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Title: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Thatfabulousalien on November 17, 2016, 09:22:45 PM
I couldn't find an existing thread on this, which I find suspicious but I digress.
What is your top ten Stravinsky works?
:)
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: ritter on November 17, 2016, 11:36:10 PM
My two cents worth. In chronological order:

- Petrushka (complete ballet)
- Symphonies d'instruments à vent
- Pulcinella (complete ballet)
- Les Noces
- Concerto in E-flat, "Dumbarton Oaks"
- Scherzo à la russe
- Canticum Sacrum
- Agon
- Variations for orchestra, Aldous Huxley in memoriam
- Requiem Canticles
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Karl Henning on November 18, 2016, 02:02:14 AM
How can you pick only ten?  0:)
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Sergeant Rock on November 18, 2016, 03:08:04 AM
Le sacre du printemps
Agon
Le baiser de la fée
Jeu de cartes
Symphony in Three Movements
Symphony in C
Symphonies of Wind Instruments
Violin Concerto
Ebony Concerto
Capriccio for Piano and Orchestra
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Karl Henning on November 18, 2016, 04:07:52 AM
Nice to see the love for the Capriccio, which is not "a usual suspect"!   8)
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Drasko on November 18, 2016, 04:29:40 AM
Le sacre du printemps
Les Noces
Pulcinella
Oedipus Rex
Symphony of Psalms
Persephone
Symphonies of Wind Instruments
Petrushka
Apollo
Capriccio for Piano and Orchestra
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Karl Henning on November 18, 2016, 04:46:10 AM
I love threads where there is no bad answer  0:)
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: James on November 18, 2016, 05:14:53 AM
One of my all-time favorite musicians, I admire all of his stuff, in the top 3 of the 20th century ..

for this thread a select list of faves off the top of my head ..

The Soldier's Tale
The Rite of Spring
Agon
Violin Concerto
Symphony of Psalms
Mass
Symphonies of Wind Instruments
Octet
Three Movements from Petrushka
Dumbarton Oaks
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: mc ukrneal on November 18, 2016, 05:30:13 AM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 18, 2016, 02:02:14 AM
How can you pick only ten?  0:)
You mean there are 10!?! :)

I can think of two:
Rake's Progress
Firebird
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Karl Henning on November 18, 2016, 05:32:40 AM
Quote from: mc ukrneal on November 18, 2016, 05:30:13 AM
You mean there are 10!?! :)

Ah, the Loyal Opposition!  8)
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Mirror Image on November 18, 2016, 05:47:04 AM
Here goes nothing:

Le sacre du printemps (of course -- 8) )
Petrouchka
The Fairy's Kiss
Jeu de cartes
Agon
Violin Concerto
Capriccio for Piano and Orchestra
(another vote for this work as it's highly underrated)
Symphonies for Wind Instruments
Dumbarton Oaks
Mass


A fine list, but some changes need to be made:

Le sacre du printemps
Petrouchka
Apollon musagète
Symphony of Psalms
Mass
Violin Concerto
Symphonies of Wind Instruments
Duo concertant
Agon
Concerto in E-flat, "Dumbarton Oaks"
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Jo498 on November 18, 2016, 07:32:42 AM
Symphony in 3 movements
Petrouchka
Le Sacre du printemps
L'histoire du soldat
Symphony in C
Ebony Concerto
Symphony of Psalms
Dumbarton Oaks
Pulcinella

But I have only superficial or no knowledge of the later music and some other important pieces like Rake's progress. And not enough memories of some pieces I think I liked, e.g. the octet and the violin concerto, so I went with safe choices I am familiar with.
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Turner on November 18, 2016, 08:20:57 AM
Symphony in 3 Movements
Psalm Symphony

Capriccio for Piano & Orchestra
Movements for Piano & Orchestra

Rite of Spring
Firebird
Petrouchka
Agon
Orpheus, or Ebony Concerto

Orchestral Variations

Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Dax on November 18, 2016, 08:55:31 AM
A favourite amongst colleagues in England is Zvesdoliki (King of the stars). Not too many votes for it as yet . . .
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Sergeant Rock on November 18, 2016, 01:54:22 PM
Quote from: Thatfabulousalien on November 18, 2016, 01:31:09 PM
Tango  8)

