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Title: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: NikF on September 12, 2018, 04:56:02 AM
I noticed there was an acoustic guitar thread so I thought to add this one. In doing so I'm not trying to tread on any toes - I consider myself nothing more than an amateur musician - nor am I trying to distract from other informative and cool threads like the one by oor drogulus.

It's weird to be posting a photo of a guitar. Much like my cameras/lenses they're just tools to me. I'm not romantic about such stuff at all. Anyway, this is the only photo I appear to have of one of my guitars. I think this one was taken by the guy from my insurance company, because apparently they need to have visual documentation of everything I own.

I've some nice instruments, but I'm a simple man with simple tastes and so for the most part Telecasters fit my requirements. It might seem surprising, given my limited grasp on theory, but my bag is very much about playing jazz on them.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/bhcwfnrjj/IMG_20180912_133600_081.jpg)
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: NikF on September 12, 2018, 02:22:04 PM
Da/nyet? Not much of guitar players then. More like consumers, probably.
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: Ghost of Baron Scarpia on September 12, 2018, 02:31:35 PM
I have a Gibson L-5 Super 400. I got it when I got my first real job and could afford it, for the first time. That corresponded to a big drop off in my time and interest in playing, so it has mostly sat in various closets in various cities these last 25 years.

It isn't in great shape cosmetically. It was made in one of the low points in Gibson manufacturing and all of the gold plated parts have corroded.

I also have an ES-335 (black) and a Dove (red sunburst).
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: drogulus on September 13, 2018, 06:14:22 AM

     I think a tele sounds great for jazz. Not my Pinecaster, it's an Esquire clone.

     (https://i.imgur.com/ZJk2NNq.jpg)

     
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: EddieRUKiddingVarese on September 13, 2018, 11:56:22 AM
I've got a few (acoustic and electric) but its the ones you decide not to buy that are often the interesting scary ones.....

(https://guitar-auctions.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/lot0185.jpg)
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: Sydney Nova Scotia on September 13, 2018, 08:35:29 PM
I could holiday in that one  :D
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: EddieRUKiddingVarese on September 15, 2018, 06:50:19 PM
Ah Sydnaey why dont you live there with Bettina, since you like her so much
But I guess you would want to see a millionrainbows for that to happen  ;D
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: Ghost of Baron Scarpia on September 16, 2018, 08:23:30 AM
Some sort of inside joke here, from another web site, I detect.
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: EddieRUKiddingVarese on September 16, 2018, 02:37:40 PM
Yeah, looks like some Strange Magic to me
Beware of S&M with Franco-Flemish witches
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: Sydney Nova Scotia on September 16, 2018, 03:34:02 PM
Nah, I'm just a Cosmic Cowboy I don't go for that stuff

Unless it involves boot scootin as well...........
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: drogulus on September 18, 2018, 10:39:27 AM
     From time to time I consider getting a semihollow guitar, an alternative to the Gibson 335. I'm inclined to get a Guild Starfire. I have the bass, and the guitars are likely to be of equal quality.

     (https://guildguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/starfire_iv_st_green_front-1500x630.jpg)

      The only strike against the Starfire is the bridge pickup. When Guild decided to reintroduce the Starfire series and other electrics that used the small humbucker pickups they sent a pair of them to Korea to be copied with the same "don't change anything" instructions they gave for the Starfire bass and its pickups. But it didn't go as well this time as the bridge pickup output was way too low to match the neck pickup. It was a flawed set, and Guild hasn't corrected its error or even acknowledged that they made one.

      Therefore I'd have to have the bridge pickup rewound to bring it up to spec. Probably I would buy another bridge pickup for that and send it to my pickup guy who did the Starfire bass and the Pinecaster.
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: EddieRUKiddingVarese on September 18, 2018, 11:34:52 AM
^ Nice looking
The two Axes i use most area early 80 CBS era Strat and and a Custom shop Tele Squire
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: drogulus on September 19, 2018, 06:03:14 AM

     I like this tele:

     (https://static1.squarespace.com/static/55d7cc3ae4b039657c2b8564/58f539379f745699d0ffd26f/58f5398be6f2e12f01ec8511/1492466060605/06-20-16A_f_T-Classic_Rswd.jpg?format=1500w)

Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: bwv 1080 on September 19, 2018, 06:19:13 AM
Always thought Ibanez was the best value, got a similar model back around 2010, neck through body construction and a price of around $400

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/8RRie9L790eIxxlDWwQenZ6xx10R9ONPvcbYX7MWvzkU9BEOckLMzliac-8r7Wn6vIwhaLXyAby2qXTavei6-TBGcxeqVV7fmjER9zClnGfI4TlIZrCvHP20AFBe3FbRS1lRgxFJ7yd4nlz529IAEz-q48AZpvXBLWYNfsfYceEG-dNh1kK9ArjtGUi3Vo3MqjsJdkMQXmZnjdZAyn4=s500-pd-e365-rw-pc0xffffff)
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: drogulus on September 19, 2018, 09:36:36 AM

     The only Ibanez I would get would be a MIJ Artist, the only one made to the standards of my Artist 2617 from the late '70s.

