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Poll
Question: What's Your Favourite Opus?
Option 1: 9
Option 2: 17
Option 3: 20
Option 4: 33
Option 5: 42
Option 6: 50
Option 7: 54/5
Option 8: 64
Option 9: 71/4
Option 10: 76
Option 11: 77
Option 12: 1
Option 13: 2
Title: Poll: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: chasmaniac on April 04, 2012, 02:16:18 AM
Just curious. Mine is 64.
Title: Re: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: mszczuj on April 04, 2012, 03:59:41 AM
77.
Title: Re: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: Karl Henning on April 04, 2012, 04:01:18 AM
I think I must go with Op.50. Davey should be pleased : )
Title: Re: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: Gurn Blanston on April 04, 2012, 04:12:59 AM
Mine has always been Op 50. :)

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Title: Re: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: DavidW on April 04, 2012, 04:53:57 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on April 04, 2012, 04:01:18 AM
I think I must go with Op.50. Davey should be pleased : )

Excellent.

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Title: Re: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: Sergeant Rock on April 04, 2012, 05:00:12 AM
Checking out my Top Ten list, it seems Op.33 has to be my choice.

op.9/4   D minor
op.20/2 C major
op.33/1 B minor
op.33/2 E flat "Joke"
op:33/3 C major "Bird"
op.50/4 F sharp minor
op.64/3 B flat major
op.74/3 G minor "Rider"
op.76/2 D minor "Fifths"
op.77/1 G major


Sarge
Title: Re: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: chasmaniac on April 04, 2012, 05:55:29 AM
6 votes in and no 76s. Bit of a surprise that.
Title: Re: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: Madiel on April 04, 2012, 06:00:32 AM
Quote from: chasmaniac on April 04, 2012, 05:55:29 AM
6 votes in and no 76s. Bit of a surprise that.

I can 'fix' that for you, but it didn't seem appropriate because I only know 2 sets (76 and 71/4).  And even then it's not a very fair fight when I know 76 intimately and 71/4 considerably less well.
Title: Re: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: Gurn Blanston on April 04, 2012, 06:09:34 AM
Quote from: chasmaniac on April 04, 2012, 05:55:29 AM
6 votes in and no 76s. Bit of a surprise that.

If it had been 'vote for your top 2 faves'.... :)

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Title: Re: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: chasmaniac on April 04, 2012, 06:14:34 AM
Quote from: orfeo on April 04, 2012, 06:00:32 AM
I can 'fix' that for you, but it didn't seem appropriate because I only know 2 sets (76 and 71/4).  And even then it's not a very fair fight when I know 76 intimately and 71/4 considerably less well.

I reckon as long as you know more than one, it's fair to say what your fave is.
Title: Re: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: chasmaniac on April 04, 2012, 06:16:29 AM
Quote from: Gurnatron5500 on April 04, 2012, 06:09:34 AM
If it had been 'vote for your top 2 faves'.... :)

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Ha! More than 1 is hopeless! Mine would start at one end and run clear to the other!  :)
Title: Re: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: Madiel on April 04, 2012, 06:17:13 AM
Quote from: chasmaniac on April 04, 2012, 06:14:34 AM
I reckon as long as you know more than one, it's fair to say what your fave is.

76 it is then.
Title: Re: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: Gurn Blanston on April 04, 2012, 06:37:20 AM
Quote from: chasmaniac on April 04, 2012, 06:16:29 AM
Ha! More than 1 is hopeless! Mine would start at one end and run clear to the other!  :)

Yes, in truth it is whatever one I'm listening to at the moment...  I'm even sort of disappointed not to see Op 1 & 2 in there; they were some of the best music of their time, without which Haydn would have never got his start. :)

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Title: Re: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: chasmaniac on April 04, 2012, 06:39:55 AM
Quote from: Gurnatron5500 on April 04, 2012, 06:37:20 AM
I'm even sort of disappointed not to see Op 1 & 2 in there; they were some of the best music of their time, without which Haydn would have never got his start. :)

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Fixed.
Title: Re: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: Leon on April 04, 2012, 06:40:14 AM
Since I enjoy all of these works fairly uniformly, this was a somewhat meaningless choice. 

Each work has it own strengths and Haydn was such a masterful composer, especially in the string quartet idiom, that it is hard for me to claim any strong preference.

That said, Op. 76 edges out the others as my favorite primarily because of my special affection for #2.

:)
Title: Re: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: kishnevi on April 04, 2012, 06:45:50 AM
Quote from: chasmaniac on April 04, 2012, 06:16:29 AM
Ha! More than 1 is hopeless! Mine would start at one end and run clear to the other!  :)

I'd have to vote for all of them except 1, 2 and 42, and that's only because I've never heard those particular sets  complete through.
Title: Re: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: Gurn Blanston on April 04, 2012, 06:49:40 AM
Quote from: Arnold on April 04, 2012, 06:40:14 AM
Since I enjoy all of these works fairly uniformly, this was a somewhat meaningless choice. 

