the same CD as the Partita.

How well have you delved into Klang?  Or late Nono? Both cosmic and not noisy things there (Himmelfahrt for example.)

If you're really up for it why not try something completely unexpected like Byzentine chant? Or music for Lyra Viol? Both cosmic, neither noisy.

Well, here I am again.

SO BORED


I just picked up the Nonkin disc with Babbitt and Finnissy, first purchase for most of the year so far. I want something as dense as Babbitt- but Babbitt has a way of making many notes sound not-angsty, whereas others with lots of notes tend to go Bergian.

I still haven't gotten any new Ferneyhough. But I'm not ready for a lot of String Quartet at the moment. Also expensive.


I'll still ponder the Brahms,... maybe at the library???...






Yea, Babbitt ruins a lot of Composers for me. But his Discography is small. And I haven't found his heir...




Roger Reynolds on the radar...




Sallinen sunk for me, I never got the Box...




I want something like messiaen, but not so four-square... Japanese?... Nishimura?....




Yes, I still haven't checked out Late Stockhausen...





WOW, I'M STILL AT THE SAME PLACE NOW FOR A FEW YEARS.... STUCK STUCK STUCK....
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: Mandryka on April 04, 2016, 07:08:03 AM
Quote from: snyprrr on April 03, 2016, 04:59:02 PM
Well, here I am again.

SO BORED








Yea, Babbitt ruins a lot of Composers for me. But his Discography is small. And I haven't found his heir...



I want something like messiaen, but not so four-square... Japanese?... Nishimura?....


The Barraqué concerto for clarinet and vibraphone. (I've been really enjoy Theraps recently.)

The Britten nocturnal (the guitar thing.) no, maybe not.

Or what about really getting your mind and should round Gesualdo's responsories? They've defeated me but you may be able to unlock their secret.
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: snyprrr on April 04, 2016, 08:09:47 AM
Quote from: Mandryka on April 04, 2016, 07:08:03 AM
The Barraqué concerto for clarinet and vibraphone. (I've been really enjoy Theraps recently.)

The Britten nocturnal (the guitar thing.) no, maybe not.

Or what about really getting your mind and should round Gesualdo's responsories? They've defeated me but you may be able to unlock their secret.

I've had the Barraque for decades, yes, might dust that off...

I've always enjoyed that Bream 20th century recital, yes,...

Gesualdo came with my chant phase back in the late 90s... yea, mm,... think I'd rather try Stockhausen first, lol!!




Yesterday i took Dutilleux Sym2 with me, yes, quite a boisterous and fun affair, very gilded.

Wasn't impressed by samples of Norgard's 8th... 7th I liked better...

Petrassi Piano Concerto... no thanks....






I think I'm probably just happy with what I have... I have a feeling my problems are more gynecological in nature... errrrr....
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: Mirror Image on April 04, 2016, 02:47:28 PM
Something tells me you need more Nystroem in your collection. Am I wrong?
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: snyprrr on December 07, 2016, 08:20:39 AM
ahhh, here we are again...


1) I seem to be in an American Piano Music mood lately,- 1/2 light and fluffy, 1/2 burly, gnarly....

2) Considering the Lindberg/Ondine Box... Tiensuu... Kokkonen 1-2 (Sakari)... I seem to be stuck on "Nordic Orchestral"...

3)
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: Mandryka on December 07, 2016, 09:06:55 PM
Quote from: snyprrr on December 07, 2016, 08:20:39 AM
ahhh, here we are again...


1) I seem to be in an American Piano Music mood lately,- 1/2 burly, gnarly....

)

George Flynn, Trinity. Get the recording by Fredrik Ullen.

And then there's Charles Tomlinson Griffes.
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: Turner on December 07, 2016, 10:31:13 PM
Piano works by Dane Rudhyar - interesting, eccentric, astrology-fixated & Scriabinesque fellow, but not much recorded it seems.

And of course, those of Ruth Crawford Seeger (the Preludes, Piano Studies etc.)
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy FEB.2017
Post by: snyprrr on February 25, 2017, 04:42:32 PM
1) Aperghis: 'Avis le tempete'

An exhausting "opera" thingy... I listened to a bit on YT and just didn't need the stress...


