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Title: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: eumyang on April 29, 2013, 07:07:00 PM
Is there a recording of a work or works, by a certain performer/ensemble/orchestra, that doesn't exist, but you would like to see released one day?

For example, you could say, "I would like to see a complete piano works of Chopin by Jean-Yves Thibaudet."  (I'm aware of the "The Chopin I Love" CD, but no other Chopin CD's by him.)

However, don't suggest things that are not possible, like: "I would like to see a complete set of Shostakovich string quartets by the "original" members of the Borodin Quartet."  (IIRC They only recorded 1-13 because the last two weren't written yet, and of course, the "original" members are no more.)

What would I like to see?  This may sound silly, but I'd like to see a single 2-CD set containing the Transcendental Etudes of both Liszt and Lyapunov, all performed by the same person.  Such a set does not exist AFAIK, and I think it would be neat to have one.

What would the rest of you like to see released one day?
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Mirror Image on April 29, 2013, 07:08:06 PM
Another Hartmann and William Schuman symphonic cycle. 'Nuff said.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Brian on April 29, 2013, 07:52:06 PM
- a satisfactory recording of the restored original score of Janacek's Glagolitic Mass (Mackerras is decent; Janowski is a disaster)
- a suitably festive recording of Dvorak's Te Deum (again, current options are unsatisfactory)
- various tasks in mind for various performers: Edward Rosser should play Debussy and Satie, Ingolf Wunder should play Scarlatti, Tianwa Yang and Wieniawski, Sally Pinkas and Scriabin, Herbert Schuch in Beethoven sonatas
- remaining Bach cello suites on viola from Maxim Rysanov and Antoine Tamestit
- Mahler's Third from Warsaw PO/Antoni Wit (the best concert I've ever seen)
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Mirror Image on April 29, 2013, 08:39:17 PM
While I'm thinking about it, a complete David Diamond symphony cycle would also be on my list.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Geo Dude on April 29, 2013, 09:23:13 PM
Off the top of my head, a complete rendering of Brahms' chamber music (including solo piano music) on period instruments; getting all of his orchestral material with period instruments would be nice, too.

Beethoven's late quartets and/or a complete quartet cycle rendered by a period instrument group would also be great.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Sergeant Rock on April 30, 2013, 02:57:11 AM
We Brianites pray for the first commercial recordings of Havergal's Symphonies 19, 26, 27, 28 and 29. Brian's opera The Tigers is also wanted.

Sarge
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: North Star on April 30, 2013, 03:40:28 AM
The unrecorded Martinu operas come to mind. And a +1 to that Glagolitic!
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Mirror Image on April 30, 2013, 10:54:08 AM
Also a modern, up-to-date cycle of Chavez symphonies would be awesome.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Todd on April 30, 2013, 11:21:22 AM
Excluding some recording projects that are already underway (eg, Bavouzet LvB), the below would tickle my fancy:

Complete LvB piano sonatas – Michael Endres
Complete LvB piano sonatas – Herbert Schuch
Complete LvB piano sonatas (HIP) – Andrea Lucchesini
Debussy, Preludes – Arcadi Volodos
Debussy, Preludes – Herbert Schuch
Debussy, Preludes - Piotr Anderszewki
Schubert, D845 forward (or any sonatas, really) - Andrea Lucchesini
Albeniz, Iberia – Nelson Freire
Liszt, Consolations – Herbert Schuch
Liszt, Transcendental Studies – Herbert Schuch
Liszt, Transcendental Studies – Arcadi Volodos
Liszt, Annees de Pelerinage - Herbert Schuch
Mozart Piano Sonatas (complete, or just the later ones) – David Greilsammer
Szymanowski, Masques & Metopes – Krystian Zimerman
Scarlatti – lots more from Christian Zacharias
Haydn, Opp 20, 33 – Prazak Quartet
Haydn, Opp 76, 77 – Pacifica Quartet
Bartok, Complete String Quartets – Pacifica Quartet
Beethoven, Complete String Quartets – Brentano Quartet
Messiaen, St Francois d'Assise – Pierre Boulez
Wagner, Tristan und Isolde – Franz Welser-Möst
Verdi, Falstaff – Danielle Gatti
Verdi, Don Carlo – Danielle Gatti
Mahler, Fourth Symphony – Franz Welser-Möst
Dvorak, Sixth Symphony – Antoni Wit
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: DavidRoss on April 30, 2013, 11:45:08 AM
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on April 30, 2013, 02:57:11 AM
We Brianites ...
Somehow I misread that as "Braineaters."

http://www.youtube.com/v/h0qSkue8l6U

I'd still like to hear what Boulez would do with Sibelius's symphonies. And complete Quatuor Mosaïques Beethoven cycle, please. Hagen, too. More Ivan Fischer Mahler.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Brian on April 30, 2013, 11:52:05 AM
Quote from: Todd on April 30, 2013, 11:21:22 AM
Dvorak, Sixth Symphony – Antoni Wit

A few years ago Antoni Wit did an interview where he said he'd been offered to record the complete Dvorak vocal/orchestra music - Stabat Mater, Requiem, Te Deum, Mass, The American Flag, etc. He said he felt he was too busy but would try to squeeze it in. Hope that will be the case.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Parsifal on April 30, 2013, 11:57:36 AM
Quote from: DavidRoss on April 30, 2013, 11:45:08 AMI'd still like to hear what Boulez would do with Sibelius's symphonies.

Well, yes, an attractive idea.  But we already know what Boulez has done with Sibelius symphonies, pointedly ignored them.   A Boulez that didn't find Sibelius insufferable wouldn't be Boulez, afterall.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Superhorn on April 30, 2013, 02:18:41 PM
   The set of the Chavez symphonies conducted by the late,lamented Eduoardo Mata with the LSO on Vox will be hard to beat .
   Mata was a pupil of Chavez, and these recordings are authoritative, and the budget price makes it  irresistable . Hope it's still available .
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Mirror Image on April 30, 2013, 02:20:34 PM
Quote from: Superhorn on April 30, 2013, 02:18:41 PM
   The set of the Chavez symphonies conducted by the late,lamented Eduoardo Mata with the LSO on Vox will be hard to beat .
   Mata was a pupil of Chavez, and these recordings are authoritative, and the budget price makes it  irresistable . Hope it's still available .