Each work has it own strengths and Haydn was such a masterful composer, especially in the string quartet idiom, that it is hard for me to claim any strong preference.

That said, Op. 76 edges out the others as my favorite primarily because of my special affection for #2.

:)

That d minor is probably my favorite single quartet. :)

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Title: Re: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: Gurn Blanston on April 04, 2012, 06:50:23 AM
Quote from: chasmaniac on April 04, 2012, 06:39:55 AM
Fixed.


Thanks. I hope someone now can also show them some love. :)

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Title: Re: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: Mirror Image on April 04, 2012, 08:02:54 AM
 :-\ Shouldn't this be in the polling section of the forum?
Title: Re: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: Gurn Blanston on April 04, 2012, 08:05:43 AM
Quote from: Mirror Image on April 04, 2012, 08:02:54 AM
:-\ Shouldn't this be in the polling section of the forum?

Yup. Thought it was. Where would I be? :)

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Title: Re: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: Sergeant Rock on April 04, 2012, 08:07:18 AM
Quote from: Mirror Image on April 04, 2012, 08:02:54 AM
:-\ Shouldn't this be in the polling section of the forum?

Haydn should never be shunted off to that this obscure, hidden corner of the forum   :(
Sarge
Title: Re: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: kishnevi on April 04, 2012, 08:21:45 AM
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on April 04, 2012, 08:07:18 AM
Haydn should never be shunted off to that this obscure, hidden corner of the forum   :(
Sarge

Almost by definition no spot where Haydn is to be found can be obscure or hidden.  (Although I grant that there are some corners of Haydn that are more obscure and hidden than others.)
Title: Re: Poll: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: Brahmsian on April 04, 2012, 08:35:37 AM
I voted for Opus 20!  8)
Title: Re: Poll: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: classicalgeek on April 04, 2012, 08:37:30 AM
Opus 64, with op. 64 no. 6 in E-flat being my favorite of that set.

My favorite of all?  I'd have to think about that...
Title: Re: Poll: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: Sergeant Rock on April 04, 2012, 08:37:57 AM
Quote from: ChamberNut on April 04, 2012, 08:35:37 AM
I voted for Opus 20!  8)

Good man. It deserves a vote. I was tempted myself.

Sarge
Title: Re: Poll: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: Brahmsian on April 04, 2012, 08:39:31 AM
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on April 04, 2012, 08:37:57 AM
Good man. It deserves a vote. I was tempted myself.

Sarge

I voted for it because I love the Fuga Soggetti's (or Soggy Fugues, as I like to nickname them)  ;D
Title: Re: Poll: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: chasmaniac on April 04, 2012, 08:40:23 AM
Quote from: ChamberNut on April 04, 2012, 08:35:37 AM
I voted for Opus 20!  8)

A nod for 20. Good to see. And now I have company at table #64! Waiter! An allegro for my friend here!
Title: Re: Poll: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: Sergeant Rock on April 04, 2012, 08:42:05 AM
Quote from: ChamberNut on April 04, 2012, 08:39:31 AM....or Soggy Fugues, as I like to nickname them)  ;D

;D :D ;D

I think I'll listen to one now  8)


Sarge
Title: Re: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: Mirror Image on April 04, 2012, 08:51:58 AM
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on April 04, 2012, 08:07:18 AM
Haydn should never be shunted off to that this obscure, hidden corner of the forum   :(
Sarge

I know, but I don't make the rules. :D
Title: Re: Poll: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: TheGSMoeller on April 04, 2012, 09:12:21 AM
Op. 20 for this Monkey...

...mainly for the Fugue finales of 2, 5 & 6.
Title: Re: Poll: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: Mookalafalas on August 09, 2014, 01:48:02 AM
I guess the polling station was not the place for this thread to thrive...
  The general topic is "string quartets".  Seems like it should be a good place for general haydn SQ talk, but it appears I need to look elsewhere.
Title: Re: Poll: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: Moonfish on August 09, 2014, 02:24:45 AM
Quote from: Baklavaboy on August 09, 2014, 01:48:02 AM
I guess the polling station was not the place for this thread to thrive...
  The general topic is "string quartets".  Seems like it should be a good place for general haydn SQ talk, but it appears I need to look elsewhere.

I bet it will wake up now though thanks to you Al.....    ;)

Are you listening to the Buchberger SQ?
Title: Re: Poll: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: Mookalafalas on August 09, 2014, 03:11:40 AM
Quote from: Moonfish on August 09, 2014, 02:24:45 AM
I bet it will wake up now though thanks to you Al.....    ;)

Are you listening to the Buchberger SQ?