2) Stravinsky: 'Persephone'

Don't really feel like listening to a tenor, though I like the music,... eh, I just can't get excited here...


3) Stravinsky/ Bartok: Piano Music (Ranki;Apex)

Again, I like his delicate touch, but I have trouble getting excited over the music.


4) Stravinsky: 'The Flood/ Requiem Canticles...' (DG)

I can generate just a touch more excitement for this... I don't know why I just can't get excited over Igor?!?!


5) Malipiero Piano Music

I like his Impressionistic early stuff... but I lose interest in the quirky/uppity stuff.


6) Bartok Piano Muisc: Kocsis Box

I have been trying to make myself believe here, but I just don't think I can handle some of the simpler stuff. And, sampling a few of the 'Romanian' this and 'Hungarian' that, that most of Bartok's output here seems to be in the miniature range. I'd be more interested in 1-2 discs of the "important" stuff. Don't know if I can deal with 'Mikrokosmos' and 'For Children'. I know you guys are going to try to convince me here, but WHY?  After Modern Piano, it has been hard to go back to pre-1951, even if it's scintillating ,... I dunno, give it a try...


7) Henze??

How are the Piano Concertos and Violin Concertos? anything other than the Symphonies?...


8) I'm really scraping it here... I almost feel bad for not wanting anything...

Nono: 'O Sole...'

Massive opera thingy, probably more angst than I want to deal with right now. How bout '...Sospeso'?




I guess I'm good?
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy FEB.2017
Post by: GioCar on February 25, 2017, 11:14:00 PM
Quote from: snyprrr on February 25, 2017, 04:42:32 PM
8) I'm really scraping it here... I almost feel bad for not wanting anything...

Nono: 'O Sole...'

Massive opera thingy, probably more angst than I want to deal with right now. How bout '...Sospeso'?


A strong life-affirming will in early Nono.
No angst.
A true faith in the human power of changing things.

Youl'll definitely make a great gift to yourself if you buy

(http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_500/MI0000/957/MI0000957581.jpg?partner=allrovi.com)
(http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_500/MI0002/882/MI0002882797.jpg?partner=allrovi.com)

and also

(http://static.lafeltrinelli.it/static/images-3/xxl/25/3035025.jpg)


One should listen to Nono much more often nowadays...


 
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy FEB.2017
Post by: Mandryka on February 25, 2017, 11:34:51 PM
Quote from: snyprrr on February 25, 2017, 04:42:32 PM
1) Aperghis: 'Avis le tempete'

An exhausting "opera" thingy... I listened to a bit on YT and just didn't need the stress...


2) Stravinsky: 'Persephone'

Don't really feel like listening to a tenor, though I like the music,... eh, I just can't get excited here...


3) Stravinsky/ Bartok: Piano Music (Ranki;Apex)

Again, I like his delicate touch, but I have trouble getting excited over the music.


4) Stravinsky: 'The Flood/ Requiem Canticles...' (DG)

I can generate just a touch more excitement for this... I don't know why I just can't get excited over Igor?!?!


5) Malipiero Piano Music

I like his Impressionistic early stuff... but I lose interest in the quirky/uppity stuff.


6) Bartok Piano Muisc: Kocsis Box

I have been trying to make myself believe here, but I just don't think I can handle some of the simpler stuff. And, sampling a few of the 'Romanian' this and 'Hungarian' that, that most of Bartok's output here seems to be in the miniature range. I'd be more interested in 1-2 discs of the "important" stuff. Don't know if I can deal with 'Mikrokosmos' and 'For Children'. I know you guys are going to try to convince me here, but WHY?  After Modern Piano, it has been hard to go back to pre-1951, even if it's scintillating ,... I dunno, give it a try...


7) Henze??

How are the Piano Concertos and Violin Concertos? anything other than the Symphonies?...


8) I'm really scraping it here... I almost feel bad for not wanting anything...

Nono: 'O Sole...'

Massive opera thingy, probably more angst than I want to deal with right now. How bout '...Sospeso'?