I personally don't think they will be hard to beat. :) I didn't think much of those performances nor do I think the LSO were a good choice and the boxy sound from Vox doesn't help.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Superhorn on April 30, 2013, 02:28:19 PM
   We need an uncut recording of Wagner's Rienzi , perhaps with Christian Thielemann and  the Staatskepelle, Dresden, and Jonas Kaufmann .
   A new recording of  Die Schweigsame frau by Strauss, also with Thielemann and Dresden .
  Ginastera's operas Bomarzo , and  Don Rodrigo . The latter has not been recorded .  The opera Montezuma by Roger Sessions .
  A new recording of  "Evocations" by Albert Roussel , with Stephane Deneve for Naxos . 
 
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Brian on April 30, 2013, 03:07:08 PM
Quote from: Superhorn on April 30, 2013, 02:28:19 PM
   A new recording of  Die Schweigsame frau by Strauss, also with Thielemann and Dresden .
  A new recording of  "Evocations" by Albert Roussel , with Stephane Deneve for Naxos . 
A new recording of that Strauss opera was just released on CPO, although since it is a CPO production, the orchestra will obviously not be in the class of Dresden. I agree with you on Roussel's "Evocations" (and some choral-orchestral music like the Psalm) but unfortunately the CEO of Naxos has definitely stated that their Roussel series is finished.  :(
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Mirror Image on April 30, 2013, 04:05:08 PM
Quote from: Superhorn on April 30, 2013, 02:28:19 PMA new recording of  "Evocations" by Albert Roussel , with Stephane Deneve for Naxos Hanssler.

Fixed. :)
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Pat B on May 01, 2013, 07:18:43 AM
Quote from: Geo Dude on April 29, 2013, 09:23:13 PM
Beethoven's late quartets and/or a complete quartet cycle rendered by a period instrument group would also be great.

THIS. I don't care if it's a single cycle. I just want to see a good period option for each of them.

I'd also like more recordings with Vera Beths as a soloist. She has a large catalog of chamber music, but only a handful of solo turns. But I don't know if she's recording at all these days.

Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Geo Dude on May 01, 2013, 09:00:55 AM
Quote from: Pat B on May 01, 2013, 07:18:43 AM
THIS. I don't care if it's a single cycle. I just want to see a good period option for each of them.

I'd also like more recordings with Vera Beths as a soloist. She has a large catalog of chamber music, but only a handful of solo turns. But I don't know if she's recording at all these days.



I have no objections to either of those ideas, of course.  Another thing I'd like is for period instrument specialists to dig more heavily into Schubert's solo piano works.  I mean, sure, having the Impromptus available is nice but a box set of the sonatas would be wonderful.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Wakefield on May 01, 2013, 09:14:10 AM
Quote from: sanantonio on May 01, 2013, 09:02:47 AM
Martin Bilson has done an excellent complete sonatas on fortepiano.  It is on NML but I'm not sure how easy it is to find otherwise.

Malcolm... one of our tutelary gods. My favorite Schubert, even over Badura-Skoda.  :)
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Archaic Torso of Apollo on May 01, 2013, 10:21:59 AM
Another Simpson symphony cycle. Much as I value the Hyperion recordings, I've always felt they could be done differently, and in some cases better.

Meanwhile, Naxos should finish its stalled Rochberg symphony cycle (currently missing 3, 4 and 6).
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Brian on May 01, 2013, 10:28:30 AM
Quote from: Velimir on May 01, 2013, 10:21:59 AM
Another Simpson symphony cycle. Much as I value the Hyperion recordings, I've always felt they could be done differently, and in some cases better.
I felt this way about Atterberg, but then Chandos took it up and unfortunately chose Neeme Jarvi... so I got my wish but not really.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Opus106 on May 01, 2013, 10:39:28 AM
Quote from: Geo Dude on May 01, 2013, 09:00:55 AM
Another thing I'd like is for period instrument specialists to dig more heavily into Schubert's solo piano works.  I mean, sure, having the Impromptus available is nice but a box set of the sonatas would be wonderful.

Just a week to go: http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00BWUXJ1O/?tag=goodmusicgu0a-21
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Opus106 on May 01, 2013, 10:45:41 AM
Quote from: sanantonio on May 01, 2013, 10:42:04 AM
That link takes me to the French Amazon Kindle page.

I apologise for that; missed the last letter of the ASIN. It's now corrected.


Update: I now see that it's also listed at UK (it wasn't, initially), and it turns out to be the cheaper and the Englisher of the two options, but the release date is in June.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00BWUXJ1O/?tag=goodmusicguideco-21
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Superhorn on May 02, 2013, 09:20:01 AM
   But Neeme Jarvi should be a great choice for  Atterberg . There's no one better in Scandinavian music . That's his element .
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: DavidRoss on May 02, 2013, 09:34:15 AM
I should add that I'd like to see more recordings of new compositions by contemporary composers performed by MTT/SFS. Heard them premiere a fine Sam Adams piece last year and know they're rehearsing a new one by his dad.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Brian on May 02, 2013, 09:34:22 AM
Quote from: Superhorn on May 02, 2013, 09:20:01 AM
   But Neeme Jarvi should be a great choice for  Atterberg . There's no one better in Scandinavian music . That's his element .
The problem is Atterberg's music is very romantic, and Neeme Jarvi is not a talented romantic conductor. His style is to elicit highly skilled, polished, rhythmically sharp orchestral playing, but disregard any emotional elements and refuse to indulge melodies, tease phrases, etc. Jarvi is in essence the world's finest metronome. Thus in the past year alone he's given us soulless Saint-Saens, Atterberg about which I'm ambivalent, and new this month Chabrier so cold that I had to turn it off in sadness.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Parsifal on May 02, 2013, 12:28:18 PM
Quote from: sanantonio on May 02, 2013, 09:49:44 AM
An unfair and gratuitously harsh assessment of a fine conductor, if you ask me.

Jarvi may not be one to stop and smell the roses, but knows how to balance complex orchestral passages and obtain a clear texture.  He also knows how to pick up a score no one has heard in 100 years and find the music in it. 