     The new one:

     (http://www.ibanez.com/products/images/eg2018/AR2619_AV_00_01.png)

     An old one like the one I had:

     (https://www.guitar-list.com/sites/default/files/styles/model_display/public/gearpics/Ibanez-artist-2617.jpg?itok=mP-aEwLy)
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: Sydney Nova Scotia on September 19, 2018, 05:51:59 PM
Quote from: drogulus on September 19, 2018, 09:36:36 AM
     The only Ibanez I would get would be a MIJ Artist, the only one made to the standards of my Artist 2617 from the late '70s.

     The new one:

     (http://www.ibanez.com/products/images/eg2018/AR2619_AV_00_01.png)

     An old one like the one I had:

     (https://www.guitar-list.com/sites/default/files/styles/model_display/public/gearpics/Ibanez-artist-2617.jpg?itok=mP-aEwLy)

Nice, all my Ibanez are acoustics with pickups
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: drogulus on October 02, 2018, 12:12:42 PM

     I'm averse to store bought instruments. Only 1 of 4 of mine is bought in a guitar shop, the others are built to order.

     Check out this builder and use the configurator to design your own thing:

     Halo Custom Guitars (https://www.haloguitars.com/store/)
     
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: EddieRUKiddingVarese on October 02, 2018, 01:03:02 PM
Your to rich for me but i would like to get a Maton hand made
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: hpowders on October 02, 2018, 04:04:03 PM
Electric guitars are excellent for Current Listening.
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: EddieRUKiddingVarese on October 02, 2018, 05:51:43 PM
Koality Maton ones are best
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: drogulus on October 02, 2018, 06:47:06 PM

     (https://i.imgur.com/4TG97yB.jpg)

     I designed this 30" scale 5 string J bass on Halo. The third pot is a blend, and the pickups are split coils, Aero probably.
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: Sydney Nova Scotia on October 03, 2018, 04:18:47 PM
Nice
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: NikF on October 10, 2018, 03:43:34 AM
Quote from: Ghost of Baron Scarpia on September 12, 2018, 02:31:35 PM
I have a Gibson L-5 Super 400. I got it when I got my first real job and could afford it, for the first time. That corresponded to a big drop off in my time and interest in playing, so it has mostly sat in various closets in various cities these last 25 years.

It isn't in great shape cosmetically. It was made in one of the low points in Gibson manufacturing and all of the gold plated parts have corroded.

I also have an ES-335 (black) and a Dove (red sunburst).

1) I can learn to live with most neck shapes and profiles, but many years ago I was asked (auditioned? LMAO) to shoot frames for a book that detailed the collection of a relatively well known guitarist, and while visiting his impressive manor enjoyed handling a number of instruments, including a Super 400 from the mid 50s. If I had to choose one neck profile to play, it would be that one. It felt like one inch (2.5cm?) all the way down, no taper.

2) Nice guitars, bro.
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: NikF on October 10, 2018, 03:56:40 AM
Quote from: drogulus on September 13, 2018, 06:14:22 AM
     I think a tele sounds great for jazz. Not my Pinecaster, it's an Esquire clone.

     (https://i.imgur.com/ZJk2NNq.jpg)

   

Looks cool. I remember you mentioning that guitar. I'd like to play it.  8)

Don't know if you'll remember during a discussion about your amps I mentioned I use a Peavey Bandit? (turns out my current one isn't actually a Bandit, per se, on close inspection it's Peavey Special) but in any case I'd like to hit you up at some point because I'm looking for a simple combo to fit my needs. So far one of the Fender 68 (or 65) reissues have sounded good to me? But I'm wary of having a lack of clean headroom and it seems you know your speaker and stuff, so...
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: drogulus on October 10, 2018, 06:21:45 AM
Quote from: NikF on October 10, 2018, 03:56:40 AM


Don't know if you'll remember during a discussion about your amps I mentioned I use a Peavey Bandit? (turns out my current one isn't actually a Bandit, per se, on close inspection it's Peavey Special) but in any case I'd like to hit you up at some point because I'm looking for a simple combo to fit my needs. So far one of the Fender 68 (or 65) reissues have sounded good to me? But I'm wary of having a lack of clean headroom and it seems you know your speaker and stuff, so...

