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As ever, you have the facts wrong: She said there were four boys at the party and that two stayed downstairs while two were upstairs trying to rape her.

There are no indisputable, verified facts by third parties, only a fuzzy allegation.

— There is good evidence that the two she alleges were in the room, Kavanaugh and Mark Judge, were drinking buddies who got puking drunk together during this time period, just as Ford described: In one of Judge's memoirs (Wasted: Tales of a Gen X Drunk) he describes an incident when one "Bart O'Kavanaugh" puked all over someone's car during one of these bouts. Mark Judge needs to be questioned by the FBI, along with the rest of Kavanaugh's drinking buddies.

There is no evidence of anything. No indication and certainly no proof of where this incident took place or when it happened.

— Blasey-Ford is asking for an FBI investigation, Kavanaugh, who claims he wants to clear his name, is not. That should tell you something.

The FBI doesn't carry out this kind of investigation but would rather turn it over to local officials. They in turn would not be able to do anything with a 36 year old allegation where there are no witnesses or even an address. Again, you are missing the point, the timing here is everything and the motive crystal clear, to slander a good person's name and ruin an honorable career. It would not be the first this ever happened. Meanwhile the Dems can stretch the vetting process like chewing gum. Senator Feinstein's behavior alone was despicable in keeping back the letter for 6 weeks, which part of it was even redacted.
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Composer Discussion / Re: Sir William Walton
« Last post by SymphonicAddict on Today at 07:48:39 PM »
That Karabits performance is a good choice, it has good playing but I find it underwhelming I'm afraid, not as exciting as Haitink or Thomson. For me, the sheer courage is a key factor in this score.

However, speaking in terms of variety, these symphonies are extremely well served on recordings and there are different conductings and playings for every taste.
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The Polling Station / Your 5 favorite musical forms
« Last post by SymphonicAddict on Today at 07:35:44 PM »
Give me your 5 favorite musical forms with 5 maximum favorites of each that summarizes up your tastes the best. This is a serious list, please take your time by thinking very well about your choices. I expect sincere answers. Mine are:

-Symphonies
-Concertos
-Symphonic/Tone poems
-Piano quintets
-String quartets


1) Symphony
Dvorak - No. 8
Nielsen - No. 5
Brahms - No. 4
Tubin - No. 2
Atterberg - No. 3

2) Concerto
Alwyn - Lyra Angelica
Ravel - Concerto for the left hand
Schnittke - Cello concerto No. 1
Shostakovich - Violin concerto No. 1
Martinu - Oboe concerto

3) Symphonic/Tone poem
Strauss - An Alpine Symphony
Respighi - Church Windows
Smetana - The Moldau
Sibelius - The Wood Nymph
Malipiero - Impressioni dal Vero II

4) Piano quintet
Taneyev
Cras
Vierne
Ornstein
Elgar

5) String quartet
Beethoven - No. 14
Lutoslawski
Prokofiev - No. 2
Janacek - No. 2
Bartok - No. 4
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Great Recordings and Reviews / Re: The Art of Fugue
« Last post by milk on Today at 07:31:32 PM »


Extraordinary symphonic Thuringian organ here, at Gräfenroda made by Johann Anton Weise in 1736, under the direction of Johann Peter Kellner.  This recording had me jumping out of my seat a few times, the sounds are so unexpected, the flutes!!!!!! The bells!!!! I never knew organ music could sound like this.
Thanks. I had to get this based on the recommendation. Very rewarding listen.
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Composer Discussion / Re: Carl Vine (1954 -)
« Last post by Madiel on Today at 07:23:22 PM »
I have the box set of the first 6 symphonies.

The first 4 I find rewarding, and from memory I think I particularly liked the 3rd as well.  I'm afraid I find the 5th sorely lacking, though, and the 6th only a little better.

I still must purchase a recording of the first piano sonata, at least...
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General Classical Music Discussion / Re: What are you listening to now?
« Last post by Madiel on Today at 07:21:00 PM »
Haydn, Symphony No.96



With the last couple of discs of this box I'm finally onto pieces of music I already know (the other version I have of the London Symphonies is Davis and the Concertgebouw).

But I'm finding the differences in sound of the period instruments quite fascinating, as well as feeling like there's a difference between these and the earlier symphonies (having jumped forward about a decade in Haydn's own life).

It's not particularly better or worse, just... different! And enjoyable.
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The Jazz Lounge / Re: Jazz Purchases
« Last post by JBS on Today at 06:56:16 PM »
Missed these releases from earlier this year.  Remedied that just now off Amazon MP



Some of the Davis I have in uninspiring sonics.
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I beg to differ. I don't care for the "album as it was originally released" idea because I haven't listened to an entire album from start to finish since I was a teenager with a lot of time in his hands, and even then I preferred to play different bits and pieces from a bunch of different records, so the idea of having the contents reordered and reshuffled for efficiency doesn't strike me as blaspemous in any way.

Also, maybe you haven't noticed that a box set of one hundred 35-minute CDs costs exactly the same as a box set of one hundred 70-minute CDs, but a set of 50 70-minute CDs with the exact same contents rearranged would be considerably cheaper. If you grew up orphaned and poor like me, maybe you'll appreciate the difference.

Yep. Huge +1. I've never been a fan of this concept.
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Composer Discussion / Re: Hindemith's Harmonie
« Last post by SymphonicAddict on Today at 06:11:05 PM »
The music of a young composer with his creative juices in full flow. You are right Hindemith's music is well crafted, but many critics turn this positive into a negative by accusing him of dryness which not only unfair but inaccurate. To dispel that theory you have only to listen to the Labéque sisters tearing it up with his Sonata for Two Pianos.

A gifted brain to compose, Hindemith's stamp is a easily recognizable voice, sounding fresh and with a bunch of spicy and ironic touches. I really like his music. To be honest, I did find some dry-and-acid fragments in many of his works, but somehow I feel them rather original, without forgetting the effects and quirky rhythms and harmonies that catch your imagination.

Then the Sonata for two pianos will be a new work to me, so thanks for the suggestion. Ludus Tonalis receives a lot of praises as well.
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General Classical Music Discussion / Re: What are you listening to now?
« Last post by André on Today at 05:23:27 PM »


Fritz Brun (1878-1959) was a noted conductor and composer in his native Switzerland. His symphonies (he wrote 10) and other symphonic works were premiered by Hermann Scherchen, Volkmar Andrae, Paul Sacher - a who’s who of musical life in that country. I have read reviews of his symphonies and there seems to be a general consensus: they are knotty, gnarly works. Even the extremely informative booklet notes seem to agree that they are difficult to appreciate. One reviewer mentions that in the 5th symphony  Brun « forcibly melds the worlds of Brahms and Reger to those of Berg and Hartmann ». That is an interesting comment. I can’t say I detected much of Brahms or anything by Berg, but Reger and Hartmann certainly come to mind.

The composer whose sound world and style sprang to mind when listening to the 6th wasn’t any of the above, but rather Havergal Brian, who was only 2 years older than Brun. There is also the same sense of claustrophoby that inhabits the bleak northern soundscapes of Pettersson or Blomdahl - or the Nielsen of the 6th symphony. This is music that inhabits rock strewn landscapes, with much incidents that do not necessarily coalesce into a coherent whole. Rather, the music progresses in a seemingly haphazard way, with lots of non sequiturs. Lest that sound forbidding, I should say that my interest was piqued. I came to the conclusion that Brun prefers to present raw musical material without attempting to pad or tie things together for the sake of convention - a sort of blunt musical collage.
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