That said, I adore the cpo Atterberg series and don't feel the need to have Jarvi's.  We already have beautifully performed and recorded Atterberg, and I would have been more interested in more idiosynchratic performances, which is not Jarvi's thing.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Parsifal on May 02, 2013, 12:30:12 PM
Back to the topic, would it be too much to ask for Pollini to do Book II of the WTC, or Book II of the Debussy Preludes?  What is he waiting for?  He doesn't look too frisky on recent album covers.   :o
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: The new erato on May 02, 2013, 01:11:08 PM
A complete Bloch quartet cycle by the Pacifica quartet.
Title: Re: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Karl Henning on May 02, 2013, 01:17:07 PM
Quote from: Parsifal on May 02, 2013, 12:28:18 PM
Jarvi may not be one to stop and smell the roses, but knows how to balance complex orchestral passages and obtain a clear texture.

You may be correct on a technicality: he probably does know how. I find his execution (as evinced in the boatload of Prokofiev he was contracted for, for the centenary) regretfully mixed.  Knowledge alone, was not power, there.
Title: Re: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Parsifal on May 02, 2013, 01:24:06 PM
Quote from: karlhenning on May 02, 2013, 01:17:07 PM
You may be correct on a technicality: he probably does know how. I find his execution (as evinced in the boatload of Prokofiev he was contracted for, for the centenary) regretfully mixed.  Knowledge alone, was not power, there.

The recordings he made with Goethenberg, particularly with BIS, are pure gold.  With those technicolor Chandos recordings, who knows what the performance actually sounded like before the engineers were finished with it.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Karl Henning on May 02, 2013, 02:00:21 PM
Well, there are flaws which are the band, and no doing of the engineers; and that speaks of insufficient rehearsal, at the least.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Parsifal on May 02, 2013, 02:09:09 PM
Quote from: karlhenning on May 02, 2013, 02:00:21 PM
Well, there are flaws which are the band, and no doing of the engineers; and that speaks of insufficient rehearsal, at the least.

If you rehearse a Prokofiev symphony enough you can perhaps achieve a result which is boring, instead of horrid.  (Just my opinion, of course.)  I probably should exclude the 5th from that (and the first, which requires no rehearsal to be boring).   ;D

Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Ten thumbs on May 02, 2013, 02:37:01 PM
Instead of yet more recordings of Brahms' late piano works, I'd like to see top pianists giving interpretations of the better output of Heller and Kirchner. That way people will eventually realize that there is little comparative difference in quality between the one and the other (much as I love the Brahms).
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: kishnevi on May 02, 2013, 07:44:27 PM
Quote from: The new erato on May 02, 2013, 01:11:08 PM
A complete Bloch quartet cycle by the Pacifica quartet.

Erato, do you have this?  True it's not a full cycle, but it comes with an excitedly positive review from Jens.
[asin]B000276K3M[/asin]

And I see there's a (I think) complete cycle from the Portland String Quartet.

Regarding the Pacificas,  I'd be interested in hearing them play Bartok and/or extend their explorations of Russian/Soviet chamber works.
Quote from: Parsifal on May 02, 2013, 12:30:12 PM
Back to the topic, would it be too much to ask for Pollini to do Book II of the WTC, or Book II of the Debussy Preludes?  What is he waiting for?  He doesn't look too frisky on recent album covers.   :o

Definite agreement with you there on the desireability of those recordings--and of his getting around to complete that Beethoven cycle he's supposedly completing.   
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: The new erato on May 02, 2013, 09:56:43 PM
Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on May 02, 2013, 07:44:27 PM
Erato, do you have this?  True it's not a full cycle, but it comes with an excitedly positive review from Jens.
[asin]B000276K3M[/asin]

And I see there's a (I think) complete cycle from the Portland String Quartet.

Yes, I have the Griller and it is wonderful. As reported here by me on several occasions once upon a time. But it doesn't fill the bill, as somehow I imagine the Portland won't either.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Karl Henning on May 03, 2013, 03:46:20 AM
Quote from: Parsifal on May 02, 2013, 02:09:09 PM
If you rehearse a Prokofiev symphony enough you can perhaps achieve a result which is boring, instead of horrid.  (Just my opinion, of course.)

A specious rationalization of insufficient rehearsal.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Parsifal on May 03, 2013, 06:41:32 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on May 03, 2013, 03:46:20 AM
A specious rationalization of insufficient rehearsal.

Tsk, tsk, no sense of humor, have we?  One bad CD doesn't make Jarvi an incompetent conductor.  My only point is that, the 5th aside, I don't think I can distinguish a good from a bad performance of a Prokofiev symphony.   ;D

Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Mirror Image on May 03, 2013, 06:45:04 AM
Quote from: Parsifal on May 03, 2013, 06:41:32 AM
Tsk, tsk, no sense of humor, have we?  One bad CD doesn't make Jarvi an incompetent conductor.  My only point is that, the 5th aside, I don't think I can distinguish a good from a bad performance of a Prokofiev symphony.   ;D

Jarvi is a very good conductor, but like all good conductors, he's recorded some duds. His Tubin recordings, however, have elevated this composer's status beyond obscurity. His recording of Honegger on Chandos is still a favorite. I love his Prokofiev as well.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: kyjo on October 06, 2013, 06:33:38 AM
Just discovered this thread-here's my wish list of composers whose complete orchestral works I would love to see recorded in top-notch performances and sound:

David Diamond
Stjepan Sulek
Vaino Raitio
Leon Orthel
Ruth Gipps
Janis Ivanovs
Alberto Williams
Joseph Jongen
Arthur Meulemans
Claudio Santoro
Pancho Vladigerov
Miloslav Kabelac
Vitezslav Novak
Paul von Klenau
Heino Eller
Ernest Pingoud
Charles Koechlin
Gyula David
John Kinsella
Ildebrando Pizzetti
Adolfs Skulte
Carlos Chavez
Ragnar Soderlind
Grazyna Bacewicz (just the symphonies would be fine)
Alexander Goedicke
Paul Juon (rumor has it that Naxos is planning a series of his orchestral works, though)
Maximilian Steinberg
Sergei Vasilenko
Jan Zimmer
Lucijan Marija Skerjanc
John Fernstrom
Hans Eklund
Hilding Rosenberg
Yngve Skold
Ernest Bloch
Boris Lyatoshinsky
Stanley Bate
Arthur Butterworth
Arnold Cooke
John McCabe
Graham Whettam
Ernst Bacon
Paul Creston
Arthur Farwell
Samuel Jones
Charles Martin Loeffler
Gardner Read
Leo Sowerby
Also, it would be nice to see modern recordings of the Miaskovsky and Tournemire symphonies.