I guess I'm good?

Do you know this thing?

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51%2BU32Rf26L._SX355_.jpg)
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: aukhawk on February 26, 2017, 12:14:35 AM
Stevenson, Passacaglia on DSCH

[asin]B0000YWI0Q[/asin]
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: snyprrr on February 26, 2017, 08:33:19 AM
Always interesting recommends, fellas! ;)


Ordered the Stravinsky/Knussen (DG)...

Might try some of that Nono...

Quote from: Mandryka on February 25, 2017, 11:34:51 PM
Do you know this thing?

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51%2BU32Rf26L._SX355_.jpg)

I've sniffed it a few times, I guess I fear the "less than Philips" sound??... yes, forgot about Busoni and Scriabin...
\
My main thing with the piano now is SOUND, hence the Kocsis even though I don't seem to be craving Bartok. I AM craving that sort of Philips Piano Sound.

Mustonen is the kind of pianist who has that ridiculously refined touch (Pogo, Kocsis, Ranki?)... was listening to his Stravinsky concertos... I might even get Beethoven for the Mustonen, lol.


If you "get" the type of pianist I'm looking for, I might even get "doo-dah" just to hear the sound and playing.

Quote from: aukhawk on February 26, 2017, 12:14:35 AM
Stevenson, Passacaglia on DSCH

[asin]B0000YWI0Q[/asin]

lol, that thing has always scared me... must check on it...
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: Mandryka on February 26, 2017, 08:49:29 AM
Quote from: snyprrr on February 26, 2017, 08:33:19 AM
Always interesting recommends, fellas! ;)


Ordered the Stravinsky/Knussen (DG)...

Might try some of that Nono...

I've sniffed it a few times, I guess I fear the "less than Philips" sound??... yes, forgot about Busoni and Scriabin...
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My main thing with the piano now is SOUND, hence the Kocsis even though I don't seem to be craving Bartok. I AM craving that sort of Philips Piano Sound.

Mustonen is the kind of pianist who has that ridiculously refined touch (Pogo, Kocsis, Ranki?)... was listening to his Stravinsky concertos... I might even get Beethoven for the Mustonen, lol.


If you "get" the type of pianist I'm looking for, I might even get "doo-dah" just to hear the sound and playing.

lol, that thing has always scared me... must check on it...

Got it! You need this

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Txr1rhaVn60/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: snyprrr on March 03, 2017, 02:10:00 PM
Quote from: Mandryka on February 26, 2017, 08:49:29 AM
Got it! You need this

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Txr1rhaVn60/hqdefault.jpg)

check


But as you know, I have fully fallen into a Stravinsky Trap :(... resiting,... but,... weak.... weak.....
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on March 11, 2017, 07:11:28 AM
Any classical music  recordings using dulcimar effectively? Thanks.
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: Karl Henning on March 11, 2017, 07:17:29 AM
Quote from: Forever Electoral College on March 11, 2017, 07:11:28 AM
Any classical music  recordings using dulcimar effectively? Thanks.

Great question!

Only an indirect answer . . . the Hungarian cimbalom is similar to a hammer dulcimer.

One example of a chamber work including the cimbalom:

http://www.youtube.com/v/ohnFQDtKXJc
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: Mirror Image on March 11, 2017, 09:12:04 AM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 11, 2017, 07:17:29 AM
Great question!

Only an indirect answer . . . the Hungarian cimbalom is similar to a hammer dulcimer.

One example of a chamber work including the cimbalom:

http://www.youtube.com/v/ohnFQDtKXJc

Man, that's such a hip work. The orchestration alone is genius.
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: Karl Henning on March 11, 2017, 09:14:37 AM
Aye.
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on March 11, 2017, 05:32:48 PM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 11, 2017, 07:17:29 AM
Great question!

Only an indirect answer . . . the Hungarian cimbalom is similar to a hammer dulcimer.

