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General Classical Music Discussion / Re: What are you listening to now?
« Last post by André on Today at 05:23:27 PM »


Fritz Brun (1878-1959) was a noted conductor and composer in his native Switzerland. His symphonies (he wrote 10) and other symphonic works were premiered by Hermann Scherchen, Volkmar Andrae, Paul Sacher - a who’s who of musical life in that country. I have read reviews of his symphonies and there seems to be a general consensus: they are knotty, gnarly works. Even the extremely informative booklet notes seem to agree that they are difficult to appreciate. One reviewer mentions that in the 5th symphony  Brun « forcibly melds the worlds of Brahms and Reger to those of Berg and Hartmann ». That is an interesting comment. I can’t say I detected much of Brahms or anything by Berg, but Reger and Hartmann certainly come to mind.

The composer whose sound world and style sprang to mind when listening to the 6th wasn’t any of the above, but rather Havergal Brian, who was only 2 years older than Brun. There is also the same sense of claustrophoby that inhabits the bleak northern soundscapes of Pettersson or Blomdahl - or the Nielsen of the 6th symphony. This is music that inhabits rock strewn landscapes, with much incidents that do not necessarily coalesce into a coherent whole. Rather, the music progresses in a seemingly haphazard way, with lots of non sequiturs. Lest that sound forbidding, I should say that my interest was piqued. I came to the conclusion that Brun prefers to present raw musical material without attempting to pad or tie things together for the sake of convention - a sort of blunt musical collage.
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The Diner / Re: What TV series are you currently watching?
« Last post by Cato on Today at 04:27:20 PM »
Just because they are young and don't like it doesn't make them wrong! It's just nostalgic dreck to me (even in the seventies it was already this). So not a fan of Andy Griffiths myself. Even worse is Leave it to Beaver. Just shoot me now! :)

I do like some of the old What's my line shows...

No, but they were rejecting everything that was old and not in color!   0:)

Agreed, all kinds of terrible T.V. shows have existed, do exist (The Bachelor, Big Brother, etc.),  and will exist!
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Composer Discussion / Re: Carl Vine (1954 -)
« Last post by SymphonicAddict on Today at 04:20:11 PM »
The symphonies? Oh yes, they are well-crafted, nicely tonal with some dissonances, and life-enhancing. I remember liking the No. 3 the most, the first two are not less than enticing. The use of percussion is quite effective, very luminous and strong. Vine surely deserves his credit like one of the leading figures in classical music , in Australia.
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The Jazz Lounge / Re: What Jazz are you listening to now?
« Last post by SimonNZ on Today at 04:14:05 PM »


Steve Kuhn - Three Waves (1966)
Jay Epstein - Easy Company (2009)



Kimìya  - Il Viaggio (2017)
 Laia Genc Liaison Tonique - Strandgut (2008)
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The Diner / Re: Brexit Negotiations.
« Last post by Mr. Minnow on Today at 04:07:55 PM »
I cannot think of anything in my lifetime that compares with Brexit (I'm in my fifties) and keep hoping that there'll be some indication that we'll pull back from this madness (at the very least from a hard Brexit), but I haven't seen any yet, and the nightmarish trudge forwards/downwards continues.
I'm somewhat nonplussed by the vox pop interviews where people say they're bored and just want the whole thing to be over, without seeming to care too much which way it goes, it seems extraordinary that people can have such a que sera, sera attitude to such a tectonic and potentially disastrous shift. But then perhaps it's me and people like me who are actually in the minority in being so concerned about Brexit being a bringer of doom, in which case the chances of some kind of reversal seem even more remote.

I don't think many of the "just get on with it" crowd really believe that Brexit is going to cause much, if any damage. Only when the damage is done will it sink in, and it will be too late by then.

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One of my hopes is that a hard brexit *is* off the cards behind the scenes, and is only obscured because it would affect negotiating leverage. But there is such a gallery of shifty, ruthless rogues wandering around the corridors of power at the moment, that that may well be a very forlorn hope.

I fear it is a forlorn hope. And speaking of shifty ruthless rogues, the "Leave Means Leave" campaign held a rally today featuring David "there will be no downside to Brexit, only an upside" Davis. Also present was Nigel Farage, who apparently thinks leaving without a deal wouldn't be a problem. They aren't putting forward a detailed plan of their own of course - that would entail the hard work of coming up with something viable. Much better to shout betrayal from the sidelines and tell the public that they can have a cake and unicorns Brexit, and if the EU says no it's because they're trying to bully us. Davis told the rally that if the EU thinks it can bully the UK, they should read some history books. That's the mentality they're appealing to, apparently unaware that it's not 1940 anymore. Who needs a properly thought out plan when you can spout bellicose rhetoric and be cheered to the rafters instead?


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Bailout checks begin arriving for farmers, as Trump’s trade war escalates

"The federal government has given $25.8 million to farmers this month under a program designed to help them weather President Trump’s international trade battle, a spokesman for the Agriculture Department said Friday.

The money represents some of the first payments of what the Trump administration said will eventually be a $12 billion bailout, which aims to help farmers cope with retaliatory tariffs foreign countries have imposed on their products. Those retaliatory tariffs have dimmed demand for U.S. products overseas and resulted in a domestic supply glut that has deflated some prices at home."
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General Classical Music Discussion / Re: What are you listening to now?
« Last post by Daverz on Today at 03:50:29 PM »
Sibelius: Symphony No. 2



This is actually a digital recording from 1984.  Excellent performance up to the level of Stein's other Sibelius.

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The Diner / Re: Brexit Negotiations.
« Last post by Mr. Minnow on Today at 03:48:06 PM »
Foreign competition in legal services?
What is that supposed to be? Letting US attorneys practice in England?

God knows. Think of the most bizarre interpretation you can and just assume that's what they mean. There's a fair chance you'll be right. Nothing these maniacs come up with surprises me anymore.
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Yes, the producers certainly mark up the price to match the number of CDs, far in excess of the actual cost to press more CDs.
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