Restraint is my middle name! :P











Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Brian on October 06, 2013, 08:15:45 AM
Quote from: kyjo on October 06, 2013, 06:33:38 AM
Grazyna Bacewicz (just the symphonies would be fine)

Wish granted!

"Wit's latest releases are preceded by an astonishing catalogue of more than 180 CDs. Casting his mind back over this formidable output, what handful of projects stand out for him as the most rewarding peaks in his career? What does he remember with the greatest pleasure? 'Oh! It's so difficult to say! I'm very happy that we did all of Szymanowski, Lutosławski, Penderecki, Kilar and Gorecki—and many things of Paderewski and Wieniawski too. And we're now going on to Moniuszko, Weinberg maybe, Panufnik and Bacewicz, so there's a lot of Polish music still to come, which of course pleases me very much."
- interview with Antoni Wit, 2011 (http://www.naxos.com/news/?op=892&displayMenu=Interviews&type=2)
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: kyjo on October 06, 2013, 09:21:32 AM
Quote from: Brian on October 06, 2013, 08:15:45 AM
Wish granted!

"Wit's latest releases are preceded by an astonishing catalogue of more than 180 CDs. Casting his mind back over this formidable output, what handful of projects stand out for him as the most rewarding peaks in his career? What does he remember with the greatest pleasure? 'Oh! It's so difficult to say! I'm very happy that we did all of Szymanowski, Lutosławski, Penderecki, Kilar and Gorecki—and many things of Paderewski and Wieniawski too. And we're now going on to Moniuszko, Weinberg maybe, Panufnik and Bacewicz, so there's a lot of Polish music still to come, which of course pleases me very much."
- interview with Antoni Wit, 2011 (http://www.naxos.com/news/?op=892&displayMenu=Interviews&type=2)

Awesome, Brian! I couldn't imagine a better advocate for Bacewicz's music than Wit. He's right at home in Polish music.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Brian on September 04, 2015, 10:55:33 AM
Liszt: Variations on Weinen, Klagen, Sorgen, Zagen
Franck: Prelude, Chorale, et Fugue
Mendelssohn: Six Preludes and Fugues, Op. 35
Herbert Schuch, piano

Scarlatti Meets Satie
Edward Rosser, piano

"Images"
Debussy: Images, Book I
Tan Dun: Eight Memories in Watercolor
Cage: In a Landscape
Mussorgsky: Pictures at an Exhibition
Arcadi Volodos or Kotaro Fukuma, piano
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Drasko on September 04, 2015, 11:18:10 AM
I'd like some orchestral recordings of 20th century Serbian composers like Dragutin Gostuski, Vasilije Mokranjac, Milan Ristic, Petar Konjovic .... Either for existing older recordings from ex-yugoslavian times to get reissued on CD (currently mostly not available in any form) or new recordings by local, or any other, orchestras. Though chances for either to happen are probably negligible in current economic climate.   
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Ken B on September 04, 2015, 11:57:32 AM
Better stereo versions of these badly under-served masterpieces:

Four Saints in Three Acts Virgil Thomson

A Little Night Music Stephen Sondheim

and the complete symphonies of Michael Nyman.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: The new erato on September 04, 2015, 10:03:15 PM
Quote from: Brian on October 06, 2013, 08:15:45 AM
Wish granted!

"Wit's latest releases are preceded by an astonishing catalogue of more than 180 CDs. Casting his mind back over this formidable output, what handful of projects stand out for him as the most rewarding peaks in his career? What does he remember with the greatest pleasure? 'Oh! It's so difficult to say! I'm very happy that we did all of Szymanowski, Lutosławski, Penderecki, Kilar and Gorecki—and many things of Paderewski and Wieniawski too. And we're now going on to Moniuszko, Weinberg maybe, Panufnik and Bacewicz, so there's a lot of Polish music still to come, which of course pleases me very much."
- interview with Antoni Wit, 2011 (http://www.naxos.com/news/?op=892&displayMenu=Interviews&type=2)
Seem like he meant the Bacewitz quartets and not the symphonies though.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Scion7 on September 05, 2015, 12:29:02 AM
Quote from: The new erato on September 04, 2015, 10:03:15 PM
Seem like he meant the Bacewitz quartets and not the symphonies though.

Any/all of the chamber music by her that is not currently available or never recorded would be very much appreciated.  :-)

The previous quote about the symphonies - specifically the 4th - peaks my interest - there was only the old Polish radio broadcast performance of this, from manuscript, I believe - so someone will need to take photocopies/corrections of the original for rehearsals.  It would be a miracle if the scores from the original performance were still around and intact?
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Brian on September 05, 2015, 10:48:02 AM
Quote from: The new erato on September 04, 2015, 10:03:15 PM
Seem like he meant the Bacewitz quartets and not the symphonies though.
I think he meant the symphonies - he has recorded Moniuszko and Weinberg since that interview, so I don't see why not. The problem is last year the Warsaw Philharmonic signed an exclusive deal with Warner, so Wit will have to record with a lesser orchestra from now on. Naxos is still releasing a backlog of Warsaw/Wit recordings made before that contract - next month's new Penderecki album is a 3-year-old recording.

(http://cdn.naxos.com/SharedFiles/images/cds/others/8.573062.gif)
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Christo on September 05, 2015, 10:54:36 AM
Quote from: kyjo on October 06, 2013, 06:33:38 AM
Just discovered this thread-here's my wish list of composers whose complete orchestral works I would love to see recorded in top-notch performances and sound:

David Diamond
Stjepan Sulek
Vaino Raitio
Leon Orthel
Ruth Gipps
Janis Ivanovs
Alberto Williams
Joseph Jongen
Arthur Meulemans
Claudio Santoro
Pancho Vladigerov
Miloslav Kabelac
Vitezslav Novak
Paul von Klenau
Heino Eller
Ernest Pingoud
Charles Koechlin
Gyula David
John Kinsella
Ildebrando Pizzetti
Adolfs Skulte
Carlos Chavez
Ragnar Soderlind
Grazyna Bacewicz (just the symphonies would be fine)
Alexander Goedicke
Paul Juon (rumor has it that Naxos is planning a series of his orchestral works, though)
Maximilian Steinberg
Sergei Vasilenko
Jan Zimmer
Lucijan Marija Skerjanc
John Fernstrom
Hans Eklund
Hilding Rosenberg
Yngve Skold
Ernest Bloch
Boris Lyatoshinsky
Stanley Bate
Arthur Butterworth
Arnold Cooke
John McCabe
Graham Whettam
Ernst Bacon
Paul Creston
Arthur Farwell
Samuel Jones
Charles Martin Loeffler
Gardner Read
Leo Sowerby
Also, it would be nice to see modern recordings of the Miaskovsky and Tournemire symphonies.