Oh no, no...the Tango is great fun, and if fun is what one wants, then in the top 10 it goes  8)

Orchestral and piano versions here:

https://www.youtube.com/v/RYlqFIKH74M


Sarge
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: North Star on November 18, 2016, 03:36:20 PM
Something like this:

Rite
Symphonies of wind instruments
Apollo
Symphony of Psalms
Duo concertant
Dumbarton Oaks
Elegy for solo viola
Orpheus
Canticum Sacrum
Agon
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Dee Sharp on November 18, 2016, 04:05:24 PM
(in alphabetical order)
Fairy's Kiss
Firebird
Jeu De Cartes
Petrouchka
Pulcinella
Rite of Spring
Song of the Nightingale
Symphony of Psalms
Symphony in C
Violin Concerto
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Ken B on November 18, 2016, 08:11:13 PM
Dumbarton Oaks
Symphony in C
Jeu de Cartes
Ebony Concerto
Apollo
Orpheus
Symphony in Three Movements
Canticum Sacrum
Song of the Nightingale
Les Noces

I might try to slip in a couple concerti, or Scenes de ballet, or The Fairy's Kiss too. Plus the Mass.

Yes, that one does not make the top 10. Not that it isn't a towering masterpiece! It's just that this is Stravinsky we're talking about!
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Ken B on November 18, 2016, 08:16:48 PM
Nice to see some love for Canticum. I seem to be the only one here, apart from the Opposition, not to list the Rite. That might be fatigue after decades of listening.  :laugh:

Of course the list will differ on a different day, but my top 3 have been rock steady for 35 years.
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Mahlerian on November 18, 2016, 08:49:23 PM
In chronological order:

The Rite of Spring
Les Noces
Octet
Apollo
Symphony of Psalms
Violin Concerto
Duo Concertant
Concerto for Two Pianos
The Rake's Progress
Threni

Such consistent excellence, I could easily find plenty of substitutes.
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on November 21, 2016, 07:14:34 PM
Agon
Threni
Ebony Concerto
8 Instrumental Miniatures
Petrushka
Song of the Nightingale
Movements for piano and orchestra
Dumbarton Oaks
Symphony in 3 Movements
Symphony of Psalms
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Mirror Image on November 21, 2016, 07:33:06 PM
Quote from: Thatfabulousalien on November 21, 2016, 07:25:25 PM
I have come to the conclusion that Agon is in fact one of my favorite Stravinsky works, it's just so......woah!  8)

An awesome work that's for sure. It's in my 'Top 10'. 8)
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Karl Henning on November 23, 2016, 04:47:02 AM
Quote from: Thatfabulousalien on November 22, 2016, 09:56:01 PM
My revised list:

The Rite Of Spring (Le Sacre)
Symphony in Three Movements
Requiem Canticles
Agon
Symphonies of wind instruments
Variations for Huxley
Three Pieces For String Quartet
Oedipus Rex
The Soldiers Tale
Les Noces  8)

The Three Pieces are arguably something of an idiosyncratic choice, but of course:  why not?  8)
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Mirror Image on November 24, 2016, 07:38:45 AM
Quote from: Mirror Image on November 18, 2016, 05:47:04 AM
Here goes nothing:

Le sacre du printemps (of course -- 8) )
Petrouchka
The Fairy's Kiss
Jeu de cartes
Agon
Violin Concerto
Capriccio for Piano and Orchestra
(another vote for this work as it's highly underrated)
Symphony for Wind Instruments
Dumbarton Oaks
Mass


I'm still quite satisfied with this list, so I'll leave it alone (for a change). :)
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Karl Henning on November 26, 2016, 06:30:45 AM
Quote from: Thatfabulousalien on November 24, 2016, 04:34:47 PM
I agree, I have a bit of Sacre Fatigue too  :-[

Gotta pace yourselves!
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Heck148 on November 27, 2016, 06:27:25 AM
Quote from: Thatfabulousalien on November 17, 2016, 09:22:45 PM
What is your top ten Stravinsky works?