One example of a chamber work including the cimbalom:

http://www.youtube.com/v/ohnFQDtKXJc

Indeed, sounds like dulcimar, and very effective. Thank you very much. Long time ago I heard dulcimar in an orchestrated music of Satie, but had no idea what recording that was.
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: Monsieur Croche on March 11, 2017, 08:52:04 PM
There is another earlier Stravinsky work (1916) that uses a Cimbalom in its orchestration
Renard
(Ба́йка про лису́, петуха́, кота́, да барана́. Весё́лое представле́ние с пе́нием и му́зыкой – The Fable of the Vixen, the Cock, the Cat and the Ram.)

Orchestration:
Singers: 2 tenors, 2 basses (in the pit with the other musicians, the mime / dancers on stage.
flute (doubling piccolo), oboe (doubling cor anglais), clarinet (doubling Eb clarinet), bassoon, 2 horns, trumpet, percussion (timpani, triangle, tambourine with bells, tambourine without bells, cylindrical drum, cymbals, bass drum), cimbalom, 2 violins, viola, cello and double-bass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Marw193Upo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vyInfucWds

a film of a staged version conducted by Pierre Boulez
https://www.youtube.com/v/nM4zPeC545w
...another staging, pretty fantastic, fun, and wonderfully energetic;  lacking the cimbalom, upright piano with tacks in the hammers is a rather clever substitute.
https://www.youtube.com/v/U977r0nntEk

Enjoy


Best regards

P.s. check youtube for cimbalom;  there are a good number of traditional Hungarian pieces there.  Look also under Concerto for Cimbalom. there are a few of them!
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on March 12, 2017, 09:35:18 AM
Thanks a lot. They all are interesting works!
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy UPDATE: September 5, 2017 UPDATE
Post by: snyprrr on September 04, 2017, 12:24:40 PM
UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE


It's been Stravinsky 24/7 since, I suppose, February. Whew! Wow.


Currently, I only have Ghedini and Frank Martin on the radar,.... ahh, I really don't neeed anything, can't think of anything I want,...

Quote from: snyprrr on February 25, 2017, 04:42:32 PM
1) Aperghis: 'Avis le tempete'

An exhausting "opera" thingy... I listened to a bit on YT and just didn't need the stress...


2) Stravinsky: 'Persephone'

Don't really feel like listening to a tenor, though I like the music,... eh, I just can't get excited here...


3) Stravinsky/ Bartok: Piano Music (Ranki;Apex)

Again, I like his delicate touch, but I have trouble getting excited over the music.


4) Stravinsky: 'The Flood/ Requiem Canticles...' (DG)

I can generate just a touch more excitement for this... I don't know why I just can't get excited over Igor?!?!


5) Malipiero Piano Music

I like his Impressionistic early stuff... but I lose interest in the quirky/uppity stuff.


6) Bartok Piano Muisc: Kocsis Box

I have been trying to make myself believe here, but I just don't think I can handle some of the simpler stuff. And, sampling a few of the 'Romanian' this and 'Hungarian' that, that most of Bartok's output here seems to be in the miniature range. I'd be more interested in 1-2 discs of the "important" stuff. Don't know if I can deal with 'Mikrokosmos' and 'For Children'. I know you guys are going to try to convince me here, but WHY?  After Modern Piano, it has been hard to go back to pre-1951, even if it's scintillating ,... I dunno, give it a try...


7) Henze??

How are the Piano Concertos and Violin Concertos? anything other than the Symphonies?...


8) I'm really scraping it here... I almost feel bad for not wanting anything...

Nono: 'O Sole...'

Massive opera thingy, probably more angst than I want to deal with right now. How bout '...Sospeso'?




I guess I'm good?



Ah, now I remember: I had gotten my first ever Opera last year, 'Die Soldaten', which made me look around at Nono and Stravinsky, and then I got on the Stravinsky tip around February.  Well, I'm certainly not feeling desperate enough to go Opera hunting, though, still, Nono doooes beckon.

Ghedini and Frank Martin are only on the radar because of Stravinsky. Stravinsky has ruined a lot of music for me! :laugh: I'm having trouble caring...

The Nono just seems so tumultuous, and I don't know if I'm feeling like tackling Operas of High Modernism./// I still can't stand Opera singing to a fault...