Yes! But that is not really why I sought out this thread.  I have it in good MP3, and like it's rough&ready energy and zeal--but am prejudiced in favor of playing actual CDs (although I do NOT believe that they are audibly better sounding).  I've ordered the big blue box, but it hasn't arrived yet.
    I've been playing the Konzerthaus Quartet versions from the Westminster 1 box, which, if I am not mistaken, you also own.  I was playing the 76, and love it. However, I don't know if that is because it is a great version, or if it is just one of the most approachable opera (is that the correct term here?).  I haven't played a lot of SQ music, and so am floundering a bit. I've been playing the "last 3 quartets" from the big Vivarte box (which you also have, no?) and love it, as well.  However, when I wander out into the sea of Haydn's SQs, I soon lose my bearings and get lost.  There are so many of them, and I don't really have the tools or background to understand them very well.   I can't distinguish between them, or really follow the larger form of the pieces.   :-[ 
  It's dinner time. I just had a big vodka, and my wife just called. She's picking me up to go out to eat. Anyway, I'd like to hear what you think about these. bye for now. 
Title: Re: Poll: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: Jo498 on August 09, 2014, 05:14:18 AM
I voted 76, but I would hate to be restricted to one opus. My favorite quartet is op.76/5 (than probably 76/4).
Other favorites are 20, 64, but everything from op.20 through 76 should be mandatory for every friend of the genre and op.9 and 17 are very good and have some amazing pieces (the best known is probably d minor from op.9).
Even op. 1+2 are not only entertaining (although never less than that), e.g. the amazing "violin duet" in, I think op.1/3 and there is a nice variation movement in one of op.2.
Title: Re: Poll: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: Brahmsian on August 09, 2014, 07:10:38 AM
Quote from: TheGSMoeller on April 04, 2012, 09:12:21 AM
Op. 20 for this Monkey...

...mainly for the Fugue finales of 2, 5 & 6.

Alright, plus one Monkey Amphibian!   8)  Another vote for the 'soggy fugues'!  ;D

NB:  Post # 3K alert.
Title: Re: Poll: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: Karl Henning on August 09, 2014, 07:25:23 AM
Better familiarity with the quartets is one of my ongoing works-in-progress . . . .
Title: Re: Poll: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: yeongil on August 09, 2014, 08:20:24 AM
Hmm.. I like Opp. 33 and 76 equally, but I can only choose one in this poll, so I chose Op. 33.  :P
Title: Re: Poll: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: Gurn Blanston on August 09, 2014, 08:52:00 AM
My opinion hasn't changed: Opus 50 on all counts. Followed by 76...   $:)

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Title: Re: Poll: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: Moonfish on August 09, 2014, 12:33:33 PM
Quote from: Baklavaboy on August 09, 2014, 03:11:40 AM
Yes! But that is not really why I sought out this thread.  I have it in good MP3, and like it's rough&ready energy and zeal--but am prejudiced in favor of playing actual CDs (although I do NOT believe that they are audibly better sounding).  I've ordered the big blue box, but it hasn't arrived yet.
    I've been playing the Konzerthaus Quartet versions from the Westminster 1 box, which, if I am not mistaken, you also own.  I was playing the 76, and love it. However, I don't know if that is because it is a great version, or if it is just one of the most approachable opera (is that the correct term here?).  I haven't played a lot of SQ music, and so am floundering a bit. I've been playing the "last 3 quartets" from the big Vivarte box (which you also have, no?) and love it, as well.  However, when I wander out into the sea of Haydn's SQs, I soon lose my bearings and get lost.  There are so many of them, and I don't really have the tools or background to understand them very well.   I can't distinguish between them, or really follow the larger form of the pieces.   :-[ 
  It's dinner time. I just had a big vodka, and my wife just called. She's picking me up to go out to eat. Anyway, I'd like to hear what you think about these. bye for now.

Perhaps the vodka will add an intriguing soundscape?  I think you just need to sail into the ocean of Haydn Quartets. The other posts here debate the "best" SQs, which is an everlasting discussion. Personally I think you can wrap yourself up in Op 76, Op 50, Op 33 and Op 20 for a while. Listen to them over and over and just suspend yourself in the music. It is a complex dance in my eyes and they improve over time like good wines.   :)    Have fun!
Title: Re: Poll: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: Mookalafalas on August 09, 2014, 08:25:33 PM
Quote from: Moonfish on August 09, 2014, 12:33:33 PM
Perhaps the vodka will add an intriguing soundscape?  I think you just need to sail into the ocean of Haydn Quartets. The other posts here debate the "best" SQs, which is an everlasting discussion. Personally I think you can wrap yourself up in Op 76, Op 50, Op 33 and Op 20 for a while. Listen to them over and over and just suspend yourself in the music. It is a complex dance in my eyes and they improve over time like good wines.   :)    Have fun!

  Good advice, Moonfish. I'll focus on those four for a while and see if they don't start to sink in. 
Title: Re: Poll: Haydn String Quartets
Post by: Jaakko Keskinen on September 17, 2014, 03:27:48 AM
Toss between 20 and 76 but I picked 76.