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Composer Discussion / Re: Béla Bartók (1881-1945)
« Last post by bwv 1080 on Today at 01:17:25 PM »
Same. Main challenges in my case would be Webern & Poulenc (though neither is close; Bartók is very much more important for me as listener and music aligned person in general).

That said, I think people looking for progressivism in harmony, or a consistent folk music basis for a musical style, or anything else “modernist” in nature, is going to have a hard time finding it in Bartók. He is a 20th century Dvořák or Rimsky-Korsakov or etc.

Could not disagree more, Bartok is all of those things.  His music is far removed from 19th century nationalists for one thing, he actually took the time to study and collect actual folk music.  Bartok's use of modal music takes off from Stravinsky's Le Sacre, abstracting the modal structures and incorporating the very modernist notion of pitch class sets. 
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The Diner / Re: One Word Posts
« Last post by (: premont :) on Today at 01:12:59 PM »
Backseat
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The Diner / Re: Your Top 5 Favorite Rock Albums Of All-Time
« Last post by vandermolen on Today at 01:02:14 PM »
Support from me for Chicago Transit Authority and Rubber Soul.
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Great Recordings and Reviews / Re: New Releases
« Last post by Brian on Today at 12:59:35 PM »
Very very future release, but Pittsburgh/Honeck are playing Bruckner 9 this weekend and recording it for release on CD in their series on Reference.
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The Diner / Re: Your Top 5 Favorite Rock Albums Of All-Time
« Last post by Papy Oli on Today at 12:58:36 PM »
As a criteria, In case of a house fire, I'd save those first:

Neil Young - Harvest
Depeche Mode - Violator
Mogwai - Special Moves (live)
Chris Rea - Dancing down the stoney road
Status Quo : Quo + Live

Then I'd run back in for :

Crosby Stills Nash - Deja Vu
Creedence Clearwater Revival - best of
Serge Gainsbourg - Ballade of Melody Nelson
Bob Dylan - Subterranean Homesick Blues
Gillian Welch - Time (The Revelator)


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Composer Discussion / Re: Béla Bartók (1881-1945)
« Last post by San Antone on Today at 12:56:44 PM »
... the most interesting Bartok composition:
Sonata for 2 Pianos & Percussion

I have to agree with you, this work is the one I keep going back to more than others by Bartok. In truth, this work and the string quartets are the only works of his that I listen to anymore.

The recording of the sonata I used to listen to all the time was this one:



But right now I am trying the one you suggested:

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It would be exaggerating to say that I regret the Rubinstein box. Unlike most of my other boxes it is quite beautiful and has "production values". I am also very fond of many recordings (but most of them are the ones I already had before getting the box...). The one I do somewhat regret although it contains stuff really hard to get otherwise is the Samson Francois Box, my second biggest among the ones dedicated to pianists. But this was some years before the Rubinstein when I had a) more money b) fewer CDs and c) was more easily seduced by apparent bargains or offers too good to refuse.
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I have not reached saturation, so to speak, but organization is a big issue.  Just about everything I buy is ripped and stored on a (big) music server.  But, having good metadata is a problem: the machine has to be able to follow my musical thoughts, and that is a challenge right now.  The first difficulty is that the composer metadata is rarely used in music databases.  So I end up by having to rename an album as Debussy; Preludes I; Michelangeli instead of Preludes I.  Although performers metadata are there, the software treats as different performer Dietrisch Fisher-Dieskau and Dietrisch Fisher-Dieskau, Gerald Moore, whereas there is one person in common.  Publication database are good at dealing with this.  Music database are a real mess that is very hard do deal with.  I suspect that once I retire, I will write a music database software that means something to classical music lovers.
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With the boxes it all depends. What made me realize that the huge boxes were not for me was the large pink Rubinstein box. I got it for a good price in Fall 2013 (I think) but it was still a considerable expense and I had had already ca. 20 or more of the discs in earlier editions. Although I was able to sell, trade or gift away most of the doubles I still have one or two Chopin discs in my "refuse box". I don't know how much of the box I listened to but probably half or less. Sure, some of these recordings I have had (as singles) for many years and have frequently listened to them, so I eventually will do so again. But I don't really need 4 recordings of Rubinstein playing the Grieg concerto (a piece I only occasionally care for).
So no more big artist boxes with mixed repertoire for me.
And smaller ones (typically 8-15 discs) only if I am really into either the repertoire or the artists. It was no problem to listen to the 13 Walcha Bach discs despite the less than great sound of the harpsichord within a couple of weeks. I don't regret some of the historical diapason boxes either but only got the ones I really wanted (Brahms and Mozart chamber, Schubert piano, they were also cheap) 
But these boxes with lots of music I don't much care for, only for "completeness" sake or because they are so cheap per disc, I am not going to buy them anymore.

I also have the pink thing (seduced by the price) and that is one I regret. I also have a huge box with complete Sony recordings of what's-his-name. Oh, Perahia. If I can't remember the name I don't need his complete recordings. Maybe it's out-of-print by now and I can sell it for a mint.
 
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General Classical Music Discussion / Re: What are you listening to now?
« Last post by Papy Oli on Today at 12:22:44 PM »
Cheers, Oli!

Evening Karl !

From the same Bernstein box :

Aaron Copland - Danzon Cubano (just finished - fun piece)
Elliott Carter - Concerto for Orchestra
W.C Handy - St Louis Blues
Dave Brubeck - Dialogues for Jazz combo and Orchestra.
Larry Austin - Improvisations for Orch. & Jazz soloists

Playing the Carter now, a new composer to me...way out of my comfort zone this one....  :o
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