Restraint is my middle name! :P

Almost all my hopes & wishes are on this list.  :-X
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: techniquest on September 08, 2015, 12:22:13 AM
I'd like to see a new set of Khachaturian symphonies recorded (Naxos would be good :) ) The Tjeknavorian set with the Armenian PO on ASV was really not very good, and the CDs themselves suffered with deterioration.
I'd also like to see a new recording of Shchedrin's ballet "Anna Karenina". The Simonov recording, which has had several incarnations, is great but it's very treble-heavy (trumpets to make your ears bleed).
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Karl Henning on September 08, 2015, 03:37:49 AM
Just want to add the parenthesis that "Naxos would be good" of course means that the performing organization provides the means, and as a result, the recording, and Naxos is just the distribution channel.  A by-now marvelously well-positioned distribution channel, to be sure  8)
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Maestro267 on September 09, 2015, 05:02:04 AM
- A complete cycle of the 13 symphonies of Daniel Jones. Currently we only have Nos. 4 & 6-9 available.

- Peter Maxwell Davies' 7th, 8th & 9th Symphonies. It's a shame that one of the great living symphony cycles is not available complete on disc.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: ritter on September 09, 2015, 05:47:53 AM
I now remember there was a similar thread already on GMG. I reproduce the list I wrote at the time:

Quote from: ritter on December 26, 2014, 12:47:16 PM
I'd really want to see these operas recorded:

- Roger Sessions: Montezuma
- Alberto Ginastera: Don Rodrigo, Beatrix Cenci and Bomarzo (the latter was available on LP on CBS, but only transferred to CD in a limited release by the Argentine consulate in Miami--with rather sloppy prodcution standards  >:( )
- Manuel de Falla/Ernesto Halffter: Atlántida (both the pioneering Frühbeck and the later Edmon Colomer recordings are long OOP, and the work deserves wider recognition and a modern version)
- Heitor Villa-Lobos: Yerma.
- Ernst Krenek: Das Leben des Orest, Pallas Athene weint
- Vincent d'Indy: Fervaal. His L'Etranger (available from Accord) was a bit of a letdown--a sort of poor man's Parsifal, with rather tacky mysticism--but I still would want to get to know this (apparently) more ambitious work
- Reynaldo Hahn: Le Marchand de Venise (a mid-70's performance from the Palais Garnier under Rosenthal is available from a "live opera specialist" in Italy  ::) , but in poor sound and with annoying radio commentary at some moments).
- Henri Pousseur: Votre Faust (again, there was a LP of this available, but it was never transferred to CD).
- Deodat de Sévérac: Heliogabale.
Alas, no recording of any of these works has materialised over the past months (that would have been too good to be true). I have located bootleg recordings (from a reliable sorce) of Beatrix Cenci, Fervaal and Héliogabale, though  (but haven't yet bought them).

EDIT: Another work that needs a recording is Gaspare Sponitini's Agnes von Hohenstaufen. There's bootleg recordings by Vittorio Gui (early 50s) and Riccardo Muti (1970 IIRC), both from the Maggio Musicale Fiorentino, but in Italian translation. And Fernand Cortez by the same composer would be nice to see as well. The only studio recording (in the original French,  on the Accord label) is long OOP and prohibitevely expensive (second-hand from MP sellers).
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Ten thumbs on November 03, 2015, 12:17:57 PM
As they are amongst the finest ever (her brother, Felix Mendelssohn, said of them: the most beautiful that man can create), it's time there was a compete recording of Fanny Hensel's lieder (I believe the count of them is 243, but that may have changed).
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Daverz on November 03, 2015, 03:19:02 PM
Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on May 02, 2013, 07:44:27 PM
Erato, do you have this?  True it's not a full cycle, but it comes with an excitedly positive review from Jens.
[asin]B000276K3M[/asin]

More the pity that the live recording of SQ5 by the Pro Arte Quartet -- in an otherwise excellent cycle of the quartets -- has substandard sound.  Hopefully some young quartet will take up these works on record.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: amw on November 03, 2015, 05:35:48 PM
Reissues/box sets:
Arditti Quartet: The Complete Gramavision, Montaigne and Naïve Recordings
Taneyev Quartet: Complete Recordings
Juilliard Quartet 1946-1970
RZ's Jani Christou edition

New recordings:
Theodor Kirchner: Sämtliche Klavierwerke
Remaining orchestral works of Jan Křtitel Václav Kalivoda (perhaps CPO is already doing this?)
Some more music by Horațiu Rădulescu
Gabriel Fauré: Intégrale de la musique de piano sur les instruments de l'époque
Carl Nielsen: Suite Op. 45, played by Martha Argerich (ok I know this one will never happen)
James Dillon: Nine Rivers
Richard Barrett: CONSTRUCTION
Beethoven: String Quartets Opp. 127-135, played by the Chiaroscuro Quartet (period instruments)
Bartók: Quartets 1-4, played by the Arcanto Quartett
Hindemith: Das Marienleben (1923 version) sung by Juliane Banse with the accompaniment of... idk probably Siegfried Mauser if he's still alive
Schubert: String Quintet D956, played by the Arditti Quartet with Rohan de Saram (yeah this probably won't happen either but let's be real, not like any of these things will happen, and I am curious)
Brian Ferneyhough: Works for orchestra
Liza Lim: The Navigators
Bernard van Dieren: the string quartets
things by Miloslav Kabeláč

and many more!

Maybe some of the random scores I sometimes find at the library and search for only to find that the composer has never been recorded before, eg Jean Martinet's Orphée and Karl Georg Peter Grädener's String Trio in the last couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Todd on November 01, 2017, 06:46:56 AM
In light of the news that there is a presumably and/or hopefully new Jean-Rodolphe Kars recording of the Vingt Regards coming next month, this seems a good time to ineffectually hope for the pianist to record Liszt's Harmonies poétiques et religieuses.  He might be able to match Michel Block in the Benediction.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Omicron9 on November 03, 2017, 09:29:44 AM
A new Bartok cycle from the Emerson Quartet.  I have their 1989 recording on DG, which is excellent.  However, I saw them perform the entire set in a single concert in 1995 at Tanglewood, and their interpretation had really expanded and developed since the recording.  I gave up on a live CD from that performance (it was recorded), but am still hoping they'll re-record this cycle.  It would be devastating.  For me, anyway.