Le Sacre du Printemps
Firebird
Petrushka
Octet
L'Histiore du Soldat
Sym in 3 mvts
Sym in C
Danse Concertantes
Agon
Mass
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: ahinton on November 27, 2016, 09:38:51 AM
I've just struggled unsuccessfully to name only five top Schönberg works. I'd likewise struggle to get a list of top Stravinsky works up to ten. Sorry!
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Contemporaryclassical on December 07, 2016, 10:45:05 PM
Threni
Requiem Canticles
Movements for Piano and orchestra
Agon
Three Pieces For String Quartet
Symphonies of wind instruments
The Firebird
Concertino for 12 players
Octet for wind instruments
Capriccisio for Piano and orchestra
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Karl Henning on December 08, 2016, 05:36:12 AM
Quote from: ahinton on November 27, 2016, 09:38:51 AM
I've just struggled unsuccessfully to name only five top Schönberg works. I'd likewise struggle to get a list of top Stravinsky works up to ten. Sorry!

Get on it!  8)
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Karl Henning on December 08, 2016, 05:36:36 AM
Quote from: Webernian on December 07, 2016, 10:45:05 PM
Threni
Requiem Canticles
Movements for Piano and orchestra
Agon
Three Pieces For String Quartet
Symphonies of wind instruments
The Firebird
Concertino for 12 players
Octet for wind instruments
Capriccisio for Piano and orchestra

Nice to see the love for the Capriccio!
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Ghost Sonata on December 08, 2016, 06:40:22 AM
Quote from: Thatfabulousalien on November 17, 2016, 09:22:45 PM
I couldn't find an existing thread on this, which I find suspicious...


An international anti-Igor conspiracy?  No worries, he has laid them all to waste with an oeuvre that astounds for its variety, creativity, and overall scintillating brilliance.  A half-century from now he will be bigger than LvB, mark me.

Le Sacre
Der Feuervogel (sorry, I like the way it sounds in German)
Petrushka
VC
Symphony in C
Symphony of Psalms
Octet for Wind ('52 version)
Concerto for Two Pianos (Igor said it was 'perhaps' his favorite among his purely instrumental works, must be good :laugh:)
Le Rossignol
Dumbarton Oaks

Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Mahlerian on December 08, 2016, 08:45:03 AM
Quote from: Webernian on December 07, 2016, 10:45:05 PM
Threni

Welcome to the forum indeed!
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on December 08, 2016, 03:11:17 PM
Quote from: Thatfabulousalien on December 08, 2016, 03:05:10 PM
Turns out I have new favourites, after rekindling my love for Stravinsky during my sabbatical:

Song of the nightingale
Requiem Canticles
Agon
Oedipus Rex
Variations for Huxley
Symphony in Three Movements
Abraham and Isaac
Symphonies of wind instruments
Concerto for piano and winds
The Firebird/The Soldiers Tale
THIS is a MUCH better list 8)
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: amw on December 09, 2016, 03:05:01 AM
Requiem Canticles
Orpheus
Movements
Mass
Variations
Canticum Sacrum
Symphony of Psalms
Threni
Duo concertant

after that I had to go to iTunes to look through a list of compositions by Stravinsky I had recordings of to come up with a #10, which I think would be the Symphony in C, probably.

That also reminded me I don't actually own a recording of Canticum Sacrum though, which I will need to fix immediately.
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: North Star on December 09, 2016, 03:15:08 AM
Quote from: amw on December 09, 2016, 03:05:01 AM
That also reminded me I don't actually own a recording of Canticum Sacrum though, which I will need to fix immediately.
This.
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Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: amw on December 09, 2016, 03:39:23 AM
Yes, I'm actually trying to decide between that one and this one:

(http://static.qobuz.com/images/covers/62/34/0002894303462_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: ritter on December 09, 2016, 03:47:30 AM
Quote from: amw on December 09, 2016, 03:39:23 AM
Yes, I'm actually trying to decide between that one and this one:

(http://static.qobuz.com/images/covers/62/34/0002894303462_600.jpg)
I must admit I am not familiar with the one North Star has recommended (but I trust his taste   :) ), but the recording by Simon Preston is simply outstanding, and is by far my favourite of the work (and I know quite a few  ;)).