That leaves the other generic genres I've mentioned before on here,... I noticed Henze was on there, whom I have been listening to for three days now (but I don't know how willing I am to buy something). Malipiero Piano Music,... eh, maybe, maybe not.

Ferneyhough String Quartets may have to be saved for another season: I'm just not ready for him just yet.

Xenakis: NOTHING :( :'(


Not ready for Brahms Piano Music,... or,... am I? (please, one sample of the best ya got)


Ancient Music? Nah,...

Lassus/Zelenka? mmm,... eh,... can you find me some minor keys? Otherwise, probably not right now.





AS LONG AS IT'S NOT DOUR


Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy: Page 3 UPDATE
Post by: Mirror Image on September 04, 2017, 12:29:42 PM
After that last post from snyprrr, this thread should be titled "Tell Me What Not To Buy". :)
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy: Page 3 UPDATE
Post by: snyprrr on September 04, 2017, 06:18:38 PM
Quote from: Mirror Image on September 04, 2017, 12:29:42 PM
After that last post from snyprrr, this thread should be titled "Tell Me What Not To Buy". :)

I'm just fishin',... I had thought of Villa-Lobos Symphony No.7,... maybe I'm ready for the 'Bachianas'?,... I did want to try Symphonies 10-12,...

You know, ... fishin'
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy: Page 3 UPDATE
Post by: king ubu on September 05, 2017, 11:50:42 AM
Btw, cimbalom (dulcimer) can be heard on Heinz Holliger's violin concerto

and with Peter Eötvös who wrote a concertante piece for dulcimer and (chamber) ensemble ("da capo", 2014) - saw it performed in late June at Tonhalle Zurich but thought it was a bit of an easy win in that it was a bit too obviously funny and crowd-pleasing.

And Patricia Kopatchinskaja has her father play cimbalom on her great disc "Rapsodia" (naïve, 2010) - here he is in 1976, playing the same piece they do as an opener of that CD:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EflpsFjkzxU
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy: Page 3 UPDATE
Post by: snyprrr on September 07, 2017, 08:20:47 AM
I finally purchased the Ghedini SONY disc, conducted by Daniele Rustioni. The samples reveal quite a powerful and seductive selection of Late Works. Just the fact that SONY went there was enough for me! ;)
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy
Post by: snyprrr on October 21, 2017, 03:11:58 PM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 16, 2015, 03:46:17 PM
Is it a happy place?

BOUGHT:

Skalkottas Chamber Music 'Sonata Cycle': Holligger&Co. (Philips) 49mins.

French Oboe Music: Saint-Saens, Poulenc, Koechlin, Dutilleux, Bozza (Virgin) 79mins.





I seem to be flirting with boredom here after that epic IgorMania2017 marathon... everything's relating to Igor circa 1923 for me right now... and, Avant-Garde being a bit on the expensive side (can't find anything... the Skalkottas had been on the list for... ever)...

oy, is it French Flute Music next, LOL :laugh:?!?! huh??

oh please let me get away from the Harp,Flute,Strings...pleeeeeeez ??? :o ???
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy STUCK IN FRENCHYLAND
Post by: snyprrr on November 27, 2017, 09:25:31 AM
Quote from: snyprrr on October 21, 2017, 03:11:58 PM
BOUGHT:

Skalkottas Chamber Music 'Sonata Cycle': Holligger&Co. (Philips) 49mins.

French Oboe Music: Saint-Saens, Poulenc, Koechlin, Dutilleux, Bozza (Virgin) 79mins.





I seem to be flirting with boredom here after that epic IgorMania2017 marathon... everything's relating to Igor circa 1923 for me right now... and, Avant-Garde being a bit on the expensive side (can't find anything... the Skalkottas had been on the list for... ever)...

oy, is it French Flute Music next, LOL :laugh:?!?! huh??

oh please let me get away from the Harp,Flute,Strings...pleeeeeeez ??? :o ???