-09
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Omicron9 on November 03, 2017, 09:30:51 AM
Quote from: Daverz on November 03, 2015, 03:19:02 PM
More the pity that the live recording of SQ5 by the Pro Arte Quartet -- in an otherwise excellent cycle of the quartets -- has substandard sound.  Hopefully some young quartet will take up these works on record.

I can entirely recommend the Bloch/Griller set.  A slightly older-sounding recording, but the performance is just excellent.  I have the Pro Arte recordings, but the recording quality isn't that good for a modern DDD recording, and (my opinion) the performance isn't as good as the Griller set.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Parsifal on November 03, 2017, 09:32:58 AM
Quote from: Omicron9 on November 03, 2017, 09:29:44 AM
A new Bartok cycle from the Emerson Quartet.  I have their 1989 recording on DG, which is excellent.  However, I saw them perform the entire set in a single concert in 1995 at Tanglewood, and their interpretation had really expanded and developed since the recording.  I gave up on a live CD from that performance (it was recorded), but am still hoping they'll re-record this cycle.  It would be devastating.  For me, anyway.

-09

The Emerson Quartet has disbanded, no?
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Todd on November 03, 2017, 09:38:46 AM
Quote from: Scarpia on November 03, 2017, 09:32:58 AM
The Emerson Quartet has disbanded, no?


No. 
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Brian on November 03, 2017, 09:40:11 AM
Quote from: Scarpia on November 03, 2017, 09:32:58 AM
The Emerson Quartet has disbanded, no?
I believe they just released an album of Purcell and Britten.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Parsifal on November 03, 2017, 09:42:54 AM
Now I remember, the cellist quit the group.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Jo498 on November 04, 2017, 01:02:14 AM
Quote from: Omicron9 on November 03, 2017, 09:30:51 AM
I can entirely recommend the Bloch/Griller set.  A slightly older-sounding recording, but the performance is just excellent.  I have the Pro Arte recordings, but the recording quality isn't that good for a modern DDD recording, and (my opinion) the performance isn't as good as the Griller set.
I have the Griller 1-4 but the 5th quartet was not recorded by them. I am loth to order one expensive disc from the US only for the 5th quartet. Overall the "scandal" is that there are not more and more recent and easily available recordings of this music. The piano quintets fare considerably better with two "modern" and available recordings (Hyperion and Praga? or another Czech label).
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Omicron9 on November 04, 2017, 08:36:01 AM
Quote from: Jo498 on November 04, 2017, 01:02:14 AM
I have the Griller 1-4 but the 5th quartet was not recorded by them. I am loth to order one expensive disc from the US only for the 5th quartet. Overall the "scandal" is that there are not more and more recent and easily available recordings of this music. The piano quintets fare considerably better with two "modern" and available recordings (Hyperion and Praga? or another Czech label).

Quite so: Grillers is 1 - 4, and I believe 5 was yet to be composed at the time of their recordings.  The Pro Arte have done all five, but (my opinion here) the performances are not up to the Griller's standards, and the recording quality is disappointing.  So I agree with you: a new Bloch cycle would be an exciting development!

Interesting thread, this.

-09
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Brian on February 01, 2021, 07:01:44 PM
BUMP

I've just learned that African American photographer and documentarian Gordon Parks composed a piano concerto, a ballet about/dedicated to MLK, and a symphony. Albert Murray described the piano concerto as not sounding jazzy, but rather "like Honegger in a darkroom." It seems that none of this music has been recorded - a pity, could potentially be important music to document. If you google his name and "piano concerto," there is a Washington Post review of a 1997 concert of his music preserved which suggests that it might be quite good.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Que on February 02, 2021, 12:14:10 AM
A complete HIP LvB SQ cycle, preferably by the Shuppanzigh Quartett!  8)
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Jo498 on February 02, 2021, 08:40:49 AM
I am still puzzled that about 40 years after the first Beethoven symphony recordings on old instruments and with at least 5 symphony cycles complete already in the mid/late 1990s there is still comparably little with HIP string quartet. Haydn, yes, but  by Mozart more mixed ensemble works than quartets and not much Beethoven except for op.18.
But of course there are lots of Beethoven quartet recordings and also a few HIP. Whereas for the Bloch quartets we are still with Griller and not much else. For Milhaud quartets there was a complete recording (quatuor parisii) but it has been long oop and apparently never re-issued in any format. Similarly with the Honegger quartets where there are two recordings or so but only expensively or as mp3 downloads.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Todd on February 02, 2021, 08:55:46 AM
To stick with the spirit of Brian's post, I'd like to see an Adolphus Hailstork edition from a label willing to plump for a proper American big band - Chicago being preferred.

From my original post, the Lucchesini Schubert came mostly true, and met expectations.

New ideas:

- Nils Mönkemeyer doing Bartok, Martinu, Berlioz, and Piston
- YES doing every piece of core rep.  If I must choose only a few, late Brahms, Ravel, and Debussy.  Szymanowski as a bonus.
- William Youn finishing his Schubert post-haste and then laying down the Annees de Pelerinage.
- Jamina Gerl playing some Beethoven and Liszt.
- Hermes Quartet in all core rep, starting with Schubert.
- Sergei Babayan playing some Chopin.  Any will work.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: DavidW on February 02, 2021, 10:14:42 AM
I would like to see another recording of Robert Simpson's symphonies NOT on Hyperion Records so that it would be available to the masses (i.e. to stream).  They don't stream and they don't keep their recordings in print.  It is pay for digital download or forget the music exists.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: jlopes on February 02, 2021, 10:44:35 AM
- Murray Perahia, the complete Well-Tempered Clavier. Because Perahia is my favorite Bach keyboard interpreter. I don't think it's possible, though, due to his health.

- Christian Gerhaher, Winterreise. A new recording. Gerhaher was too young when he first recorded the cycle. His second Müllerin is way better than the first. His new Winterreise would be the one for the century.

- Krystian Zimerman, opp. 109/110/111.

- Mitsuko Uchida, Diabelli Variations. She was supposed to recorded it last April. It was covid-delayed. Still waiting.