Regards,

Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: amw on December 09, 2016, 03:54:50 AM
The Hyperion recording, to my ears, seems sweeter and less sharp-edged, with the voices slightly less brought to the foreground. That said, the voices are also more in tune. The Preston recording is earthier and more Byzantine, somehow otherworldly in its severity. I am leaning towards it, but may need both. (These are all among my favourite Stravinsky works after all.)
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on December 09, 2016, 12:51:43 PM
I didn't find that recording on Hyperion much to my taste. But then again, I haven't found many recordings I particularly find definitive on Hyperion anyway.
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Mirror Image on February 25, 2017, 07:34:57 AM
Quote from: Mirror Image on November 18, 2016, 05:47:04 AM
Here goes nothing:

Le sacre du printemps (of course -- 8) )
Petrouchka
The Fairy's Kiss
Jeu de cartes
Agon
Violin Concerto
Capriccio for Piano and Orchestra
(another vote for this work as it's highly underrated)
Symphonies for Wind Instruments
Dumbarton Oaks
Mass

A fine list, but some changes need to be made:

Le sacre du printemps
Petrouchka
Apollon musagète
Symphony of Psalms
Mass
Violin Concerto
Symphonies of Wind Instruments
Duo concertant
Agon
Concerto in E-flat, "Dumbarton Oaks"
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Wanderer on February 26, 2017, 12:40:57 PM
L'oiseau de feu
Les noces
Le sacre du printemps
Trois mouvements de Pétrouchka
Violin Concerto in D
Oedipus rex
Agon
Apollon musagète
Le baiser de la fée
The Rake's Progress
Pétrouchka
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Monsieur Croche on March 06, 2017, 11:34:36 PM
Before I knew it, I was up to fourteen and adding more, all of which have already been listed, including the perhaps less appreciated Capriccio for piano and orchestra, which I do consider quite a gem and an 'important' work.

My oversized list included perhaps 'lesser' and smaller works for which I have an inordinate fondness (like (Renard), or works I still find completely 'solid' and compelling after decades of familiarity i.e. In Memoriam Dylan Thomas, and the Cantata.

I entirely prefer the complete ballets, disregard the suites for the commercial and slighter money makers they were meant to be, (I mean, Pulcinella without the singers? ... or Song of the Nightengale vs. the full opera? ... no brainers) and the revised versions of anything he later revised.

I am going to specifically name Symphony in C.  I think it a far better work than the Symphony in three movements, which I was a bit surprised to see listed by a number of people.

But, I'm with Karl on this topic.  Stravinsky composed, whether they are small, medium or large-scale works, nearly nought but 'masterworks.'  Choosing just ten is a very restraining exercise, indeed.
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Ghost Sonata on May 25, 2017, 03:22:53 PM
Good to see affection for his Mass in this thread, amw and John among possible others stood up to be counted for it and I now number myself among them.  Dunno why that work didn't click for me before, perhaps Lenny had do the job. 

Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Ken B on May 25, 2017, 04:26:12 PM
Quote from: Ken B on November 18, 2016, 08:11:13 PM
Dumbarton Oaks
Symphony in C
Jeu de Cartes
Ebony Concerto
Apollo
Orpheus
Symphony in Three Movements
Canticum Sacrum
Song of the Nightingale
Les Noces

I might try to slip in a couple concerti, or Scenes de ballet, or The Fairy's Kiss too. Plus the Mass.

Yes, that one does not make the top 10. Not that it isn't a towering masterpiece! It's just that this is Stravinsky we're talking about!

Quote from: Ghost Sonata on May 25, 2017, 03:22:53 PM
Good to see affection for his Mass in this thread, amw and John among possible others stood up to be counted for it and I now number myself among them.  Dunno why that work didn't click for me before, perhaps Lenny had do the job. 



Tsk, tsk. Gotta know whom to trust there Dragon!

:laugh:
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Ghost Sonata on May 26, 2017, 03:57:54 AM
Indeed!
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: bwv 1080 on May 26, 2017, 06:33:58 AM
In no particular order

Agon
Petrushka
Octet
Symphony in C
Symphony of Psalms
Requiem Canticles
Rite of Spring
Symphonies of Wind Instruments
Movements for Piano and Orchestra
Choral Variations Von Himmel Hoch

Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Karl Henning on May 26, 2017, 06:34:33 AM
Smokin' list.
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Crudblud on May 27, 2017, 03:20:43 AM
Let's give it a shot! This is just off the top of my head. I haven't listened to any Stravinsky other than Threni in the past few weeks, but these are the ones I recall listening to most often when in a Stravinskian mood.