LAST PURCHASES:

French Clarinet Music (MarMundi)

Flute Music of LesSix (Hyperion)

French Bassoon Works (MDG)

Virtuoso trumpet (Hardenberger/BIS)

Century of Sax/Francaix-Bozza (ASV)


Milhaud Piano Music Vol.3 (Discover)
Milhaud/Jolivet/Roussel/Francaix String Trios (?)



I SEEM TO BE STUCK IN FRENCHYLAND...


1) I need a really good modernish HORN+PIANO recital


Francaix Piano Music????? Ilike it, big investment for me


Again, Lindberg/Sibelius VC (SONY)


Caplet? Schmitt?... too old??



FERNEYHOUGH- still not ready for Arditti investment
I've got all the Avant I need right now that I have barely listened to....



OH, I JUST WANT "NEW", DON'T I? Just a package I can open?

Sounds like CDCDCD to me, I'm in the wrong Thread!!
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy STUCK IN FRENCHYLAND
Post by: Mirror Image on November 27, 2017, 09:53:05 AM
Quote from: snyprrr on November 27, 2017, 09:25:31 AM


LAST PURCHASES:

French Clarinet Music (MarMundi)

Flute Music of LesSix (Hyperion)

French Bassoon Works (MDG)

Virtuoso trumpet (Hardenberger/BIS)

Century of Sax/Francaix-Bozza (ASV)


Milhaud Piano Music Vol.3 (Discover)
Milhaud/Jolivet/Roussel/Francaix String Trios (?)



I SEEM TO BE STUCK IN FRENCHYLAND...


1) I need a really good modernish HORN+PIANO recital


Francaix Piano Music????? Ilike it, big investment for me


Again, Lindberg/Sibelius VC (SONY)


Caplet? Schmitt?... too old??



FERNEYHOUGH- still not ready for Arditti investment
I've got all the Avant I need right now that I have barely listened to....



OH, I JUST WANT "NEW", DON'T I? Just a package I can open?

Sounds like CDCDCD to me, I'm in the wrong Thread!!

Buy whatever you want!
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy STUCK IN FRENCHYLAND
Post by: snyprrr on November 28, 2017, 07:13:35 AM
Quote from: Mirror Image on November 27, 2017, 09:53:05 AM
Buy whatever you want!

Dooooooh!!!!! Right in the solar plexus!!!


That's not the kind of hand holding I was looking for, but,... lol,... hey, let's see if I have $200 lying around...













... nope...


AND... I DID LOOK!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy: Page 3 UPDATE
Post by: snyprrr on November 28, 2017, 07:19:32 AM
yes, my palms are getting a little schweaty here... MUST BUY SOMETHING...


AHHHHHHHHH ???
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy: Page 3 UPDATE
Post by: North Star on November 28, 2017, 07:55:54 AM
Quote from: snyprrr on November 28, 2017, 07:19:32 AM
yes, my palms are getting a little schweaty here... MUST BUY SOMETHING...


AHHHHHHHHH ???
Try Xanax - it should work even better than Xenakis.
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy: Page 3 UPDATE
Post by: snyprrr on November 29, 2017, 08:29:20 PM
Quote from: North Star on November 28, 2017, 07:55:54 AM
Try Xanax - it should work even better than Xenakis.

slightly tempting 8)
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy: Page 3 UPDATE
Post by: snyprrr on November 29, 2017, 08:32:08 PM
It's Henze vs. Francaix, circa 1953... 1976...
Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy: Page 3 UPDATE
Post by: snyprrr on May 16, 2018, 01:07:13 PM
Quote from: snyprrr on November 29, 2017, 08:32:08 PM
It's Henze vs. Francaix, circa 1953... 1976...

I don't remember how I got from there to Satie, but I haven't been able to get excited enough about Debussy to get any Piano Muisc Cds... Weissenberg, Bunin I liked, but the rest are typically expensive for snyprrr. (and I'm having a very hard time getting excited about Debussy)


oh what?

Ferneyhough...??....eh....SQs.....,mmmm.... that NEOS set has been a sore spot for a while now, but, expensive still....

Title: Re: Tell Me What to Buy: Page 4
Post by: snyprrr on May 20, 2018, 07:43:12 AM
I know, even I don't care. My wallet thanks you all, lol