- Christian Tetzlaff, Berg Violin Concerto, paired with the Ligeti Concerto. But I would gladly accept the Schoenberg Concerto too.

- Stephen Hough, Musica Callada.

- Danish String Quartet, Bartók's six quartets.

- Kirill Gerstein, Années de Pèlerinage. And Francesco Piemontesi's missing third year. Piemontesi said in an interview that he'd "really like" to pair it with the B Minor Sonata. Count me in. Piemontesi would be great in Harmonies poétiques et religieuses too. And he is now beginning to work with Beethoven's sonatas...

- Takács Quartet, the complete Haydn op. 64. Or Mozart's quintets with Lawrence Power or other violist.

- Apartment House, Feldman's For Philip Guston.

- Pierre-Laurent Aimard, just about every Játékok - after Kurtág's death, since he is still writing them.

- Matthias Goerne, Schoeck's Notturno. Maybe with the Belcea Quartet.

- Marc-André Hamelin, Schoenberg's complete piano music.

- JACK Quartet, Carter's five quartets.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Symphonic Addict on February 02, 2021, 11:16:00 AM
Quote from: DavidW on February 02, 2021, 10:14:42 AM
I would like to see another recording of Robert Simpson's symphonies NOT on Hyperion Records so that it would be available to the masses (i.e. to stream).  They don't stream and they don't keep their recordings in print.  It is pay for digital download or forget the music exists.

Yes, an alternative complete recording of his symphonies is more than necessary.

I would also like to see another cycle of Holmboe's symphonies. And complete recordings that bring together all Hilding Rosenberg's symphonies.

Other stuff that has not been officially recorded:

-Ernest Pingoud's symphonies and concertos
-Vitezslav Novák's symphonies
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: MusicTurner on February 02, 2021, 11:17:10 AM
Non-recorded repertoire:
- the string quartet cycle by Yuri Levitin
- Sorabji early (impressionist?) orchestral and his concertos
- Felix Glonti, symphonies and concertos
- Sergei Slonimsky, complete symphonies
- Karel Boleslav Jirak, symphonies etc.
- Obukhov, Book of Life, as complete as possible
- N.V. Bentzon, selected symphonies

Supplementary recordings:
- a more 'romantically coloured' Holmboe symphony cycle
- Pijper, symphonies 1-3 (they can be on a single disc ...)
- Monteverdi L'Orfeo, Currentzis
- Mahler, Das Lied, Currentzis (planned performance in March 2021, so options seem good)

3-year recording stop  ;D :
- Bach, concertos
- Mozart, symphonies and concertos
- Beethoven symphonies, concertos, quartets and sonatas
- Chopin piano works
- Mendelssohn instrumental works
- Shostakovich symphonies


Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Brian on February 02, 2021, 11:54:00 AM
Quote from: Symphonic Addict on February 02, 2021, 11:16:00 AM
-Vitezslav Novák's symphonies
Naxos just began a complete Novak orchestral series so you may not have long to wait. Well, aside from any pandemic-caused delays...
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: amw on February 02, 2021, 12:27:37 PM
I don't remember what I posted in this thread last time but here is a brief excerpt from my wishlist:


Horatiu Radulescu - the remainder of the string quartet cycle - JACK Quartet
Ludwig van Beethoven - Waldstein Sonata - Martha Argerich
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - the string quintets - Takács Quartet +1
James Dillon - complete string quartets - Arditti Quartet
Theodor Kirchner - complete piano music - any pianist, but Dominique Merlet seems like the best fit out of people who have his music in their repertoire
Stephen Heller - complete piano sonatas and larger piano works - any pianist, but Daniel Blumenthal seems like the best fit out of people who have his music in their repertoire
Horatiu Radulescu - complete orchestral music - any suitable French or German orchestra
Hermann Meier - complete orchestral music - any suitable Swiss orchestra
Ludwig van Beethoven - Hammerklavier Sonata - Marc-André Hamelin or Joseph Moog
Ludwig van Beethoven - complete string quartets - Chiaroscuro Quartet
Bernard van Dieren - complete string quartets - Utrecht Quartet
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - complete piano concertos, or at least 9 through 27 - Yeol Eum Son
any unreleased RAI Maria Tipo recordings
Karol Szymanowski - complete piano works - Krystian Zimerman
Sergei Prokofiev - piano sonatas 6, 7, 9, etc - Yuja Wang
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Mirror Image on February 02, 2021, 12:32:47 PM
Quote from: amw on February 02, 2021, 12:27:37 PM
I don't remember what I posted in this thread last time but here is a brief excerpt from my wishlist:


Karol Szymanowski - complete piano works - Krystian Zimerman

LOL...don't hold your breath! :P I understand this is a wishlist, but this beyond fantasy. Zimerman is so widely eccentric in what he records. I was actually surprised to see that Bacewicz disc appear many years back.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Brian on February 02, 2021, 12:53:56 PM
Quote from: amw on February 02, 2021, 12:27:37 PM
Ludwig van Beethoven - complete string quartets - Chiaroscuro Quartet
oooooh good call
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Todd on February 02, 2021, 03:22:53 PM
Quote from: amw on February 02, 2021, 12:27:37 PMKarol Szymanowski - complete piano works - Krystian Zimerman

A proper fantasy recording.


Quote from: amw on February 02, 2021, 12:27:37 PMSergei Prokofiev - piano sonatas 6, 7, 9, etc - Yuja Wang

This could happen.  Add this to my wishlist.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Holden on February 02, 2021, 04:37:24 PM
Marc-Andre Hamelin - the complete Chopin Etudes to go along with his transcriptions of those works he made a few years ago.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: amw on February 02, 2021, 07:46:44 PM
Quote from: Mirror Image on February 02, 2021, 12:32:47 PM
LOL...don't hold your breath! :P I understand this is a wishlist, but this beyond fantasy. Zimerman is so widely eccentric in what he records. I was actually surprised to see that Bacewicz disc appear many years back.
This is obviously a mix of things that are either likely to happen (e.g. the Ardittis have already played the complete Dillon quartets multiple times, and recorded two of them), could potentially happen in the future (e.g. it's not a complete stretch for the RAI to eventually send Audite its Maria Tipo tapes, since it's done that for a few other artists), or have a vanishingly small chance of ever happening (e.g. MA's only played the Waldstein once in her lifetime and the only thing her superfans could track down was a partial tape recorded by a member of the audience). I will probably go my entire life without ever hearing Zimerman play the Second and Third Szymanowski Sonatas, or anyone play the Radulescu piece for nine spectrally tuned orchestras. But, cast your bread upon the waters, etc.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Mirror Image on February 02, 2021, 08:47:39 PM
Quote from: amw on February 02, 2021, 07:46:44 PM
This is obviously a mix of things that are either likely to happen (e.g. the Ardittis have already played the complete Dillon quartets multiple times, and recorded two of them), could potentially happen in the future (e.g. it's not a complete stretch for the RAI to eventually send Audite its Maria Tipo tapes, since it's done that for a few other artists), or have a vanishingly small chance of ever happening (e.g. MA's only played the Waldstein once in her lifetime and the only thing her superfans could track down was a partial tape recorded by a member of the audience). I will probably go my entire life without ever hearing Zimerman play the Second and Third Szymanowski Sonatas, or anyone play the Radulescu piece for nine spectrally tuned orchestras. But, cast your bread upon the waters, etc.