     The kind of amp you want is a Deluxe Reverb with more power. In the U.S. you'd go to a maker of Fender inspired amps that specializes in that kind of thing like Allen (http://www.allenamps.com/) or Vintage Sound (http://vintagesoundamps.com/).

     (http://www.allenamps.com/images/accomplice400.jpg) (https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0758/4003/products/Vintage-Sounds-Vintage-22SC-Black-Tweed-Combo-No-Corners-Main_53a8c77b-756a-4824-96a8-3c7cbdd10444_2048x2048.JPG?v=1516890414)

     So, your situation is hopeless but not serious. I'd check out the newest Fender Hod Rod Deluxe or Peavey Classic 30. They are hugely popular for a reason.
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: NikF on October 10, 2018, 11:16:58 AM
Quote from: drogulus on October 10, 2018, 06:21:45 AM
     The kind of amp you want is a Deluxe Reverb with more power. In the U.S. you'd go to a maker of Fender inspired amps that specializes in that kind of thing like Allen (http://www.allenamps.com/) or Vintage Sound (http://vintagesoundamps.com/).

     (http://www.allenamps.com/images/accomplice400.jpg) (https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0758/4003/products/Vintage-Sounds-Vintage-22SC-Black-Tweed-Combo-No-Corners-Main_53a8c77b-756a-4824-96a8-3c7cbdd10444_2048x2048.JPG?v=1516890414)

     So, your situation is hopeless but not serious. I'd check out the newest Fender Hod Rod Deluxe or Peavey Classic 30. They are hugely popular for a reason.

drogulus, thanks, man - I appreciate your reply and the info contained within. By the weekend at the latest I'll hopefully be able to post again in a manner that allows me to benefit from picking your brain further on the road to what I'm seeking. And fwiw, your straightforward insight that's sans the typical BS typically found elsewhere is cool.   8)
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: NikF on October 11, 2018, 11:36:00 PM
Also, one of the Lollar CC style neck pickups is now with someone who'll enjoy using it. I've another of them remaining, but at this stage I don't think it's going into one of the Telecasters.
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: drogulus on October 12, 2018, 08:18:34 AM
     

     The guy who made my Greenstang...

     (http://www.crestonguitars.com/media/gallery/Creston_DarkBass_1.jpg)

     ...also made this:

     (http://www.crestonguitars.com/media/gallery/Creston_DEC12_C_1.jpg)
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: NikF on October 12, 2018, 02:16:11 PM
Looks cool - especially the one with what appears to be the CC type neck pickup.
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: drogulus on October 17, 2018, 12:17:04 PM

     I have a question for the multitude. What illustrious electric guitar would you not want to own, and why?
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: Sydney Nova Scotia on October 17, 2018, 03:43:15 PM
A $150 Chinese knock off strat

Because they suck and have bad Mojo  ;D
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: drogulus on October 17, 2018, 07:30:09 PM
Quote from: Sydney Nova Scotia on October 17, 2018, 03:43:15 PM
A $150 Chinese knock off strat

Because they suck and have bad Mojo  ;D

     Ah, you don't want to own a bad guitar. I'm talking about the illustrious ones. For instance I don't want to own a Gretsch White Falcon. Gretsch quality per dollar is probably better than it used to be but they were never as well made as other big name brands.
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: Sydney Nova Scotia on October 18, 2018, 03:57:18 PM
Good point

Then the one with the longest sustain  ;D
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: drogulus on October 22, 2018, 07:39:26 AM

     Eastwood Guitars makes quasi-replicas of off-brand guitars from the '60s, only better made than the originals.
     