Agon
Violin Concerto
L'histoire du soldat
Requiem Canticles
Symphony in Three Movements
Ebony Concerto
Petrushka
Preludium for Jazz Band
Threni
Dumbarton Oaks
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Karl Henning on July 25, 2017, 02:57:56 AM
Aye  8)
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: snyprrr on July 26, 2017, 06:50:51 AM
Quote from: α | ì Æ ñ on July 25, 2017, 02:23:49 AM
Just as Peter Sellars once said paraphrasing: "The extraordinary thing about Stravinsky is that every piece is his best work. You get so deep inside each piece and it's the best....then you listen to another piece and then that is the greatest piece"   :laugh:


It's true, I was just having a Petrushka moment, after having a huge (the) Flood moment last night.  :laugh:

Really? 'The Flood'?

'The Flood', 'A Sermon, A Narrative, and A Prayer', and 'Abraham and Isaac' all reside outside of my "safe space"... ohhhh, just thinking about them gives me shivers! ???


I can rank LEAST fav much easier. Narration always gets my goat. And 'Pribaoutki' and some of the other Songs are not my cup of tea. The '2 Sketches for A Sonata' and a lot of the other 30sec. pieces...

BUT I DO THINK EVERY COMPOSER SHOULD HAVE STUFF THAT YOU JUST CANT STAND, TO BALANCE THINGS OUT.



(btw- no real fav Stravinsky... riiight????)
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: kyjo on September 13, 2017, 09:17:55 PM
The Firebird
The Rite of Spring
Petroushka
Symphony in E flat
Symphony in C
Symphony of Psalms
Apollon musagete
Violin Concerto
Scherzo fantastique
Concerto in D for strings

...which reminds me, I've yet to listen to his newly discovered "Funeral Song" from 1908...
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: SymphonicAddict on November 25, 2017, 11:11:25 AM
Le Sacre du Printemps
Petrushka
L'Oiseau du Feu
Jeu de Cartes
Les Noces
Apollo
Symphony in three movements
Suite italienne from 'Pulcinella' for cello and piano
Symphony of Psalms
Divertimento from 'Le Baiser de la Fée' for violin and piano
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: kyjo on November 25, 2017, 03:15:11 PM
Quote from: SymphonicAddict on November 25, 2017, 11:11:25 AM
Le Sacre du Printemps
Petrushka
L'Oiseau du Feu
Jeu de Cartes
Les Noces
Apollo
Symphony in three movements
Suite italienne from 'Pulcinella' for cello and piano
Symphony of Psalms
Divertimento from 'Le Baiser de la Fée' for violin and piano

This could've been my list as well! Love the Suite italienne in its cello version - such a charming work.
Title: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Karl Henning on November 25, 2017, 03:51:41 PM
Top ten Stravinsky works? The ten I've listened to latest.

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Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: Crudblud on November 25, 2017, 05:16:00 PM
I think it would go a little something like this...

Agon (1957)
Requiem Canticles (1966)
L'histoire du soldat (1916)
Violin Concerto (1931)
Petrushka (1911)
Ebony Concerto (1945)
Symphony in Three Movements (1945)
Preludium for Jazz Band (1937)
Basel Concerto (1946)
Variations (1964)

Honourable mentions for Pulcinella, the Symphony of Psalms, the Octet and Septet, Ragtime, Tango etc. So many wonderful short pieces from Stravinsky; I chose my favourite in the Preludium, but it's a shame to have to leave out the rest.
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: André on November 25, 2017, 06:09:20 PM
Let's see if I can name ten...

- Symphony in 3 Movements
- Le sacre du printemps
- Pétrouchka
- Le roi des étoiles
- Pucinella Suite
- Jeu de cartes
- Violin concerto
- Les noces
- Capriccio for piano and orchestra
- The Rake's Progress

I made it ! Doesn't mean I like all these works though. I could have added Eddy Puss Rex, but I don't really like it. I genuinely like the first 5. I appreciate the others.
Title: Re: Top ten Stravinsky works?
Post by: You did it on December 01, 2017, 12:39:11 AM
The Flood
Requiem Canticles
The Rite Of Spring (made it's way back)
Agon
Les Noces
Ebony Concerto
Petrushka (it's just so fun and schizophrenic)
Le Roi Des Etoiles
Mass
Movements For Piano And Orchestra


(it was hard to miss out Threni but I had to make my decision, considering I already had Canticles and Mass....)