Okay, well I'm happy with the recordings I own in my collection. :)
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Symphonic Addict on February 05, 2021, 12:32:17 PM
I just forgot to mention recordings of Koechlin's symphonies. CPO or Timpani could do a fantastic job here.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Mirror Image on February 07, 2021, 08:07:46 PM
Gustavo Dudamel actually recording more Latin American music. This is this strength as a conductor IMHO and so far, it's been one giant missed opportunity for him to promote classical music from this part of the world.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: DavidW on February 08, 2021, 05:31:28 AM
Quote from: Mirror Image on February 07, 2021, 08:07:46 PM
Gustavo Dudamel actually recording more Latin American music. This is this strength as a conductor IMHO and so far, it's been one giant missed opportunity for him to promote classical music from this part of the world.

? Dudamel has devoted most of his career to conducting romantic era warhorses.  Why would performing Latin American music be a strength of his if he spends most of his time on Beethoven and Mahler?
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: MusicTurner on February 08, 2021, 06:01:27 AM
Quote from: DavidW on February 08, 2021, 05:31:28 AM
? Dudamel has devoted most of his career to conducting romantic era warhorses.  Why would performing Latin American music be a strength of his if he spends most of his time on Beethoven and Mahler?

Well, he also recorded all of Ives' symphonies and a Nielsen, both DG; so he does try some things a bit off the beaten track.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Mirror Image on February 08, 2021, 06:41:35 AM
Quote from: DavidW on February 08, 2021, 05:31:28 AM
? Dudamel has devoted most of his career to conducting romantic era warhorses.  Why would performing Latin American music be a strength of his if he spends most of his time on Beethoven and Mahler?

For one thing, he's Venezuelan and he did put out that album Fiesta (or some such title) on Deutsche Grammophon many years ago and, honestly, this is the best thing he's ever done, IMHO. I've heard some of his Mahler (amongst others) and didn't find him compelling or interesting at all.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Brian on February 08, 2021, 06:59:41 AM
Yep, I love Fiesta and saw him conduct a live program with SBYOV of Tchaikovsky 4 and "Santa Cruz de Pacairigua". I think there's a combo of factors here - the Venezuelan music resonated more with the whole orchestra (not just the conductor) since it comes from a tradition they knew growing up rather than one they had to learn. Also, it's less familiar - we don't know what, say, Bernstein or Munch or Martinon would have sounded like conducting this music, so we accept the Dude as authoritative.

The Dude's approach to core rep seems, like Nezet-Seguin's, to be better suited for seeing live than hearing on disc: lots of integrity and solidity so that you can nod and say, yes, that's right, but not a lot of originality.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Todd on February 08, 2021, 07:26:17 AM
The Dude's recording career is focused on core rep.  That sells better.  His performance career is more adventurous, including a fair number of world premiere performances, and before Covid hit, novel mixed media performances.  He's doing a reasonable job in following the path tread by MTT and Salonen.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: DavidW on February 08, 2021, 07:37:29 AM
Interesting, didn't know that other side to Dudamel.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Brian on February 11, 2021, 11:36:45 AM
Quote from: DavidW on February 02, 2021, 10:14:42 AM
I would like to see another recording of Robert Simpson's symphonies NOT on Hyperion Records so that it would be available to the masses (i.e. to stream).  They don't stream and they don't keep their recordings in print.  It is pay for digital download or forget the music exists.
Another dream coming true, this April:

SYMPHONIES NOS. 5 & 6
Composer(s):   SIMPSON, ROBERT
Artist(s):   LONDON SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA DAVIS LONDON PHILHARMONIC ORCHESTRA GROVES
Label:   LYRITA (LRE)
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: DavidW on February 11, 2021, 11:40:19 AM
Quote from: Brian on February 11, 2021, 11:36:45 AM
Another dream coming true, this April:

SYMPHONIES NOS. 5 & 6
Composer(s):   SIMPSON, ROBERT
Artist(s):   LONDON SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA DAVIS LONDON PHILHARMONIC ORCHESTRA GROVES
Label:   LYRITA (LRE)

Yes!!!
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Hobby on February 23, 2021, 07:44:36 AM
I'd love to see Steven Osborne complete a Beethoven Sonata cycle, record Liszt sonata and the Annees de Pelerinage, and the Ligeti preludes. But almost anything else by him (eg further Prokofiev SonatasJ would be great.
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: Brahmsian on February 23, 2021, 10:13:06 AM
Quote from: Hobby on February 23, 2021, 07:44:36 AM
I'd love to see Steven Osborne complete a Beethoven Sonata cycle, record Liszt sonata and the Annees de Pelerinage, and the Ligeti preludes. But almost anything else by him (eg further Prokofiev SonatasJ would be great.

Welcome to GMG!  :)
Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: pjme on February 25, 2021, 11:31:21 PM
Quote from: Symphonic Addict on February 05, 2021, 12:32:17 PM
I just forgot to mention recordings of Koechlin's symphonies. CPO or Timpani could do a fantastic job here.

Yes + the Symphonie d'Hymnes:  1. Hymne au soleil op.127, 2. Hymne au jour - op.110  -3.  Hymne à la nuit op.  48a -
4. Hymne à la jeunesse - op.148   -  5. Hymne à la vie - op.  69a.

Title: Re: Recordings You Want To See in the Future
Post by: vandermolen on February 27, 2021, 02:54:43 AM
Janis Ivanovs Symphony 11 (on CD)