     (https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1621/5363/products/Eastwood-Guitars_H77_Black_Right-hand_Full-front-angled_1090x.jpg?v=1490816330)

     (https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1621/5363/products/Eastwood-Guitars_ClassicAC_Natural_Right-hand_Full-front-angled_1090x.jpg?v=1534860984)

     (https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1621/5363/products/Eastwood-Guitars_SD40HoundDog_Redburst_Right-hand_Full-front-angled_1090x.jpg?v=1488385600)

Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: Kontrapunctus on October 22, 2018, 11:49:38 AM
I no longer play electric guitar (and very little classical--I prefer the piano), but when I did, this 7-string custom GMW was my weapon of choice:

Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: drogulus on October 22, 2018, 02:10:00 PM
Quote from: Toccata&Fugue on October 22, 2018, 11:49:38 AM
I no longer play electric guitar (and very little classical--I prefer the piano), but when I did, this 7-string custom GMW was my weapon of choice:



     Wow, that's super disgraceful! (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/Smileys/classic/cheesy.gif)
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: NikF on October 26, 2018, 01:31:11 PM
Quote from: drogulus on October 17, 2018, 12:17:04 PM
     I have a question for the multitude. What illustrious electric guitar would you not want to own, and why?

I don't know for sure.

My ex bought me a tele with a huge neck that I don't believe I'll part with. I don't want anything else. But for the sake of the thread...

Some might know what I mean by the vibe of the Gibson ES 150 or even the 125. Charlie Christian and - I can't imagine he'll see this post, but SimonNZ will probably be familiar with this guy - Rene Thomas, playing an instrument that helps quickly, brightly, produce the fundamental note. I could buy a real nice vintage example, but I feel it would be too much guitar for me.

That's about it. But also, maybe a Mosrite that Bob Bogle(?) played with The Ventures. Or a 335 circa Alvin Lee? Here's one, whoever played the solo on 'It's So Easy' by Buddy Holly and the Crickets - would that be a Strat? Yeah, a Strat from that era.

What about you, drogulus? Got any guitars (or even guitar/amp combos) in mind?

Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: Ghost of Baron Scarpia on October 26, 2018, 03:14:38 PM
Quote from: drogulus on October 17, 2018, 12:17:04 PM
     I have a question for the multitude. What illustrious electric guitar would you not want to own, and why?

The one I have, the Gibson Super 400. It was produced in the 1980's, at one of the repeated nadirs of the Gibson brand. It is a faithful reproduction of the guitar they had made since the mid 20th century, but with inferior materials, workmanship, and no pride of manufacture.

My Gibson ES-335 from the mid 70's is a far superior in terms of quality of build.
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: drogulus on October 26, 2018, 03:34:42 PM
Quote from: NikF on October 26, 2018, 01:31:11 PM


What about you, drogulus? Got any guitars (or even guitar/amp combos) in mind?



     I think I don't want to own a Les Paul, even though I would like to own a guitar that sounds like a Les Paul, with a pair of humbuckers, mahogany with a maple top.

     I put this together on the Halo site as an alternative that would suit me better:

     (https://i.imgur.com/RREdOCy.jpg)

     A set of Peter Green humbuckers would complete the package.

     https://www.youtube.com/v/LTAhsJSoonI
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: NikF on October 26, 2018, 06:31:18 PM
Quote from: drogulus on October 26, 2018, 03:34:42 PM
     I think I don't want to own a Les Paul, even though I would like to own a guitar that sounds like a Les Paul, with a pair of humbuckers, mahogany with a maple top.

     I put this together on the Halo site as an alternative that would suit me better:

     (https://i.imgur.com/RREdOCy.jpg)

     A set of Peter Green humbuckers would complete the package.

     https://www.youtube.com/v/LTAhsJSoonI

Maybe I know what you mean, albeit for a far different reason. I like the way a Les Paul can play/sound, but it's perhaps too much class for a man like me.    ;D
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: drogulus on October 26, 2018, 07:01:31 PM
     The reason I wouldn't want the Les Paul is it's too heavy and the access to the upper frets is not so good. If not for those factors I absolutely would have to have one.
Title: Re: An Electric Guitar Thread
Post by: NikF on October 26, 2018, 07:21:08 PM
Quote from: drogulus on October 26, 2018, 07:01:31 PM
     The reason I wouldn't want the Les Paul is it's too heavy and the access to the upper frets is not so good. If not for those factors a I absolutely would have to have one.

I understand that. It's one of those compromises.

BTW, my amp conundrum - right now I'm living in an apartment. It's a (IMO) beautiful penthouse overlooking the harbour. Problem is, that's not conducive to playing an amp at the levels it can breathe. Anyway, to cut an already too long story short. I might be moving and if/when I'll still value your input. A tele neck pickup into a twin reverb with all the mids is - again IMO - beautiful. But maybe with your help I can get close to that with a smaller combo; it's clear your knowledge of speakers and stuff exceeds my own. So I'd like to hit you up on an ongoing basis.